#amphibia season 3a

[amphibia-ooc]

Amphibia sure likes using red

#amphibia #amphibia meme #amphibia spoilers #amphibia anne #anne boonchuy #amphibia sprig #sprig plantar #amphibia hop pop #amphibia polly #hop pop plantar #amphibia season 3 #hopadiah plantar #amphibia hopadiah #polly plantar #amphibia season 3a #hop pop #amphibia season 3b #amphibia marcy #Marcy wu #amphibia darcy #Darcy wu

[metalinjector95]

Amphibia “Lost” episode roundup

Season 3 episode

#amphibia #sasha waybright #ivy sundew #amphibia season 3a #what could have been #amphibia fanart

[sonofrose]

One weird thing I've seen is that people defend Amphibia S3B in ways they wouldn't for S3A. For instance, saying that a plotline they view as rushed is because the crew "ran out of time",yet the crew knew how many episodes they had, and this implies only 3A should have been subject to more stringent time management instead of lead-up to the series finale. Considering people think 3B had less Disney restrictions, I'd think they would make less excuses for the crew here than 3A, but its vice versa

I...

Ok personally I think the 3B episodes fell together almost like clockwork so I see no need to defend them, but there is the subject of "All In" which quite literally is 4 times longer than the average episode.

The thing is that even if the crew knows how many episodes they have, because they could not use some episodes of 3A due to Disney's restriction and that cut into the overall time of the series.

Going back to "All In" the special lenght episode is more of a sign of "running out of time" than anything of 3A plus theres the fact that some plot threads were introduced and not really explored which people might take as another sign.

But here the thing is that it could well be on porpuse, there is a post here somewhere about how there is nothing wrong about not aswering all the questions, and honestly Amphibia feels like and is the kind of show that likes to leave some questions in the air.

#amphibia #amphibia season 3a #amphibia season 3b #anon ask

[hughjidiot]

Yet Another Amphibia Season 3A Rant Post: The Feds Lack Agency

Yup, gonna do another one of these long-winded rants about Amphibia’s third season. Specifically something that bugged me but that I haven’t really talked about much: Agent X and Jenners. As usual my opinions are mine and mine alone, if you don’t agree with them that’s totally fine, blah blah blah you get it.

Now don’t get me wrong, I liked these characters fine enough. I really enjoyed X’s flamboyance, and it made for great comedic contrast with the stoic Jenners.

My problem lies in the fact that they felt... pointless to the story. They brought nothing new to the table in terms of character archetypes, this one being the generic alien hunters who think the good aliens (which the Plantars... technically are?) are actually evil and planning an invasion. What’s more is because they’re completely separate from the main threat of King Andrias, it feels to me like all the Feds brought to the table was padding out the Earth arc because we had to spend so much time on Earth but for some reason could only make Cloakbot the antagonist for like half those episodes.

Another thing that ticks me off is how easily X and Jenners could have been tied to the main plot. In the real world the FBI keeps a database of missing persons, with priority given to minors. I’ve talked at length before about how one of my main issues with 3A was that no one cared that Sasha and Marcy were still missing, and bringing in federal agents could have been the perfect way to change all of that! They could have had X and Jenners be the ones assigned to the girls’ case, who show up and want answers as to where Sasha and Marcy are, and why the Boonchuys didn’t contact them when Anne returned.

Or here’s an idea: keep X and Jenners as alien hunters, but tie that into the girls’ disappearances by having them suspect the Plantars are aliens that abducted them. Just imagine a scene with X in front of one of those conspiracy boards with pictures connected by string. Most of them are grainy pictures of the Plantars taken from a distance, but then you also have the girls’ missing persons posters on there as well. Sasha and Marcy’s both have notes scribbled on them, speculating what happened to them. Then you’ve got Anne’s poster along with a picture of her and the Plantars together. And her notes are things like: Another victim? A willing accomplice? What does she know?

But nope. All we got are generic alien hunters, something we’ve seen a million times before and that they couldn’t even be bothered to connect to the main plot in some way. Now granted there’s still the finale and it’s entirely possible that X, Jenners and the rest of the Feds could play a supporting role in helping defend the Earth from an actual invasion. But as it stands the Feds, like many elements of season 3A, left me unimpressed and underwhelmed and so frustrated at how differently things could have gone.

#hugh jidiot rambles #amphibia #amphibia season 3A #anne boonchuy #sasha waybright #marcy wu

[finalvortex]

ha ha!

#amphibia #anne boonchuy #text post meme #amphibia season 3a or as i like to call it steven universe future blue

[takabrows]

I hope you feel what I felt when you shattered my soul.

'Cause you were cruel and I'm a fool-

So, please let me go.

#amphibia #sasha waybright #marcy wu #sasharcy #this song lives in my head rent free #season 3a angst

[thekingofwinterblog]

Hi, I read a post of yours arguing that Amphibia needed four seasons rather than three to live up to its full potential.

If it was up to you, how would you structure these hypothetical third and fourth seasons? And what arcs would they contain? Would the third season be entirely focused on Anne and the Plantars on Earth, or would it switch back and forth frequently between Anne and Sasha? Would the third season end with Escape to Amphibia, or at another point?

And how would the fourth season be structured? Would it be entirely set in Amphibia, with multiple episodes dedicated to the girls working out their emotional baggage? I know an episode or two with Sasha and Marcy's parents is pretty much a given for you, but what else would you add?

In regards to the third season, i would not add more episodes focusing on Amphibia as a whole, but i would absolutely add way more episodes where Darcy got to flesh their inhuman, robotic chops in the quest to kill anne, as well as having Anne and the plantars learn about this shadowy overlord of Andrias withouth actually learnign the real identity of said person.

As for what i would change i would keep the storyline up to the death of the cloakbot the same, only with more moments where it was made clear that Anne was supressing some major stuff and trauma, as was originally the plan before disney censors butchered it after being pissy about true colors.

After that though, the season should have been about breaking anne down until she finally was forced to confront Marcy's death and Sadha's uncertain fate head on... Which i would have be in the form of coming face to face with one of the two others parents.

Its also here i would have begun exploring Sasha and Marcy's homelife by having Anne react in shock to their parents far different reaction than hers. Also im just going to say now, the following ia how i would have written Sasha and marcy's parents.

Sasha's dad is the only one who seemingly directly gives a shit about his kid, but not in the desperate way Anne's parents did, more in the sense he's just relieved Sasha is doing fine, and she'll come home or not as she as she will.

That should have been an enormous wakeup call for Anne, who has been thinking about this from the same angle as hers, not really understanding anne and Sasha's households, and through them, not truly understanding either of them.

But still, she seeks out both mrs waybright and the Wu parents, hoping to see some of the parental love missing in mr waybright, only to discover to her horror that it was actually the other way around, because while mr waybright has given up on his relationahip with his daughter, he still cares.

Mrs waybright genuinely does not. At all. She left Sasha behind long ago, and never looked back.

As for mr and mrs wu, we dont need a full breakdown of their relationahip with Marcy during this season, as the revelation they chose to leave the city and marcy, behind, speaks more than any confrontation between them and anne ever could.

Have anne really begin to break down as she psychs herself up to tell them their kid is dead... Only for her to discover that they have moved away... This serving as the point where Anne finally has a breakdown, as she realises she never understood either of her best friends, their lives, and seemingly, mr and mrs wu dont care about marcy being alive or dead at all... which in turn is when it sinks in that Marcy DIED.

After this, i would have the following storyline be about Anne beginning to recover mentally, as she stops running from the truth, and begins to regain her confidence and power in full in large part due to support from her two families, climaxing in the return to Amphibia story, ready to face the world she left behind with eagerness and strength... Only to discover a broken, poisoned land.

Commander anne and all it has to offer(reunion with sasha, the new status quo, anne taking over and failing as leader) all takes place over several episodes.

Honestly i would keep pretty much everything amphibia season 3 had to offer, just expand on it, make it longer, and give Darcy a larger role.

As for the big changes, where i would put them depends a lot upon one question.

That being wheter season 4 has sashanne as the winning ship or not.

Personally i very much think this was the original plan before getting told no by disney, but as i dont actually know that, i will present two scenarios.

If sashanne does happen, then it should happen around the halfway mark of season 4. That way you get to explore the juciness of an actual relationship in the aftermath, but also get to use the single most important cut episode from amphibia for that purpose.

Sasha's origin story.

Having Sasha finally open up in full regarding her backstory, how her family fell to pieces and the way it pretty much destroyed her, is pretty much the perfect final stage before a development.

If sashanne does not happen though, then Sasha's backstory and it's placement should be near the very end of the series, right before the finale, and back to back with another, huge important story, which i would have used as the final episode before the climax regardless.

Namely Marcy's backstory episode, where instead of relegating it to a short scene in the three part finale, have an entire episode relegated to explaining Marcy's life, and because its just a flashback, an episode for us, the audience, you dont need to connect it directly to anyone else, the way Sasha telling Anne her background in full needs to serve as a character defining moment.

As for the finale episode themselves, i dont really have many problems with it, other than episode 3 needing a way bigger budget, and the first part needing to stick to a coherent design scheme for Darcy.

The only real change i'd make, would be if Sashanne actually was a thing, where i'd have played that up, but also changed to context of Her and Marxy's talk at the end, where them drifting apart was due to the mundane fact they went to completely different univeraities, and so spent years apart, before coming back together again. It captures the same realities that sometimes you drift apart due to the mundanities of life, only to come back together again, just withouth the massive and inexplicable questions of why Sasha and anne who ended the period pre timeskip seemingly closer than everz only to immediatly drift apart.

#amphibia #anne boonchuy #sasha waybright #marcy wu #sashanne #meta #season 3a #season 3b #season 3 #season 4 #questions and answers

[ilovetvtoons]

These Amphibia episodes seem to have been deemed the worst by fans.

#amphibia #amphibia fandom #fandom #sprig plantar #anne boonchuy #polly plantar #sadie croaker #ivy sundew #mother of olms #sasha waybright #hop pop plantar #the worst by the fandom #first one doesn't need an explanation #sprivy #they were way too clingy and overdramatic compared to previous episodes #mother of olm's was... interesting #and spider sprig feels so out of place even with lighthearted season 3a earth episodes

[fazar234]

"Season 3A is bad because it doesn't bring up Marcy's death!" Meanwhile in an alternate universe… "Season 3A is bad because it won't stop bringing up Marcy's death!"

#amphibia #amphibia spoilers #amphibia season 3 #marcy wu #i made this after seeing yet another tweet complaining about season 3a's flaws #consider this a callout to the fandom

[pandoratheprocrasticreator]

idk how to word this well but i feel like a lot of media critique is read as too personal to the author? obviously the intentions of the creator is important and the circumstances they made the thing in is important to discuss but i feel like that should be like. context. an explanation of why the story is like that but not a way to shut down further discussion.

like for example a lot of critique of tv shows is rebutted with "well the network cancelled it/forced it to keep going beyond its natural end/threw in a bunch of stuff to fuck up the creator's vision so it's not the writer's fault." and like. who was blaming the writers? yes maybe the network fucking with the creative team made the show turn out bad but that doesn't mean the show isn't still bad! it's just that now there's a conversation about network interference and how that affects the final product.

and i think outside factors that affect the story should be discussed!! i think networks are often unfair to its creatives hence why they're striking now. i think censorship is often limiting and prevents writers from telling the stories they want and (tumblr focuses more on this) having good representation. i think the identities of the creators and their beliefs and abilities have massive implications on a story and i think all of it should be discussed as the context the story was made in. i just don't think we should stop the discussion there. we still need to talk about what did and didn't work in the story itself.

when i say "the plot/rep/format of the story had X problem because it affected the story/audience interpretation of the story in X way" and someone says "well the writer's boss forced them to make the plot/rep/format like that," i think it's important to know as a part of media critique. but if they refuse to discuss my initial statement and just ends the discussion there because the problem wasn't caused by the writer, i don't find that interesting or useful to think about.

the only purpose of saying this and only this is to tell me that no, the creative team isn't at fault for this specific thing. i shouldn't get mad at these people that i will likely never meet whose only relationship i have with them is consuming their work. and like. you shouldn't harass people for writing bad stories regardless but if you need to be told that specific creators aren't to blame for a thing you disliked to stop you from doxxing them then that's one purpose of that.

but for that to be the only discussion point is ignoring the actual story. forgive me for assuming but i feel like most people would want to talk about the actual media when they do critique, not the personal/political drama involved in making the media. this is an online discussion about something published by strangers, not a writing workshop with your friends.

and i think talking about the problems that arise in a story because of outside influences can bring more awareness to those influences! if you say "the publisher told them to not make those two gay" and refuse to elaborate people just think "oh :( well i bet a hypothetical book where those two were gay would have been cool :)" if you say "these two have character arcs that would make more sense in X ways if they were gay but because the publisher told them not to make them gay it falls flat in X ways" people would think "holy shit! the publisher's prioritizing their homophobia over telling a good story! i hope next time they have a book like that they'll just let them be gay!"

pointing out exactly how outside influences hurt a story will show audiences not only how these factors fucked over the creatives career-wise, but also their own enjoyment of the story. most people won't affect the way creative teams of media they like are managed, but in the rare instance that they do, "it makes the story worse and therefore less profitable" is a better talking point than just "don't interfere with the writers because it'll make the writers sad."

basically if i point out a problem with a story and you reply "this problem was caused by X external factor," the next sentence should be "and here's how and why X external factor affected the story in these ways." it's shouldn't be "and you shouldn't blame the writers for it because it was someone else's fault." pointing out that capitalism and bigotry exists should not be the end of the conversation. you need to say something its effects on the story in tangible ways. otherwise the conversation has no value.

and i want to reiterate that i know a lot of limitations studios and publishers place on creators are frustrating to the creators themselves. it must feel horrible to see people be dissatisfied with your work, especially if some of the things they critique wasn't your fault. i cannot stress enough how much i dont think less of a creative team's skill unless i know for a fact that they chose to make something bad without any outside influences, which is incredibly rare. if i criticize something, i am not placing blame on anyone unless i outright say "i blame the writer/studio/publisher for this."

when i talk about my thoughts on a story, it's entirely for me. i'm not holding out hope that hollywood executives will see my opinions and tailor-make something for me so i'll stop complaining. i talk about and criticize media i like because it's fun. it's how i engage with media. i don't know the creators of 99% of the things i enjoy, and they will almost definitely never know me. while it's interesting to learn about the production process of a piece of media, even if i don't know who's "responsible" for a part of a story i don't like, i won't get angry at the creators for that. i don't connect the value of the writer to the value of the story in that way.

#shut up pandora #this is very long and very pretentious #media criticism #i guess #i guess its me criticizing how other people do media criticism #obviously do it in good faith #korra and asami couldnt smooch until the comics bc nickelodeon was homophobic #but the korrasami handhold was still monumental and should be applauded as such #but it wasnt able to have the full effect of the romantic happy ending bc of how subtle they had to make it. due to the homophobia #amphibias season 3a was slammed for not touching on the ramifications of all the traumatic stuff that happened in true colors #and this is because disney was such a prude that they wouldnt allow any deep exploration that mentions the girls getting hurt #but also because the writers massively overestimated how much they could get away with in a tv show of that rating #chalking things up to 'well it wasnt the writers fault so lets just take this subpar thing as it is and dont think about it too hard' #is never productive

[cartoontees]

it only seems like hunter is constantly suffering because the third season got shortened and probably most of his happy fun moments had to get cut... and the suffering parts had to stay since they further his character journey and the plot of the show :-(

#toh spoilers #it seems to me like luz and co were supposed to be in the human realm for all of season 3a a la amphibia #so an entire 10 episodes had to be shortened into one 44-minute episode and.. yeah.. #some of those itty bitty moments in the opening montage might have been entire episodes. its sad #toh #the owl house #tee.post

[amphibia-ooc]

Why do I feel like the frogs are underrated on their own frog show

#amphibia #amphibia meme #amphibia anne #anne boonchuy #amphibia sprig #sprig plantar #amphibia hop pop #amphibia polly #hop pop plantar #amphibia season 3 #hopadiah plantar #polly plantar #amphibia hopadiah #amphibia season 3a #hop pop

[thenightslayers-musings]

Amphibia season 3a ranked part 2

Mr. X 6/10

It's kind of more of the same really, Mr X Isn't bad its just this is how the fbi factors into the plot not the girls being missing for months?

Spigs Birthday 6/10

Not a bad episode but there's something that annoys me about all of these episodes, they ignore Sasha and Marcy to the point where a better episode dies because of it, Anne's actions on sprigs could have shown to be similar to Sasha's on hers but no just ignore that.

Spider-Sprig 4/10

God no, listen show I get that Sprig and the Plantars are Anne's true family but honestly do us a favour and don't write him as obnoxious, again, the Plantars for this have just aren't as fun for the most part. They could have focused on Anne's home life but no we need a Super hero episode because well why not? Robot Otto is the saving factor of this episode

Olivia and Yunan 6/10

Here's the problem with this episode, we knew how it was going to end. Matt plastered that shocking ending on the trailers and spoilt the highlight of the season, and it doesn't help that this happens so late in the season no one gives a shit, because next episode we're back to frog being obnoxious.

Hollywood Hop-Pop 5/10

I'm numb to this now Plantar acts obnoxious, Anne has to deal with it, Mr. X get a nice character moment with the Frogs and Pollywog. Rinse and repeat.

If you give a frog a cookie. 5/10

Rinse and repeat.

Froggly little Christmas 6/10

It's fine for the most part Rebecca sugars song just isn't that good, the Plantars more charming, Anne's plot is okay and the new character offer something other than being plot related, the only down side is that that little tease at the end with Sasha and Marcy's parents. NINE EPISODES AND NOW YOUR ADDRESSING SOMETHING INTRESTING?

Escape to Amphibia 8/10 (it was suppose to be the mid season finale I'm counting it here)

Somehow after half a season of bland we finally have an exciting episode, generally funny, decent action and ultimately we continue the plot, the Plantars are funny, the new characters show personality, it's like if the show actually concentrates on being entertaining it's actually entertaining. And we finally return to Amphibia.

Thank frog we're out of earth let's get back to the show.

#amphibia #anne boonchuy #polly plantar #sprig plantar #hop pop plantar #amphibia. #season 3a #pain

[sonofrose]

Sometimes I feel like if Amphibia S3A did incorporate what fans wanted/complained about, they would complain about that too. Anne having a mental breakdown on screen-> "Anne is being too whiny over TC, she should just get over it like Sasha/Marcy did and focus on finding a way back". Storyboard of Marcy-anime-look-a-like being stabbed on TV with Anne watching-> "Ugh, the show's mocking Anne's PTSD for a cheap gag". Also, why do you think people kept claiming 3A "ignored Anne's trauma"?

Y-yeah...

Admitedly part of the reason both of these hypotetical scenarios and the actual reaction is because "True Colors" was a real tough act to follow.

It effectively changed how we saw the series so wether the show went full steam foward with it or played the suble approach (like it was more likely to do. I've said it ad nauseum Amphibia is a show of subtleties) it would not have felt like enough.

On the trauma thing it is simply because Anne did not bring the events up and the show itself focused on lighter plots.

The thing is that we needed the lighter plots because the events we just came back from were TOO MUCH. As I said "True Colors" changed everything and it weighted heavily on the characters, the story and, unfortunately, the fandom.

#amphibia #anne boonchuy #amphibia season 3a #anon ask

[arcadiii]

y'all ever just think about how sasha initially wasn't ready to forgive marcy because she couldn't understand why marcy would've been driven to desperate measures and maybe having that refusal because she's not ready recognise herself within marcy's actions

like think about it. marcy tries so hard to keep her friends together by keeping the peace, its about playing peacemaker, its in a sense, pulling the hidden strings behind the scene to keep the play going, but its also not admitting to them how she feels about everything

marcy's whole thing is that she doesn't communciate - in a sense, just like the rest of them. she doesn't communicate how she feels, but because she buries those worries and it doesn't seem Obvious because she's flourishing in amphibia, of course sasha wouldn't see it

sasha has a running theme of only wanting to see what she wants. yeah she starts working on it in season 3a and b because of the TC moment, but she's STILL working on it - she's not going to be immediately better, its something she wants to and continues to work towards

we see it with lysil and angwin - she talks about how they deserve a second chance, but at the time, she's been told why they've been banished, but as far as she's aware - she STILL hasn't been told why marcy wouldn't have trusted or talked to them so isn't ready to forgive

so of course, its only when anne spells it out to her that she only really starts to understand, and when darcy blatantly tells her that can they even consider themselves friends - because really... can she? if she hadnt even realised how she'd neglected marcys feelings

and its only then when sasha gets it. because she'd been in the same position in s2 - she'd been lost and alone, far away from the other two and seeing how they both get on so well together and feeling left out, just like marcy will when she eventually moves and what did she do?

sasha tried in the only way she knew how to, to hold onto her friends, clinging on so tight that the friendships were broken within an iron grip

#ough pls its stuff like this which is why i love sasharcy #its the way that sasharcy can be so similar to each other but so different #amphibia #sasharcy #sasha waybright #marcy wu #arcadi rambles #i need some sort of tag for these posts damnit

[flower-boi16]

Thank god Lily Orchard hasn’t gotten her slimy hands on Amphibia aside from that brief bit of slander in one of her videos

I've been thinking about what kind of takes Lily would have on Amphibia if she ever decided to make a big "Amphibia is Garbage and Here's Why" Video...so...just for "fun", let's come up with what "critiques" of Amphibia Lily would have.

Lily would say that Season 1 is the best season of the show due to it focusing on episodic adventures and say that Season 2 is bad due to it being more story-driven, and she would like 3A because it went back to the fun episodic stuff, and dislike 3B because of it going back to the story-driven stuff.

She would go on a whole stupid tangent about "serialization vs episodic shows and how you need to pick one and be both" and how Amphibia suffers from being serialized cuz "serialization & it's tropes bad", and that it should have stayed episodic.

She would demonize Marcy and especially Sasha for their bad actions despite them being complex and well-written characters. She would consider them "evil, bad people" and ignore all nuance to their actions.

She would hate Andrias for the same reasons.

She would favor the plantars more than Sasha and Marcy due to them being apart of the episodic half of Amphibia.

She would fine Anne boring (I dunno what "critiques" she would have for her)

If y'all have more ideas leave them in the replies!

(Though yes, thank god Lily never touched Amphibia because WE ALL KNOW her takes would've been awful)

#lily orchard #amphibia #sasha waybright #marcy wu #anne boonchuy #hop pop plantar #sprig plantar #polly plantar #king andrias