#alma hurt the family

[lawrencelessland]

alma is not a bad person and in this essay I will

#alma hurt the family #alma had good intentiond #bruno #bruno encanto #encanto bruno #bruno madrigal #alma madrigal #encanto alma #alma encanto #encanto #encanto spoilers #pedro madrigal #encanto pedro #yall the term is trauma for a reason #alma is reacting out of trauma!!! she is doing her best but she is Traumatized #and r Both True

[iblade290]

Did i think bruno needed to apologize in all of you? Nope

Do i think his family, specifically alma and pepe owe him an apology? Yes

Did i enjoy his verse in all of you? Absolutely, he has the range 💚

#encanto #bruno #encanto disney #bruno madrigal #all of you #also I think that town is way too reliant on the madrigals #luisa does a lot of heavy lifting #I love strong women but is she the only person in town that has to be everywhere at once ??? another anxiety from surface pressure #luisa = atlas #and alma marrying Isabella off for what reason?? #shes not a princess #they aren't royalty #they never address why #but it is a kids movie sooo #luisa and Isabella are the ones bending over backwards for alma - i mean the moms gift makes sense #she can just leave a tray of food everywhere for people who are hurt to snack on #sorry i just think the townspeople need to learn to not leech on the family #like they're mostly young adults not ready for the responsibility of taking care of a whole town #i loved the movie #sorry

[nael-opale]

"I'm okay," she said. She was not okay.

She was emotionally compromised by hand-holding in a Disney movie.

Screenshots from Inspiring Disney's Encanto

#I JUST REALIZED THESE SHOTS MIRROR EACH OTHER ! #SHE BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER ! #Mirabel Madrigal #Bruno Madrigal #Alma Madrigal #Encanto #extra detail to make you more emotional : Bruno offered his hands and gently put his tumbs on her hands #later - Mirabel does the exact same with Alma #Bruno showed her the way to reconciliation in more ways than one #she knew that this gesture would be comforting because he did it for her #now I'm hurting but in a good way #just wanna hold hands with family but I'll be fine #wanna hold hands with anyone - really #ah~ ''touch-starved'' and ''yearning'' : my precious Tumblr vocabulary ✨ #hope I spread a bit of feels

[kinschi]

I have to disagree. Just because she became more of a hard ass after Mirabel's ceremony doesn't mean she wasn't already affecting her kids. Otherwise Bruno wouldn't have left. He was also adamant that he had to protect Mirabel from his mom and shift all of her blame onto him and that can't just be from 10 years of being isolated behind the walls... that's from him KNOWING from his own experiences with her.

I didn't say it wasn't affecting her kids! Of course she was! In fact I said I'm sure that there always has been a lot of stress put on them because of their gifts caused by Alma. And yes Bruno did have his reasons for thinking like he had no other choice but to leave. He and Pepa probably didn't have the best relationship with their mom and for sure the triplets were directly and negatively affected by Alma's behaviour and her unresolved trauma. But that's why I said "that controlling, or that mean" and not that she wasn't.

#anon #ask #that's the thing though she's such a complex character #of course she wasn't the best mom (hence the generational trauma) and hurt her family deeply #she can still love her family tho #also Bruno's thinking is obviously also caused by the townspeople since he quotes the fish lady for his bad visions... not smth alma said

[loidforgerphd]

encanto and the way intergenerational trauma passes down not only in the “elders and how their behaviours impact later generations” way but also in that visceral “i do this because of something my ancestors went through that i have no intimate experience of but have that inexplicable feeling of deep in my bones” epigenetics-esque/‘the body keeps a score’ way

#the ‘trauma invariable changes u down to ur body n dna way’ #thinking about luisas line in surface pressure ‘i hide my nerves and it worsens / i worry something is gonna hurt us’ and internally #screaming crying throwing up #luisa and the rest of the younger generation has no godamn PERSONAL EXPERIENCE of the kind of violence abuela alma went through #encanto has been a safe haven for them and their parents their whole godamn lives #they have no frame of reference for fearing the idea of being hurt or being displaced or losing their home!!! BUT THEY STILL HAVE *SOMETHING #IN THEM* THAT TELLS THEM THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO BE SCARED OF… #it’s not just a metaphor the trauma has invariably changed their dna in such a way that they fear that which they’ve never gone through #but their ANCESTORS did. and that’s what matters. it’s ur body trying keeping u safe from an inherited trauma GAHHHHHHHH #i’m literally insane rn pacing going crazy. i’m sure there’s other examples in the movie but that’s the one that stood out the most to me #bc i was listening to the song just now #encanto #disney encanto #og #intergenerational trauma #luisa madrigal #alma madrigal #madrigal #madrigal family

[beeyoungkah]

I totally get Isabela and Luisa having to keep up a façade of like perfection/strength being older sisters but not only that, it's because they felt they HAD to.

Their baby sister, Mirabel, didn't get a gift like them, and it's awful, yes, but also they must've felt like they had to make up for what Mirabel lacked. They aimed to please Abuela more because Mirabel didn't get one. They helped out with the town more with their gifts because Mirabel couldn't.

And they bottled up their emotions for years because they probably felt they couldn't run to their parents because they thought Mirabel probably needed their attention and support more.

Isabela had Abuela, who cared for her most when her parents couldn't because they were busy with their duties/chores and have to make sure Mirabel was okay. I get that Isabela ended up clinging to her Abuela because she felt like she was the only adult she could go to.

And Luisa... oh boy.. Luisa just kept it in. She was older than Mirabel and she was stressed and so busy but more than anything, she loves her little sister and her family. And she was strong, she believed she was strong, she kept telling herself she was strong, and so she endured.

#encanto #i love the madrigal family so much #we needed more of Julieta's side of the family #I believe Agustín and Julieta did their best #but Isabela and Luisa would always say that they were fine #because really #why would you tell your parents you were hurting #they love their mamá and papá so much and they dont wanna break their hearts omfg #they just end up dodging the questions and end it with an 'im fine' #isabela madrigal #luisa madrigal #mirabel madrigal #julieta madrigal #agustín madrigal #alma madrigal #disney #the madrigal family #the madrigals

[disregardcanon]

i think that the most tragic part about abuela encanto is that she never got to properly mourn her husband, because i think that she tied his death up in “getting the miracle” in her brain along with the fact that her entire support system is now Strangers Who Think She’s Magic TM and... three infants. so there’s no room for mourning when we got so lucky! we’re so lucky that we’re still here!

so this woman must have just gone immediately into Community Matriarch Mode because she didn’t feel like she had any other option. yes, pedro died, but we got a miracle out of it, right? we have to be grateful. the light shone upon us and we have to make sure that it keeps shining because there are so many things that can hurt all these people under my protection, and i don’t even understand how it works? and if i show a moment of hesitation, then they won’t believe that they’re safe and how can i do that to them instead of just shouldering the burden alone? they’re counting on me. they have been since we got the miracle (since pedro died and left me alone)

#encanto meta #encanto #like alma madrigal is such a tragic hero it's so moving #AND THAT DOESN'T MAKE HER METHODS ANY LESS HARMFUL TO HER FAMILY EITHER! #that hurt still happened... even though it was well-meant #and now they just have to learn how to deal with it in a healthier way... together

[never-ending-fanfic]

In one of the cut scenes Mirabel is told to clean the house for Antonio's ceremony with the Agustin and Félix and they share the story about Bruno (whose original name was Oscar) and Félix says that before he left he was to have a huge fight with Abuela where she would say: "If you leave this house, you're dead to me" to what Bruno was to reply: "I wish I was dead!"

And I'm thorn between being angry that we've been robbed of this scene and being relieved that my heart has been spared from it.

P.S. go watch this scene if only for the amazing relationship between Félix and Agustin!

#though now that I know it doesn't hurt any less #I keep imagining it #and I wanna cry everytime #disney encanto #encanto #encanto cut scenes #la familia madrigal #the madrigal family #bruno madrigal #mirabel madrigal #alma madrigal #félix madrigal #agustin madrigal #antonio madrigal

[androidemotions]

Thinking about how its Bruno that rides into the place where his father died to men on horse to confront his mother.... like Bruno had absolutely no idea of the context of that place, alma said she couldn't bring herself to ever go back so she never took her kids there. And so Bruno riding in is a complete recontextualization of part of those sense memories, like suddenly alma is back in this grove but its her son riding in to meet her and protect mirabel.

like...... she finally can move past this trauma bc her family is with her to face it.

#Bruno being paralleled with the riders in that scene made me so insane like what is this implying #but I think its just the fact that its part of that memory for her but now she's confronting it with support from her family and because #she needs to bc it was hurting her family #idk tho it also might be like because Bruno is her only son and he's the one who dissapeared bc of the pressure from.her #Which is bc his father died and she was traumatized so like she couldn't help but see the worst in every possibly danger to the family so #him riding into the place where his father died and its the first time.she's seen him in YEARS. #and he's doing it to protect mirabel and alma just hugs him because she almost pushed him away and lost him too #idk man.... #note to myself #many thoughts #wait #encanto spoilers #kinda

[fandomregina]

ok hear me out. this was posted by @the_.madrigals on instagram. look at Mirabel. Everyone else is well posed. Dolores doing her little 'I hear something!' pose (which nobody else is doing a pose to 'show' what their power is so I 100% assume she actually heard something as this photo was taken and my girl looks confused lol). Camilo has his arm around Antonio. Pepa and Felix are behind them being adorable. Abuela, as always, is in the middle holding the candle. Agustín is behind Julieta and Isabela being adorable (:D) and Luisa is also on the end with Mirabel. Mirabel 100% got pulled in by Luisa. She has her arms crossed and she's leaning awkwardly. she's at like... 240 degree angle lol. She was going to be so far off to the side, standing away from her family. She could've just stood infront of Luisa. She's tall enough. But then she would have to stand next to Isabela and look like she wasn't being almost excluded by the family. Also her smile is killing me. it's the smile a lot of kids do whenever their parent is taking a photo of them and they have to smile and they don't want to.

But, in all seriousness, I saw a post one day where someone was talking about a certain lyrics in the song "The Family Madrigal"

"But now you all know the Family Madrigal

I never meant this to get autobiographical

So just to review the Family Madrigal"

Mirabel doesn't want to talk about herself. Ok, she has no gift. We get it. Because this song is pretty much just about their powers. But she includes the guys also. They don't have powers so even they are included (but Im pretty sure they're just held to a different standard and it's "okay" that they don't have powers just bc they're married in). In the post, OP also analyzed that not including herself in the song also means she doesn't really see herself as being part of "the family Madrigal". I think this photo (along with the photo taken after Antonio got his gift in his room right before the song "Waiting on a Miracle") shows just how much Mirabel feels like she's so distant/separated from her family. In the photo, she was almost forced into it by Luisa, her smile is painful, and honestly? I think she doesn't even want to be in it. Although the towns people know she's in the family Madrigal and include her in some ways, she's still treated differently than them (like Bruno - like how he's in the mural in the town but isn't talked about) and probably is talked about differently. Yep that's all.

#like she's so distanced from them it hurts #and luisa pulled her in #poor girl :( #poor mirabel #mirabel madrigal #agustin madrigal #pepa madrigal #julieta madrigal #alma madrigal #isabella madrigal #luisa madrigal #the family madrigal #the family madrigal angst #angst #encanto

[starrmaiden]

if I see one more post that's like "Mirabel and Bruno should have walked away from their horrible abusive family 😠 they shouldn't have forgiven abuela because she the worst and didn't deserve it. Mirabel and Bruno shouldn't have apologised", I'm going to scream. Like, you're missing the whole point of the movie

#I could probably write a whole essay on this but not right now because I'm tired 😅 #this isn't directed at anyone in particular because I've seen this opinion so many times I've lost count #ugh it just makes so mad #also the whole 'stop normalising this family dynamic' like shut up 😐 #the madrigals remind alot of my own family #and it's not perfect but it's still my family :/ #if something is broken that doesn't mean you just throw it all away #this isn't about legitimately abusive and toxic families btw #because family isn't everything but it's not nothing either #like the madrigals have acknowledged their burdens and how they hurt each other and are trying to fix that #that's an amazing step in the right direction and as long as they keep taking steps #they'll be alright #encanto #oops I just wrote the essay in the tag 😅 #the way I have much more to say too #anyway #mirabel madrigal #abuela madrigal #alma madrigal #isabela madrigal #luisa madrigal #julieta madrigal #agustin madrigal #bruno madrigal #pepa madrigal #felix madrigal #dolores madrigal #camilo madrigal #antonio madrigal #also?? did you all forget that immediately after mirabel and bruno apologised they were told that they didn't need to 🤨 it's in the movie

[blackroseaki38]

Chapters: 1/? Fandom: Encanto (2021) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Agustín Madrigal/Julieta Madrigal, Agustín Madrigal & Bruno Madrigal Characters: Bruno Madrigal, Agustín Madrigal, Julieta Madrigal, Pepa Madrigal, Félix Madrigal, Camilo Madrigal, Mirabel Madrigal, Antonio Madrigal, Luisa Madrigal, "Abuela" Alma Madrigal Additional Tags: Hurt/Comfort, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Family Feels, Angst, Past Child Abuse, Family Bonding, Touch-Starved, Anxiety Disorder, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, Bruno Madrigal Needs a Hug, Kidnapping, Platonic Cuddling, Brotherly Affection, Brotherly Bonding Summary:

Agustín loved his in-laws and he loved his brother Bruno too. Seeing him more like a younger sibling, Agustín is happy he's back home.

Their family is back together.

Until outsiders hear of someone who can see the future.

~~

Since the bestie of life and I are on the same wavelength right now, check this out her fic. @whistlemist did a great job as always to break and put my heart back together.

#agustin madrigal #bruno madrigal #julieta madrigal #pepa madrigal #felix madrigal #alma madrigal #hurt/comfort #emotional hurt/comfort #family feels #angst #past child abuse #family bonding #touch-starved #touch starved #anxiety #anxiety disorder #ptsd #bruno madrigal needs a hug #kidnapping #platonic cuddling #brotherly affection #brotherly bonding #ao3 #read on ao3 #fanfic #encanto

[balsee]

thinking about alma losing her husband but still being able to go on because she had her kids, thinking about how she watched her family grow and was starting to believe that things were going to be okay only to lose her only son! thinking about alma losing the most important men in her life and just having to shoulder that grief and move on :) anyway :))

#the movie leaves a lot of things unanswered #so when bruno up and left i'm pretty sure everyone looked for him until they had to make the tough decision to stop #and i'm sure alma's brain at one point jumped to the conclusion that he might be dead #when she's arguing with mirabel and she goes: 'bruno didn't care about this family!' you can tell she's obviously angry #but you can also hear how hurt she is #encanto #this woman goes through so much and i'am a puddle on the floor

[hyrques]

i've only scrolled through the encanto tag here for a bit but i'm already relieved that most of the posts that i've seen have been nuanced sentiments on the film's message... or even just coherent discussions on said message.

thank god that the whole "i'm completely disregarding the film's themes on generational trauma in bipoc families specifically colombian families by replacing them with queer and/or ND headcanons" eventually died down, and anyone who continues to do so are called out ,, But even after weeks since the film's release, i'm still subjected to tweets (mostly on local twt) about whether or not alma was the real villain n it's like... susmaryosep when will it END !!!!

#almost feb n ppl r still debating ab that im TIRED #the real villain is generational trauma ppl #alma is a complex n incredibly flawed person whose trauma is valid but her methods in protecting her family arent justified #how she treated her family ESPECIALLY mirabel fucking hurts #but god the ending gives me sm hope idk #n coming from a poc whose familial dynamics share some similarities w d madrigals #alma realizing her faults apologizing n most likely will be putting an effort in improving herself for her family esp bruno & mirabel #is a HUGE deal to me #its why i prefer the hc that she /does/ improve herself like obv it'll be a slow process but wow we love seeing character growth #sorry for ranting ab this n basically not adding anything new to d convo lol #i first watched encanto in dec like most of my mutuals #im relieved that most of us seem 2 share similar thoughts on d film (whether theyre things we liked/connected w or things that bothered us) #dont take this as an 'omg tumblr is SOO much better than twt' take btw 'cause its not lol #ive seen sm great takes ab the film on there too #ao3 is the real enemy here /hj #encanto #abuela alma madrigal #abuela alma madrigal positive #critical #zeph rants #edit: certain that ppl explained this alr but jus wanted 2 clarify that making queer/nd hcs on d madrigals isnt inherently bad #unless ure doing so by mistaking & eradicating cultural practices n mannerisms as 'proof' for ur hcs #despite colombians informing u ab their significance #then fuck you

[notebookpapers]

“abuela’s trauma doesn’t excuse her actions” and “abuela’s actions do not make her the villain” are opinions that can, and should, co-exist

#the whole point is that her actions AREN’T INTENTIONAL #and sure that doesn’t make it right but that doesn’t make her an irredeemable person either #it takes a breaking point for her to realize it but her apology is genuine!!! she loves her family why would she want to hurt them??? #encanto #alma madrigal #abuela madrigal #abuela alma madrigal #disney encanto #encanto spoilers

[properlittleseductress]

“The cracks started with you.” What if they started when Bruno left? The two events were very close together in time. What if it was because he left and not because of Mirabel?

#Encanto #bruno madrigal #alma madrigal #mirabel madrigal #I’m not saying that Mirabel isn’t important but the cracks symbolize the disfunction of the family #Mirabel having a gift in and of itself isn’t something which hurts the family #Bruno leaving is something that does #so what if the cracks started when he left but worsened as the mistreatment of the family continued #(especially the mistreatment of Mirabel) #the snake boy hisses

[themountainsays]

Modern day Isa would definitely have tattoos with shit like this written on them:

Or something like “The desert works to forbid it but the cactus still blooms.”

You know @isamiral-soulwolf and i were just talking about the differences between book!Isabela and movie!Isabela, and book!Isabela would 100% totally get one of these, because she's soft and baby. Movie!Isabela tho? I see her a bit more on the punk-ish side.

#btw i'd never actually thought about the link between cacti thorns as a protective measure and isabela's actions like #like i always saw it as ''oh cacti aren't as cute and pretty as flowers'' but that last picture has me thinking like #like wait no they actuallh reflect her true personality better because secretly she always keeps her walls up #and she needs to stand up for herself aka defend herself even if it hurts her family's feelings #like a cactus hurting the people and animals that touch it #does that make sense??? #like an ''ugly side'' that needed to be accepted not only because it's part of her #but because it's exactly what she needs rn #sharp thorns to keep alma and that m/aluma dude AWAY #character analysis: isabela madrigal #kinda #sorta

[magicalmadrigals]

So, I decided to try my hand at writing my first fanfic for Julieta and Agustin and the response to it so far has been wonderful! I thought I would share it here so that you guys can go and check it out if you would like to! ♥️

AU: 19-year-old Julieta Madrigal and 18-year-old Agustin Martinez are madly in love, but there's only one thing stopping them from being together and that is her cruel suitor, Angelo Gomez. When Angelo learns that her heart belongs to another and abandons her and the family, Alma is disgraced by her daughter and Julieta flees Encanto with Agustin. The two of them search for their happy ending, but will they find it? And will Julieta's family learn the truth about her relationship with Angelo and mend their broken bonds? Only time will tell.

#julieta madrigal #agustin madrigal #julieta and agustin madrigal #julieta x agustin #madrigal family #la familia madrigal #encanto #disney encanto #romance #fluff #hurt/comfort #fanfiction #disney fanfiction #abuela alma madrigal #pepa madrigal #bruno madrigal #isabela madrigal

[nael-opale]

Okay, I've received two asks about the relationship between Alma and Mirabel, I'm working on it ! To be fair, it's a little bit harder for me to figure things out so far because :

I am still very much obsessed with Bruno, which means I spent a lot of time thinking about him lately and it helps my analysis

I am not the only one to feel so strongly about him ! It's easier to find clips of Bruno's scenes than it is to find the important scenes involving Alma... I saw the movie two times recently but it's harder to remember details without the clips.

Well...the grandmother/granddaughter tense relationship hits close to home for me. I still very much love and empathize with Alma's character, but some attitudes she has are just...ouch.

#Encanto #Mirabel Madrigal #Alma Madrigal #when the things she say / do suggest that she prefers her other grandkids to Mirabel because she does not conform to her expectations #the disappointed look #it HURTS - folks #my grandparents appreciate me more now that I grew up but as a teenager - it wasn't easy #I think they prefer boys and I have big brothers... #it was harder to exist in that context #growing up - I think they often considered me as ''inappropriate'' #I used to be a very outgoing 5 year old and I think they never knew what to make of me #apparently - I learned about condoms when my brothers got ''the talk'' and I was super excited to explain it to my grandmother 😂 #I find it funny - she didn't #I never came out as bi to them but...their reaction when I started hanging out at the local LGBTQ+ association's events was...not great #haha family - am I right ? #no but seriously : family is a loaded topic. #naelistic train of thought

[foreveranevilregal]

Tomorrow is my grandma’s birthday…she’s been gone over a year now. We were so close, still feels like a part of my heart is missing. Would appreciate some softness.

#personal #god it hurts so much #she was my person #the Alma to my Isabela #she was the fucking anchor in our family and she’s gone #it’s like a physical pain #i still can’t believe it