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genderkoolaid · 10 months
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I was JUST debating sending an anon about alloaro stuff lol. i am writing a character who is alloaro, n i'm curious as to how i should go about portraying it respectfully? any pointers? <:} sorry if this a bit too vague of an ask
It is pretty vague but I can give you some pointers regardless! (If you have more specifics in mind, feel free to send another ask).
Alloaros can have a ton of different relationship desires; some people enjoy romantic relationships, some people are entirely non-partnering. But a lot of us really enjoy or want a sexual but non-romantic relationship, which tend to be really stigmatized! "Friends-with-benefits" tend to be seen as shallow, casual, and short-term, and/or will inevitably end up with romantic attraction. So if it would fit the character & story, I would be really cool to see a character who has a sexual non-romantic relationship! That could look a ton of different ways- anywhere from "literally married & living together" to "good friends who have sex and live independently."
Also going off ^, a lot of aros tend to be on the non-monogamous side; we tend to have a lot in common with polyam allos (like perspectives on jealousy & relationship anarchy). So you could have your character have multiple different partnerships! And some of those may be sexual while others aren't. I know for me, I consider my platonic relationships to be on the "same level" as sexual ones, so I would consider a very close friend to be equally as important as a very close sexual partner, and I might call both a "partnership" (especially if our lives are very intertwined). Looking into queerplatonic partnerships might give you some ideas here.
Some alloaros do enjoy sleeping around/casual sex. However, if your character engages in that, you should make sure they are a three-dimensional character who clearly has other interests and other personality traits, and is not defined by being hypersexual.
Personally, I would be very uncomfortable with an alloaro character whose presented as a heartbreaker, someone who leads people on. Same for a character who is presented as being afraid of commitment or unwilling to commit, especially if they end up "fixed" by a relationship (even a non-romantic one). There is a theme of alloro partners being depicted as poor victims of cold-hearted sluts who just wanted them for their body, led on by the promise of "real love," and IRL there is a trend of alloros getting angry with their alloaro sexual partners for not being romantic, even when they explicitly said they did not want romance. And there is also a stereotype that aromantics are just commitment-phobic and/or traumatized, and our aromanticism is a sign that we are broken and need fixing. Depictions of alloaros as cruel/mean or broken tend to be very arophobic. This doesn't mean alloaros always have to be perfectly sane and kind- I myself have a character whose essentially alloaro, is a slut and isn't the best person- but I'm not sure I would want to see that from an alloro author, and regardless it needs to be done very carefully. If your character does fall into these but you want to keep these elements, get a sensitivity reader to give you advice on how to keep them well-rounded. But in general don't make your villain/asshole character the only aro/alloaro.
Also: diverse alloaro characters would be awesome! There basically aren't any right now so anything you write will be nice, but alloaros come in all sizes, genders, orientations, ethnicities, bodies, etc!
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pistachiopie · 5 months
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ignore my icon for a moment (/j) but uh. i'm convinced romantic feelings aren't real. literally how are you supposed to know that they're there? like there are so many other explanations for the closeness you feel what makes you label it as romantic?? genuine question alloro moots help me out here
what if my platonic crushes are real romantic crushes and i'm just scared of labels or something lol. like what if that is exactly what romantic feelings are but i've just been denying it? how do you know mannnn how do you knowwwww (excluding sexual attraction. i think sexual attraction is straightforward but romantic feelings sound made up)
"you're just supposed to Know" -> unhelpful "you want to hold there hand and stuff" -> okay fair but you can do that without it? "you want to spend more time with them" -> if i could hang out with my friends every single second of my life i would. with all of them
o(-( someone convince me romance is real so i can confidently identify as aro lol
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aro-but-not-ace · 2 years
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follow up question… is it normal for alloromantics to never get crushes on fiction or irl and only have had like 1 or 2 throughout their whole life and be 17/18 or is that more of an aro thing? do allos get crushes more?? tbh. I see allos just “start dating” people they just met or consider their relationship romantic when just starting to talk to someone and I couldn’t do that bc I don’t get feelings like that. is that how is supposed to go like do allos not always get a strong friendship with them before anything romantic happens?… they just jump right into romance? They get full romantic crushes on celebrities and fictional characters?? they do blind dating too and I could never.. when people had crushes on me I felt panic and discomfort at reciprocating.. it’s taken me so long to get more comfortable being romantic with my partner (sometimes it feels better when I’m doing it platonic with a friend and people know it’s not actually romantic but it is fun to pretend) and I do love doing it w my partner and want to cuddle and hug and stuff but it’s still hard sometimes to do stuff like kissing and I’m scared to have people see us be romantic but maybe it’s just social anxiety. sometimes I don’t feel much towards it either and I question my romantic feelings all the time (but I also have relationship ocd so lol).. I guess looking back on everything I haven’t been too much interested in a romantic partner compared to my friends constantly getting partners and crushes.. especially on people they never even talk to. but since I love romance in media and I do love my partner romantically I feel like I can’t be aro. idk my brain feels confused bc I’m trying to think of what else bejng aro feels like and how it could it apply to me before I go saying I am
First of all, I wanted to apologize for not seeing this until AFTER I posted the first ask… my wifi has been spotty and went out after I started replying, I assume 😅
This sounds like you’re aro (or on the spectrum). That’s only based on my experience and definition of the labels, so don’t take that as gospel or anything.
I got my first actual crush when I was 17, and then I realized that all my “crushes” in the past were, indeed, fake. Though here’s a fun, ironic story: during high school, my entire friend group except for one person was arospec—but nearly all of us had no clue yet.
Therefore, whenever I asked how they felt romantic attraction, it was the same as me, so I thought I was alloro. But then I asked actual alloro people later, and they were like “no yeah, I’ve felt that ‘love at first sight’ feeling, it’s real,” and I… it just blew my mind.
I also realized I was romance repulsed at the time, and that it wasn’t a “normal” alloro experience. I had a boyfriend, and he kissed me on the cheek—it was without my consent, which was bad enough, but I felt sick the entire day. I literally wanted to curl up and never talk with him again, because I felt bad that I felt genuinely nauseous after he kissed me. It wasn’t like “oh, that was weird”—it was genuine repulsion.
After I broke up with him (I was ~15 or 16), I had no interest in dating someone else. Everyone kept asking, “when are you going to get into another relationship? Haven’t you thought of dating again?” And the answer was “no, why do you keep asking? I just want to learn about biology. We’re in biology class.”
So, my experiences are similar to yours, I think. I also have social anxiety, but I feel as if the social anxiety would rather stop someone from pursuing the attraction, rather than feeling it. When I had a crush on that one person, I still had the attraction, but I felt extremely anxious to come out and say it. And not in a normal anxious way. But that’s a story for another time.
I hope this helped and provided some bit of clarification!!
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aro-culture-is · 4 years
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aro culture is growing up being really uncomfortable whenever people have a crush on you but also not knowing how to say no to the relationship because you're taught that if you don't reciprocate those feelings you're evil
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cornflowercanine · 3 years
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man ik genuine aspec convers8ion and discussion a8t our experiences and attraction is already super wiped out and sparse 8ut when we get 8ack into it something i reaaaaally wanna s33 ppl talk a8t is the overlap of experiences w aspecness and les8ianism im not even gonna 8ring up allo les8ians who push the idea that aspecness = comp het and hurts “””~Real~””” les8ians 8ut pressuring someone into thinking they can/should/do experience attraction that they dont, and that if they dont experience that attraction they’ll go nowhere in life and is hurting themselves, whether its a het person to a gay person, or a nonles8ian to a les8ian, or an allo person to an (questioning) aspec person, even if it’s in the name of ‘protecting’ “””””””real lg8ts”””””””, is inherently malicious and harmful 8ut what i mean is like.... when i was a kid/with my ex 8f, i didnt even have a clue that i could 8e experiencing romantic attraction differently 8ecause that’s how ALL “attraction” felt to me in the first place, where id pick a random person/character and go ‘omg i like them in this way’ to convince other ppl i was het/allo and/or for the status of ‘h33h33 i have a crush!!’. it was comp het and trying to convince myself i was allo overlapping, not cancelling eachother out, and i think little things like that are important to discuss for questioning aspec les8ians
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oflgtfol · 4 years
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listen i love soulmate aus but also it is fucked up how some of yall fully lean into the “in the event that a character doesnt have a soulmate, they are fully 100% ostracized from society and its seen as something fucked up about the character, that they’re broken/unloveable/evil/unworthy/etc, but also then the twist at the end is that they DO have a soulmate :D and so the happy ending is that this one character was NOT broken or otherwise fucked up! the fact that the ostracization of people without soulmates exists is never unpacked or resolved and its just brushed under the rug”
like uhm. OKAY LMAO
#like its one thing for the charscter to be worried abt not having a soulmate...#and its another thing to literally outright have them be actually ostracized by society for it....#and then like. never actually discuss how fucked up that is LIKE UHM LMFAO????#like i know im aromantic but come on... you really dont see anything wrong with this?? even for alloros??#brot posts#i mean. soulmate aus are a guilty pleasure of mine#im like. id say ‘morally opposed’ but that serms kinda extreme#but like. yeah on a conscious level i am opposed to them#but got damn if i dont go a lil wild for a neat soulmate fic ...#like the only ones i have NO problems with are#1. soulmates are not necessarily romantic. they cover a variery of relationships#2. people can have a wide range of soulmates. not just one#people can have several soulmates or none at all#3. the ppl with Zero soulmates are not pitied or otherwise ostracized#and also 4. the romantic soulmates are not prioritized over platonic / familial soulmates#and not necessarily a requirement but also lol 5. there is no inhersnt distinction between soulmate types#like u dont have a name on ur wrist and inhersntly know if theyre destined to be platonic or romantic#(the only exception wkth that would be familial soulmates lol. like u know ur relationship with that person.)#but in terms of strangers its not like. u know right off the bat that theyd be platonic or romantic#I LIKE THAT bc 1. nuance and also 2. helps prevent the prioritization of romantic soulmates#SO ANY SOILMATE STORY THAT HITS 1-4 is the only kind of soulmate story that i have like#no. Ethical ? qualms with. they do not cross My Principles ...#everything else that falls short is just a guilty pleasure of mine ...#but then u got the real fucked up ones that go SO hard in the wrong way and its like. ok i cant even enjoy this as a guitly pleasure LOL#like bruh why is this character being harassed and assaulted for not having a soulmate LMFAOOOO
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idiealotdontworry · 3 years
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to close out aro week, i really wanna stress to all my alloro mutuals specially that i see you not giving a shit about aro people, even though you care about literally every other queer identity under the sun (including other aspec identities lol). i see how you ignored aro week, i see how you ignore aro people. we weren't exactly quiet abt it this year either, i sure as fuck wasn't, so if you "weren't aware" it's because ur not paying attention + the "i support aros" in ur bio is probably nothing but performative bullshit.
im not saying you should've rb every single aro week post or that you should care about aros more than anyone else, obviously. if you didn't rb any aro week posts that doesn't like, inherently make you an arophobe, but it DOES make you suspect to me, especially if all you've been posting about all week was other lgbtq stuff that just..."conveniently" didn't mention aros or aro week.
you don't have to always be posting about aros to "prove" your support or allyship. but you should be aware. your support should be in more than words. if you support us on paper but make 0 effort to change your behavior and worldview to be inclusive of and safe for aromantic people, then you do not support aros, no matter how many times you insist that you "consider aros lgbtq". if you don't at least occasionally show somewhere OTHER than ur bio/abt/carrd/whatever that you give a shit about aros, specifically if you are a blog that focuses heavily on lgbtq issues or pride, then there's a 99% chance that you don't actually care about us or understand us and just say you do so people don't mark you as an aphobe.
also, if you're gonna get mad at me for pointing this out bc it makes you feel butthurt, save it. take that energy and use it to be better to aro people. if this isn't you, then it isn't you. but if the shoe fits.... then maybe you should examine that. that's all i'm saying.
and hey. if your excuse is that you just never see aro stuff..... maybe you should be following more aros + letting more aros into your life. just a thought
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Okay I saw your post about realizing you were aro/ace and oh my gosh literally all of those things apply to me 0_o I’ve identifies as demisexual for a while but I’m starting to think I might be not be alloromantic either. Thank you for sharing your experience!
You’re welcome! I’m so glad I helped ^//////^
My personal opinion is realising you’re aromantic is harder than realising you’re asexual because sex is an identifiable act and easier to talk about, but romance is more a collection of disconnected behaviours that are so heavily context-dependant that pinning down whether or not you like them is hard. It took a year and a half after I figured out I was ace to figure out I was aro too o_o
A few things that helped me figure out I’m aro that I forgot to include in the last post:
I realised I thought of all the guys I had dated the exact same way I thought of my friends, and I treated them the same way...except I’d kiss my boyfriends. But I didn’t really like kissing, so what functional difference was there between my boyfriends and my friends?
I was just on the verge of figuring out I was asexual, but I definitely knew sex wasn’t for me. I decided that I’d be okay with whatever guy I married having a sexual relationship with someone else. After a time I decided I didn’t mind if they had a romantic relationship with that person, too, because I was rapidly figuring out I wasn’t interested in romantic behaviours either. Which ended up  being...well, I’m not interested in romantic behaviours, or sexual behaviours, and whoever I marry would be fully committed to someone else anyway while I’d basically just be a friend who was living with them, so why should I bother getting married to them instead of just letting them marry the person they were committed to?
Lastly, I doubted myself a LOT when trying to figure out if I was aro because I’d had crushes before. Then I learned about squishes, which are platonic crushes! I noticed that all my “crushes” went away once I became friends with a person. Or if that squish was inconvenient...I could just turn it off, like a light switch. Apparently alloro people can’t just turn off attraction, in which case a lot of things about alloros make sense lol
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hey so remember like last year when i was re-reading misadventures and fixing typos? (well, i say that, but it was just an excuse to re-read it and write some absolutely absurd commentary on it...) i found old notes in my phone from january with even more so guess i may as well post it because people seemed to find it funny at the time, it’s basically just The Misadventures of Aish Realizing Things though
[yeah so here’s the original notes i’m not even gonna change anything even though lots of Lore has happened in the show and we Know things now, you just get to see what january aish typed]
ok well let’s go then chapters 31-35 oh god
oh yeah the ML Blackout! I remember that
hm it’s occurring to me maaaaaybe I should post a bit of a warning on this chapter. like “yes this starts off stupid and cracky and fluffy but takes a complete 180 in the middle and you will end up sobbing.”
or maybe I should put that as a disclaimer on the whole fic cause it’s one hell of a ride
THE AROACE SCIENCE JOURNAL YESSSSSSS THAT COMES BACK LATER
yeah the reason why the early parts of this chapter are very lighthearted is honestly because the fic was getting a bit too bleak, I needed something cheerful, so paper planes and arm wrestles it was
wait... isn’t this just that scene from Anansi??? where like Nora challenges Nino to an arm wrestle but then he wins because Someone Else Nearby Did A Thing
also this is Peak characterization, damn Aish, you rly outdone yourself, congration
any time I drop the word “inkling” into a fic it is always 100% a splatoon reference
MAX WOW TONE DOWN THE GAY
heh... BI-ceps...
oh my godddd Max trying to play off his ogling as “ah yes I am scientifically studying Kim’s arm muscles ofc, it’s science I swear” is SO frickin funny I’m already losing it
Alix: “scientifically speaking I’m hot therefore you have to lose this arm wrestle” hshdhdghshskkjkdhshs
^literally the kind of nonsense every single teen I know spouts irl
including me when I was a teen, I just said things
(I still just say things)
you can’t bring up the sports bra thing goddammit, I agree it’s cheating because it has the power to one-hit kill anyone in the vicinity
I love how Max thinks his crush on Kim is “under control” while like. visibly swooning over him
OH MY GOD THE PILLOWS SHHDJDHDHDHSKHS
OKAY SO LIKE I was supposed to put the thing about Kim snogging a pillow in chapter 20 but I forgot or something and then I just had to get it in somehow, oh it kills me dead just thinking about it, I’m dying, I’m dead
and the fact that he admits to it as well, holy moly
KIM
K I M
THAT’S GAY
OH WOW
this is the moment when Alix’s Kimax shipper heart was suddenly feeling validated like “omg wait Kim DOES like Max??? like for real??????”
awwwww Kim, Max doesn’t have those kind of superpowers, you just have a crush on him that’s all <3
THE SKATEBOARDING SNEK!!!!!!!!!!!!
“What the heck is that?” “My snake.” DYINGGGG
Kim trying to figure out if the snake is sitting or standing is a whole mood
ohhhhhhhh my gosh poor Alix trying so damn hard to subtly ask Kim if he likes Max and Kim’s just. so DUMB he doesn’t even get it no matter how obvious she is
she’s even trying to pull out those stupid amatonormative “so is he MORE than a friend???” questions just to get this idiot to figure it out because she knows allo-romos are Like That and he still doesn’t get it,,
[future aish says: the word is alloro, past aish. it’s alloro]
AND SO NOW SHE ASSUMES THEY’RE NOT INTO EACH OTHER BECAUSE SHE THINKS EVEN KIM CAN’T BE THAT STUPID
YOU UNDERESTIMATE HIS STUPIDITY
oh no... oh NO.... the letter.... here we go....
btw yes Gabriel had Kim’s grandad assassinated, it was indeed his doing
...isn’t this lowkey the plot of The Lion King?
or Long Live The Queen
hmmm let’s just say in the sequel poor Kim really will have to deal with the stresses of ruling a country >:D
NO MY POOR SON HAVING A BREAKDOWN, I WANT TO HUG HIM
(also can I just say like... this chapter is actually well-written for the most part? I’m actually kinda impressed)
unfortunately I know the feeling of wanting, needing to return home, but it fills you with dread... *hugs Kim forever*
Kim crying all over Max both hurts me and sort of heals me because Max is so sweet and comforting about it ohhh my heeeaaart
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
THIS IS LOWKEY A LOVE CONFESSION I SWEAR, IT’S SO CUTE
chapter 32 being called “Un chat noir” is kinda dumb af but also it just so happened that I accidentally had the chapter called “Coccinelle” be chapter 64, aka exactly double of 32, so that was kinda neat
Plagggggg!!!!!!!!!!
and Wayhem lol, I think I’ve already mentioned how originally this noble was just some random irrelevant unnamed OC until I decided way later it’s gay stalker fanboy
oh yeah that’s how the nobility recognize the royalty, I forgot lol
(also nobles from countries with widespread newspress or tv will recognize them from news reports and stuff I guess)
the fact that Plagg just hates Wayhem is funny to me for some reason
MISADVENTURES
HOLY SHIT I ACTUALLY THREW IN THE ACTUAL WORD
except it was in reference to Adrien... let’s just say that The Misadventures of Imperial Prince Adrien may or may not make an appearance in the sequel >:D
...the Adrienette is literally just in this fic so that people would read it, ngl
hhhhhhhhhhhh okay it’s true Alix is an aro idiot who doesn’t know anything about romance but for once she’s RIGHT, Kim IS in love with Max, but she assumes she’s wrong hshgshdjhdnsnsh
oh my god noooo timeline twin go away and stop giving me nightmares
I still love how they hate each other, that’s some top-notch self-hatred right there and I need to get on their level
[future aish note: no past self!! be nice to yourself!! you are a cool bean!! own it!!]
YOU FOOL... EVERY CLASSMATE WOULD TAKE A SWORD TO THE HAND FOR ALIX, WHY WOULDN’T THEY
ỳïķèš,,,
honestly I probably should stop being lazy and actually go back to like idk chapter 8 and put in an actual monopoly game (it had to have been before the oracle sessions in ch10 at least)
fun fact!! I have indeed very nearly had a fist fight over the last dark blue card in a monopoly game!! also I blatantly cheated, and the main opponent locked someone else (an 8 year old btw) in a cupboard... it was Wild(TM)
me and my irl friend actually came up with the butterfly thing when we were at the cinema once, she made up this random angry gardener OC who stepped on a butterfly after being fired or something lol
I mentioned Rose liking unicorns!!!! before Captain Hardrock!!!!!!!
shdhdhkshs Alix is such a moody emo brat in this fic I adore it
“The only real difference between you and me is one dead butterfly.” goddammit that’s the creepiest fucking thing, I’m genuinely shaking
technically it’s a butterfly’s fault for ALL the timelines which means that we’re all one butterfly away from death at any moment
cheerful stuff
no, no, you’re not trying to block it out on purpose... I’M trying to block it out on purpose bc I’m highkey shamelessly projecting
god I wish my timeline twin would manifest in the astral plane and punch me in the arm too
“Count yourself lucky you’re not a pillow, idiot.” in-context this is contender for Most Cursed Line I Have Ever Written In My Life
and yes Alix was about to straight-up swear
Mylène rollerskating is extremely blessed and good
pfffffffff Max you coward, I stand on swivel chairs all the time
*me, chanting at the spider in my room* KIMAX! KIMAX! KIMAX!
Kim literally making every excuse to not put Max down is amazing honestly
Kim and Max’s origins story is sooooooooooo cute wtf
THIS IS SO BLESSED OH MY HEART
HE’S JUST STANDING THERE CUDDLING HIM I’M
DECEASED
I,,,, swear to god,,,,,,,
so like. I know it’s now canon in the show that Kim really is as oblivious to his feelings as I wrote him in this. but MY GOD. IT’S FRIGGIN PAINFUL
KIM YOU ARE IN LOVE WITH MAX, FULL HOMO, THAT’S WHY YOU’RE FEELING LIKE THIS, IT’S NOT THAT COMPLICATED DAMMIT
oh yeah I wrote the kimax bits rly early and my old url was @queenkubdel haha
aight now a no-kimax chapter, but at least it’s a goodun
there’s that catradora-esque weather girls frenemyship again
Kim having a full-on breakdown when he finds out Alix’s hair isn’t really pink is actually really blessed, no lemme explain
so this universe has magic, right?? so he thinks to himself that the reason his friend has pink hair is because she must be some sort of anime protagonist or Really Important and Cool or something, and it never even occurred to him to doubt her
in other words he’s betrayed because he WANTED HIS FRIEND TO BE A COOL SHONEN HERO
which is both hilarious AND very sweet
...oh wait I’ve scrolled down and it turns out I literally explained all that in the fic itself hhdgjdvzjdjhs
and yeah honestly I can’t blame poor Kim for taking it so badly, he’s still reeling from his grandfather’s assassination so it’s natural his emotions are not exactly Regulated atm
actually when are his emotions ever regulated
1703-1899 hm... might change that since the fic takes place in 1957-1960 so even though it’s a commissioned history of the empire it was before Gabriel was even born so like why would he even care lmao
“Great Western Ocean” so pretentious, just say the Atlantic omg
I’ve been playing way too much civ because the first thing that came to mind was that everyone’s denounced Agreste due to the high warmongering penalties of the industrial/modern eras
Chloé and Kim is one hell of a brotp okay I still firmly believe that
also Chloé still loves her rococo fashion, she’s just toned it down enough that she can fit through doors and it’s not quite as “in your face” towards commoners
listen I know in the show Kim still liked Chloé for a while after Dark Cupid but in this he got over her quicker because his crush on her wasn’t as deep in the first place
Kim literally tells Chloé he gave the brooch to Max and yet STILL doesn’t realize he likes him!!! KIM!!!!!!!!!!
Chlodemption arc yesssssssss
also she’s a lesbeean
(ye Pollen will be in the sequel don’t you worry)
god I’m so proud of her <3
it feels believable too, so I’m proud of myself!! (I’m trying to be nice to myself before next chapter where I will no doubt roast myself so badly I’ll never recover)
outdated laws about marriage... jeez was that cursed foreshadowing or what
YES IT’S IVAN, I LOVE THIS BOY, HE’S SO GRUMPY AND ANGRY ALL THE TIME AND HE HATES KIM
...actually wait this is sibling culture
I literally speak like this to my brother and he’s my best friend so in conclusion Ivan thinks of Kim as an annoying brother
Jalil why are you a historian. just go be a psychologist and stop your sister accidentally hecking up the country
omg the Antarctica thing, I’m just imagining Jalil in the freezing cold with a massive coat on and getting chased by penguins
I love how the timeline twin’s plan was “escape school, force Adrien to get a venomous pet, then abandon him immediately in the middle of nowhere” and later on it turns out she skipped step two and just ditched him lmaoooooo
being so ace that your brain goes straight to “death and murder” before anything else is the biggest mood, I speak from experience
Jalil knows... he had that conversation with Kim in chapter 20... he Knows
“a bit unsupportive” um that is an extreme understatement good grief he was more savage than ME
RISE OF THE KIMAX SHIPPERS
oh don’t worry the venom death still haunts me too
chapter I Hate You... “A rather rotten winter party” well it should have been named A RATHER ROTTEN CHAPTER DO YOU KNOW HOW IMPOSSIBLE THIS ONE WAS TO WRITE OMG I HATE WRITING MYSELF INTO CORNERS
you see I had to have a motive for the timeline twin to explain things properly so that I could put in a really really dumb pun later but that meant I had to unfortunately suffer many allergic reactions again
[future aish note: forgot to mention, i also needed a motive for kim to stop eating chocolate forever, so i had to Curse this chapter as a sacrifice in order to save his life later on]
alright, alright, here we go, I’ll stop procrastinating and just get this over with
oh yeah it’s chapters like these that the fic’s rated T lol
the Adrikim friendship is indeed important... for later... like, plot-relevant levels of important... life-saving levels...
“some event” is the Peace Ball actually and I can’t wait because that chapter’s actually a good one
KIM BRAGGING ABOUT KISSING ADRIEN LAST YEAR IS SO FUCKING FUNNY OH MY GOD I’M LOSING MY MIND???
like last year he was LITERALLY LIKE “oh boo hoo I cannot tell anyone about this because Adrien is Ã Bøyê” and now he’s just like “yeah I kissed a hot boy and what about it???”
to be fair he is on an extreme sugar rush from all the chocolate he ate, which will... be a plot point in just a moment...
PILLOW GIRLFRIEND
I’m the amused nobles, they are me
oh my god Kim we get it you want to kiss someone (Max) and you don’t want to outright say it
holy shit do any of these kids ever think before they speak??? not to sound like the timeline twin or anything but alix... you could have avoided this if you’d bothered to use your one (1) brain cell
[future aish note: bold of me to assume that alix has a brain cell]
Kim wants to now fight his PARALLEL SELF oh my god, get on my level Kim, I want to fight my actual self like right now so there
stfu all of you, this is poisoning my liver
Max is the biggest mood and at least mildly sensible thank god, but he really shouldn’t have left those two alone for even a second
I AGREE PLATONIC LOVE IS UNDERRATED
the chair... the fucking c h a i r... I’m already lying down but I need to lie down harder just to process the absurdity of this
(I think I was gonna have Alix fall off the chair just because that’s hilarious but I forgot)
look I can’t take heartrate seriously but if you ever write it then you are legally required to put in kissing contests or you’re doing it wrong
fudgin Adrienette kiss offscreen and irrelevant
DJWIFI!!! AND ACTUAL PROPER DJWIFI!!!! I was sick of seeing it treated as some kind of pair-the-spares beta couple so I flipped the script and had them literally call out that trope while treating Adrienette as irrelevant instead, which is also why the sequel will be extremely djwifi-centric
“super swanky bae” please stop misusing commoner slang I’m begging you
THERE’S THE PLOT POINT I WAS TALKING ABOUT
Theo was right here, he witnessed with his own eyes how much chocolate Kim ate, so he knows for a fact that if you give Kim chocolate he will scarf it down without a second thought... so hypothetically if one sent him poisoned chocolates... dyou see where I’m going with this...
oh and Theo still has like every job btw
Alya!!!! no!!!!! hire him again!!!!!!!! then he won’t send the chocolates!!!!!!!!!! aaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
there goes me hinting how alyadrininette is the ultimate ot4 again
...do I really wanna scroll down and keep going? no I don’t but I guess I gotta, and relive every one of my most embarrassing school sleepovers in the process
full offence to everyone bothering to read this but kissing sounds gross, actually
(for the record it was probably like... 10 seconds or something idk it was Not Long At All)
“probably not more than 5 minutes” omg I just said it was 10 seconds??? hmmm m okay like 20 seconds maaaybe, Kim just has no sense of time perception
neither do I based on my microwaving skills
SHIT THIS IS LITERALLY A SCHOOL SLEEPOVER
INNOCENT DUMBASS AROACE ASKING “what does that mean? what’s this? what’s that? it’s okay you can tell me :-)”
omg I forgot the snake was there ahshdhdkshfs I’m the snake, probably wants to launch itself out of the window so big mood
most of the fic so far had Alix being really aro so I was like damn... gotta make her really ace too
(if I ever bother writing the Kimdine AU then you actually get an aro character who isn’t ace, because we need more of them, but I won’t say who) (okay fine it’s Luka)
I tend not to be too British in my writing so as not to give the Americans heart attacks whenever they see someone referring to their mother as “mum” etc, but like... sometimes you just gotta throw in the word “snogging”
(I’m typing this out on my phone rn and it has exactly 69% battery, I hate this and also hate that I felt the need to mention that)
THE HOCKEY THING MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN BASED OFF A REAL LIFE THING. *SWEATS NERVOUSLY*
honestly I was soooooo tempted to actually write The Talk bit, it would have been the funniest thing ever, but I was also 99% sure I would have to change the rating to M (despite it not even remotely being smut lol, just a regular biology lesson) and there was no way I was doing that, pretty sure I pushed the T rating at some points as it is
[future aish: god i am still so tempted to write it. man, i’m tempted. it would be the funniest thing. but no... i have sworn not to write anything above a T rating so guess i won’t.]
YEAH THE THROWING UP THING TOO WAS DEFINITELY NOT BASED ON REAL LIFE OR ANYTHING *MORE NERVOUS SWEATING*
(it genuinely wasn’t a flowerpot though. it’s my life’s goal to throw up in a flowerpot and I still haven’t achieved it.)
all of this is an Ace Mood(TM)
also I love how elaborately I’ve worded this, like yeah idiot royal teenagers are too royal and posh to ever bother just saying the word “sex” like a normal person
to any 17 year old aces: you aren’t too young to know, I told myself that aggressively when I was 17 but now I’m 22 and I’m still just as ace as I always was sooooo yeah
I also hope I can wake up tomorrow and forget I read this trash
well tbh... it’s not total trash... it highkey reminds me of my school days, like, maybe that was subconscious or something... god who even knows
jeez if timeline twin slapped me in the face I’d just keel over and die from sheer terror, other than that that’s HILARIOUS
timeline twin: “YOU HAVE ONE (1) BRAIN CELL NOW P L E A S E CONSIDER USING IT”
fuckeninf hell listen,,, so when I was writing this chapter I didn’t know I was aro... I mean, I was kinda questioning it?? but all I knew was I was ace, and that me not knowing that as a teenager almost totally screwed me over because like
to be normal or to feel normal there’s things you do or say that you don’t want, and things you know would happen or whether you want something or not you’ll take it because you think you’re expected to, because otherwise you’ll have to confront yourself with the fact that something is wrong with you and you don’t know what or why or how to fix it
and being aro on top of that is misunderstanding how to navigate close friendships because of this fundamental fear that if you want to be close with someone then friendship can’t suffice, that how much you care about them doesn’t matter
and things I did or almost did, or had the chance to do and only stopped because (awfully enough) crippling anxiety which ironically saved me (let’s just say the dude turned out to be a creep)... yeah basically this is all a callback to that aroace teenager feel where you can’t help not being true to yourself because you don’t want to, because you don’t know what’s wrong or right, only what’s “normal” and the ache of knowing that you’re not, no matter how much you try
and I didn’t know I was aro while writing this but in hindsight it’s easy to see how that played into it too, and writing this definitely played a part in me realizing I’m aro and was somehow trying to work through some very pent-up feelings about friendship and closeness with people, as well as pent-up feelings about being ace and how that tied into everything too
...in short, do not phuck the pharaoh or you will get HOUSE ARRESTED and DIE
(jk jk she’ll just be awkward around you forever lol, and then SHE’LL get house arrested and die, because you’re not commoners so your actions actually have consequences you dumb idiots)
this entire thing is just a whole mood and lowkey my teenage years holy fuck holy fuck I hate that I’m only just realizing how bloody hard I was projecting
I literally read a post the other day about how unrequited love is only ever usually explored from the perspective of the person who’s in love, whereas aros are usually on the receiving end of it and it’s a tragedy in its own right that you might do things that wind up driving you apart because you can’t bring yourself to love them back but you can’t tell them because of the fear that it’ll push them away... and I gotta say, I totally nailed it 💪
...you know what I’ve changed my mind, chapter 34 is good actually, and now I need to make a time machine and go and hug my 17 year old self for living this, and then hug my 20 year old self for writing this, I’m sorry I was mean to this chapter it’s very relatable and I shouldn’t keep beating myself up over it
thinking makes me miserable too!! that’s why it’s optimistic nihilism only lads
impulse control, hmmm... someone who’s good for him, hmmmmmm... it’s almost like someone like that is right there and exists and is already in love with him 😏
so apparently timeline twin’s idea of “fixing her life” is burning all her bridges and then hecking off to the Kazakh wilderness for over a year
did Alix just... ask the snake if it’s aroace too???
I mean it definitely is, but...
UGH SNAKES DON’T BLINK, I’M STILL SO ANGRY ABOUT THIS
chapter 35, thank god, the title “Finally!” is very apt
(because I can finally change the music from Death Valley to something else lol)
oh poor Max, his heart goes on a real rollercoaster these few chapters doesn’t it? it’s okay buddy, in like 10 chapters you’ll get your man...
NO BUT SHE H A S FIGURED IT OUT!!! SORT OF!!!
I just misread “despite” as “despacito”, I’m going to bed and continuing this tomorrow dammit
alright I am now funky refreshed and ready to roll, let’s get this kimax party started
Max is angsting internally like “no one’s realized I like Kim :( well except Juleka but she’s a lesbian so she doesn’t count” ashgdjsghskk that mlm/wlw solidarity is holding out I see
YES ALIX YOU DO NEED TO TALK TO NATH MORE, THAT’S YOUR FREAKING BEST BUD IN THE SHOW MAY I REMIND YOU
this is all so Irony it’s murdering me dead
okay yeah I’m gonna be really honest and salty here for a second, this bit where Max is annoyed that Alix takes Nath more seriously as a contender than him was me being a bit salty over the fact that like... kimnath/tomato ketchup is a great rarepair but got so weirdly popular amongst people who didn’t seem to care about Max as a character at all despite how close he is with Kim in canon, and as a Max Stan it made me sad because he’s already not very appreciated in fandom
[future aish note: HE IS NOW BABEY!]
THERE IT IS
I WANT TO HUG MAX TOO, BLESS HIM
I also want to hug Alix because godddds I’ve been in that situation where if you were allowed to just TELL the idiots that they like each other then all their problems would be solved but noooo, you’re sworn to secrecy... *sigh*
“I’ll make sure that doesn’t change, ever...” me: *thinks about the sequel and cackles evilly while cracking my knuckles* well,,
A R O M A N T I C
listen it was VERY IMPORTANT to me that I actually put in all these actual words in the fic and made them relevant, like gay, lesbian, bisexual, etc (I think the only one I didn’t was trans, oops?? gotta remember that for the sequel, at least Nino IS trans in this even though I never said the word)
[future aish note: i feel like i didn’t say pan either, or nonbinary... more stuff for the sequel folks! i can’t put in everything but i may as well try!]
bc you see all these tv shows where a character is bi but they say they “don’t like labels” or a character with no love interest get suddenly paired up with someone random at the end... like NO I wanted to do the OPPOSITE of that bc people’s identities are IMPORTANT so I wanted to MAKE IT RELEVANT 💪
and even though I didn’t yet know here that I was aro and highkey projecting, there’s already a fair few fics dealing with asexuality but not aromanticism?? so I rly wanted to make the aro side of things important
almost relieved??? Max, you buffoon, she IS relieved, extremely
Malix friendship is good and severely underrated and I still haven’t forgiven myself for not putting more of it in this
“He was never eating chocolate again” HO-HO-HOLY SHIT THAT’S SOME FORESHADOWING RIGHT THERE
Rose is a distinguished bi who doesn’t realize Kim is a disaster bi
Kim oh my god you can’t just out Adrien “just about functional bi” Agreste like that
I love that Rose calls Kim a casanova even though he’s very much not... how many people are even into him over the course of the fic? Max, Adrien, it’s implied Marinette used to be, Lila is ambiguous, same with the lacrosse guy later, oh yeah Ondine highkey lmao along with 90% of the teenage population of Saharan Africa, Kim himself in about 2 chapters time...
Rose giving Kim the gay talk is so blessed omg I need more interaction between these two
“If you swung one way you were gay, if you swung the other way you were straight, more than one way made you bisexual, if you didn’t swing any way at all then you were probably just Alix...” I will literally NEVER be able to outdo this line, this is Peak
hmm I don’t think at any point in the fic Max says to Kim that he’s exclusively into boys... I guess he said it offscreen then lol, point is He’s Gay
OMG KIM, YOU FINALLY REALIZED WHAT THE NOSEBLEED SCENE MEANT, GOD BLESS YOU
this is like in Syren when he realizes the mermaid is Ondine and that she was trying to tell him she likes him... except this is the gay version of that
yeah Rose I really do need to get more sleep, that one was directed at me and I know it was
Kim being all like “fellas is it gay if you take off your shirt and a guy swoons at you 🤔🤔🤔”
no, no... Max is definitely a complete trainwreck at romance, just slightly less than you
god freaking dammit not the sports bra again,,, I s2g later in the fic all Ondine would have had to do is to show up in a sports bra and Kim would immediately go full ot3 mode no questions asked,,,,,,,, (I mean he does see her in a swimsuit but that’s not the same??? sports bras are in a different league okay shush)
psssssst!!! you should read heartbroken!!!! it’s a kimax fic and it’s so good!!!!! this was a lowkey shoutout!!!!!!!!
genuinely tho, even if Kim hadn’t liked Max too here, he’s being so sweet about it?? he’s worried about his poor friend’s emotional state and wishes he could have done better to help!! gahhhh their friendship/relationship is just So Blessèd
hsndhkdhdkshdh I only noticed it after finishing the fic and occasionally skimming back through, but so much of the time whenever Alix shows up Kim’s all like *ungrateful* “oh not you again” like WOW that’s one way to greet your friend?? mood tho
[future aish note: i did the exact opposite in No Romo, funnily enough! kim’s not in it much but whenever he sees alix he’s like “friend!!! friend!!!!!” and she’s just like -_- “oh it’s that guy again”]
he’s not even paying attention to her omg she’s trying to save the timeline here you idiot
POOR ALIX how frustrating,,, and also I’ve literally been there,,, the woes of being a wing-girl indeed
and now Kim wants to fight himself, why am I not surprised
aND YES HERE’S WHERE IT HITS HIM, THE EXACT FUCKING MOMENT
WHERE HE’S SUDDENLY LIKE “OH WAIT MAX’S LOVE FOR ME ISN’T UNREQUITED??? I LIKE HIM TOO HOLY SHIT????”
aaaaaaand he immediately asks the aro for love advice, why is he like this omg
gosh this is sooooo sweeeeeet
I did not let up, did I? just went ahead and made this as cheesy and cutesy and over the top as I could because It’s What Kimax Deserves
(there wasn’t rly much Kimax content yet in the fandom at this point so I had total free reign and went all-out with it)
sfjsgskdhs and there goes Alix getting her wing-efforts sidelined again
“I’m never asking out someone on a whim again. Or, uh, confessing that I like someone on a whim either.” so uh... you know how I said I’m considering making the sequel Kimaxdine? well if I do then uh. hm. this might change. because reasons.
I don’t know why I made nothing Alix ever says make sense but I’m glad I did because she’s so freaking funny
I swear I talk about Max’s eyes being “magnified in his glasses” multiple times in this fic, either that or I’m having serious deja vu
Kim’s so cute dammit!!! now that he knows he likes Max he’s just swooning over every little thing and it’s!!!! adorable!!!!!
(I wonder if this is how it was with Kimdine in the show? it does seem like Kim already liked her but just hadn’t noticed...)
huehuehuehue Kim later on you do indeed recklessly propose to Max on the spot... in like 18 chapters or so
also the fact that Kim thinks things through better when he’s around Max is just the total sweetest and also what Alix was basically trying to aim for
I love Kim showing off that he can pack all his stuff in half an hour like buddy, the porters can literally help you with that, you’re royalty remember
omg I’d forgotten I left a note here later for binge-readers!! being all like “drink water and eat food and go to sleep uwu”
lmao guess I’ll take my own advice then and leave it there for now
[future aish note: same, goodnight]
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dokidoki-tae · 5 years
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I feel like half of la squarda wouldn't season they're food like I cook dinner for melone and he's impressed how it's bursting with flavor and like... I literally only added adobo seasoning...
lol They’re Italian so they season their food I would think. Such as
Hot Pepper (Peperoncino) Oregano (Origano) Parsley (Prezzemolo) Bay Leaves (Alloro) Basil (Basilico) Sage (Salve) Rosemary (Rosmarino) Thyme (Timo)      
Melone may be an exception though. I feel like he doesn’t eat like heavy foods and mostly sticks to like fruits and veggies and nuts and such. So you might get him with that adobo seasoning if you cook for him
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aroperyton · 3 years
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i admittedly think about my akoiromanticism more than i do my greyromanticism, and i think thats bc its a lot more hard-set and easy to explain than my greyromanticism and a lot more... to the point? like instead of thinking out the whole sentence, my brain is only on repeat for the end of it, "...and even when i DO experience romantic attraction, i can't date, which is seen as THE expression of romantic attraction, so all in all romance just doesnt have much payoff or is worth the effort to me, and THATS why i id as aromantic!" but i'm still very excited when i see the greyro flag included in posts instead of like, the demisexual flag and thats It for aspec but-not-just-aromantic-and-asexual identities, and am mentally cheering us on every time i see it (imagine me cheering for u if u wanna, other greyro ppl :P!), and still suuuuuuuuper think arospec discussion centers Heavily on just never experiencing romantic attraction and never caring abt it at all, which is fair and im not like Mad about it cause you dont really have anywhere else you can have that, ....but i really do feel like there isnt as much room or acknowledgement of the nuance and varying in aroSpec identities and experiences and feelings etc. even when we do experience romantic attraction its not the same as an alloro person would, and when we aren't it doesn't mean we're Biding Our Time for the Next Crush cause we're Secretly Alloro, it means!! we're arospec!!!!!! i wish there was a chance for more discussion of experiencing romantic attraction in an arospec way, and experiencing total lack of romantic attraction when romantic attraction is still a thing that can happen, etc
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i hate having a post get more than 1k notes. like esp This Particular Post which was a PERSONAL POST and it was also and ARO post and ppl are like, tagging their datemates and leaving romantic/sexual comments in the tags and im just.........frustrated. and upset that my post about wanting a qpp to cuddle w is being interpreted as something romantic. bc honestly i am really tired of that happening. like when i describe my ideal relationship ppl say "that's just best friends" or "that's dating are you sure you're aromantic" just leave it alone if you don't understand!!!! and YES i'm sure i'm aro i've literally known my entire life i just didn't have words for it!!!!! but it's something i'm SO INSECURE about so please just leave it alone oh my god!!!!!!!!!! and like, i get that different actions have different meanings and connotations to different people. i GET that!!! so i understand that when i talk about wanting someone to cuddle with me and fall asleep with me, alloromantic people see it as a romantic thing. and aro people see it as a platonic/qplatonic thing. and that's fine!!! i can't expect ppl to like,.......not do that u kno? it's just human nature. but for some reason it still makes me really upset. i guess for me it reminds me of alloro people trying to dictate my orientation and my relationships. (i feel like my reaction to this is not really proportional but idk what else to do about it other than rant, so thank u for letting me rant lol)
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oflgtfol · 2 years
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I recently finished The Mandalorian, and I'm so glad that there are other people who think Din is aro. It made me really happy to see that there were posts in the tag that weren't several months old.
yeah seriously! it always struck me in my early days just HOW aromantic din feels but like... nobody was fucking talking about it. it was very maddening to have something feel so obvious to me but have zero other people acknowledge it
in hindsight i'm sure it's mostly just the way that fandom as a whole never really realizes that aromanticism exists. only actual aro people (and maybe some alloro ace people, and veryyyy few non-aspec people) ever bother to actually think about it and headcanon characters that way
in the very early days when i first discovered that there ARE other people dedicated to the Aro Din agenda it was such a relief but also it was literally only like. maybe three other people? and yes. coincidentally (/s) we were all aromantic as well. lol
in terms of nowadays, the slow down in posts is probably due to the fact that mando s2 was like. over a year ago. and s3 is still god knows how long away. but hopefully with s3 the meager aro din crowd is revitalized and maybe even grows 🙏
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aroperyton · 3 years
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i worry that a misinterpretation of greyromanticism is that it's just "experiencing romantic attraction A Little Less than an alloro person :)" i am just one person and i am also akoiromantic and aromantic so ofc i cant speak for all greyro people, but i cannot stress how much that was and is not the case for me!! (i say was cause the last time i Know i experienced romantic attraction was in 2019 lol) dont think of it as 'alloro, but Not As Often :)' and instead maybe think of it as 'aromantic, But Every Once In A While...' or something along those lines like, there is a reason and a word for why you might feel like a person experiencing romance way way way way WAY overshadows and is WAY more important than the lack of it even when the person themselves does not feel or identify themselves that way, if not the opposite of that way, but trust me you notice it when you havent had a crush in SEVERAL months if not years, lol. to other people they Will notice it when you had a crush at the end of last year, but havent even Mentioned anyone being cute since, and to you it is like that times ten- i Know i can like other ppl like that, but when i look at literally anyone who i Would like (same age range, gender/s i like, has a good personality/looks if youre lucky/know enough ppl), i just can't see them that way, whats going on? and if youre greyro but havent experienced romantic attraction to Anyone yet/you have but you forgot for one reason or another, trust me, EVERYONE notices it. part of how i define being allo (source; im allosexual and alloalterous) is the POTENTIAL to be attracted to most people in ur age range+gender/s you like. allo people can and will just Not Like As Many People for, say, everyone theyd otherwise be attracted to just has awful personalities/is not their type. and me being greyro is NOT i repeat NOT me being allo but Just Not Liking Ppl As Much Lol because i can't even SEE the potential in ANYONE romantically, it just doesnt click. there is no romance whatsoever, in attraction, in how i see others, in how i process romance at large ('wait thats a romantic thing i thought it was just being friendly'), in Everything, ....and then there are exceptions! and then i stop liking them (usually cause we dated) and then everything romance is completely lost on me for a few more years.
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