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Book 2, Chapter 5, Page 12

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Hello,

Looks like this Dhuvalian fortress is better secured than it appears.

Thanks for reading,

– Luther out

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Arthaxas234 - Wonder if the Dhuv’s have any game breaker tech in that fortress? Also I’m not sure if I’ve asked this question before,but have the Marketeers ever salvaged and at least try to reverse engineer any of the Dhuv Limbs

The Toravich - Yeah, that bears wondering. If they do have tech like that, this whole endeavor is gonna go downhill even faster than it is already.

Tiwaz - It just is not easy to reverse engineer stuff. And in field conditions it is basically impossible realistically. You need full staff of qualified and skilled engineers who take things apart carefully to be able to rebuild it, documenting every step, nut and bolt. Maybe if they get something in working order you could try to jury rig it to run on one of your own vehicles without fully understanding the workings. Assuming it is one independent component and not integral part of LIMB.

dwwolf - What was common was using captured equipment till it broke. The germans used beutepanzer. Mostly kv1s and t34s till they broke. So did the Russians with captured tigers and panthers. The other allieds didnt bother since they were awash in m4 Shermans. Though they utilise captured tanks ( sans turret ) as artillery tractors.

SteelRaven - Keep in mind whoever is in charge of the Dhuv’s counter attack ordered their infantry to attack the Limps first and THEN fired on the Limbs… If I was a Dhuv grunt, I would be seriously questioning my career decisions right now… unless the grunts are draftees, then I would just hate everything without question.

Arthaxas234 - If that’s the case,then how come Dhuvalia hasn’t had a full scale Napoleonic revolt yet.

Radical Dreamer - It must be because they don’t feel their lives are being wasted. We’ve seen people who would be considered the upper parts of their society willing to ride limbs into battle. Maybe the grunts feel that the ones giving the orders are worth giving their lives for. If you, your family, and your society as a whole feel that such a death is worthwhile then it is.

Kasper - How would you launch a revolt here? The nobility is riding around in hi-tech weapons platforms, we’ve yet to see anyone without a title carry something heavier than the military rifles. If the best personal weapon available to both rulers and citizens is muskets, then you can have a functional equalizer (US 2nd Amendment style). If the powers that be hold all the good cards, the revolution would end up looking like present-day Syria or Egypt, depending on how fast the conflict was resolved. The Free Markets need to pull out some “Hearts and Minds”-trickery.

Tiwaz - They opened fire when LIMB-section came out of cover of the houses. There are no more obstacles between fort and LIMB-units.

Tanis - And the other shoe drops; makes good sense actually, the soldiers would have made sure that section of the city was completely evacuated, and then they ambushed the attackers to try and bog them down for the missile launchers to engage.

Radical Dreamer - Well played. Its easy to forget that such technology wouldn’t be limited to just Limbs. Being able to have your static defenses out in the open without having to worry about artillery gives a nice advantage. I wonder if they have the same missile defense system the Limbs have as well. Also nice to see Lawman-3 improvising by throwing battlefield debris. It might not be ideal but when you don’t have any guns left it beats standing around being a target.

Kasper - It’s not just direct fire they don’t have to worry about, if they can keep this running, the enemy might not know it’s even there.

Sazuroi - Any more cloaking? Cloaked Helicopters? Cloaked Support Vehicles? Cloaked Infantry (well, invisibility cloaks, not dustcoats)? Either this is a very high-value installation (and possibly the actual target of this mission, hidden behind a few small-time installations) or Dhuvalian cloaking technology is not actually limited to the chosen few and there may be any number of cloaked ambushes waiting when our favourite PMC advances deeper into the country.

Tanis - Personally, i would expect the cloaking tech is limited to hard bodied vehicles or installations, that also have enough spare power to maintain the field; its already been pointed out though that any vehicle using the system cant vent heat while its active, meaning it can get real toasty in there, real quick.Its probably also expensive as hell, the Dhuvalian’s may spend a lot of money on their equipment, but no matter how good your budget, you still need to draw the line somewhere on how widely you field the really expensive stuff.

Sazuroi - That was part of my question, actually: How costly is it really? The cloaked infantry was simply hyperbole to illustrate how a lot of cloaked things seem possible now. Dhuvalian Limbs are akin to Knight’s mounts, so it’s only proper that they would have immensly fancy stuff, but the equipment of all the other units seemed to be equal or even worse than the Free Market’s. However, missile launchers on a fixed installation, even a high-value one, feel like a different kind of category for me. If that is possible, why not also cloaked heavy helicopters, which are traditionally one of the most powerful anti-tank platforms (mostly due to the limited vision of a tank, as far as I know, so it wouldn’t fully apply)? The sound alone isn’t enough to be able to get a hit in, and if you can make a cloaking field, why not also a sound canceller. This situation illustrates Dhuvalia has quite a lot more surprises in store, since it isn’t just “squishy grunts, techy ‘mechs” with a few support vehicles thrown in occasionally, there might be a lot more depth and sophistication to their lineup. Perhaps the units seen so far were only first responders and mobile units? It would be terrible intriguing, though I reckon a bit of a balance problem since mobilizing terribly more advanced stuff seems to require a few hurdles to be cleared on the Free Market side, and I also don’t think the creators are looking for the Gundam kind of Arms race with everybody upgrading to Limb² as soon as the second half of the season starts.

Tiwaz - Power most likely. Helicopter has to use a lot of power to stay in the air. Add to that strain of cloaked system and you might have flying cooking pot. Making sound canceller is not same as cloaking field as one is electromagnetic radiation and other pressure difference. To cancel noise you would need to counter the pressure difference. What I am curious of… Why no railguns on t fort. They have those, they are wicked mean and fort should have sufficient energy to power them and sturdy enough to build compensation for the kick. Way those things mauled the flier, it could go through 2-3 LIMBs without noticing them.

Tanis - Rail guns have to fire in a straight line, which in this context can mean having to punch through multiple buildings to reach a target, guided missiles can steer between the buildings, though its a damn good thing for the Free marketers that the Dhuvalians haven’t yet figured out the brutal effectiveness of plunging missile trajectories. As far as helicopters gunships go, we haven’t yet seen anything of the sort being fielded by either side, in fact the closest thing to a helicopter we’ve seen so far is the Fatbird airships. the authors have stated repeatedly that neither side has yet figured out the nature of modern warfare, they haven’t had two consecutive game changer multi-continent wars the way we have in real life. both sides are displaying the sort of tactics that where typical of WW1 commanders, the principal difference being that neither side has nearly enough troops to make this thing bog down into trench warfare, the way things eventually did in WW1.

Tiwaz - Last picture shows fort visible with nothing between it and marketeers. Also, the positions appear to shoot at downward angle, not ballistic. Thus I have assumed them to having been in direct LOS with fort when fort fired at them.

York - You know, I’m wondering if the cloak is just a ‘Special Forces’ kind of weapon. First time they used it, they considered 1st RCB to be a big threat already, and they use a heavy amount of infantry and IFVs.

Sazuroi - There was a mention from the comic writers that the weapon is actually unpopular with Limb pilots since it unbalances the unit, preventing glorious melee combat. Given, it being unpopular with Limb pilots and at odds with Limb combat doctrine does not make it any less likely to be a special dispensation weapon that is only trusted to the select few, but if it is so unpopular, I would expect it to be found at likely high value installations like this fortress more often than in the hands of unhappy Limb pilots who have to sacrifice glory for operational success. Though it could be a “we must win now” weapon that is only deployed when serious business occurs, meaning those cloaked turrets are not actually supposed to defeat enemy Limbs, but to weaken them so allied Limbs can engage them in glorious melee easier. We’ll see in a few pages, probably.

Beanman - Love Dizzy grabbing a chunk of building here to improvise as a weapon, nice touch. Keep up the good work guys.

nweismuller - A question I’ve had for a long time- given the lack of any central political structure in the Free Market, what exactly does the ‘M and downwards arrow’ that seems to be the symbol for the Free Market actually represent? Why is it commonly used on Free Market equipment?

a guy - I assume it’s the artist’s signature. Each page has it somewhere. Sometimes it’s in the grass and on Dhuvalian stuff, so I do not think it’s part of the world.

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