Our massive island had fared well for Prythian by comparison, with only the bottom tip given over to us miserable humans. The bulk of the sacrifice was borne by the southernmost of the seven territories: a territory painted with crocuses and lambs and roses. Spring lands.
absolutely detest the amount fey/re lowkey shit talks the humans in her inner monologue. she hasn’t even been turned into a fae yet and i don’t think she’s ever said a kind word about the humans, not once.
(also is it just me or is the phrasing “our massive island had fared well for prythian” kind of weird? like, isn’t the island itself called prythian?)
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Lucien is sweet and kind in a way that none of the other male characters of Acotar are. All of these horrible things have happened to him, his friends and family have betrayed and thrown him aside multiple times, and he still wants to help. He still wants to fight for those who are even weaker then him, and just be a good person regardless of how it could benefit him.
He has nothing and no one and he still tries.
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TW: MENTIONS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT!!
Rhysand touching Feyre Under The Mountain.
Sarah J Maas fetishizied non-consensual touching in this scene. That was HER fault and HER fault only because Rhysand is a fictional character and you can hate him all you want but we have to talk about this.
Look I know that Rhys was supposed to act like a bad person in those scenes but he touches Feyre without her permission which is weird, disgusting and triggering,even for the person he was Under The Mountain.
But he does a complete 180° in the next book. Respectful and polite (though, extremely smooth and annoying but we love him for that) and just the man. That is completely off character.
No person LIKE THIS↑, including the fact that they themselves were a sexual assault victim for 50+ years can think of touching someone without their consent.
Sarah indirectly just portrayed an extremely wrong thing that maybe she believes: " ALL MALES, REGARDLESS OF THEIR OWN PAST AND MENTALITY,ARE SEXUAL PREDATORS"
Plus the fact that Rhysand's horrors weren't ever talked about in her books.
That is extremely condescending and disgusting to write and portray and I will keep believing that this was her fault.
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Parallels / (another) crack theory of mine:
Remember how, when Feyre was turned Fae, while she was ded her soul or whatever clinged onto Rhys in order to survive?
Now what if the same actually happened to Elain & Nesta in the cauldron??? It’s constantly been mentioned how one had to have enough will power to survive the process. Maybe this wasn‘t an issue at all because they both had their mates present in the room (just like Feyre had Rhys under the mountain...)
And maybe they wouldn‘t even have noticed because they’re no Daemati. (Lucien didn‘t notice Feyre inside his head...)
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fuck it nesta totally had a daydream about mor teaching her to dirty dance and no one can convince me otherwise.
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If you only like two characters in an entire series and constantly make posts shitting on the rest of the series, why are you even here?
Why not read and discuss something else that brings you joy?
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Me rereading ACOMAF just to get the end, you know, the Cauldron scene, just to get to ACOWAR, just to read about Elucien -
- meanwhile being stuck in middle of Feysands mating frenzy that my 15-year-old self went nuts about.
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What we thinking of this fancast??
Nesta: Zoey Deutch
Elain: Elle Fanning
Feyre: Anya Taylor Joy
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Ok so idk why I’m this confident in my ship but at this point I don‘t even understand anymore how people believe Elucien wouldn‘t happen. Like are we actually reading the same books?
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If Sarah j Maas rolled out books like JLA with the from blood and ash series there could be peace in the world and the fandom won’t argue everyday.
She releases like two books a year for the same series.
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how are you going to say gwyn wanting to bond with her newfound sisters by honoring a tradition [friendship bracelets] her and her sister did before she was killed is something childish when fucking azriel, cassian, and rhys participate in a damn snowball fight every year!
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You know, Elain & Lucien will some day joke about how everybody at Night Court awkwardly be trying to include them and make them feel comfortable.
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redrose2324 said: Okay so for books it’s up to everyone’s interpretation I felt like they weren’t letting her set the pace that’s up my understanding, every reader has their own view and I felt like they didn’t let her set the pace , feyre says you could have been nice to him , he brought you a gift , Elain responds with that doesn’t give him the right to my time and that he doesn’t know me and also she says I don’t want a mate or male , what I felt like to me as reader was overall she didn’t want a relationship
redrose2324 said: I always felt as reader that if Elain wants az instead which she had shown through her actions her character should be with person that she wants not the person that she doesn’t and if overall she still doesn’t want a male , then she should just stay single for however long , but shouldn’t feel pressured , so again I got that feeling as a reader so my understanding of her choices and feelings are different from yours
redrose2324 said: Also I don’t want her with Az I want her to have the choice to love who she wants and for me as a reader I feel like the best thing for character arc is stay single , but then again this brought by every reader having different opinions
i think your interpretation of the books is valid because it’s yours. i think people should be able to ship anything they want. i literally don’t care if someone wants elain to go on a cross-country holiday orgy with tarquin, helion, vassa, bryaxis. you do you. however, my initial post was about throwing around the term “anti-feminist” because someone doesn’t like a ship. there’s no need to push that agenda when no one is stopping you from shipping what you want.
you can feel however you feel about elucien, i’m not here to change your mind. i think you made a solid point about wanting elain to be with whoever she wants and that if she wants az she should be able to make that choice. i’m team elain here before team elucien. i will say that i haven’t seen a single elucien shipper claim that elain doesn’t want az, her intentions seem very clear. his intentions seem clear as well. it’s about whether that want, that attraction, is anything other than physical. because from az’s point of view it seemed like a very shallow connection of desire while his scene with gwyn hinted at a deeper connection developing imo.
and i will say elain’s feelings are unknown. we don’t have her point of view. we don’t know why she seems to push lucien away, but has spent 2 years not figuring out this bond and whether to reject it or not. she’s still an enigma. we can all interpret what we think about her intentions through the text, but overall i wouldn’t trust feyre as a reliable source when she also spent the entirety of acomaf thinking mor was in love with azriel.
i say ship whatever you want, but let’s not point fingers at one side of the fandom as being “anti-feminist” when they like a couple you don’t and let’s just wait for elain’s time to tell us what she wants/how she feels.
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See? Sarah succeeded in writing about the Inner Circle not being perfect and the HEROES everyone claims them to be. I think SJ Maas wanted to write this portion of their characterization. We need more of these scenes; I love them but the Inner Circle is not PERFECT okay? And I don't like them most of the time.
I still have that rage within me when THEY mocked the Band of Exiles.
redrose2324 said: Will I would think of it as anti feminist with Elain and Lucien because she has consistently stated that she doesn’t want him , so if she was forced to embrace the bond that would be taken away her right to have a choice , but with az she feels comfortable around so if they were mates then Elain would be happy and feel safe which again should be the priority for women to feel safe in their relationships with anything and to not be forced into any type of situation aka the mating bond in this
ok, but i literally said no one wants elain to choose lucien because of a bond, but because she gets to know who he is and wants him. and no, elain has never stated she doesn’t want lucien. she has stated she doesn’t want a bond. so why is it ok to want her to have a bond with azriel? doesn’t that strip her of her choice if she’s mated to him? no one is forcing elain into anything. that’s why she hasn’t broken or accepted the mating bond in 2 years. they are letting her set the pace, lucien is letting her set the pace.
i don’t care if you ship elriel, elucien, heliain, morlain, but let’s not say elucien is anti feminist for a mating bond and then want her bonded to azriel in the next breath. you want her with azriel? yay, go you! you want her bonded to azriel and be mates? yay, go you! but it’s not anti feminist of eluciens to want her to explore all her options. to want elain to actually get to know lucien.
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love seeing how a mating bond is anti-feminist for elain when it involves lucien, but suddenly it’s about elain’s choice it she’s mated to azriel.... that’s not how this works lol. no one wants elain to be with lucien because of the mating bond. i personally want her to get to know him and then choose him because of who he is. just like feyre did with rhys. just how nesta did with cassian.
interesting how feysand and nessian never suffered the “anti-feminist” title, but elain choosing lucien over az somehow is?
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imagine liking eris over lucien. couldn’t be me.
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Unpopular opinion: cruel prince is what acotar tried to be
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