#amicia de lacroix

[nightingaletrash]

vampire girls + femme enby <3 made in picrew

Evie Byrne - ravnos, troublemaker

Chloe Larson - thinblood, outcast

Kara Byrne - lasombra, historian

Amicia de Lacroix - lasombra, bloodtrader

Khalia Lais - toreador, seneschal

Alix Xiphias - malkavian, oracle

#vtm #vtmb #vtmnr #vtmpok #vtmsots #evie byrne #chloe larson #kara byrne #amicia de lacroix #khalia lais #alix xiphias

[robotslenderman]

Out of curiosity, what were Sullivan’s, Amicia’s, and Kara’s backstories? Specifically their time with the Sabbat. Were they any of the ones listed out in the Night Road game or were they original?

... Sorry anon, bad news, but the question you've asked has an answer which is actually a bit complicated.

(Okay it's not REALLY, but you got me talking and I talked far more than you probably actually WANTED. SORRY NOT SORRY)

So basically you gotta keep something in mind: Amicia and Kara were made by @nightingaletrash, and Sullivan is mine. They are all the childer of Millicent Rue, much like the canonical Lasombra courier from Night Road. They were all shovelheads, and after two years and her third surviving fledgling Millicent went "fuck it, I have three kids now, I'm never doing this again." After Millicent basically ditched the three of them, to survive, Kara went into working with artefacts, and Amicia and Sullivan became couriers. Kara would eventually be reunited with her biological daughter, who's a Ravnos named Evie (who you've probably seen me talk about -- Sullivan dotes on her), and at some point Amicia moved to Seattle, started a blood den, and became sexually and later romantically involved with Prince Cross.

That's where the simple bit ends.

In reality it's actually a bit complicated past that because of a few things.

Biggest thing: @nightingaletrash and I both have our own separate continuities. For the most part, 95% of what we talk about happens in both, but I essentially have a copy pasted version of Sullivan running around in her head, and she has one of her lot running around in mine.

The biggest differences in our separate universes are these:

In @nightingaletrash's continuity, Evie was the canon VTMB fledgling and Amicia was the canon VTMNR courier.

In Maddyverse (my continuity), Madeline (thus the name) was the canon VTMB fledgling, and my canon VTMNR courier was someone entirely separate called Elisa Mulgrew, my Gangrel, who is Lettow Kaminsky's childe.

So because of that there's minor differences in backstories. For example, I can't quite remember what Evie's backstory is in Maddyverse, where she's not the Fledgling (I have it somewhere!), but obviously she didn't have to deal with all the bullshit the Fledgling did so while she's still independent she's probably less anti-Sect than she is in @nightingaletrash's continuity. And in @nightingaletrash's continuity, Amicia was the canon VTMNR courier, so in her universe Amicia would've had more money sooner and therefore would've met Prince Cross and become influential over there a lot faster than she would have in Maddyverse.

We don't actually talk about the differences much, we just talk about what each universe has in common and if I've had to I just slightly adapt it in my head to fit Maddyverse, and I've always assumed she did the same thing for hers. I've never asked her her explicit thoughts on it but the way I see it, her version of Sullivan is just a duplicate copy that she can do whatever she wants to because my Sullivan is over here in my head, hers is an AU version of mine. She can do whatever she wants to her version of Sullivan because it doesn't have any effect on my (Maddy)version of Sullivan.

I don't do whatever I want with Kara or Amicia though because we've never actually explicitly discussed this and I don't want to be disrespectful of her ownership of her characters, as I know my interpretation is pretty laissez-faire compared to how most people feel about other people playing with their OCs. In any case, both universes have so much in common it's never had to come up, because they're all Millicent's childer, Amicia always ends up in Seattle, Sullivan always ends up working for Amicia -- the only thing that really changes between our heads is when it happens and what Amicia was up to and what Evie's backstory is.

(Am dying to know what Elisa'd probably be up to in her universe, though -- she'd have never diablerised Aila, and presumably wasn't able to come back to Tucson in 2019 because Lettow explicitly requested her as courier just so he could have his estranged childe close by to keep an eye on her. If Elisa was working in Tucson at the time, she'd have been given all the assignments, not Amicia, so there's no universe where Amicia is the VTMNR courier where Elisa could have been present. And given the Tucson court went tits up in @nightingaletrash's universe when Amicia betrayed them to the SI, either Lettow was destroyed before he could ever be reconciled with Elisa, or he went on the Beckoning before they were ever reunited. Which makes me really sad to think about because Elisa was struggling, and VTMNR was when the hardest part of her life as a vampire was finally put behind her. SO THAT GIVES ME THE SADS. Damn, now I've got a plotbunny biting...)

But if we look at their Doylian backstory it gets even more complicated lmao.

Because like. as a character. Sullivan actually started off as an AU version of another character.

(and feel free to tune out at this point because I realise this actually has nothing to do with your actual question of his IN-UNIVERSE backstory, AT ALL, lmao, sorry, it's more his out-of-universe backstory)

So. Maddyverse is Maddyverse because the fledgling is Madeline Jones, my first ever vampire OC. She had an identical twin sister called Meredith. Meredith went on to marry a Welsh trans man named Jonathan Grey and opened a pharmacy in Seattle. Here's a picture I made of him with Artbreeder before everyone realised how fucked up using AI was:

Meredith was walking home in December 2019 when she got involved in the mass Embrace. She is my canonical VTMB2 main character, although that may change by the time it finally fucking comes out.

I played with Jonathan a bit. I decided after Meredith's disappearance he closed their pharmacy and moved back to the UK, taking their twin daughters with him.

As he was a pharmacist, eventually he got the attention of a Brujah who wanted drugs, and was ghouled. Yeah, Jonathan had a fucking meth lab. He absolutely hated being a ghoul and as he got older and didn't age, he was forced to distance himself from his daughters and basically be a disaster father figure to protect them and also himself.

His Brujah domitor had a Lasombra enemy, who, while fucking with the Brujah, noticed that her ghoul seemed to be pretty resilient to her fuckery. Jonathan was pumped full of Brujah blood, so had a huge "FUCK YOU" streak. Lasombra got distracted trying to fuck with Jonathan and eventually tried to Embrace him.

It took her four attempts, that's how fucking stubborn and how much a fighter Jonathan was. But she managed it. Ended up being a bad idea, though: the first thing Jonathan did when he woke up from his Embrace was stake her ass and leave her out for the sun. And then go back to running his pharmacy.

Problem with this backstory is... Meredith was Embraced in 2019. With the amount of time that passed, by the time Jonathan was finally Embraced we're looking at it being after 2050 in the timeline. So I adored Jonathan and was itching to play him, but I'd never be able to in a modern game because he's too far ahead in the timeline.

But I wanted to play him in VTMNR. I wanted to play him badly. So I tweaked a few things -- he still has the wife that went missing, still has twin daughters, still trans, still Lasombra... but he was Embraced in 1994 instead. He doesn't become as bitter and hateful towards Kindred because he didn't spend thirty or so years as a ghoul, and he had his sisters show up shortly after his Embrace, so he never lost that goofy part of his personality (even if there's very few people who are aware of it).

Given their near-identical appearances, Sullivan is now Jonathan's biological uncle who went missing when Jonathan was very young, almost too young to remember him. The two of them later would meet, towards the end of the 21st century, in Seattle, and Sullivan would attempt to take Jonathan under his wing, but by then Jonathan utterly despised every Kindred he'd ever meet and barely tolerated him. While I haven't decided for certain Jonathan will probably, at some point, be destroyed at Sullivan's hands for Embracing a powerful-ass vampire hunter and siccing him on the vampire populace of Seattle. Even as a Lasombra, given that he was Embraced as a Brujah ghoul, he still has a lot of Brujah traits -- and I don't see Jonathan ever fully toeing the line as a Cainite.

Jonathan might get away alive. Ultimately, he's still got that Brujah in him, and Sullivan doesn't like to physically fight unless he really has to so has few physical skills. But if Prince Cross, his beloved sister's lover, tells him to put him down, then he intends to finish the job. They might end up chasing each other all across the US for decades, who knows... depends if I want Jonathan to live or not I guess, or if I want to keep playing with a story that's nearly a hundred years away and will probably never get to write out (how many VTM fanfics take place in the far future like that?).

UH. ANYWAY. As for Amicia' and Kara's backstories, I'm sure @nightingaletrash will add those on when she can!

#VTM #my OCs #other people's OCs #Jonathan Grey #Sullivan Blackmoore #Amicia de LaCroix #Kara Byrne #nightingaletrash #Alec Cross #World of Future Darkness

[nightingaletrash]

okay so. when did Alec realise that Amicia did in fact love him and was just Like That?

Okay so here's the thing: Alec has better social skills than Amicia and tends to read cues better than her, so he recognises the subtle shifts in her behaviour and aura, even as her surface attitude remains the same. So in his mind, he's the one winning the long game and successfully manipulating the Lasombra Bloodtrader into loving him despite how standoffish she is.

Meanwhile he has no idea that he has played himself.

#robotslenderman #vtm #amicia de lacroix #alec cross #amicia/alec #these idiot blondes are like 'haha yes i am successfully seducing and manipulating them!' #and then faked it so good that it became genuine #victims of fake it til you make it

[nightingaletrash]

Was just going through my tags and realised I've never asked -- how would Amicia react upon realising that *Sullivan* is on friendlyish terms with Sascha Vykos?

At first she was like

Then she was like

And then when he finally had concrete proof that she couldn't deny it was

Basically it's a real rollercoaster of emotions and she still doesn't know how to feel about it. Most days she pretends not to know.

#robotslenderman #vtm #amicia de lacroix #sullivan blackmoore #sascha vykos #shadow fam

[nightingaletrash]

kaiba and amicia in the same room would just be two of the most horribly insufferable people in the world either killing each other or bitching about everyone else together there's no in-between

#nightingale rambles #vtm #amicia de lacroix #yugioh #seto kaiba #amicia would definitely respect the relentless chase for power but she would not respect the children's card game #she disrespects bewd and kaiba instantly snaps #and thats it they're at war

[nightingaletrash]

why did no one tell me that one of the things you can do with oblivion is essentially drag someone through their shadow into the realm where destroyed wraiths go and then into your arms??? Millicent has absolutely done that to her kids when they're being little shits!!

#vtm #vtmnr #millicent rue #sullivan blackmoore #kara byrne #amicia de lacroix #shadow fam

[nightingaletrash]

so me and @robotslenderman went to visit High Gate Cemetery this week, and while we were there, there was a brief discussion about how if Amicia and Sullivan had lived during the Victorian Era, they'd be in the business of body stealing and harvesting corpses for organs and blood in order to traffic them to other Kindred. And now I'm thinking about it some more and I wanna see this AU happen.

I picture Amicia as being an undertaker kind of figure to match up with her running a restaurant in canon, with her running a mortuary prior to the rise of embalming and women being pushed out of the business of caring for the dead. She'd receive the bodies of the recently deceased, either from the grieving families or from Sullivan and other body snatchers, so that she could prepare them for burial and harvest them of their organs and blood (if possible). If the contents of the corpse were unfit for harvest, she'd arrange for them to be sold to doctors and medical schools for dissection, claiming that the bodies were perfectly legal (prisoners, suicide victims, orphans etc). She's the face of the business and the one responsible for the legal side of things.

Even as women started getting pushed out of the mortuary business due to the rise of embalment and insistance that it was 'improper' for women to touch a man's body, Amicia had a way of repelling all attempts made to shut her down. Namely she made sure that her competitors were scared shitless at the mere mention of her, so potential clients figured that she had more nerve than they did in the face of death.

Sullivan would definitely be responsible for the less-legal side of the operation. He'd probably have a medical history that makes him real handy for harvesting, and he definitely taught Amicia how to do it and how to be as discrete as possible, all while procuring the bodies of the dead that had been handled by other mortuaries and funeral houses prior to their burial. He stuck around, helping Amicia get set up and teaching her what she needed to know, then once she was confident in harvesting, and had an efficient set up, he'd venture further afield to acquire less common 'vintages' of bodies to harvest.

They are the backbone of the blood and organ trade of wherever they're set up.

#vtm #shadow fam #the resurrectionists au #sullivan blackmoore #amicia de lacroix #i find it funny that the chaotic low humanity cannibal is great at managing the legal side of things and pretending to be normal #albeit cold and scary when she's angry which is Always #while the human trafficker with principles is just super into doing crimes with no pretense of pretending he's obeying the letter of the la #the principles are making sure that his beloved niece isn't exposed to the illegal crimes that would upset her #anyways kara would be into occultism as usual while evie is still hanging off of her and beckett

[robotslenderman]

When Zain first meets Amicia, Sullivan is absolutely certain that Amicia is going to chew him up and spit him back out, but after dealing with the Wall of Sullivan Zain is completely unphased.

He also appreciates that Amicia is very upfront about trades and not staying in any sort of debt, nor doing anything for free. Thus means none of that "I do something and pretend I'm being nice when in reality I'm going to twist your arm about it later" bullshit.

So when Zain walks away from that first meeting being like "huh, she's a very honest and honourable Cainite! I like her!" Sullivan is like.

like.

"what."

#shadowfam #Zain al-Shahir bin Zakariya #amicia de lacroix #Sullivan Blackmoore #he legit enjoys being around her because she's blunt and upfront #so he doesn't have to worry about playing games or winning her over #all he has to do is literally what she says

[nightingaletrash]

Choice girls + femme nb 😍

Amicia de Lacroix - Lasombra, ex-Courier, Diablerist, Blood Trader

Alex King - Mortal, ROTC Dropout, Vampire Hunter, FBI Special Affairs Consultant

Khalia Lais - Toreador, Artist, Seneschal of Ottawa

Alix Xiphias - Malkavian, Oracle of Athens, Tattoo Enthusiast

#vtm #vtmnr #vtmofb #vtmpok #vtmsots #amicia de lacroix #alex king #khalia lais #alix xiphias #i fucking misgendered alix im so sorry bby 😭 #im sick atm so i blame that

[nightingaletrash]

so what are we gonna do if VTMB2 comes out and it turns out Cross got dusted before Amicia could even meet him <_<

I'll be ignoring it and making them kiss with tongue while my silly lil thinblood is running around and causing chaos :3

#robotslenderman #vtmb2 #alec cross #amicia de lacroix #amicia/alec #i will be mashing my dolls together and paradox cant stop me

[nightingaletrash]

I was talking to @ryttu3k about Millicent and her childer and they said it'd be cool if Amicia was archbishop of Seattle while still seeing Cross and tbh I want to see that AU

Ooh, that's a fun idea. This would need to be an Amicia who wasn't abandoned by Millie and was taught the ins and outs of what goes into being an Archbishop, and the kind of patience and cunning that's required of a successful one. Her going to Seattle and becoming a Blood Trader would be all part of a plan to establish herself in the city before making her move and claiming domain as Archbishop.

So Madam de Lacroix arrives on the scene, becomes powerful and influential fairly quickly, and starts a relationship with the Prince much like usual. Except she's not looking for safety, but information. Who are the power players, what weaknesses can she exploit, what strengths does she need to subvert, etc. It's all part of a carefully calculated plan to cultivate a Sabbat presence beneath the Camarilla's nose before sweeping in and seizing control.

Therefore, the oh moment is a tad inconvenient. Cue the covert meetings and secret continuation of the relationship despite her operating openly as a new Sabbat Archbishop.

#robotslenderman #vtm #amicia de lacroix #alec cross #forbidden romance~

[nightingaletrash]

Amicia would’ve died in Bloodlines because you know she would have ripped that sarcophagus open to munch down on the supposed Antediluvian inside

#vtm #vtmb #amicia de lacroix #she craves that vitae #worse it would have been right after she called her ancestor a clown. hell she probably ate him first for shits and giggles #only to get immediately blown up

[nightingaletrash]

...so my sims 4 save got interesting. I had a teen pregnancy mod for another family in my save because Drama and Storytelling, then forgot about it because haha vampire fam took priority.

And then Amicia accidentally ended up with a teenage pregnancy. So now I'm debating if I wanna add that to her lore and just give her that extra bit of fucked-ness with her backstory.

Like, she just got really, really unlucky while messing around with a lad that she liked and got pregnant despite using protection, and her god-awful mother made her carry to term under the guise of 'learning to take responsibility for the consequences of your actions.' But in reality, she really just wanted to ensure that Amicia provided the de Lacroix's with a future heir because she suspected that Amicia would avoid having children if she could. So she essentially forced her sixteen year old daughter to have a baby for the sake of their family's continuity and managed to pry some child support out of the father's parents too.

The whole ordeal was deeply traumatising for Amicia and her inability to get pregnant as a vampire is a huge bonus for her because thank fucking god she never has to run the risk of that happening again.

Needless to say, if Sullivan and Kara ever hear this story, Lady de Lacroix is getting hunted for sport because how fucking dare you-

#nightingale rambles #vtm #amicia de lacroix #yeah its fucked up but then the fucked up-ness goes a long way to explain why amicia is the way she is #she definitely prefers millicent as a mother over her actual mother #millicent might have brought her into the sabbat but she'd never force her through an unwanted pregnancy

[nightingaletrash]

New York: *on fire and full of monsters*

Sullivan: nope, not going. Bad juju

Amicia: fuck you, I wanna get paid

Sullivan: NO

#vtm #blacklight by night #sullivan blackmoore #amicia de lacroix #they're couriers by this point so you know amicia is just all 'fuck you im not a coward' when it comes to jobs in nyc #amicia is also a 'brujah' at this point because the lasombra don't get to join the camarilla for another eleven years

[nightingaletrash]

Me: POK!Amicia is way less feral and unhinged than actual Amicia :/

POK!Amicia: *stands there laughing as a mugger stabs her in the chest and then feeds on them*

Me: nevermind she's actually out of her goddamn gourd

#vtm #vtmpok #amicia de lacroix #she definitely goes out of her way to let her cruel bastard side out when hunting #corliss said no biting other kindred so amicia takes it all out on mortals shes so nasty

[nightingaletrash]

Name: Anthony Hawthorne

Clan: Lasombra (2100X Bloodline)

Generation: 10th

Sire: Amicia de Lacroix

Feeder Type: Bloodleech

Dwelling: Seattle

Disciplines: Oblivion, Obfuscate, Blood Sorcery, Animalism

--

Anthony is the newest addition to the 2100X Bloodline and second childe of Amicia de Lacroix. As a student at the local university, he'd been part of a group of friends that enjoyed ghost hunting and exploring old abandoned places. Anthony himself was a skeptic, but hoped to find evidence that would change his outlook. However, one night they found themselves set upon by an unknown stalker while exploring Seattle's underground. One by one, the students were picked off and dragged away into the dark until he found himself alone and lost in the concrete maze.

Soon enough, he came face to face with none other than Madame de Lacroix. Perplexed but relieved to see another human face, Anthony asked if she had seen his friends. Instead of answering him, she promptly struck him around the head with a shovel and dragged him off to where she'd left the rest of his friends.

When he stirred, it was in a shallow grave. Mad with hunger, he clawed his way out of the ground only to be beset by a maddening hunger and his former friends, all as crazed as he was. The starved and frenzied Fledglings cut a swathe through each other until only Anthony remained. Only after he had gorged himself on their blood did he regain his lucidity and realise what he had done. He had little time to process it before Madame de Lacroix emerged from the shadows and congratulated him for his success. He had earned the right to live.

Anthony's role in Amicia's operation has yet to be determined. He is an investigator at heart and is handy at combing the books for inconsistencies, but isn't skilled in actual accounting. His combat skills are unrefined, and lacking compared to his sister, and he tends to be far too amiable to operate as a spy.

Nonetheless, Amicia believes he survived through more than dumb luck and that his skills simply need to find their focus.

--

His feeding style comes from his experience with the Embrace. Having fed on his fellow Fledglings, mortal blood is somewhat lacking in comparison. Amicia has succeeded in procuring him a sustainable blood supply through her connections in Seattle. Namely the Baron; he had needed to keep a Kindred imprisoned but alive, and has entrusted their imprisonment to Amicia. Initially she planned to lock them in their own mind, but now allows Anthony to feed on them to keep them weakened instead.

Occasionally he extracts blood from other Kindred as a form of payment for his services rendered, but for now, his sire's prisoner has kept him sated.

--

Anthony inherited Animalism from Amicia, and with it he was able to keep his pet Bloodhound as his companion and partner. He is also more proficient in Oblivion than his sister, Emily, but more prone to glitches than she is. While less severe than that of a typical Lasombra, it has further added to the debate of the pros and cons of the 2100X bloodline.

#vtm #anthony hawthorne #amicia de lacroix #emily knight #2100x bloodline #hes just a lil guy whos coping the best he can #namely by adopting the sullivan method: be affectionate to family and dote on them #difference is hes a friendly weirdo to everyone #meemaw millie took one look at him next to sullivan and said 'oh god theres two of them' #he enjoys his trips with uncle sully tho #much better than brain jail because he gets to go places and do thingd #alec probably has him pegged for sheriff because of his investigation skills #but only if amicia allows it