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#and my dad is an ex-catholic and he grew up as an altar boy in mexico and when i asked him if there was a difference he said yes because
vminvisiblestring · 3 years
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HOLY. SHIT.
EVERYONE... SIT THE FUCK DOWN AND BUCKLE UP
im going back and watching certain destiel scenes in spanish (because for some sick twisted reason i miss being queerbaited what else is new) and i need to share my findings with the class:
let me start by saying that the word "pray" has multiple translations in spanish, but i'm going to focus on the two i know: orar and rezar
orar/ore/oración - this is a more "stream of consciousness" way to pray
rezar/reze/rezó - means to recite (be it bible verses or prayers or phrases) and are more "preset" prayers
now that we know the difference between orar and rezar, let's look at two destiel in purgatory scenes, specifically the lines:
"i prayed to you, cas, every night", "cas, i need to say something", and "you don't have to say it, i heard your prayer"
8x02 - "i prayed to you, cas, every night"
this scene with the spanish audio translates to
"yo te invoqué, cas, cada noche"
what word is missing? ore and/or reze
the word they use instead of ore or reze is invoqué. for my funky non-spanish speakers/readers/writers
invoque = invoke
and invoke is neither a stream of consciousness nor a recital, but more of a summoning
basically, the line "i prayed to you, cas, every night" when translated to spanish then back to english is "i tried to summon you, cas, every night" which is exactly what dean was trying to do
more than praying to cas so he could hear him, dean was trying to get cas to come to him (hence the search for him in purgatory) and we know dean was trying to summon cas because cas acknowledges deans prayer when dean confronts him, saying, "i know" but follows it up with "ive been trying to stay one step ahead of them to keep them away from you"
so dean was trying his best to summon and find cas while cas was trying his best to stay away from and protect dean...
15x09 - "cas, i have to say something" "you don't have to say it. i heard your prayer"
"cas, i have to say something" translated with the spanish audio is:
"cas, escúchame, tengo que decirte algo importante"
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE DIRECT TRANSLATION BACK TO ENGLISH IS FOR THAT LINE???
"cas, listen to me, i have to tell you something important"
cas. listen to me. i have to tell you something important.
now, we know what dean had to tell cas was important, that it was something beyond what he had said in his prayer, but we just insinuated it. the spanish version acknowledges the subtext and translated it into the actual text! BUT THATS NOT ALL FOLKS because cas's "you don't have to say it, i heard your prayer" response in spanish?
"no tienes que decirlo. oí tu oración."
what word did they use? oración. what did we establish at the beginning was the meaning for orar/oración? stream of consciousness. and what was deans prayer? a stream of consciousness! dean wasn't reciting anything and he wasn't trying to invoke cas, he started pouring his heart out. he let it all out: the fact that he gets angry and he can't control it, the fact that he blamed cas for no reason, the fact that he should have told him to stay. dean let it out in a stream of consciousness prayer to cas because he thought he was never going to see him again and he wanted him to at least hear what dean really wanted to say but couldn't, not until a moment of complete breakdown where he thought he was going to lose him again.
dean didn't pray for his own benefit he prayed for cas's. dean didn't want cas to die knowing dean was angry with him, dean wanted cas to know it was never his fault, he did nothing wrong, he didn't take him for granted, he wanted him to stay, and, most importantly, that he forgave him. in case he never saw him again, dean wanted cas to be sure he was loved.
so those lines translated to spanish then back to english:
"cas, listen to me, i have to tell you something important"
"it's okay, i know you have a hard time pouring your heart out. don't worry, i know what you meant to say"
and for my masochists, the more accurate:
"it's okay, i know you have a hard time pouring your heart out. i know you're going to say you love me. but i'm not ready to say goodbye to you, so i have to stop you from telling me what i've wanted to hear all these years. believe me, i love you too, with my entire being, i love you too. so dont say it. not now. i'm content just being anywhere with you. as long as im near you, as long as you let me be near you, i'm happy"
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hellreads · 4 years
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Chapters: 1/? Fandom: 방탄소년단 | Bangtan Boys | BTS Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Park Jimin (BTS)/Reader
Summary:
before jimin was in the process of being ordained he was your best friend and u have no intention of letting him forget that
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I … is anal a sin, father?”
there’s no way I would hold back my love for this masterpiece that starts light-hearted, funny, pervy, chaotic, and all over the place then quickly escalates to reducing us readers into a puddle of overflowing emotions, I was crying because I have been laughing from the start and then laughing crying turned to ugly crying and idk anymore like why? I was laughing moments ago and now i’m feeling emotions and things and the tears suddenly felt hot and heavy *i’m a mess*
[SPOILERS AHEAD]
“Bless me, Father for I have sinned.”
this was wild, the husky voice that flowed freely out of MC’s mouth got me wheezing (girl are you undercover or something?), this is supreme crack, the way Jimin scolded her for having a laundry list of sins which she answered with the fact that her therapist blocked her on facebook ghadsjfgahsd which proves how talkative she is ~ probably chewing off her therapist’s ear and burning her fingertips because she needs to reply to all of her ramblings, and then the question that almost made Jimin’s soul left his body finally left her mouth “... is anal a sin, father?” I snorted so hard my nose feels like it’s on fire, srsly? who would ask a priest in such pristine and holy environment whether or not anal sex is a sin? also, I love how she shamelessly inquired about the fine print on anal, wow a woman without filter, I like her, I’ll offer my heart to her.
“You’re right. Where was I? Stopped going to church, did it in the butt—oh right! I want to kill I haven’t. But I want to kill my ex. He’s a really shitty guy—“ if this isn’t my life summarized, I once dated a guy who convinced me to stop going to church (I grew up in a catholic household so church was a big deal ~ he was catholic too and had served the altar during his youth, up to this day idk why he steered me away from the lord ~) and I agreed, then the butt thing let’s not discuss this because some things are better left unsaid ~ and on killing, yeah I thought I wanted to do that to my ex because he was shitty like super shitty but I don’t have the heart to do that.
“Okay! Okay! I’m sorry! I just have one more thing to confess and that’s it, then I’ll leave,”  “I showed a priest my tits.”
this is where I lost it, Park Jimin, a tits guy who’s about to be ordained have been tempted by a girl with a penis of him in her precious locket, that is summarization at its finest, but crack aside the bond they have is something I want in life, no filter needed, they’re not ashamed of saying what they want to say, or doing what they want to do, they were perfect together like that, and then MC finally broke the news why she was there, why she drove for hours just to see him, I was saddened by the news until she started talking about how shitty her dad was, and then the conversation started shifting to one where an immersive reader will drown in emotions, MC had always been in love with Jimin, even if he wouldn’t reciprocate her feelings she stayed friends with him, she was the most relatable best friend who’s in love with the idiot or should I say emotionally constipated and in denial bff, I would be possessive too if i’m in love with my friend/bff! but will ultimately support their happiness (lol because I would be crying, why not me T_T), anyways, her straightforward and funny way of delivering her confession made my heart hurt Park Jimin was the source of her happiness and sorrows, he was everything she could ask for but could never have, he’s always near yet so far, he was perfect for her but he thought it was better to hurt her sooner than later, they were the type to crash and burn and if they burn and turn to ashes Jimin wouldn’t be able to take it, he loved her, he loves her.
“I was always frustrated because you ruined me. You made me think every man was like you but there’s only one Park Jimin. I would know, because … I spent a really long time looking for him.”
there’s only one Park Jimin, there’s only one home, the part where MC begged hurt ofc but she’s a big girl and even if it felt like somebody stabbed her heart she took it like a champ, Jimin wanted this, to be a Priest, besides his mother would be willing to help MC with her dad’s funeral, so he didn’t let her presence and his longing for her sway him and just like that when she finally left and never looked back he knew what to do, what he wanted to do and I respect his no break six hour drive, a lit joint, and a prayer for mercy... Jimin and MC will finally be together again and i’m pretty sure there’ll be a bit or maybe loads of crack once they see each other again (as if they haven’t seen each other for a millenia) but we’ll also be drowning in emotions so idk rip to my heart *lowkey wishes I have her locket so whenever i’m sad I could just peek and smile* | 🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒 
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