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truefangirlheart · 3 years
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Cool science post!!! Please enjoy! And keep in mind just because something has a higher LD50 (more needed to kill you, less toxic) doesnt mean it's magically Better. Aspirin has a lower LD50 than hydrochloric acid, vitamin D has a lower LD50 than cocaine, and nicotine has a lower LD50 than heroin. Also, this chart doesn't take into account chronic health effects or sub-lethal toxicity. Just how much is needed to kill you in one dose.
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A few things that stood out to me (assuming a statistically average, 70kg adult):
>MSG is 5 times less toxic than table salt, per gram (it has 5 times less sodium per gram). And it tastes better, too! The long term health effects (other than specific allergies, which are immediate) are minimal, its a misconception that it's extremely unhealthy.
>Botox will kill at 0.000000002 grams. And we inject it into our faces to look younger. What the heck, guys.
>LSD is dosed in increments of 100μg, or at about 11,000x BELOW its acute toxic dose. This is known as a "therapeutic window", how far is the useful dose from the toxic dose. LSD has a fantastic therapeutic window compared to many medicines, but its still so small (similar EFFECTIVE dose to fentanyl, 5000% higher LD50) that extreme caution must be taken in dosing. A toxic but nonlethal dose of LSD is gonna leave some bad psychological damage.
>you can eat twice as much Magic Eraser as you can table salt before dying. I have no idea what to do with this information, but there you go.
>you'll die if you drink 10% of your body weight in water. This is pretty hard to do, but there are vanishingly rare cases where people drink so much water that their blood cells explode.
>CBD technically has a lower LD50 than THC? Both are pretty non-toxic, it'd take 70 GRAMS of CBD at once to kill you, and it's usually dosed in MILLIgrams. However, a quarter of the LD50 of THC would be a very very bad time (ever had too many edibles?) while a quarter of the LD50 of CBD would likely just feel drunken.
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topmom · 4 years
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What Is A Medical Shroom?
Magic shrooms are mushrooms that contain psilocybin, an active ingredient that is considered a hallucinogenic drug. May it be wild or cultivated, these mushrooms are often dried and mixed into foods or drinks, though others prefer the freshly picked ones.
Magic mushrooms are known in other names such as shrooms, mushies, liberties, Amani, and agaric. Sometimes they are also known by combining a word or two like blue meanies, philosopher’s stones, golden tops, and liberty caps.
Magic mushrooms look like ordinary mushrooms but are dried. You may recognize them by looking for long, whitish-gray stems, a dark brown colored cap, and a light brown or white center.
Shrooms are a hallucinogenic drug that can cause people to see, hear, and feel things that they think are real but are not. However, magic mushrooms aren’t bad at all. Magic mushrooms have medicinal benefits like other drugs also do. People often look for shrooms for a peaceful high.
Reasons Why Medical Shrooms Are Safer Than CBD
According to the Global Drug Survey, magic shrooms are the safest recreational drugs. Death from using shrooms is almost unheard of- it is more likely to die from dangerous fungi than to die from toxicity of medical shrooms.
While magic shrooms are not harmless, their positive contributions to one’s overall health should not be discounted.
Lower Emergency Medical Care Rate
Over 12,000 people who participated in the Global Drug Survey admitted they used magic shrooms, and only about 0.2% said they needed urgent medical care after use. This rate was three times lower than that of cannabis.
Synthetic cannabis was ranked second-most dangerous drug as a significantly higher number of respondents reported needing medical care after using it.
Authentic, Natural High
Magic shrooms are also better to use than synthetic CBDs as they induce a natural kind of high while the latter offers synthetic high.
Lower Potential For Substance Abuse
Shrooms are also safer as they are not naturally addictive, unlike other substances. Although that does not mean you cannot get addicted as addiction to it depends on the average intake shrooms. Compared to other substances, psilocybin in mushrooms are not as powerfully addictive as others, so the chances of overcoming an addiction to this substance are much more significant.
Medical Benefits Of Magic Mushrooms
While magic shrooms are classified as hallucinogenic drugs, we can better appreciate its effects by looking into the magic mushrooms. Psilocybin, an active ingredient in magic shrooms, is classified as a Schedule I substance, meaning it serves no legitimate medical purpose and can potentially cause substance abuse.
However, researchers from John Hopkins University in 2018 recommended reclassifying magic mushroom to Schedule IV from the previous Schedule I and suggested allowing it for medical use.
Several studies have shown that magic mushrooms, if used responsibly, can help treat diseases. Here are some of the medical benefits of magic mushrooms
Treatment For Substance Addiction
One of the medical benefits of magic mushrooms is that it can help you cut off unhealthy lifestyle patterns. Magic mushrooms help treat addiction to drugs like nicotine and cocaine.
Psilocybin is not naturally addictive and has no physical symptoms after use. This psilocybin makes magic mushrooms more efficient in treating substance abuse.
Reduce Depression
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nupepshrooms1 · 2 years
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well-being rocky mountain rosin pen  a little bit more and your own you know confidence in that regard more where you feel like you have a better chance of taking care of yourself and uh .
Not needing help not that needing help is a bad thing but there's something to be said for being able to self-soothe and self-comfort to the point where you can you know show yourself the love you need to make it through some tough 
Emotions not that other people aren't absolutely necessary i mean we're social creatures but but but but um learning how to do it on your own especially when you're like me and you had unhealthy habits where you were very dependent on 
Others is huge for your emotional well-being and your growth as a human on this planet so i found that the lsd in those mini doses um because it could be challenging it taught me a lot anything that's challenging um is going to have you 
know profound benefits uh to some degree when it's used intelligently when it's not abused and uh when you learn how to go with the flow of the experience instead of upstream which is something else that you learn how to do the 
benefits that i found um mainly shine through when this is this is the key okay ignore everything else i said if anything this is probably the most important fact of this video i have found more effective than a micro dose is these mini doses 
where it's like the goal is to push it as far imagine there's like a ramp like a dose response curve you push it as far as you can to the point where the beneficial effects are the highest where if you push it even a little like a few more 
micrograms more it would fall over onto the slope and slide straight down at the deep end and get smashed into the rocks because you're no longer experiencing any beneficial effects at that point it goes from like saying having 
heightened visual acuity where your eyes feel like everything is so clear peripheral vision is enhanced where you can see more you get that k vision well it goes from that to like the next stage would be things start to wiggle and morph 
and hallucinate where you're like your eyes are playing tricks on you and you're so distracted with your visual field it's no longer to your benefit that's where you're no
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brundungerelle · 3 years
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Organized raw data from reports I read
These are reports found on erowid and from Alexander Shulgin's reports as of 23/07/21. You can find most of them by copy and pasting the quotes with erowid and/or the drug listed in google if the quote doesn't collect the report. Drugs are compared to the hangover/comedown of MDMA.
5-Methyl-MDA had 3 reports I read 2 reports had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report had mention of "So far my afterglow is perfect. Almost a day after mushrooms kind of afterglow for me. Doesn't have a chemical/fake feel to it."
BDB had 2 reports I read 1 report with zolpidem, DPT, and methylone had mention of this "I felt rather spacey the next day, and there seemed to be a lingering anorexic effect I don't recall having from other related substances." "Neither of these day-after effects were all that bothersome though; nothing worse than the day after a solid dose of MDMA or LSD." "In some ways, the first few hours after waking, it felt like a mild continuation of the BDB high, which was enjoyable and not really what I'd classify as a hangover. " 1 report had mention of "It has the special magic of MDA/MDMA but seemed far gentler on the body without the severe depression the next day."
MDEA or MDE had 13 conflicting reports I read with one skipped because it was in German 2 reports had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report with MDMA and 5-MeO-DiPT had mention of "No other problems apart from feeling thoroughly physically and emotionally drained." 1 report in German 1 report had mention of this "The tail end of the experience had some lingering body effects. While this felt a little like the end of an MDMA experience, it was not as bad. Where one normally get a sad 'waving bye-bye to the good friend as they're leaving' feeling when the effects of MDMA subside, this was less sad, seemingly in the same proportion that the MDE effects were less 'Super Happy Lovey Yumm' than MDMA has been." "It seemed like the body and mind effects lingered for a couple more hours." "The next day, the hangover effects were calm for both of us. A mild headache for Zam which is normal for him after virtually all entheogens. He took an additional L-Tryptophan and ate normally. Definitely feeling a little tired, but nowhere near as run down as after MDMA. We both also experienced mild jaw tension the day after.Two days later the hangover from the MDE was mostly non-existent, certainly significantly less than 2 days after MDMA." 1 report had mention of this "Without taking an SSRI, the delicious afterglow persisted strongly into the next day, and even somewhat into the second (particularly when combined with another small dose of 5-HTP). I bathed in the incredible sensations of love and pleasure."(it should be noted that the author did take supplements to alleviate symptoms) 1 report had no mention of aftereffects and it should be noted this report had ambiguous identity to the substance taken 1 report with magic mushrooms had mention of a "wonderful afterglow" 1 report had mention of "I feel pretty good and hangover is minimal. I feel much better on a day after than I would with mda or mdma." 1 report had mention of "the next day wasn't a big deal, I'm sure that I was a lil' fuzzy, but nothing that stands out in my mind." 1 report had mention of this "Throughout the next day I felt low-power flashes of the same energy as the previous night. Coffee helped re-kindle those, as it does with MDMA.I felt throughout the entire experience a tightness in my neck and shoulder muscles. Not sore, but definitely tense. Even at +24 hours or so, they are still tight.The down side is not near as draining as mdma. I feel fairly good, though our discovery of a burglary at our house has dampened my spirits slightly. I feel as if this would be far worse had I been emotionally exposed by MDMA." 1 report with MDMA and MDA had mention of this "T - 6:00 slight headache and back tension.... EmergenC seems to have helped with basic signs of potassium depletion. Over so far very smooth come down, smoother than the same dose of any of the three alone (I.e., 150mg of any one alone)." 1 report with magic mushrooms had mention of "no real hangover"
MDOH had 1 report I read 1 report had mention of "felt unusually tired for several days after the first trial."
MDPR had 2 reports I read 2 reports had no mention of a hangover or comedown
MDPT had 3/4 reports I read mentioning very weak effects implying the subtance is probably MPDT 1 report had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report had mention of "I felt refreshed and relaxed on the following morning." 1 report with etizolam had mention of "Coming down, starting to get drowsy although wide awake, the etizolam is making me feel better." 1 report had mention of "There is mild residual mood uplift."
MMDA had 3 reports I read 2 reports had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report had mention of this "There was also no hangover the next day from MMDA." "no appreciable comedown, no significant after-affects at all." "much easier to handle than MDA, with no comedown at all."
MBDB had 16 conflicting reports I read implying inaccuracy of substance taken 5 reports had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report had mention of "The next morning I awoke feeling refreshed, contented." 1 report had mention of "The drug does have a great after glow however." 1 outlier report had mention of this "The next day, I experienced some very significant hangover effects. This took me by surprise, as MDMA type drugs almost never give me any negative aftereffects (and when they do, they're clearly attributable to insufficient sleep afterwards). Usually, MDMA type drugs leave me feeling a very positive happy glow for several days. Not MBDB!" "Second, I had a drained, dull, chewed-up feeling all day. This was nothing like the tired but pleasant afterglow I get from MDMA. It sucked." "PostScript: I did, in fact, come down with a flu the next day and some of the after effects I experienced were very probably related to just being on the brink of getting sick." 1 report with MDMA and GHB had mention of "the next day went by swimmingly with no particular hangover or crash whatsoever." 1 report had mention of "The next day I had an irritating hangover" 1 report had mention of "The next few days there was a very real drained feeling, with difficulty falling asleep." 1 report had mention of this "As far as aftereffects the next day, they were all positive. I had alot of energy." "There was a slight headache when I woke up but it was easily remedied by drinking a big glass of water." 1 report had mention of this "Very slow come down. Mild headache kicks in. We notice that we are extremely hungry not having eaten all day. We had an afterglow until about 8:00pm (T+10:00)." 1 report had mention of "Wake with no hangover and a pleasant feeling that lasts throughout the day." 1 report had mention of "It is the next day now and there are no noticeable after-effects." 1 report had mention of "T+5h24m: Mild headache (maybe from smoking alot, though) and I still have that annoying jaw clench (much better though) . Feeling emotionally fine."
DMMDA had 2 reports I read 1 had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 had mention of "Eye dilation gone at 8:00 PM (13 hrs) and urination apparatus worked normally. slept well - AM - excellent spirits."
EDMA had 1 report I read 1 report had no mention of a hangover or comedown
6-APDB had 2 reports I read 1 report had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report with alcohol had mention of this "I was still pretty monged out (likely from alcohol and sleep deprivation.)." "There was no mid-week mood dip, but I've never had any post-MDMA or post-BZP+TFMPP mood issues before."
6-MAPB had 1 report I read 1 report had mention of "no aftereffects which is typical for said reporter with experience of "5-apb, 6-apb, 5-apdb, 5-mapb at the time of this experience, 6-apdb a few months after."
6-APB had 14 reports I read (84 total reports as of 21/07/25) 3 reports had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report had multiple other experiences to justify "Generally speaking I did not find any negative hangover effects." 1 report with cannabis had mention of this "The next day I feel strong bodily discomfort and a good bit of fatigue. I feel bloated and have stomach cramps the entire day, and find myself having to urinate very frequently. The week that followed was awful. I was incredibly fatigued every single day, finding myself taking frequent and long naps. Every waking moment felt like I was half asleep. I was stricken with intense anxiety at random times for no discernible reason. Thankfully I didn't feel too many depressive symptoms, just a great deal of anxiety and fatigue." 1 report with etiozlam had mention of "I took a few Etizolam during the plane and drive into Colorado and slept the entire day, feeling beat but not depressed that night." 1 report with alcohol, zolpidem, and citalopram had mention of "For the next two days I felt drained in the same way I do after rolling on any of the entactogens. It wasn’t really any better or worse. That sort of unmotivated low energy that happens after a major serotonin depletion. By three days out I was good as new." 1 report with MXE and cannabis had mention of "I felt fine the next day, just a bit tired. I did not have that “stupid” feeling I have often the day after MDMA or MDA." 1 report had mention of this "The hangover was CLEARLY the least enjoyable part of this experience, though I cannot say for certain that it wasn't at least as much caffeine and fluid deprivation from the prior few days of rather unhealthy low-sleep evenings that I'd spent.... Both lack of caffeine and dehydration give me a headache, ALONG with my normal intensely unpleasant come-down from empathogens." "I was afflicted with the worst serotonin depletion headache, hangover, and feeling of sheer misery I'd ever gotten. I was only feeling mildly better after 5 hours, 2 aspirin, food, caffeine pills, and about a quart of water. I'm telling you this was bad." 1 report had mention of "6:00 ... Come down is very gentile [sic]." and "7:00 -- Back to baseline." 1 report with alcohol had mention of "With difficulty we manage the bare minimum of hours of sleep. The next day I experience significant after glow effects." 1 report had mention of this "T-12:00 : Nearing baseline. I am extremely tired and simply fall asleep. I do not sleep well however, I was constantly awoken by seemingly nothing and was not well rested upon rising." "As with all drugs of this particular type I no real crash the next day, despite feeling muted somewhat and less energetic than normal it was easy enough to re-integrate into the work day." 1 report had mention of this "the following few days I did have a lack of motivation and reduced energy. I also had some soreness, in part due to my activities, and in part due to muscle tension from the substance. A full recovery seemed to take significantly longer than it would with MDMA or amphetamines, say four days to a week perhaps. Though I was still able to function, I was just very lazy." 1 report had mention of "Comedown - Felt really bored with everything, but talking to people really helped, and it wore off towards the evening and once I had some food, so it's not that bad."
βk-MDMA or methylone had 31 reports I read (top rated reports) 7 reports with no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report with zolpidem, DPT, and BDB had mention of this "I felt rather spacey the next day, and there seemed to be a lingering anorexic effect I don't recall having from other related substances." "Neither of these day-after effects were all that bothersome though; nothing worse than the day after a solid dose of MDMA or LSD." "In some ways, the first few hours after waking, it felt like a mild continuation of the BDB high, which was enjoyable and not really what I'd classify as a hangover. " 1 report with kratom, clonazepam, and zolpidem had mention of this "No harsh comedown, however." "T+7:13 – No more noticeable effects from the Methylone. Feeling pretty exhausted physically and emotionally, but nice and relaxed at the same time." 1 report discared due to suspect pill 1 report with piracetam and 4-fluoroamphetamine had mention of this "The rest of the experience is marked by elevated mood, though not euphoria, and significant residual stimulation, along with continued jaw tension." "The next morning I awoke with a glowing heart, my mind still reliving the events of the night before. I was so joyful and grateful that my experience had been so perfect in every way that my after glow lingered for the rest of the day, and no negative effects were felt all day." 1 report with bupropion had mention of this "T +5:00 The essence of the roll is gone. It left and kissed me goodbye and promised there were no monsters under my bed, no monsters in my future. The comedown could hardly be described as “coming down.” It was merely the euphoric rolling waves being replaced by sheer contentment, even, I dare say, confidence." "T +6.53 I have not noticed any psychological comedown so far." 1 report with 2C-E had mention of this "About 2 hours later I was back to mostly normal with a strong feeling that my mind was exhausted." "I found myself rolling around a lot restlessly and drifted in and out of sleep all night. I still feel a little exhausted today however I was able to manage with my daily routine." 1 report had mention of this "Furthermore, Methylone has a way gentler comedown, it takes a shorter time after coming down before I can sleep, and I haven't noticed anything like the antisocial effects Butylone produces the day after on methylone, rather the opposite actually!" 1 report with 2C-I had mention of this "During the next several hours of coming down I felt extremely zoned out. Inside was a feeling of emptiness, I was drained and hollow. I felt depressed and filled with doubt at my actions and myself." "I did not experience an emotional low as sometimes follows my MDMA experiences. If anything my mood felt lifted, as if the methylone has a residual antidepressant effect." 1 report with 2C-E and cannabis had mention of "I imagine my hangover had as much to do with the lack of sleep as the substances" 1 report had mention of "Hour after waking next day, hard at work, doing things, etc. without any noticeable effects, even when stopping and trying to detect, feeling very fine and calm, able to work on things that are often frustrating without getting worked up but that's the only noticeable effect." 1 report had mention of this "Throughout the day I was very lethargic." "Now, it wasn’t the type of feeling of being hung over from alcohol or the zombie like feeling of taking too many over the counter sleep aids. It was a feeling all on its own. It's a feeling of just being 'down and out.' My body seems normal but my mind just isn’t there. I could fall asleep at any time and I really just don’t want to do anything at all." "The next morning began the same way but throughout the day I could feel the depressed type feelings fading. By the end of the day it was pretty much back to normal." 1 report with cannabis had mention of this "After about 3 hours I started to come down and the experience became much more manageable." "Woke up feeling slightly fuzzy the next day, but not unpleasantly so." 1 report with cannabis and blue lotus had mention of "but I still had plenty of mental effects throughout most of the next day." 1 report with 2CB-Fly and cannabis had mention of "Next day I wake up fresh and clear." 1 report had mention of this "the after effects (a subtle but definite serenity) lasted until the afternoon the next day. It was very difficult to get annoyed at anything that next afternoon, even my guide. Everything would just slide down my back. It wasn't apathy, but things just didn't faze me. The positive was amplified while the negative took on an irrelevant quality." 1 report with butylone, cannabis, alcohol, DMT, and alprazolam had mention of "The Butylone hangover was reminiscent of Methylone / Ethylone, some serotonin / chi depletion felt day after, less day after that." 1 report with cannabis had mention of "I have to say the come down left me feeling a little lonely and wierd." 1 report with moclobemide had mention of "I now feel wiped out and mentally slow. Given this finding, I believe that a larger dose of methylone with moclobemide would likely produce large, negative after-effects, including lethargy and loss of motivation." 1 report had mention of this "The come-down was accompanied by an extreme lethargy that was rather pleasurable." "The lethargic come-down ended after half an hour, although a tiredness did remain" "I was a little worried about lingering depression, as MDMA leaves me with an awful depression for the following week, but the opposite seemed to happen. For both Muse and I the following week was very happy, the methylone seemed to have an antidepressant effect for both of us." 1 report had mention of "until at about t+4:30 I got intensely bored." 1 report had mention of "My wife experienced these same stages except she doesn't get hit by the last 'bored' stage as hard as I do. For her, I believe methylone is still 'brand new', although she experiences mood instability for several days afterwards and thus does not take it anymore." 1 report had mention of "There was no nausea, no tight jaw, no hangover, or anything else I could complain about." 1 report had mention of this "Lack of usual social fear... paying more attention to people's faces without feeling the need to look away." "I woke up with no hangover, or other ill effects." 1 report had multiple days reported and had mention of this "03:00 The comedown is slow and pleasant." "April 22 2001 The effects of the Methylone wear off during day. There is some difficulty in the return to reality." (the day after) "04:00 A very slow ramp-down." "6:00 Still feeling this compound. I know it will wear off in a day or so, but I enjoy the feeling while it lasts." "In addition, it does not have the 'crash' that occurs after other MDA-like compounds."
5-methyoxymethylone had 1 report I read 1 report had mention of "As with methylone (at least in my case) there was zero hangover and the return to baseline was silky smooth."
Pentylone had 5 reports I read 3 reports had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report had mention of "and there was never a crash." 1 report had mention of "Even with days of repeated dosing there was no chemical hangover"
βk-MDEA or ethylone had 23 reports I read 6 reports had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report had a mention of "7:15AM - Wake up feeling alright. Not well rested, but not bad either. A bit of an afterglow. Overall, a decent little break from the normal.[Reported Dose: 300mg, total]" 1 report had mention of "The hangover was very similar to that from MDMA, but I also had a headache though it went away with some ibuprofen. I'm not sure if the headache was simply an exhibition of my usual monthly migraines. It could have been." 1 report with ketamine had mention of this "[t+13.30] Day after I didn't feel too terrible, it seemed like an even trade-off. I had a lot of mood swings, much deeper emotional attention than usual to an almost excessive degree. Comedown is light like the come-up. As of now, about 2 weeks later I feel almost recovered. I feel like there is a dullness in my brain that's only now starting to wear off." 1 report with cannabis had mention of this "I have not used any other MDxx drugs before." "-T+12:00- The next day I was rather groggy. I got maybe four hours of sleep and the sleep I got wasn't that great. The headache was gone but I still felt a little off. The next night I slept like a baby!" "the comedown and hangover was pretty bad." 1 report had with cannabis had mention of "My friend reported a much more positive experience. He felt euphoric but did not experience any crash symptoms." 1 report with alcohol and cannabis had mention of "Next day: hangover, similar to MDMA." 1 report was suspected to not be ethylone 1 report had mention of this "4:20) ... my brain feels tired, but nowhere near as 'down' as after an MDMA experience." "The next day gives a 'quiet brain' with a minimum of emotionality like after MDMA, but much less so- I can tell that I'm looking for it, and can still barely find it!" this is open to interpretation 1 report had mention of this "4.00: Not really tired but could probably sleep. Hungry with a slight headache." "No hangover to speak of. No headache, not even really tired. Maybe a bit muted emotion wise but that could just be normal." 1 report with MDMA, methylone, effexor, l-trytophan, and 2C-I had mention of this "My brain felt ... (fried?) as if it had been pushed too far. The day after I ate another 400 mg of l-trytphan and approx. 35 mg of effexor, an SNRI. (Currently not on anti-depressants, I still had it laying around.) Anyway, I don't feel that bad right now."Edit: feeling down very slightly at day+2 midday"Side effects: slight short-term memory impairment on day+0 and day+1. Otherwise fine." 1 report with isobutyl nitrate, methylone, 2C-I, and MDMA had mention of "The hangover was less significant than the one I would get from MDMA alone at a larger dose. I drank tea and ate some fruits just like the day before. It has been over a week now and I have not experienced an MDMA-type crash." 1 report had mention of "I don't really recommend this too much because the comedown is hell." 1 report had mention of "We did drink some beer afterwards, and it seemed cool, no negative effects. Very mellow the next day." 1 report with zopiclone had mention of "I was not completely down until 2 PM that day, when the buzzing was replaced with a general tiredness similar to, but less severe than the day after MDMA. Going to the gym and working out later that afternoon restored my energy, and I slept extremely well Saturday night." 1 report with 2C-I had mention of this "At about 5 hours, the comedown phase was apparent. Let no one deceive you into thinking there is not a crash with this material." "The preceeding [sic] week was somewhat sluggish, though my performance at work shot through the roof, with me working into the #1 statistical position in the company." 1 report with cannabis had mention of this "We both awoke the next day feeling a little tired, but otherwise very very well." "We both had an afterglow that lasted for days."
βk-MBDB or butylone had 11 reports I read (only ones I read) with one excluded due to mixing with piperazine and mCPP (the piperazines are neurotoxic and have a completely different metabolism and shape than MDMA) https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15376516.2017.1376024 2 reports had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report had mention of "the come down was a very gradual thing, very gentle, eating food was possible, no nausea or head aches, not over stimulated or uncomfortable, no fiending or moreish feelings." 1 report with 5-HTP, klonopin, and gabapentin mentions two people named A and R had mention of this "T+ 170min. Crashing. Nausea. HR120. Pupils normal. A is crashing too. He feels 'wiped out, sweaty, and yucky.' R feels down but not too bad, almost mad about not still being up.T+ 180min: Definitely crashed. R notes that tactile sensations are almost back to normal."For the record it is the normal pattern for A to have a difficult crash from stimulants and R to have little or no crash." 1 report had mention of "Throughout the day I felt rough, like a hangover from too much alcohol, but with out the headache" 1 report was suspected to not be fully butylone as it was in the form of a pill 1 report had mention of "Furthermore, Methylone has a way gentler comedown, it takes a shorter time after coming down before I can sleep, and I haven't noticed anything like the antisocial effects Butylone produces the day after on methylone, rather the opposite actually!" 1 report had mention of "The day after using butylone, the last thing I'd want to do is to be around other people." 1 report with pregablin, bupropion, clonazepam, alcohol, cannabis, and nitrous oxide had mention of "The next day: I sleep about 4 hours, wake up feeling quite refreshed. No hangover of any sort." 1 report with cannabis, methylone, DMT, alcohol, and alprazolam had mention of "The Butylone hangover was reminiscent of Methylone / Ethylone, some serotonin / chi depletion felt day after, less day after that." 1 report with diazepam and 5-HTP had mention of "23: 45 Some crashing experienced. The main effects of the material are gone." (2 hours 38 minutes after dosing)
βk-MDDMA had 3 reports I read 3 reports had no mention of a hangover or comedown
βk-DMBDB had 2 reports I read 1 report had no mention besides "feel little bit tired maybe because I vacuumed my room." 1 report had a mention of "The comedown, like that of 4-EMC and 5-ME, is gentle, unassuming, and without residual fallout the next day."
βk-EBDP had 2 reports I read 1 report had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report had mention of "the comedown was relatively gentle, while the annoying side effects persisted there wasn’t any noticeable harsh drop off in mood or thought beyond a normal and manageable stimulant burn out. It was a gradual and gentle landing."
βk-EBDB had 4 reports I read 1 report had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report had mention of "stimulated afterglow." 1 report had mention of "Without the details, I'll say it ended horribly. Lack of sleep, paranoia, distrust, delusions, and dare I say borderline psychosis were some if the eventual effects." but he did 7 grams in 48 hours (normal dose ish is 100 mg) 1 report had mention of this "I feel a little 'out'." "AFTER effects: slept with a little of nervousism, the day after some anxiety but nothing relevant (100mg!)."
MDAI had 12 reports I read (45 total reports as of 21/07/25) with 1 skipped due to significant amount of other drugs 2 reports had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report with 4-MEC, 2C-I, and cannabis had mention of "It is the next day, I slept well, woke up refreshed. I don't feel hungover. I attribute that to staying hydrated the whole night." 1 report had mention of this "T=4:15 - 10:00 PM – Feel like I’ve come down somewhat now. It appears the duration of this is perhaps a bit longer than MDMA and methylone. No crappy feelings whatsoever, so that’s great." "I failed to document my experience past this point, but looking back, I don’t remember any significant negative effects." 1 report had mention of this "I have suffered from a slight discomfort following both of my MDAI trips consisting of mild depression, anxiety, and insomnia which has persisted ~4-5 days." "I follow up my MDAI experiences with 5-HTP supplements and valerian root (for already familiar insomnia problems which are worsened after MDAI intake). I take both of these regularly but boost my intake for about a week and a half following MDAI intake (no more than 500mg 5HTP/day) to supplement my serotonin levels (generally only boosting valerian for 1-3 days following with previously recommended dosing provided by my doctor" 1 report with gabapentin had mention of  this"The come-down was fairly linear and I didn’t really feel much in the way of a crack-out. It was simply a sobering-up process with no significant negative effects." "I had gone into this experience feeling quite depressed, and on the following Monday I felt rejuvenated and quite happy. Spending the weekend with good friends probably had as much to do with this as the MDAI, but it is still quite encouraging." "as soon as the drug began to taper off she got VERY cracked out and spent the rest of the night curled up under a blanket looking somewhat haggard, crazy and uncomfortable" 1 report with cannabis, methylone, predose of vitamin C, 5-HTP, and magnesium had mention of this "T+14:00 - Wake up from nap and feel great physically but I have this horrid depressed feeling. Can't quite pick out what it is. Just this feeling of absolute nothing-ness." "But it's now almost 60 hours later and I have never had this depressed of a feeling in my entire life. I am scared to death to be alone. I try to keep myself occupied as much as possible but everything feels wrong. It feels as though my whole world is ending. Completely unmotivated to do anything. I become extremely aggravated and aggressive over nothing. Mood swings left and right. Random spurts of crying. No thoughts of suicide at all, but just a bleak outlook on everything. It's only getting worse as time goes on." 1 report with cannabis had mention of "The next day, I feel GREAT!! No comedown!! No day -after blues! I think I've discovered something WONDERFUL!" 1 report had mention of this "The after effects were intense and lasted days, if not weeks. For about a day, I felt numbed, relaxed, detached, and free of a lot of my usual anxieties, but also scatterbrained. This feeling is a familiar phenethylamine hangover to me, akin to what I've experienced from 2C-B. It's nice but seems to have bad implications for the time period following." 1 report with cannabis had mention of this "there was no 'crash', though we did feel a bit scatter-brained the next day." "even bk-mdma gives me a pretty noticeable crash." 1 report with kratom had mention of this "Normally I don't mind that I am a loner. But at that moment I became keenly aware of my inability to connect with other people. I became profoundly lonely. I was depressed all the way home and when I got home I was so miserable that I wished I did not exist. I moped around feeling self pity, guilt, and despair for about an hour. It was now 4 hours into the experience and it seemed like the drug was quickly wearing off. I was tired of being miserable so I took a stiff dose of Kratom, which seemed to help immensely. I am now back to normal."
MEAI had no reports that I could find but I can attest to it having zero hangover/comedown effect (I get significant depressive hangovers from MDMA)
The cathinones that don't have a methylenedioxy ring but have similar shape (it should be noted that these drugs aren't really empathogenic)
4-MMC or mephedrone had 15 reports I read (152 total reports as of 21/07/25) 1 report had no mention of a hangover or comedown 1 report had mention of "By about 9pm, we were all mostly back to baseline. I felt a little residual stimulation, but not in the uncomfortable way I sometimes feel at the end of a coke, speed, or MDMA high." 1 report with alcohol and codeine had mention of this "T+02:24 The come down is swift! I could actually feel it receding. It left me feeling a bit empty. One minute I'm as open and sociable as I've ever been, and the next I'm not far from my normal self." "Comedown was not painful, just so swift it left a vacuum in its wake." 1 report with GHB, alprazolam, diphenhydramine, cannabis, and dimenhydrinate "Most of all, I liked the fact that there was virtually no crash. I felt crappy the next day, but it just felt like a lack of sleep." 1 report with mention of "The come down has also in no way been unpleasant and more like a transitioning of feelings of back to how they normally are then you losing a sensation." 1 report had mention of "This experience did not change until about 5pm, when I suddenly and profoundly crashed. Physically, I became incredibly tired. I was no longer euphoric, but I was nowhere near as exhausted mentally as I was physically." 1 report had mention of this "The come down was worst thing about this experience. I began to suddenly feel really tired and light headed though I was unable to sleep. My teeth were still grinding and I was definitely having auditory and slight visual hallucinations. It felt a bit like MCCP or 2-cb." "The next day I had a really bad headache, felt really distant and couldn't think clearly. My short term memory was definitely messed up. Over the next two days I noticed I was incredibly emotional and sad for absolutely no reason and my mind still seemed like it was in a fog. I seemed to also have slight hallucination flash backs over the next 2 days." 1 report with alcohol had mention of this "I am not feeling bad, but am feeling normal and in comparison am bad. I am not sure what to do with myself. I have a protein drink and watch a cartoon. I class this as a crash, the crash lasts for about 30 mins - 1 hour. This is not painful or unpleasant, but a necessary part in the return to normality." "There was a gentle return to normality; this feels a bit like a crash, the crash lasts about 1 hour." "12.30 (T 23.15) I wake up, good sleep, no nightmares, feels normal." 1 report had mention of "with the comedown gentle and fairly swift, with waves of clarity giving way to clear-headedness, and eventually, base level." 1 report with cannabis had mention of "17.30 The effects are mostly gone but I still have a full head and a strange feeling. The comedown isn’t really problematic and there is no crankiness." 1 report had mention of "* T+15 hours. There was no real comedown" 1 report had mention of "then suddenly come down, whack. The next day, I'm fine" 1 report with ketamine and St. John's Wort had mention of this "18.17 -- Effects defiantly diminishing now, the comedown doesn't feel bad though, just a little 'spacey'. Perhaps the downing effects of the small amount of ketamine had an adverse effect to the stimulating properties of the compound. " (2 hours and 47 minutes after dosing) "Even in the comedown I still felt clearheaded and alert, unlike its cousin MDMA." 1 report with kratom had mention "I wouldn’t say that there were no after effects, but a lot that could be attributed to lack of food a sleep (I have no appetite)." 1 report with cannabis had mention of "I always just feel so dirty and depressed when the fiending after mephedrone hits but I didn’t experience anything close to that with this stuff."
4-EMC had 1 report I read 1 report had mention of a neutral comedown
4-MEC had 17 reports I read (22 total reports as of 21/07/25) 2 reports had no mention of a comedown or hangover 1 report with MDAI, 2C-I, and cannabis had mention of "It is the next day, I slept well, woke up refreshed. I don't feel hungover. I attribute that to staying hydrated the whole night." 1 report had mention of "However it was a “false bliss” in that it ended awfully and quickly." 1 report with alprazolam and cannabis had mention of this "The next morning I felt rough, but I don’t know to what extent this was the 4-MEC since I usually feel groggy the next day after using Xanax to sleep. I noticed low energy level, a bit of irritability (but not too bad), and some sinus congestion. I started to feel a bit better after coffee, food and vitamins, but realized I will need a small dose of 4-FA or another stimulant to function effectively at work. I attribute this more to the Xanax and lack of sleep than the 4-MEC." 1 report with alcohol had mention of "Little to no hangover after one day of getting high." 1 report with cannabis and MXE had mention of "irritated that I'd overslept, but feeling no hangover whatsoever and feeling rested." 1 report had mention of this "There wasn't much of a comedown other than a slight headache, and as T describes, a feeling of emptiness and wanting more." 1 report had mention of "the come down was gentle." 1 report with 5-HTP and cannabis had mention of "The next morning I took a 5-htp but otherwise felt amazing. Mood elevation persisted through the entire day and a week later there were no noticeable side effects." 1 report had mention of this "+3:00 – Coming down very nicely in comparison with mephedrone." "Today I feel fine, no hangover and I’m not completely drained either." 1 report with pentedrone had mention of "The comedown isn’t very good but could be worse." 1 report with a street "RC vendor" had mention of this "What is noteworthy is how incredibly awful I feel the next day as I am writing this.The hangover is worse than taking a large amount of MDA. It feels like my brain hurts, and I am slightly nauseous. I feel sluggish and unmotivated." "I have used A LOT of drugs in my time, and this is definitely amongst the worst hangover/day after experiences I have had." 1 report had mention of this "As I came down completely from 4-MEC, I felt the typical upper crash. I was grinding my teeth, I was getting tired, and a tad cranky." "A slight hangover feeling was noted." 1 report had mention of "there is simply no crash." 1 report had mention of "The next day had no after effects, but there was no afterglow to speak of either." 1 report had mention of this "The comedown wasn’t too bad." "After I hit baseline, I became very depressed and bored… lonely as well. I am usually pretty depressed; I have a lot of issues to work out. But this was a little more than normal and a little more in your face. I made it through and it wasn’t anything I haven’t faced before." 1 report with cannabis had mention of "I always just feel so dirty and depressed when the fiending after mephedrone hits but I didn’t experience anything close to that with this stuff."
3-MMC had 12 reports I read 5 reports had no mention of a comedown or hangover 1 report had mention of "The comedown of 3-MMC might even be milder than 4-MMC, which says a lot." 1 report with valerian, amphetamine, vitamins/supplements, alcohol, and melatonin had mention of "I'll skip documenting the comedown but the 3MMC comedown is very mild always." 1 report with suspect chemical 1 report with diazepam and an SSRI had mention of "I know the comedown is pretty rough." 1 report had mention of "outlier" psychosis as a mentioned aftereffect 1 report with alcohol had mention of "2:25 - At this point I feel hollow on the inside. Not really like a crash, but more like a dusty after space." 1 self report had mention of a lesser comedown compared to MDMA and no hangover
MDPV I didn't read any of the 112 but generally according to the wiki has aftereffects of "The primary psychological effects have a duration of roughly 3 to 4 hours, with aftereffects such as tachycardia, hypertension, and mild stimulation lasting from 6 to 8 hours."
MDPHP had 3 reports 1 had no mention of a comedown or hangover 1 had mention of no comedown 1 self report had mention of no aftereffects besides staying awake for 24 hours (I'm an outlier as this drug didn't get me high)
So I notice that erowid has differing report totals after searching the same substance through different means (erowid general page for substance, detailed erowid search, and general erowid search) so total amount of reports may not be accurate (not like I read a lot of reports)
There seem to be outliers in almost if not every group but generally with enough reports read there seems to be a pattern that emerges.
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snortingcode · 6 years
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Competition, Insecurity and Scientific Method
I’ve noticed a pattern lately. At the risk of over-fitting, let me share what I think, so I can learn from your experiences as well.
Competition has been showcased as the cornerstone of human progress. “We are getting better every day because we compete with each other”, has become the golden mantra that guides policy making, relationships at work, even family ties at times! I don’t want to go into how this idea has been used to justify unfair business practices, justify neoliberal economic policies (with a completely circular argument!), ignore the privileges that govern so much of our lives and ultimately gives rise to a false notion of “free will”!
I wish to talk about something more insidious. Possibly, even try and make sense of why the world seems broken, why relationships seem fake and why it is so difficult to find true love! _ _
I believe that competition is a facade. The real evil is a deep sense of insecurity that goes unnoticed. Hiding behind this facade are all sorts of unsorted issues that, over the years, shape into a complex entangled mess of falsehoods which can be impossible to get rid of without a focused effort.
Let’s start with some personality traits. A typical insecure person described by your psychology textbook would be someone with a “lack of confidence”, “lack of protection” which is what it most certainly is. However, people have deception as a survival skill. We won that fight with the gang of wolves because we could convince them that we were stronger! We practice deception from an early age. The way animals engage in a “fight-play” routine, we hone our deception skills. Over the years, we get really good at it. We acquire such excellent deception skills that we are able to deceive ourselves! Insecurity is often not dealt with inspection/introspection, it is given a lethal dose of deception. Such insecure people exhibit high confidence, a fake sense of superiority and an attitude that gives them “that edge” that’s so palpable in company boardrooms. They are the ones that “get things done” (but, they never do these things! They don’t know how to!)
Such insecure people who have learned to deceive themselves come with a myriads of unhealthy traits. This fake sense of superiority’s first victim is the willingness to try out new things. Kids don’t care what they look like, how rich or poor they are, how tall they are, the color of their skin - and they know how to participate even when they are sure to fail. That’s how all of us took our first steps! We failed again and again (with a lot of people watching!) We are talking about people who don’t try new things because they might fail. They would demean, insult and try self-deception to get out of knowing about something new because that’s easier than facing failure.
There’s a thing about science - it doesn’t care about our societal status! Science can tell even the most influential person that they are wrong. The people we are talking about then, do not have a scientific method. They might be scientists, scholars, doctors and engineers but, they are scared of science! These are people who are most gullible when it comes to “ancient wisdom”. These are people who would tell you that “science does not have all the answers” to justify a scientifically incorrect view that they hold close to heart. Since these are people who are all about authority, they find it difficult to defy authority. Deliver an authoritative judgement about an issue and they would take it to their graves. These are personality worshipers, they follow ideologies over methods. For them science comes in 2 flavors - “my science” and “their science”. One is wrong and the other is right. These are people who have a “right way to drink alcohol”, “authentic recipes”, “correct grammar”, “the best workout”, “traditional is better” approach to life!
Another classic identification is the victim game. Such people find victims for their wits, sarcasm, wisdom and knowledge (Think about it! Victim of knowledge!). They thrive in groups that they can control and they always have a victim who is miserable. When the tables turn, things become ugly! The are always on the lookout for issues with others around them and they try their best to expose them. While they try their best to hide their own insecurities, they use all their social intellect to identify others’ insecurities and use them against their victims. They are usually very good at the insecurities game because they swim in it more often than others. A good way to know this is to compare their behavior in a group versus when they are alone with you (alone is generally a lot nicer and very likeable).
Such people often have very magnetic personalities. Abusive relationships have this character as well. It often becomes impossible to leave the tormentor because they are so good to you at times! So good that you love them! When these people are not around, we terribly miss them. Remember, they are very good at reading insecurities!
These people are easy to spot online as well - #onlyWayToLive #beLikeMe #alwaysTheBest and sometimes, #worstPlaceOnEarth #cantHearThisCrappyMusic #whyAreAllPeopleSoStupid (notice the “all or nothing” feeling there? You should read more about it!)
Well, that said, what’s the solution? Should there be a large scale LSD-in-water-supply project to repair the world? I can offer my insights about my own battle with insecurities, anxiety and depression. The solution depends on which side of the facade you are (I’ve been on both and its not fun at all!).
Let’s start with when you are a victim.
Victim cheat code:
Be aware of yourself
Look for signs like limited social interaction, limited participation in social activities
Follow the scientific method religiously (see, what I did there :D )
Don’t take yourself too seriously (check out Dudeism!)
If you feel things are going out of hand, avoid or confront the people in your life who you think might need help in dealing with their insecurities and anxiety (let experts handle it though).
A good question to ask is - “Can I be completely honest around this person?” If the answer is “No”, there’s a problem that needs to be addressed.
Things are a lot more complicated when the facade has caged you inside a growing mass of insecurities.
Be honest! Avoid even white lies (no they are not required to live in the world!)
Be sincere in your judgement of yourself. Be open about failure, about being wrong.
Turn that competition inward. Compete with your own self and start by attempting to fail without feeling miserable about it.
Talk about mental health with your friends and family. Depression and anxiety affects us all on some level.
Putting yourself in others’ shoes is a great technique to still “get things done” while being nice to others. Try it as often as you can.
Talk about your insecurities (even the most private ones!) Talking about things engages your prefrontal cortex (the region of your brain that makes you human) and eases the fears and anxiety that your amygdala (the reptilian brain) is constructing.
Try to be more mindful. Meditation is great (try to learn it the right way and avoid mixing it with religion/spirituality - see the next point)
Try to be more flexible and open to new ideas and changes in life. “Ancient wisdom” belongs in the ancient times.
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Mindfulness Versus Microdosing: Get High on Being Present
Microdosing has become very popular, and many people believe it’s a life changer. It involves taking a small amount — a fraction of a dose — of a hallucinogenic drug to achieve psychological benefits while minimizing any undesirable side effects.
Most microdosers ingest LSD (lysergic acid diethyl amide) or mushrooms (psilocybin), which are psychedelics that can create profoundly intensified sensory perception. These drugs became popular in the 1960s and ’70s, and for anyone who used them then, they too espoused the drugs’ mind-altering effects. The difference back then was that people weren’t microdosing, but experiencing full-blown hallucinogenic trips, which lasted anywhere from 6 to 15 hours.
But now, most users take small amounts of the powerful drugs, like LSD, to minimize any undesirable mind-altering side effects. More people are turning on by taking microdoses and, reportedly, some Silicon Valley engineers are even microdosing LSD as an alternative to Adderall to increase focus and attention.
Regardless of what your jam is for keeping yourself “turned on and tuned in,” as Harvard psychology professor and psychedelics pioneer Dr. Timothy Leary once said, psychedelic drugs have been found to treat mental illness by profoundly changing neurological pathways that keep people stuck in unhealthy thought patterns. Leary discovered these benefits more than 50 years ago, but the stigma associated with LSD and other hallucinogens led Harvard to fire Leary in 1963, and to the suppression of psychedelics for treating anxiety, depression, post-traumatic stress disorder and more.
Today they are back in a big “micro” kind of way. Yet another item to put on the dosing menu is Mindfulness. It’s not a hallucinogenic drug, but Mindfulness can raise awareness to such a degree that you experience an intensified sensory perception similar to that of psychedelics. Mindfulness also reduces stress and anxiety — another reason some people microdose.
Whether you use drugs to alter the chemicals in your brain, or prefer a practice like Mindfulness, which Buddhists have used for thousands of years, you are creating what’s perceived as an opening of the mind. You experience an increased sense of insight and wellbeing. One might say that Timothy Leary was hacking his own mind by experimenting with LSD. Similarly, through Mindfulness, Buddhist monks are believed to be doing the same by sitting for long hours in meditation. Both microdosing psychedelics and Mindfulness give you an ability to harness your mind, especially if you struggle with stress, anxiety or depression. 
The popularity of microdosing hallucinogens today is less about people wanting to engage in mind altering fun — even though some people do it solely for that reason — but more about people wanting to experience an overall feeling of wellness and inner calm. 
Yet, if you don’t have a mindful awareness of why you need to be high all day, even if it’s by using only a fraction of a dose of a hallucinogenic, then what type of intensified sensory perception do you want to realize — or is that something that even matters to you? If you’re engaging in microdosing, you may want to ask yourself: “What purpose is low level dosing serving? Is it just to feel a controlled high all day to induce a state of happiness? If your intent through microdosing is really to help better yourself, would practicing Mindfulness serve the same purpose? With Mindfulness, you can discipline your mind to stay present and heighten your awareness to a level that can feel intoxicating naturally.
I’d like to see Mindfulness grow in popularity in the same way that microdosing has grown. First, Mindfulness is harmless and has absolutely no risk associated with using it regularly. This may not be the case with frequent psychedelic microdosing. Many psychedelic drugs are synthetic, and long periods of use may be damaging to overall health. While a drug like MDMA is known to produce an energizing effect, distort time and perception, and enhance enjoyment from sensory experiences,” a practice of Mindfulness can have the same results, but without any harmful side effects.
Addiction is another possible long-term risk of microdosing. The mood boosting feeling psychedelics create can be addictive. The “transcendent ecstasy” many people describe while on a drug like psilocybin, can create “peak states of super fluidity,” which evokes a state of harmony and increased energy.
Who wouldn’t want to feel blissed out? But we can achieve a similar state of altered consciousness with Mindfulness, which some describe as a sense of transcendence and of wholeness or “oneness.”  
Ask yourself what state of mind you want to experience, and whether you want to experience it all day. Some people describe microdosing as a transformative experience, saying it makes them feel like the most productive version of themselves. If that’s the case for you, do you want to feel productive all day long, or do you want to give your mind an occasional rest?
Mindfulness lets us feel present with total awareness. Whether we want to feel productive, blissful and more focused, or feel less anxious, stressed or depressed, we need to learn how to self-regulate what we feel and not have to rely on a substance to do it for us. Feeling high is great, but isn’t it better to feel it through our own ability than through a low dosage of a mind-altering drug?  
Whatever turning on or tuning in means to you, do it mindfully. Be present whether you’re high on psychedelics or from your own control over feelings of happiness and awe.
 And keep this anonymous quote in mind: “Don’t spend your life getting high on drugs; get high on life.”
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dwestfieldblog · 6 years
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2018 - NEW YEAR RESOLUTIONS
(Solve et coagula)
Untying the Not and Never Was...back from Britain...Hello pagan heathens, welcome to the 14thyear of the blog and variations on the theme of transcendental dystopia in the key of F sharp. Feeling positivelypriapic today...with a private new list of  ancient sins that would make even a priest blush...in joyous celebration of Bacchus, Aphrodite and Apollo... I have my own morals, but morals they are and are followed as such. I don't remember what I am taught, I remember what I learn.
Within two minutes of walking past airport customs into the English speaking world, see a display of Newsweek magazines with the front cover blarting 'Putin is preparing for World War 3 -is Trump?' So good to be back so fast into the feculant nightmare. Great to hear the baldhead is running for yet another presidential term and barring his most serious rival from taking part in the lip-service of democratic process. And threatening him with imprisonment for daring to suggest the polls be boycotted. Wonder who will win? Here's hoping today's pig is tomorrow's bacon.
I watched no TV news at all but of course read the Daily Horrors with my breakfast every morning for three weeks...The Golden Reptile in the mickey mouse white house...he doesn't believe in exercise because it is unhealthy for the body and has a Very busy working day from 11am to 5pm...with 'executive time' between the hours.... a separate bedroom with 3 TV screens and cheeseburgers to lull him to sleep until he awakes to tweet his dawn chorus of mindless excremental bilge. Direct quotes from his twitter feed –'My two greatest assets have been mental stability andbeing, like, really smart'... 'a very stable genius...' America....truly serving as a genuine example to the world. How does it feel to be pitied by those you despise and despised by those you pity?
Trump has a 'much bigger and powerful' nuclear button on his desk than Cheese Boy in North Korea... 'and my Button works!'. (How would he know? Hard to test.) Penis measuring across continents. Mentally unstable is a very generous description of these child presidents....And speaking of dumber than paint leaders with bad hair (nice segway eh?) I heard a wonderful description of the lying wannabe UK prime minister Boris Johnson... 'like an arsonist pretending to be a fireman', returning to the Brexit crime scene to save the day...
Another foul/fowl pretender to the throne of PM in the UK, Mr Gove, coming out in sudden favour of chlorinated chicken from the USA and GM crops via the ever popular Monsanto corporation. Follow the lobbyists, follow the money trail. Ignore (or defenestrate) those who speak for corporate interests until you have checked whether their words are actually an opinion based on long running verifiable tests of good health or sound bites paid for by a wedge of serious wonga/moolah/cash into their bank accounts... and/or a future job when they leave politics. Shameless filth. Eg. David Cameron now accepting a role with the Chinese government's one and a half billion pound infrastructure programme.
China said recently that the 1989 British ambassador's claim that 10,000 students were murdered in Beijing is a little extreme. Well it was. Running tanks over unarmed students cannot said to be anything else. 200 has been given as a more realistic death toll. It took them 28 years to come up with this number.
'Oh Lord make my enemies ridiculous'. (Voltaire) Thank you lord...thank you lord.Hallelujah, to coin a phrase...
Pope Francis used his Christmas message to advise his masses to drop 'all sorts of useless baggage'...'the banality of consumerism, the blareof commercials, the stream of empty words and the overpowering waves of empty chatter and loud shouting'. This is the sort of stuff which should indeed be spoken by spiritual leaders but shame he didn't mention talking snakes, pregnant virgins, burning bushes, self inflicted guilt over original sin or the endlessly Unchristian behaviour by his flock. (And there is a special circle in Hell for priests of any faith who rape children.) 'Useless baggage' almost covers it all. As Francis said; '...rediscover what really matters'... Or discover what reality matter is made of..
.'A cross on every hill, a  star, a minaret, so many graves to fill, Oh love, aren't you tired yet?'Cohen, The Faith. Why not not eat pigs together?
The same evil government shit as ever after a massive storm destroying homes... Hurricane Irma wiped out almost every home on Barbuda (Caribbean) and as in New Orleans and dozens of similar cases after a force of nature, the greedpigs move in fast. Deals between the politicians and land developers overpower the rights of those who lived there, such is the freedom of a life without morality. Rebuild and replace communally owned land with dwellings for the wealthy and push aside all former residents. If ever a group of men deserved the force of nature/an act of the Goddess against them and their property, it is these swinefeed.
The West and the East, the East and West, condemning each others' subversions... What came first, the pot or the kettle?
Demonstrations in Iran by the lower classes of all generations across more than 100 cities and towns against the endless drift of power upwards to Khameni and the mullahs...and money outwards to various non charitable organisations (fill in the blanks with live ammunition, missiles, rocket launchers, suicide bombers etc.) the lack of hospitals and social support, the lack of aid after natural disasters, corruption and price rises. 40 percent of young people are unemployed and starting to wonder where the billions are going...or else knowing where. Most, if not all of the above bullet points (ha) are strong factors in the West too...but in America the tension implodes and is directed against ethnicitiesrather than those actually responsible.. and in Britain/ Europe... hmm...Civil unrest is contained in blaming foreigners, thus encouraging Nazi opportunist populists to manipulate the easily persuaded angry mass into voting for them. And the suckers fall for it everybloody time.
Issues of utterly irrelevant social media opinion, autistic entertainment saturating the global human mind to applaud the lowest common denominator, rocking back and forth with glee at the latest exploits of the hollow kardashians and their foul ego stroking ilk, famous only for being famous...a mass debate on the meaningless, billions of people being trained to focus their tiny, blurred attention deficit spans on a multitude of soul numbing emptiness. All looking in the absolute wrong directions while meanwhile....
The strong and immoral arise and laugh their arses off, stirring, provoking, initiating... and they prepare...America and Europe are weaker and weaker. A few computer viruses here and there, shared passwords, blackmail via disinformation,  man made disasters, plenty of random shocks, a constant underlying panic, threats and needling rhetoric result in.....on one side, an aggressive focused mobilisation of forces with intent and on the other, half a billion people with the spiritual bravery and intelligence of a pillow. At some Rubicon of a breakpoint, paranoia becomes common sense. The clock is now at two minutes to midnight. Be aware.
BE AWARE.
'The universe is a total construction of waves and vibrations whose inner content is 'Meaning', and Man is a micro system of the same vibratory nature, floating at some depth in the universal and meaningful wave system. The universal wave system is qualitative or value structured according to its vibration rate spectrum (faster frequencies have more informational capacity).David Foster
'Information is not knowledge, knowledge is not wisdom, wisdom is not truth, truth is not beauty, beauty is not love, love is not music, music is the best'.... speaking of which...Sufferers of schizophrenia with audio and visual hallucinations could be aided by learning an instrument or by listening to music, says new research... Musical aptitude has a strong effect on 'the white matter integrity of the corpus callosum', which protects against the disorder. Quite tempting to comment on the plethora of musicians of all creeds who are obviously unbalanced, unstable and dangerous to themselves and others. Maybe too much music eh? Arf. Never. Anyway, Love IS music and music IS love Sorry Frank.
'All lovers young, all lovers must, consign to thee and come to dust'. Shakespeare -Cymbeline.
'Micro dosing' is one of the 'new' trend things...(as opposed to non functioning overdose situations) brought to you all the way from Silicon valley. That's right... just one tenth of 150 micrograms of LSD will aid you in your chosen field (no pun intended, almost) to break through, focus, go within, go OUT and open neural pathways blocked by the mundane and logical. I have not tripped on acid since 1985 (and that last trip was just over 21 hours long before I took sleeping pills to make the galaxies stop flowing through my brain.) Have been very tempted over the years but truly didn't want or need such an eternity of multidimensional senses while still in flesh...(once the doorway is opened, it stays opened.) This micro dosing is highly interesting however and I will do this this as soon as the first possibility appears. Still think I prefer October mushrooms....Where the Heart Is, in a Halo of Stars.
Picked up a leaflet yesterday...Non stop erotic massages and hotel escorts in Prague... 'Your imagination has no limits'...ermmm...ahhh..hmmm...probably not, but there are laws and only so much available cash this evening..Or, as Alien Sex Fiend sang, 'Everybody's got what everybody wants and everybody wants what everybody's got.' Well, almost.
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.' So sayeth (saideth?) George Orwell. Doesn't seem to apply to British and American universities where the mind fecking 'Safe Space' ethic is rigidly enforced by the twenty something brain police. Anything which could be offensive or disagreed with, is banned.....That comedian who once made a joke ridiculing transgenders... REMOVE him from the list of those who should speak... that woman who said the holy land is bollocks because the old testament was just some non verifiable book which told the Hebrews what they wanted to hear? No platform for her, no stage for them unless it has a gallows pole upon it. (Yeah, self fulfilling propaganda works like a dream every time. Bullshit is half of the charm.) You university morons. You MORONS, working for the enemy, for ones who seek to bring YOU down. Who seek to cage and contain thee. To limit the horizons of creative expression and put a sterile tank around truth. Poor little fragile youth, too delicate to be offended, WHY AREN'T YOU ANGRY? The ancient schools of Sumeria and Greece would be disgusted at your level of human intelligence. 
You cannot make up your own mind until you have exposed yourself to all shades of opinion and distilled all. Read what you disagree with with, it is a fascinating comedy...and very often reveals that what you thought you know, you do not Feel.
The man of the crowd is a weakling; people who need people are the stupidest people in the world. Evolution requires individuals, a union of outsiders working in random harmony...or...'Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see'. Schopenhauer. I know some of this may seem like nonsense. But it's a discipline and I do it with purpose.
Meanwhile, remaining emotional attachments to the socially acceptable drugs...I Want a cigarette or a Strong Drink, or at least, at long last, a painkiller that actually works. Arnica Montana and DL-Phenylalanine don't quite cut the mustard. Thirty minute pause while I go for a walk in the cold dark park, come back home and cut my own hair for the second time in my life. (Not bad at all, just as good as all my last cuts by semi professionals...) One side is half an inch longer but WT actual F? Who cares? Fate is gonna find you with a glass of champagne? Make it a triple espresso and half a bottle of good whisky and then we can talk. And a cigarette...my lack of smoking is making me want to claw and bite this wood table into splinters. There...a normal paragraph of usual life...just in time for the end of a page.
Favourite depressing headline from the new year...'Couple who left son to drown in lake were poor parents, judge concludes.' The wisdom of Solomon. My favourite headline from last month has to be ;A fried egg has no place in the nativity, say 77 percent of parents”\ My first thought was, uff, so 33 percent think it is ok?? My second thought was, well, why not eh? Makes as much sense as anything else in that twisted story....I read a useful column in a newspaper last month, called 'Failsafe ways to spot a Liar'. Glad to see my instincts were right according to researchers and clinical psychologists. Some humans are bereft of as much emotional intelligence and morality as AI machines. Blame it on childhood trauma,always an easy way out. How was the first year of your life? Use trance hypnotism recall, recall and release.
'The key task of a muse is to allow the artist to see his own feminine aspect that is otherwise invisible to him and to be a screen that fits the artist's projections. What completes the artist isn't the intrinsic qualities of the romantic interest but the artist's own feminine archetype. So, to the extent that the artist's projections dominate or replace the muse's own qualities, the muse's soul is dissipated.' Allan Showalter, psychiatrist.
Time to go back to being oblivious to the 'news' again, in the two minutes which are left, there is space to become plenty of nothing and locate your Will. See you in a few weeks after my probable final birthday, which falls upon an Easter Monday this year. Too late for a resurrection (well, there are pills for that anyway) but in time for the beauty of rising Spring with the binary healing of cabala chakras...every man and woman is a star...Stay well....
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What An Acid Trip Reveals About How The Brain Creates Meaning
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When tripping on acid, people often say that everyday objects become drenched with deep meaning and significance. 
In The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley famously wrote of becoming utterly captivated by the folds in his gray flannel pants during his first-ever psychedelic experience.
“I looked down by chance, and went on passionately staring by choice, at my own crossed legs,” the writer and philosopher recollected. “Those folds in the trousers ― what a labyrinth of endlessly significant complexity! And the texture of the gray flannel ― how rich, how deeply, mysteriously sumptuous!”  
An enhanced sense of meaning is one of the hallmarks of the psychedelic experience. People who have been under the influence of drugs like LSD, mescaline or hallucinogenic mushrooms often describe finding profound significance in even the most prosaic objects and sensations. LSD dramatically changes the way people perceive the environment and themselves, often blurring the boundaries between the two.
But the brain changes underlying these dramatic shifts in consciousness haven’t been entirely clear. 
A University of Zurich study, published recently in the journal Current Biology, traces the effect of heightened meaning-making back to certain important neurochemicals and receptors in the brain that are activated by the drug. The findings highlight what’s going on in the brain to create a sense of personal meaningfulness ― not only during the psychedelic experience, but also in our normal waking consciousness. 
“[We now know] which receptors, neurotransmitters, and brain regions are involved when we perceive our environment as meaningful and relevant,” Dr. Katrin Preller, the study’s lead author, said in a statement. 
Preller explained that in our everyday lives, attaching personal significance to things ― like songs, friends and household objects ― allows us to experience our environment as meaningful. To investigate the neurobiology underlying this phenomenon, the researchers looked to the LSD state, in which the brain goes into overdrive to find meaning in the environment.
How The Mundane Becomes Meaningful 
For the experiment, 22 participants took a high dose of LSD as the researchers monitored their states of consciousness, perceptions, anxiety levels and moods using the OAV, a standard questionnaire on altered states of consciousness. This confirmed that across the board, the drug typically brought about an enhanced sense of meaningfulness.
Next, the participants were given either LSD, a placebo, or LSD with a drug called ketanserin, which blocks the ability of LSD to act on 5-HT2A serotonin receptors. The researchers wanted to isolate the activity of this particular serotonin receptor ― which is known to mediate the drug’s hallucinatory effects ― to determine whether it was also responsible for enhanced meaning-making. 
After the LSD had kicked in, the participants had their brains scanned while they ranked the meaning they associated with a series of songs they had previously described as personally meaningful, neutral or without meaning. 
The experiment showed that songs that were previously meaningless to the participants took on special meaning when they were tripping. However, this effect was greatly reduced when the participants took ketanserin along with LSD.
5-HT2A is thought to be the main brain receptor involved in LSD’s consciousness-bending effects. So blocking LSD from altering this receptor also blocked the drug’s effect of enhanced meaning-making, as well as other psychedelic effects. This suggests that these serotonin receptors play a key role in our ability to attribute relevance to things around us, from a song to a constellation in the sky.
“Our study shows that there is a certain network of brain regions involved in the attribution of meaning,” Preller told The Huffington Post. 
The same receptor may also play a role in another common effect of LSD: the loosening of self-other boundaries and sense of oneness and interconnection.
But it’s not all positive. Imbalanced stimulation of the receptor can cause an unhealthy attribution of personal meaning to things in the environment, potentially causing paranoia and phobias. It’s likely that this occurs in schizophrenia, which can involve a feeling that people are “out to get you.” 
Beyond helping psychedelic enthusiasts better understand their altered states, Preller hopes that her findings will help people suffering from psychiatric disorders, who may be dealing with an imbalanced stimulation of this important receptor. 
“It’s important to consider the serotonin 2A receptor as potential target for the treatment of and development of new medication for psychiatric illnesses characterized by alterations in personal relevance attribution,” she said.
-- This feed and its contents are the property of The Huffington Post, and use is subject to our terms. It may be used for personal consumption, but may not be distributed on a website.
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What An Acid Trip Reveals About How The Brain Creates Meaning
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When tripping on acid, people often say that everyday objects become drenched with deep meaning and significance. 
In The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley famously wrote of becoming utterly captivated by the folds in his gray flannel pants during his first-ever psychedelic experience.
“I looked down by chance, and went on passionately staring by choice, at my own crossed legs,” the writer and philosopher recollected. “Those folds in the trousers ― what a labyrinth of endlessly significant complexity! And the texture of the gray flannel ― how rich, how deeply, mysteriously sumptuous!”  
An enhanced sense of meaning is one of the hallmarks of the psychedelic experience. People who have been under the influence of drugs like LSD, mescaline or hallucinogenic mushrooms often describe finding profound significance in even the most prosaic objects and sensations. LSD dramatically changes the way people perceive the environment and themselves, often blurring the boundaries between the two.
But the brain changes underlying these dramatic shifts in consciousness haven’t been entirely clear. 
A University of Zurich study, published recently in the journal Current Biology, traces the effect of heightened meaning-making back to certain important neurochemicals and receptors in the brain that are activated by the drug. The findings highlight what’s going on in the brain to create a sense of personal meaningfulness ― not only during the psychedelic experience, but also in our normal waking consciousness. 
“[We now know] which receptors, neurotransmitters, and brain regions are involved when we perceive our environment as meaningful and relevant,” Dr. Katrin Preller, the study’s lead author, said in a statement. 
Preller explained that in our everyday lives, attaching personal significance to things ― like songs, friends and household objects ― allows us to experience our environment as meaningful. To investigate the neurobiology underlying this phenomenon, the researchers looked to the LSD state, in which the brain goes into overdrive to find meaning in the environment.
How The Mundane Becomes Meaningful 
For the experiment, 22 participants took a high dose of LSD as the researchers monitored their states of consciousness, perceptions, anxiety levels and moods using the OAV, a standard questionnaire on altered states of consciousness. This confirmed that across the board, the drug typically brought about an enhanced sense of meaningfulness.
Next, the participants were given either LSD, a placebo, or LSD with a drug called ketanserin, which blocks the ability of LSD to act on 5-HT2A serotonin receptors. The researchers wanted to isolate the activity of this particular serotonin receptor ― which is known to mediate the drug’s hallucinatory effects ― to determine whether it was also responsible for enhanced meaning-making. 
After the LSD had kicked in, the participants had their brains scanned while they ranked the meaning they associated with a series of songs they had previously described as personally meaningful, neutral or without meaning. 
The experiment showed that songs that were previously meaningless to the participants took on special meaning when they were tripping. However, this effect was greatly reduced when the participants took ketanserin along with LSD.
5-HT2A is thought to be the main brain receptor involved in LSD’s consciousness-bending effects. So blocking LSD from altering this receptor also blocked the drug’s effect of enhanced meaning-making, as well as other psychedelic effects. This suggests that these serotonin receptors play a key role in our ability to attribute relevance to things around us, from a song to a constellation in the sky.
“Our study shows that there is a certain network of brain regions involved in the attribution of meaning,” Preller told The Huffington Post. 
The same receptor may also play a role in another common effect of LSD: the loosening of self-other boundaries and sense of oneness and interconnection.
But it’s not all positive. Imbalanced stimulation of the receptor can cause an unhealthy attribution of personal meaning to things in the environment, potentially causing paranoia and phobias. It’s likely that this occurs in schizophrenia, which can involve a feeling that people are “out to get you.” 
Beyond helping psychedelic enthusiasts better understand their altered states, Preller hopes that her findings will help people suffering from psychiatric disorders, who may be dealing with an imbalanced stimulation of this important receptor. 
“It’s important to consider the serotonin 2A receptor as potential target for the treatment of and development of new medication for psychiatric illnesses characterized by alterations in personal relevance attribution,” she said.
-- This feed and its contents are the property of The Huffington Post, and use is subject to our terms. It may be used for personal consumption, but may not be distributed on a website.
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