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bisexualrapline · 2 years
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Hey lovely!
So I’m very new to the kpop world and only have watched few glimpses of bts and Blackpink here and there. Blackpink are pretty but their music is just not my taste and I felt very good intrigued by bts music. I’m sorry if that offends any Blackpink fans please.
Also I’m black and I just asked on my twt account my followers if any were into bts and could recommend where I start... like album wise or just watch random mvs and then into their other content but the response I got was... interesting.
And I stumbled upon your blog cuz of a mutual (I happened to be bi too and your URL caught my attention).
So yeah... the response I got was “if you’re black stay away from bts” or “they all HATE black people so don’t waste your energy on them” and just other weird comments and I’m very confused. Is that true? Should I not get into them? I’m scared to google anything about them in case I find things I won’t like but they can’t be that bad if they’re this famous and loved right? I really really wanna get into their music cuz I heard this one song that legit it made me cry, it’s called spring days.
Please enlighten me or just give me advice. Because deep down, looking at them they don’t at all strike me as bad people. In fact they just give me positive and happy vibes.
I’m sorry if my question is offensive and you can ofc delete it.
Thank you ❤️
hi friend!
so to start, let me just say right off the bat that i’m not black and so it’s not my place to tell you whether or not bts has “made up” for their indiscretions. i think everyone needs to inform themselves on what bts has done, good and bad, and decide for themselves whether their actions have shown growth and self-awareness, enough that you can respect them as artists and people and be a fan. to address one thing in your message though: i would definitely disagree with the person who told you that “they all hate black people.” that is absolutely untrue and has never been true.
there is a really amazing compilation post here that lists literally everything bts has ever done, good and bad, in relation to all social justice issues. i read through it when i first became an army because i had my own reservations about them, and it was incredibly informative and eye-opening. again, it’s not my place to “forgive” them for any of the things mentioned in this post, but to me, it’s just important to know that they have grown and learned from their mistakes - whether or not that growth is enough for you to believe that they are good people is subjective.
it’s a really long, really detailed post, and i believe the last time it was updated was in 2020, so definitely keep that in mind too! it includes pretty much every incident i’ve ever heard about and provides context for everything too. i hope it helps you in some way and that you’re able to reconcile your newfound love for their music with the people that they are today. if you’re really not feeling reading through the whole post, you can scroll to the end for op’s “summary,” of sorts, and decide how you feel from there.
i’m sorry that i can’t be of more help, and i hope that the post i linked to helps you at all. if you’d want to come off anon and discuss anything with me further, i’m definitely happy to chat with you, as well. hope you’re having a lovely day! 💗
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zoekrystall · 6 months
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Added more in my pinned post and accidentally talked too much in the tags to hit the limit whoops. Added that txt yesterday bc I saw people primarily (some only) sharing donation links. Can you tell when I wrote stuff was I just ever so slightly irritated by all the emotions talk. Which yknow I get feeling angry and whatnot but I am specifically talking abt the stuff w "how can you not feel _". Idk if I already talked abt it or deleted it before hitting post some other time I think I did. Also was irritated by all the people yelling at people for being triggered like if you don't know the difference between discomfort and triggered do I not want you near me. That difference is very significant.
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Idk man I am just tired of people equating empathy w humanity the most. I'm really glad I hardened up more bc I just think abt 2020 where I think I got first truly radicalized or/and learned a fuck ton but also all that guilt tripping and all made the already bad mental health further nosedive and that is just not sustainable neither for the cause or us. Like yes sharing and all actions that do help are important but it's also important to step away and do anything else to not burn out in like a day or two. Luckily the people that get followed got shaken up a bit and dash and rbs get focused more on positivity in general since then and that def helped long term (was gen "would _ rb that" "would _ scold if I would rb that" until it became a no brainer when my lifeline wasn't there. not the time to gush but fuck do I think I would still be in the same mud without him). Still not the best but better than then so sharing is easier on the mental health.
I feel. So weird for not being able to feel empathy for others but def feel it when others irritate me. Yeah I feel bad when I don't feel anything but what does it bring to force myself to feel something. I already knew in 2020 that the trying to force myself was empty I only felt like I have to try to feel awful bc of all the guilt tripping. It's hard to explain how it feels I think it's such a strange feeling. Anyways I'm at least aware enough to know if I get irritated around this I shouldn't constantly be vocal abt it bc it really does not matter in the grand scheme of things this is the only post and if further will I just on private bc no-one needs to see that but sometimes venting is needed.
I'm only really talking abt that bc reg the trigger stuff like ffs people still need to be able to function and there are things to do without getting triggered if the heavy topics are what do it. Also the people that want to help through sharing those can look at that if they know what they'll see and can get prepared first. I got ptsd doesn't mean I never ever look at any triggering stuff ever again I just need to be in the headspace and a heads up would always be very good. Really wish twt would do it like here w not completely not showing the tweet (minus in replies where you can click to show) if it has smth muted but saying "yo this post got this muted thing ya wanna see it". Like. People getting triggered are absolutely not the same people bitching bc they're just uncomfortable. The latter are the bad ones I do agree but know the fucking difference. Feeling uncomfortable just living happens like daily for the most standard reason so feeling that abt a horrendous situation should be a given. You however shouldn't get triggered daily. Also yes we can admire the people there but not everyone is as strong you shouldn't guilt them into dealing w more than they can. I'm gen (starting to consider, already did a few though) immediately blocking everyone posting that stuff esp the aggressive ones. I do not care if you have x or y not everyone experiences things the exact same way. I am being so good abt holding back insults.
And reg the emotions thing like people learn not everyone feels empathy and that it doesn't make people anything bad and that actions count challenge. Not everyone w aspd for example is automatically a evil person. What matters is if they talk abt things and if they genuinely stand behind them. Idk if I speak for most or if just past self but writing in all caps "how can you not feel bad/sad/angry/etc at seeing [atrocity, usually as video attached]" will make people not magically care if they didn't prior it'll just irritate them and scroll away. Factual information is what can make people turn around more (like, literally just share without that commentary for example). So many "both sides bad" focus on emotions afaik. Compassion, empathy, etc for both. There are people that see and feel bad abt what happens to them but still say both sides bad.
I'm tired I'll likely sleep now but yeah I just. Wanted to write abt it and get it out ig. Rb disabled and I won't bad faith argument idc if any of this sounded privileged to you. I can prob write all this way more eloquent but man idc this isn't a post that is supposed to spread and I wrote this while being sleepy. I also think there is, for individual people that aren't big names, some nuance reg having to talk abt something and being allowed to not engage in every important topic but 1 that is too complex to just kinda ramble about 2 this current event is less nuanced reg that I def think try to share as much as you can even if just occasionally. I think I only don't like it bc not saying anything online doesn't equal not doing anything. Someone could go to every protest they can and write and call but just not using their socials bc that takes their energy enough or smth. And some have multiple accs and only focus spreading it on their main (and/or w the biggest following, which should be used). I think that is what specifically gets me. But yeah didn't think abt it enough to form enough abt it and also maybe talking more abt it when this is over bc how I said it is less complicated rn. And. Yknow. When I am not tired as hell.
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pokedcheck · 3 years
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proud of this tweet so i'll share it here too 💀
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badedramay · 3 years
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I have seen a lot of Previous " Osmaya" fans has started hating on Maya. After people started to link her with sherry. I mean Maya and Obi were just friends. And they still are good friends. The hate they spew on both Twitter and Insta is so hurtful to see as her fan. Don't you think these people never were Maya's fan?
i don’t think i am in touch with any Osmaya fan right now precisely because of their inability to care for Maya beyond their ship. as the saying goes..once-fans are worse than anti-fans. though tbf i do think them dropping Maya wasn’t just due to the osmaya ship sinking (which OH MY GOD was never a ship to begin with like I am BAFFLED at how people really properly genuinely shipped them as anything more than friends???? did I miss a memo somewhere that these two had any such spark between them? i’ve followed osmaya’s growth since 2012..was my eyesight really during all these years that I failed to see any non-platonic chemistry between them offscreen which this fandom had latched on to? like????????????) in my opinion they just couldn’t support Maya, her decisions, her actions, her career choices when she decided to grow away from her Osmaya sphere. some couldn’t deal with Maya shed off her girl-next-door, bubbly, gharelu mashriqi avatar and some just couldn’t handle her not just being a part of  Teefa but also supportive of Ali Zafar.
Whatever Maya does just isn’t good enough. her bagging a film directed by one of the most well respected names in the industry isn’t good enough cuz oh Asim Raza toh makes shit films..usse aata hi kya hai kuch? her giving a blockbuster drama like Mann Mayal and winning an award for it isn’t good enough cuz oh her character was so weaaaakkkk and like a door matt. her being overtly fond of her co-stars isn’t good enough cuz oh my god kitna chipakti hai regardless of her having acted quite similarly with all her co-stars yes Obi included (celebrating Obi’s bday on her own is cute...kissing him on the cheek is cute..rampwalks and photoshoots with him are goals...lekin haww hayee her doing this with someone else? tauba tauba loose character hogayi hai ladki)
Maya isn’t aware enough, isn’t well spoken enough, doesn’t take the right stand, doesn’t know the right words to say. Oh she’s pretty but she���s such a paindu. Damn Maya Ali is properly styling goals and oh my god I wish I could raid her closet but ewwwwwww this woman can’t string two sentences in English well snort snort giggle giggle who’d wanna stan her? kitni patli hogayi hai but uff the way she carries all her dresses is major envy goals but hayeee kuch khati nahin? very wrong messages she puts out. so clingy she is..so desperate..gold digger kahin ki..bechare ladke ko phaans diya uski engagement bhi tudwa di? homewrecker!
I mean she gives so much CONTENT..makes it so easy to hate her!! i mean who CARES if she has struggled with mental health issues so severe half her life that it severely affected her physically? who cares that the lack of proper care and attention from her parents during her developing years have quite possibly made her into a person who feels like if she doesn’t go out of her way to treat people specially they’d leave her (and then they eventually do anyway because they find it so easy to use and leave her) Who cares if she worked her ass off to be where she is and made a home, A HOME, for her family all with her own hard work? who careeesssssss if any single who has every worked with Maya or even know her at some level have nothing but good things to say about her? “Maya has the biggest heart” “A constant source of positivity” “i am in awe of your strength”...these are just some of the compliments Maya have gotten from some of the Approved Favorites™ of stan twt/insta but lmaoooo who cares probably she blackmailed them to say it about her.
Who the fuck cares about all this and much more? She failed to get into the pants the ultimate Woke Feminist Who Is Literally the Only Goal To Ever Have and stay there. That makes her a woman just not worthy of attention.
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