#ableism ment

[ndcultureis]

NPD neurodivergent culture is being so tired… just so tired of everyone seeing me as a monster because they’re the ones that as misinformed.

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#neurodivergent culture #actually neurodivergent #npd culture is #actually npd #mod emri #ableism ment

[altargarden]

legitimately, it's really nice to see posts around here that help those with psychosis. whether it's a little reminder or just an opinion or anything, those things matter. i've seen witchblr treat psychosis and delusions literally as a "red flag" or "dangerous" or a means to run the other way, and it's just nice to see us not be demonised for once. people with psychosis always deserve support, whether our behaviour is able to be understood or not.

#bun talks #ableism ment #witchblr #psychosis

[carnographics]

people hate self diagnosis and if you dare utter the label of a disorder without a handwritten letter with a wax stamp being bestowed upon you from the doctor's office you should die via firing squad. and then they turn around and diagnosis every person they don't like with npd left right and center just so they get to cry about "narcissistic abuse" to anyone who will listen it makes me fucking sick actually like no one's allowed to unprofessionally diagnosis unless you're diagnosing your abuser with an already stigmatized personality disorder it just makes me sick about how people with npd are treated in general like fuck you actually

#effie.txt #ableism ment #npd

[just-antithings]

Religious trauma can also include ableism as well. Religious fundies don't have a great track record of treating disabled people very well(especially autistic people). I grew up in a church where my autism and mental illnesses were dubbed as demonic possession. I was exorcised as a result and treated like a subhuman. Not fun.

Yeah uhh my experience with my former church was about the same (i only wasnt subjected to the exorcism they wanted to give me because my mom told them no, i found out years later and its one of the few good parenting choices she made imo) and I'm sure we aren't the only ones who had this come up

#mod seraphim #ableism ment #exorcism ment #religious extremism tw

[thewikiplayer]

OC SPOTLIGHT

APOLLO!! (they/them pronouns)

apollo is a grumpy solar flower with a snippy attitude and prickly words to match. they lash out at others defensively first and reason second. as a result, they're very good at standing their ground, but not.. very good at communicating with people they even slightly dislike.

they're silly!! their self-preserving demeanor stems from being poked fun at for being a stationary robot, but they're slowly learning to be a bit more open now that they're surrounded by nicer people.

their dream is to explore the world. and their best friend is literally a robot that can float, who is willing to help them explore everywhere and achieve their dream!! this sharp flower LOVES seeing sights

their toyhouse can be found here!

#8 BIT BROADCAST #oc: apollo #turnabout tech #I LOVE THIS SILLY FLOWER #they're so mean and prickly i just wanna swing them around #OC SPOTLIGHT #ableism mention #ableism ment #oc #original character

[neopronouns]

Wait you're telling me I can be posic without having high empathy??? I literally got kicked out of so many posic+ groups because I have low/no empathy. So many of them told me I was faking it. What the hell.

that's complete bullshit :/ there are multiple common causes of posic+ identities, not Just hyperempathy. like, mine partially originates from my high empathy, but i'm not gonna go around acting like my experience is the only valid one

#discourse #ableism ment #just in case

[dragonomatopoeia]

if they're going to make the framing device of this stupid fucking musical an ableist ohhhhh zelda is remembering key memories while being institutionalized (THIS SUCKS THIS MUSICAL SUCKS) thing then why the fuck do we keep following f scott around. why does he get so many solos. why are we seeing his perspective uncolored and unclouded by zelda's perceptions. this doesn't make sense. the framing and the themes are all inconsistent at best and nonexistent at worst

okay sorry distracted by another thing this horrid thing keeps doing which is it keeps quoting bits from their writings that are completely inconsistent with the way the rest of the scene is written. so it's supposed to be a haha you get it??? this is a quote from the thing they wrote!!!! and i'm like Yeah I Get It!!! I Can't Miss It!!! Because it's so BADLY incorporated!!!! The tone and dialogue don't match up!! Wikipedia page ass musical.

anyway this is so directionless why would these be important or memorable scenes within this framing device. horrible execution. bad concept. this sucks.

#institutionalization ment #ableism ment

[bbeeohazardd]

really just had to see someone in the main marble hornets tag say that Masky is "basically a child" and "feral" 🙃

#i hate you allistic marble hornets fans #i hate you singlet marble hornets fans #singlets stop talking about Masky #i am taking Tim and Masky away from y'all until y'all know how to behave #bee shouts #ableism ment

[cesium-sheep]

@crippled-sheep​ I don’t know that I feel up to an actual back-and-forth so it may require further revisiting, but I did want to more clearly explain my actual point of disagreement from the other day while I have the (many, many) words for it.

so first a point of clarification, I strongly strongly prefer the term “neurodivergent” over “neurodiverse”. I know they’re nearly identical and probably come from the same linguistic root but neurodivergent pairs much more clearly with neurotypical, and “neurodiverse” has “handicapable” vibes to it for me. neurodivergent (or neuroatypical, which is harder to parse and less ideal) also still has a connotation of Weird, divergence rather than diversity.* my primary issue with broadening “the neurodivergent/neurodiverse community” to cover the entire mental illness community is that “the neurodivergent community” already meant something specific. the term is already in use. and it’s really really valuable for autistic/adhd folks (and folks with other closely related disorders by internal experience, not by behavior, behaviorists can kiss my grits) to be able to find each other easily. we’re not being offered a replacement term and there wasn’t one already in use, so as an autistic person who required access to community in order to figure myself out, it feels very much like nt mentally ill folks going “mm, no, ours now” and actively taking something away. (also see how useful a quick recognizable distinction is even in this sentence.)

if we had a replacement term in common use it really wouldn’t bother me that much! I’d still have some qualms with it** but I probably wouldn’t bother raising a fuss directly when other people used it.

it’s kinda like how the nonbinary community has moved away from using “nb” as a shorthand for ourselves, because we were told that the black community had already been using nb to mean non-black presumably longer than we’d been using it to mean nonbinary, so our use was causing unnecessary confusion and potential distress.*** broadening “neurodivergent” to mean the whole mental illness community and its offshoots/relatives causes unnecessary confusion and distress, as it was already being used to mean something more specific and losing that specificity breaks up community and muddles meaning (which distresses me lol).

I absolutely do think there should be a destigmatized umbrella term available for the broader community! which I did say even in my initial dissent. but I don’t think it should be chosen by actively taking away from a subcommunity, and I also don’t think a word change will magically fix any prejudice against mental illness. based on my own experiences as an ad hoc practitioner, a mentally ill person, and an advocate, I feel efforts are much better directed at destigmatization of existing community terms rather than finding (appropriating) one that might be more mainstream palatable and pouring effort into widespread adoption while leaving the subcommunity it was appropriated from in the lurch.****

tl;dr: the only actual point of disagreement I have is over recent appropriation of This Specific Preexisting Term as the umbrella term due to the additional harm I see from it compared to using the preexisting umbrella term of “mental illness/disorder”. everything else you said about community and subcommunity and representation I genuinely totally agree with.*****

I hope that makes things a little clearer, even if we still disagree about the relative levels of harm between the two.

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* (and I don’t think using “neurodivergent” for one and “neurodiverse” for the other would work, as others will definitely struggle to parse the distinction. to the point where I genuinely couldn’t remember which one you used in the original context until I scrolled back to look. you were using “neurodiverse” and I was using “neurodivergent” and we both proceeded as if it was the same word.)

** (mostly demedicalization of some genuine potentially medical concerns to a degree that smells suspiciously like unexamined internalized ableism, which will significantly negatively impact people’s willingness to seek proper support and potential treatment at a time when we already have tiktok folks going “oh there’s nothing wrong with you you’re just a ~star child~” or whatever to audiences of millions. “oh I wouldn’t benefit from medication or therapy or other forms of treatment/support for mental illness I’m just ~neurodiverse~” yknow? which to be fair in my current usage of nd isn’t generally the case, we’re very big on medication and other supports for folks who would benefit from it even though there’s a very strong push for total demedicalization of autism in particular.****** I just feel that’s how I often see it used by people outside that subcommunity.)

*** (altho there is an even older use as a shorthand for “nota bene” often used to highlight important context, which I’ve picked up from friends that have done academic writing and very nearly used a couple times when writing this :v still think the black community wins custody of that one through a combination of both precedent and priority, especially given the “nota bene” use is generally very distinct contextually and not in direct connotative competition.)

**** (like how the disabled community as a whole is pretty firm about using the term disabled, or the chronically ill community is pretty firm about yes really I am Sick.)

***** (I think, to clarify the original original point of contention, the reason most people use “neurodiverse” to mean “autism and adhd” is because. that’s already the subcommunity term that was in use. we’re focusing on our subcommunity because that’s always been what we mean when we say neurodivergent. and the fact that usage is actively in flux seems to be causing distress and confusion for those who mean the broader usage as much as it is for those who mean the more specific usage. there absolutely should be community and resources for the broader usage gathered under an umbrella term, but I just would really prefer it if a different term could be used, such as the preexisting “mental illness/disorder” umbrella. because while I don’t think the specific usage has any distinct priority over the broader usage, it absolutely has precedent, and ignoring the precedent causes harm in excess of the harm I see in deferring to precedent.)

****** (but not the common secondary disorders that can come from existing as an autistic, importantly - I think the distinction is mostly just “treatment” for autism is generally far more harm than good, with some exceptions that are focused on functioning in a neurotypical world rather than actually treating symptoms. which is generally not the case outside of autism, at least for modern outpatient treatment of the mental disorders I’m familiar with as an ad hoc practitioner. also I’m so sorry for putting a footnote in a footnote lol I just have Many Opinions and A Very Large Character Limit)

#long post #ableism ment #ask to tag #crippled-sheep #text wall sorry :/ #the nd urge to clarify every single point vs the nd struggle to read densely packed text: fight! #(note that I'm using my current usage of nd not the broader use under discussion - generally doesn't apply much outside the subcommunity) #(at least certainly not as consistently) #I tried moving my parentheticals down into footnotes to make it slightly more readable #I have no idea if this is better or worse. #(personally I find it worse I have more difficulty with footnotes than I do with text walls) #(but hollyrose has been making an effort to make her text posts more accessible) #(so I figured I should at least make an effort when addressing em directly) #(even if the rest of the blog remains personal blog textwall hellscape) #(since I'm really not that bothered about others being able to parse it) #(as long as y'all can filter out what you need to avoid) #(but this post isn't just for me so :v )

[king-cowb0y]

abled people suck actually. y'all don't get what eugenics means y'all shouldn't be allowed to use the word eugenics is literally 'trying to "improve" human population by getting rid of "undesirable" traits' which is literally trying to keep disabled people from existing/having kids.

telling somebody that they shouldn't have kids bc they're disabled and those kids might have that disability is being a eugenicist. it's that simple

#eugenics tw #ableism ment #there are always exceptions like if you're a person whose disability actually keeps you from surviving childbirth #then somebody who knows that reminding you of that isn't inherently eugenicist #but a lot of disabilities don't impact survivability of childbirth #or pregnancy #AND ALSO THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH DISABLED CHILDREN EXISTING. #so much of eugenics gets cloaked as “think of the children” and i AM fucking thinking of the children. #trying to keep disabled children from existing means no support for disabled children which means ultimately you will disable children #lack of medical care creates disability. poverty creates disability. everyday accidents create disability. #you can't get rid of it and you don't need to #AND YOU SHOULDN'T.

[ndcultureis]

ND culture is being seen as the "bad" neurodivergent aka personality disorders, schizophrenia, psychopathy and not being really widely accepted for your symptoms:(

I rarely see any positive posts/blogs for us

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#neurodivergent culture #actually neurodivergent #mod emri #ableism ment

[klugpuuo]

I guess the thing abt jomestucks Badness is that YES the characters apologized and grew up and moved on but Hussie Didn't. and many of the characters literally cannot apologize because their ENTIRE EXISTENCE is a racist caricature or a gateway for ableist jokes or whatever.

Hussie still uses the word "retard" , probably "cripple" too. he doesn't have a problem with it. Hussie still made a transcoded autistic coded character hypersexualized and made a point to mention her Dog Dick and named her kid fucking Yiffy. Hussie made the comic not in the year 1920 when the r slur was still a relatively neutral, if rude, descriptor: he used it when it was a slur, he used it casually and jokingly and he knew exactly what it meant.

there's no reason to support him or directly support the comic. thanks for coming to my ted talk bye

#r slur #ableism ment #racism ment #ableism mention #racism mention #transphobia tw

[sleepyseadogg]

Omg i never heard of those fics, what are they about? Should i read them to be able to judge? Is mercy the one on fanfiction.net?

if mercy’s on fanfiction.net i wouldn’t know i only really frequent ao3 tbh. i see people praise it a lot

you can read it if you want but i just wouldn’t advise it. it tends to handle topics such as suicide and mental health really poorly and in a very insensitive and tone deaf manner and puts a huge focus on nsfw (i won’t get into detail about that part but there’s a couple things wrong with that and how it’s written). the fic could use a warning about mentions of csa since i’m pretty sure that’s brought up too.

the ableism comes from the work’s blatant erasure of simon’s disability. he canonically uses a wheelchair due to his paraplegia and the author decided to write simon getting his disability “fixed” by some impossible, fantasy surgery so he would be able to walk and have several chapters full of gay sex with david leatherhoff. he is disabled. i cannot express enough that disabled people do not need to be “fixed”. if you can’t write disabled characters respectfully, don’t write about the characters at all. there’s more i’m sure i’m missing but trust me when i say it’s a lot of hot garbage.

i can’t really comment a whole lot on We Fear The Cry Of Monsters. it’s not something i’ve read in its entirety but i actually enjoyed one or two of the works in that series. cry of fear tag on ao3 sometimes happens to be a bit of a hit or miss with some things. bad fanfiction does sort of inspire me in a way to write more of my own works tho. i’ve been meaning to write something cof centric again

#i refuse to link mercy but it’s not hard to find #suicide ment #csa ment #ableism ment #also begging cof fans to stop writing fucking dubcon/rape fics ohh my gooddd #i can give good fic recs if anyone wants them tho. there ARE still good things to read i’ve really liked #long post #cof #aom

[just-antithings]

I noticed that in your recent "anti dni hall of shame" submission, the term "transdisabled" is brought up. What does that mean? I have never seen it before in my life, never even heard of it, but seeing it for the first time makes me go "they don't want ppl who are trans and disabled interacting with them????" even though i doubt thats what that actually means.

Transabled is an identity term and it's a) a real medical condition and b) feeling like/wanting a disability. The term is p controversial atm and the two definitions I've provided are a venn diagram - the medical condition (BID) and the term transabled are not always the same thing. Not every person who identifies as transabled has BID. Some people with BID do not like the term transabled and think it should not be used.

Most of the issue people have with the term transabled is that it makes "real trans[gender] people look bad", the other issue is some disabled people think it's ableist.

It's also a transX label, another controversial set of labels. I can probably dig up some introductory posts later if people are interested.

#transabled mention #ableism ment #transphobia ment #transx ment #mod seraphim

[cronus-amproship]

ok i knowv this isnt proship related but people need to realise something

ableism isnt just ‘’person being mean to autistic person because of their autism’’ or ‘’person calls other person a slur because theyre dyslexic’’ or ‘’there are no ramps on this building’’

ableism includes stuff like ‘’making fun of a person for mental-illness related issues they havwe’’ or ‘’making a person into a joke purely because of something that freaks them out thats related to their paranoia’’ or ‘’being an asshole to a person for being a little upset wvhen you knowv that person suffers from depression’’

for example: a fewv friends of mine think its funny to threaten to put food on my clothes, or to make jokes and lie about my clothes not being clean wvhen that is a MAJOR ANXIETY THING FOR ME relating to my stress-caused OCD

that? thats ableism, wvhether you accept it as ableism or not

making a joke at the expense of someone else, wvhile using their mental illness or neurodivwergence or wvhatevwer, and their response to wvhatevwer stress you are putting them under? THAT. IS. ABLEISM

you are GOING OUT OF YOUR WVAY TO STRESS A PERSON OUT because you think its FUNNY

THAT. IS. MOTHERFUCKING, ABLEISM. END OF STORY

- sincerely, a VWERY FUCKING ANNOYED MENTALLY ILL AUTISTIC DUDE

note: you refusing to STOP doing wvhatevwer it is that upsets that person? that makes it wvorse. fuck you if you do that.

#actually autistic #actually neurodivergent #ableism tw #tw ableism #ableism ment #i dont knowv wvhy people cant just fucking understand that making a joke out of a persons mental illness and stuff for your owvn fucking - #- amusement is ableism #fuck that

[neopronouns]

y'all might wanna block @/idontlikedanica. they randomly messaged me just to be ableist, and idk if i'll be their only target.

#dexter.txt #mogai #ableism ment #tbf it was a pathetic attempt at offending me #they said they could tell i'm autistic which. good. i want you to fjkldgskf i love being autistic