#although I was kind of rooting for him to kill Sylvie

[latent-thoughts]

I honestly agree with you on everything after ragnarok is not canon. Although I love Thor ragnarok, it’s an entertaining movie and ive seen it more times then I should, thinking about it now I’ve never seen Thor ragnarok as canon. it’s just been a movie that’s really shitty but entertaining, and funny when you don’t have context about the characters.

I just hate that it’s so disrespectful to the actual characters. AND what’s even worse, is that I did not even consider the movie disrespectful to the characters until I was on tumblr and found threads of old posts/things you’ve reblogged on why it is.

And everything after it, has come tumbling after.

People need to realise there’s a difference between entertaining cinema, vs actual good Quality cinema. Especially with something like marvel because it’s all “connected”. Marvel is choosing quantity over quality and it’s clearly showing.

Yup. Marvel-Disney has become the 'Five Minute Crafts' of movie making. They're pumping out multiple shows and movies annually, but there's hardly any substance to them anymore. Nothing actually connects in this so-called cinematic universe, but the promos and interviews will try to fool you into believing it.

There's no cohesive story, only easter eggs abound. They're mostly meaningless, because most of them have their roots in different storylines in the comics, not the movies. Like, wtf was Thanoscopter doing in the Loki series? Or why was Sylvie wearing the broken crown (which was originally worn by AoA Loki for very specific reasons)?

Moreover, every new entity boasts of bringing in a drastic change into the multiverse or having a powerful character like no other before them. Yet, all of this is forgotten in the next entity they release. Rinse repeat.

The problem with Ragnarok was that it wanted to be funnier and bigger than GOTG--a movie that somewhat broke the mold for MCU movies at that time. It constituted an unlikely team of antiheroes who became heroic, and it had a more zany kind of humour to it.

What Ragnarok didn't note was that GOTG had heart. It had zany humour, yes, but it also had plenty of poignant moments. It didn't make a joke out of everything, most certainly not the characters. Every character was handled carefully, their trauma and loss acknowledged despite their negative actions.

Ragnarok failed supremely at this. Bruce turned into a parody of anxiety attacks and 'useless' nerdiness (7 PhDs but can't fly a ship, haha). Loki--a character of a subjugated race, taken from his people, raised to hate his own race, a clear victim of Asgard's imperialistic and colonial agenda, was made fun of for simply existing. His trauma was ignored, his relationship to Thor was twisted to make Thor into a victim, and instead, his main oppressor, Odin, was glorified despite his war crimes and invasions. What more, the fact that Thor left Loki to die on Sakaar was glossed over and made into a joke. Valkyrie (she still doesn't have a name, even post l&t) was introduced as a slave trader (does anyone find it sus that a woman of colour was shown as a slave trader?) and this part of her life was never acknowledged again, not even by Bruce, even though she traded the hulk to the GM.

Thor...sigh, where do I even begin? Gone was the considerate and thoughtful Thor we had seen in TDW, the Thor who acknowledged his father's bad decisions and tried to counter them by putting his own life on the line. Gone was the Thor who held his dying brother in his arms and cried. Granted, canon Thor had his issues to overcome, but he was never crass and inconsiderate like Ragnarok Thor. Ragnarok not only uprooted Thor from his growing self awareness and growth, it uprooted him wholly from Asgard. Killed off his friends and killed off his home. And made a joke about it all.

There's so much more to say about that trash movie and it's confused purpose, but all in all, it put the first nail into the whole franchise' coffin. L&T is only a continuation of that, based in the same theme of ridicule and distasteful humour.

What rankles is that it could've been a great movie, had Chris and Taika taken their heads out of their respective asses for a bit to think it over. But they were too busy making toilet level jokes and jerking around the sets, ignoring the script (which btw had Thor admitting to his mistakes to Loki) and just improvising everything with their bs logic. Taika didn't even do his research on the characters.

And that's something he's proud of. A theme that has continued with the creators in other Marvel entities too.

I just feel very sad about it. Because phase 1 (even 2) Marvel was something if quality. Now, the characters these phases had established are either (unfairly) dead or completely unrecognisable. I no longer have any sense of anticipation for their new stuff. I don't even want to watch new movies or shows.*

Anyhow, thanks for visiting my askbox. ♥️

*Moon Knight is the only exception, and you'd note the show had no prominent easter eggs or even mentions of other characters from the MCU. Mayhe there's something to be said about that.

#anon ask #ask #ask box #mcu #Ragnarok #mcu loki #mcu thor #thor: love and thunder #thor: ragnarok

[lilithscontemplations]

So let's recap:

5 minutes of Loki and Sylvie wandering aimlessly in that castle.

35 minutes of The One That Remains (I suppose that's Kang?) talking and chuckling and making dramatic pauses while Loki and Sylvie sit there like bad kids in the principal's office.

The One That Remains saying: I kNoW EvErYtHiNg! followed by AnYtHiNg CaN HaPpEn NoW! five minutes later. (What's with the thunder? What changed? Why didn't he know the future anymore? Yeah, let's just sweep that under the carpet).

3 minutes of unimpressive fighting between the Loki who knows magic because his mother thought him but doesn't seem to use it (except to impress hot chicks with fireworks) and the Loki who claimed to only know 1 magic mind trick but then goes to use some offensive energy blasts...

1 "heartfelt" moment that made me roll my eyes and made no sense

1 one big cliché: We-love-each-other-but-we'll-fight-each-other-because-we-have-trust-issues-and-then-we'll-kiss-each-other-but we'll-still-betray-each-other.

Completely random and unexplained things happening at the TVA... (and even if the Timeline there is different now (why??) how come Mobius doesn't recognise Loki? Didn't he ever chased Loki variants there? Are there no Lokis in that timeline? Loki didn't invade New York? But hey, who needs logic anyway...)

And finally the biggest disappointment:

Where is the scene of original Loki in the Throne room??!! and the moment when he flips and says Glorious?!

I guess it was trailer bait only! I thought he was going to be the big villain (and the only good thing about this episode is that he's not) but I was looking forward to seeing original Loki for a few minutes. It was the one small gift I though we get from this terrible series and I've been waiting for it ever since I saw episode 1 and my fears about how it would look were confirmed.

I guess I must accept that as far as Disney goes original Loki is gone.

I wonder if Loki ever shows up in a MCU movie whether we'd get this Loki or something closer to the original.

#they get 1 point though for not making Tom-Loki the betrayer #although I was kind of rooting for him to kill Sylvie #I never managed to like her #Probably because they tried to make her the superior Loki #this series is like very bad fanfiction #Loki series negativity #Loki spoilers #loki series spoilers

[sylvies-chen]

I’ve always been really curious about Matt and his sister Christie’s relationship. When we first meet her on season 1 we find they aren’t close because Christie obviously doesn’t agree with the fact that Matt understands his mums actions even though it’s clear he hates that, that is how she chose to handle the situations but Matt points out that Christie was at college when things got really bad and she was their dads favourite. But just because your Matt stands up for his mum should that have been enough for Christie his older sister to have so little contact with him??

I’ve always been so curious about what happened after Matt’s mum murdered his dad. Did Matt go into fosters care, into a group home perhaps. How old was he? How old was Christie? Did Christie ever offer to take Matt? Did they have any family members to look after them after everything that happened? Christie and Matt have both mentioned that their family has always kept secrets, the murder and abuse isn’t a secret, so what secrets? I’ve always just been so curious about Casey’s past. It was such a big storyline but very little was revealed.

Also, I would like to see Matt, his sister and niece just have some nice family scenes like family dinners, maybe his sister could come to one of the 51 picnics. And I would love for Christie and his niece Violet to meet Sylvie.

I will forever be curious about the Casey family backstory too, mainly because I feel they only scratched the surface with that storyline! There’s still so much that’s left to be implied/left up to the imagination. This is going to be pretty long because I have THOUGHTS on this (hence, why it took me a while to reply) so buckle up people. You know the drill: read under the cut to see the full thing, folks. It's worth it, I promise!

In regards to Christie and Matt’s relationship, it’s interesting because I completely get why they were so estranged from each other at first?? As someone who also has a very complicated relationship with my brother, I can say that even the smallest of things can cause rifts between siblings— and the loss of their father at the hands of their mother was no small occurrence. Matt’s point about her not being around for the brunt of their father’s emotional abuse is not important as the one about being the favourite though. Because sure, she was in college by the time things got bad, but being the favourite also probably meant that she didn’t have to endure as much of their dad’s crap even when she was around.

My theory is that, most likely, it was because she was a girl. We all know that Greg Casey was a piece of shit to his wife so I don’t doubt that he would be rude to women, but fathers tend to have a different mentality when dealing with sons vs. daughters. It’s rooted in misogyny, really, the idea of having the “precious baby girl to protect”. I have no doubt that their father had that mentality when it came to Christie, seeing her as the pure little princess who could do no wrong. But because Matt and Christie’s father most likely raised them in an environment that valued toxic masculinity, it was Matt who was the focus of his attention. He wanted his son to be like him— to not be sensitive or vulnerable, to bottle his emotions— all of the things that “real men” do. So whereas Christie could have been getting pats on the back and being told “oh you’re my sweet little girl and you can’t date those loser boys” Matt was being belittled and taught how to internalize things. If And Christie wasn’t there to witness the worst of it, the murder of her father would have been more traumatizing. Family dynamics are complicated, but distancing herself from Matt was probably exactly what she needed at the time.

As for all the unanswered questions, again, I can only give my personal theories. In canon, we know that Matt was about 16/17 when his father was killed. Christie was in college by then so I doubt she had the money or time to take her teen brother in. I know it’s a common headcanon that Matt went into foster care temporarily during that year but I’m not so sure about that?? Contrary to what television has you believe, arraignment and sentencing proceedings do take quite a while. Someone my family knew was arrested for a serious drunk driving accident and it took the courts a little over a year to officially put him in jail— and that was for a pretty open and shut case. With something as complex as a murder trial, with various mitigating factors coming into play, it very well could have been a year by the time Matt’d mom was sent to prison. If they didn’t believe she was a flight risk I don’t see why they wouldn’t have let her out on bail during the trial, especially if she had a kid to take care of. And courts make special arrangements all the time for defendants with children/special circumstances. After that, if he was still under 18 by the time she was in prison, only then would he be either living with his family members or in the foster system. That’s when I think the possibility of him being in temporary foster’s care would become a viable possibility— because the Caseys had secrets. We learned in 9x09 and even before then that Matt and Christie do have aunts and uncles and grandparents some of whom were alive and well. So I have absolutely no idea what kind of secrets their family would have but I imagine they’re secrets that would prevent them from feeling capable of bringing a 16/17-year-old boy into their homes. In general, I’m just as bummed by the lack of information regarding the aftermath of Casey’s mom going to prison as you are!

I would also love to see more of Christie and Violet around the firehouse. It’s been too long! Nicole Forester (who plays Christie) is still tweeting about the show which seems a little odd if she was just doing a one-and-done sort of thing for Fire this season, so I’m holding out hope that maybe she comes back. Probably not with Violet, although I would love to see her again and have a check-in to see what she’s been doing all these years!

#please read this folks I promise I don’t ramble for too long #abby.answers #abby trying to be meta? it’s more common than you think #matt casey #christie casey #the casey siblings