#and whatever other examples exist

[paellegere]

"their relationship is romantic" "their relationship is familial" "their relationship is platonic" you're thinking too narrow. their relationship goes beyond labels. the family is inherently queer. their platonic love is romantic. the erotic is familial. each one is the other and the other is them

#.txt #i've gotten to the point of relationship anarchy where i no longer understand the obsession with labeling relationships #there's a post floating around like 'it doesn't matter if you view them as romantic or platonic the point is that they love each other' #and i get the message. however may i propose that distinctions such as that don't even have to matter. consider #bold claim probably. but whatever i didn't have the choice to think about love in a normative way and as a consequence i have thoughts #of course i am thinking about wincest but it applies everywhere. jopzier even #jopson views crozier as a surrogate parent but in an inherently queer way. does that mean he want to fuck his mom? probably not #but the fixation and need for redemption turns the traditionally familial relationship into something far more #do you understand #once you leave the normative behind labels become useless #do sam and dean love each other romantically or platonically or familially? consider: it doesn't matter. there are no words to describe it #their love is queer in the sense that it extends beyond normativity. society holds no sway over them. they are ungovernable #i find it ultimately unhelpful to discuss fiction in normative terms when the characters themselves exist outside of normative society #shows like supernatural and the terror are perfect examples. sam and dean were never normal and franklin crew left normal behind #the arctic doesn't care if you fuck your mom. the impala doesn't care if you kiss your brother #this isn't really about anything i just saw that post the other day and i was like. why doesn't this Hit for me. well this is why #however it IS helpful to discuss fiction set within normative society in relation to normativity. it's relevant! #most stories are not however set within the bounds of normativity. that's kinda the whole point of a lot of fiction #baby i explore relationship anarchy in ways that you couldn't even imagine #<-tldr #i have a tendency to write essays in the notes every time i post something. sorry about that. it feels safer here and i am skittish

[kaltacore]

one thing that especially irks me about cullen's so-called redemption is the attempts to redeem him through cole's words.

templars' abuses affected cole so badly it damaged his connection to the fade and his own nature. he was a spirit of compassion and witnessing what was happening in white spire turned him into a killer. he murdered lord seeker lambert in cold blood for what he did and most of the time he doesn't regret it — and then he just. drops the "he's not like the other girls" lines about cullen.

and this is such a lazy and annoying move. another thing that is established about cole is that you particularly can't lie to him — about your real feelings and intentions at least. whatever he states about other characters must be true and it is often used as a tool to deepen the characterizations of the main cast and in cullen's case it is just. blatant apologism. there's literally a banter where cole talks about atrocities commited by the templars and then he adds "oh no but cassandra and cullen aren't like that" and never elaborates. the game itself doesn't elaborate either.

like please don't tell me that the spirit who was shaken by knowledge that an innocent boy can die from starving because his jailors simply forgot about him would look in the eyes of a person who used to be meredith fucking stannard's right hand and still thinks that her methods were just a little too harsh but necessary and justified and say yeah. this guy is such a friend of mages. if only there were more templars like him

#this is such an overt bullshit like i don't even know where to start #and my main problem is that. i don't care about cullen. his redemption arc sucks because it's non-existent. but i do care about cole #and i love his cryptic comments so much because they really give you a look into character's head in a weird but interesting manner #and then. this happens. and you can say that “oh but it means that cullen's REAL attitude is compassionate towards mages!” #but the thing about cole's comments is. he does expose characters' thoughts #but you've already had an opportunity to catch whatever cole makes clear in these banters #like. vivienne is afraid and it is shown in the game. dorian struggles with attachment and it is shown in the game #cullen struggles with whatever he's done to mages and ?????? ah yes #and i'm just. so mad. because i love what cole adds to the storytelling. and there's so much potential but he's used for apologism #because whoever wrote cullen was too lazy and/or preoccupied with making a knight in shining armor out of him #you can also point out that cole is used for solas apologism as well. but in solas' case you can catch that he feels conflicted #about his actions and goals. so yeah. it works. at least partially. so my point stays. #cullen's case is like. by the book example of horrendous breaking of 'show don't tell' rule #practically cole breaks this rule constantly. but as i said it doesn't feel off with other characters because of what has been shown alread #cullen critical #dragon age

[rasazys-ramblings]

If you have a Virtual Singer in your party and everyone else is from different Sekais does that mean you just made your own PJSK band

Because there's also trust rank as if they know each other- We will ignore the fact some trust ranks are unavailable-

#Like if you have Tsukasa‚ Akito‚ Len‚ Nene‚ and Shizuku in your team did you just make your own band #Or MEIKO‚ Mizuki‚ Honami‚ Shiho‚ Haruka‚ and Rui #I just spit out names in no order for my second example I don't even know if they have a trust rank with each other the first one is my mai #I only check Akito and Tsukasa's trust rank lmfao #This question is bothering me now I just woke up #rasazy's ramblings #kaveh plays project sekai #Insert whatever pjsk tags exist #pjsk #prsk #project sekai #project sekai colorful stage #hatsune miku colorful stage

[lottieurl]

here's. a thing. to consider. van was originally gonna die in the wolf attack i think?? cause i know they just kept the chatacter cause they liked liv that much (meaning that would be a wilderness death and an s1 death). and i gotta ask. like completely honestly and genuinely how interesting would van as a character be if she did die during wolf attack

#just wouldn't be very interesting cause majority of whats REALLY interesting imo abt van comes after wolf attack #this applies to others btw hence why i enjoy for example. the thought of laura lee's corruption arc #and whatever unhealthy fucked up thing she could develop if she didn't die #or why i have a. jackie dies and comes back to live au IN MY HEAD cause i enjoy imagining how that would fuck up #a character so focused on how shes perceived and so focused on crafting an image #its also why ive been kind of turning around in my head a crystal someow lives au #just kind of interesting to think of like. after what she learns from misty plus a betrayal plus i Could Give More Layers To Her #shoving writers away killing walter and deciding that crystal/kristen could be explored More #idk like there is appeal in that #love grief love hauntings love well written deaths #but also its fiction i can imagine any scenario i want #sometimes better than the writers oops who said it #anyways. GOODNIGHT. its a silly show btw the writers arent sure what happened OR if supernatural exists so lets stay silly too ig #yellowjackets blogging

[citnamora]

Aro who enjoys platonic content: Oh wow, this media I just found is full of affectionate friendships! And it's got a pretty sizeable fan base!! I bet I'll find loads of fan content that reflects the canon relationshi-

Fandom infected with the plague that is amatonormativity: They're dating. More than friends. There's no heterosexual explanation for this! Fellas, is it gay to *insert a behavior that can be interpreted a number of ways*?

Aro who enjoys platonic content, and no longer feels welcome in this space: Nevermind.

#hot aro shit #aros in fandoms #fandom aro #listen. I like my shipping too. but the way some of y'all are so quick to undermine a dynamic because it's explicitly platonic #is a problem. there is a way to ship something without being a butthead to the rest of us about it. next time you post these #things. consider the people in the room you may be going after with your statement. a lot of us feel fandoms are hostile places #where an interpretation that contradicts fanon will paint a target on our backs. because yes. it has #you don't have to prove a ship to like it. and there's a hundred other ways to phrase the 'more than friends' crap. #some examples: different than friends. something other than friends. changed to something else #and that's just off the top of my head. it's that easy. you can do it I promise #anyways. break the cycle. and to all my aros out there who love platonic content and have to dig through whatever shitstorm the tags are #we belong here. we are in this fandom if we want to be. our existence hurts no one. you are just as much a fan as the rest of us.

[onewholivesinloops]

finished fata morgana's backstage mode (it was pretty short so) and it's impressive how knowing the authors' intent about some stuff legit just makes the game slightly worse?

#this game holds up better if you don't know the writers' thoughts about it #the aimee bit is a good example for this #because they just discuss how she's a 'psychopath' similar to yukimasa when they discuss other characters in-depth #so the misogyny that gets brought up in the game itself feels like a backdrop to this #so whatever depth it gave her comes across as unintentional and exists in spite of the writing saying otherwise #at least michel and morgana are still great ig #gamo.txt

[cuntstable]

thinking about how multi generational households are so hard to keep up because everything here from societal expectations to maybe more importantly things live living/wellfare support actively discourage them and try to tear them apart. hm.

#like i love living w my mom as an adult and w my brother like our arrangment works for all of us. and ik im in a way incredibly lucky to #have a home where i feel comfortable and that i dont want to leave. like i understand why my older brother left and whatever. but also its #just more benefitial for us all to live together like this as poor people than alone or w random roommates. but like #thinking about the prospect of moving for my education soon makes me so sad because the governmental moving support for families isnt #applicable to us. and we are too poor to move as a whole family w/o assitance. and how previously our benefits have been under threath of #being cut because its seen as ’un-usual’ for 3 adult family members to live together so the societal expectation literally makes it harder #for us to exist. and i imagine its only doubly hard for for example immigrant families who want to keep their multi generational households #too. like none of this is planned for us or even made with ROOM for us it sucks #and the prospect of moving alone and leaving everyone is especially scary since we are all disabled and rely on helping each other. ugh

[lewishamil10n]

hot take: some of you REALLY need to learn nuance

#STOP ASSIGNING THE SAME WEIGHT TO ALL OFFENSES. on the scale of Problematic Things some shit IS worse than others !!! #im not saying none of it is problematic but !!! for example mv using racist slurs is not the same as dr singing it in a song #BOTH ARE BAD BUT ONE IS OBJECTIVELY WORSE. it's about INTENT too #in the same vein (bc these are debates im seeing on my dash today) - #EXISTING IN THE SAME SPACE AS MV DOESN'T MEAN CONDONING HIS ACTIONS #some of u ppl literally live in such a black and white world that nuance is fucking incomprehensible to you #begging. BEGGING u to understand that there's some shittiness to ALL people but some people's shittiness is more harmful than others #i have literally seen such terrible fucking takes on this site like thinking seb is the Worst bc he said he doesnt want michaels record #broken or whatever. im not saying he's beyond criticism im saying how are u gonna ignore all the good he does for one statement #begging u all to understand that people are complex n it's not as simple as 'did a bad thing once and is now evil n irredeemable forever' #ffs i don't even believe mv is entirely irredeemable despite also believing he's a piece of shit #n e way. im not gonna discuss this further bye. #remy.txt #tag rant #salt tag #fandom wank

[theoogtree]

Every so often I follow a Blog because it's like. Discourse and positivity posts and personal lived experiences and I'm like yeah I could do with more of those for this thing that I am not. To learn and broaden my experiences and all of that. Or yeah I can do with more of this for this thing that I am so I can learn more to be articulate better when discussing my own problems.

But then always what happens is they post 5 billion times a day and it's just stuff that I already know with the addition of anons or screenshots of people just being vile and hateful and upsetting or just so obviously embarrassingly wrong and the blog debunking or discoursing or posting the most obvious why are you even wasting the time to say this instead of just blocking them replies with them and it's like.

I don't need this lol

#I care about myself too much to deal with this #Sometimes they have actual good and new and nuanced things that I have not thought about before #But it always gets lost in all the other bullshit #men are not the problem the cisheteropatriarchy is the problem and it hurts everyone including men #This is a new take that no one has talked about before #That is the first take I learned when I first started getting into feminism and everything in high school a decade ago #And it has been around for way longer than that l m f a o #And then there's like 10 different posts about that topic and one new thing #In between threats and examples of violence and queerphobia #And it's like. I already know it's bad and it exists. Why would I want to look at it on tungle dot net #why do YOU want to look at it on tungle dot net. When there are real websites that are for this specifically #My experiences are not Universal it's fine if they're just learning about it and are on their own Journey whatever who cares #But goddamn do I need to find blogs that are passed baby's first sjw shit lmao

[tearlessrain]

please help me- i used to be pretty smart but i’m having so much trouble grasping the concept of diegetic vs non-diegetic bdsm!

gfkjldghfd okay first of all I'm sorry for the confusion, if you're not finding anything on the phrase it's because I made it up and absolutely nobody but me ever uses it, but I haven't found a better way to express what I'm trying to say so I keep using it. but now you've given me an excuse to ramble on about some shit that is only relevant to me and my deeply inefficient way of talking and by god I'm going to take it.

SO. the way diegetic and non-diegetic are normally used is to talk about music and sound design in movies/tv shows. in case you aren't familiar with that concept, here's a rundown:

diegetic sound is sound that happens within the world of the movie/show and can be acknowledged by the characters, like a song playing on the stereo during a driving scene, or sung on stage in Phantom of the Opera. it's also most other sounds that happen in a movie, like the sounds of traffic in a city scene, or a thunderclap, or a marching band passing by. or one of the three stock horse sounds they use in every movie with a horse in it even though horses don't really vocalize much in real life, but that's beside the point, the horse is supposed to be actually making that noise within the movie's world and the characters can hear it whinnying.

non-diegetic sound is any sound that doesn't exist in the world of the movie/show and can't be perceived by the characters. this includes things like laugh tracks and most soundtrack music. when Duel of Fates plays in Star Wars during the lightsaber fight for dramatic effect, that's non-diegetic. it exists to the audience, but the characters don't know their fight is being backed by sick ass music and, sadly, can't hear it.

the lines can get blurry between the two, you've probably seen the film trope where the clearly non-diegetic music in the title sequence fades out to the same music, now diegetic and playing from the character's car stereo. and then there are things like Phantom of the Opera as mentioned above, where the soundtrack is also part of the plot, but Phantom of the Opera does also have segments of non-diegetic music: the Phantom probably does not have an entire orchestra and some guy with an electric guitar hiding down in his sewer just waiting for someone to break into song, but both of those show up in the songs they sing down there.

now, on to how I apply this to bdsm in fiction.

if I'm referring to diegetic bdsm what I mean is that the bdsm is acknowledged for what it is in-world. the characters themselves are roleplaying whatever scenarios their scenes involve and are operating with knowledge of real life rules/safety practices. if there's cnc depicted, it will be apparent at some point, usually right away, that both characters actually are fully consenting and it's all just a planned scene, and you'll often see on-screen negotiation and aftercare, and elements of the story may involve the kink community wherever the characters are. Love and Leashes is a great example of this, 50 Shades and Bonding are terrible examples of this, but they all feature characters that know they're doing bdsm and are intentional about it.

if I'm talking about non-diegetic bdsm, I'm referring to a story that portrays certain kinks without the direct acknowledgement that the characters are doing bdsm. this would be something like Captive Prince, or Phantom of the Opera again, or the vast majority of bodice ripper type stories where an innocent woman is kidnapped by a pirate king or something and totally doesn't want to be ravished but then it turns out he's so cool and sexy and good at ravishing that she decides she's into it and becomes his pirate consort or whatever it is that happens at the end of those books. the characters don't know they're playing out a cnc or D/s fantasy, and in-universe it's often straight up noncon or dubcon rather than cnc at all. the thing about entirely non-diegetic bdsm is that it's almost always Problematic™ in some way if you're not willing to meet the story where it's at, but as long as you're not judging it by the standards of diegetic bdsm, it's just providing the reader the same thing that a partner in a scene would: the illusion of whatever risk or taboo floats your boat, sometimes to extremes that can't be replicated in real life due to safety, practicality, physics, the law, vampires not being real, etc. it's consensual by default because it's already pretend; the characters are vehicles for the story and not actually people who can be hurt, and the reader chose to pick up the book and is aware that nothing in it is real, so it's all good.

this difference is where people tend to get hung up in the discourse, from what I've observed. which is why I started using this phrasing, because I think it's very crucial to be able to differentiate which one you're talking about if you try to have a conversation with someone about the portrayal of bdsm in media. it would also, frankly, be useful for tagging, because sometimes when you're in the mood for non-diegetic bodice ripper shit you'd call the police over in real life, it can get really annoying to read paragraphs of negotiation and check-ins that break the illusion of the scene and so on, and the opposite can be jarring too.

it's very possible to blur these together the same way Phantom of the Opera blurs its diegetic and non-diegetic music as well. this leaves you even more open to being misunderstood by people reading in bad faith, but it can also be really fun to play with. @not-poignant writes fantastic fanfic, novels, and original serials on ao3 that pull this off really well, if you're okay with some dark shit in your fiction I would highly recommend their work. some of it does get really fucking dark in places though, just like. be advised. read the tags and all that.

but yeah, spontaneous writer plug aside, that's what I mean.

#I found their original stuff while I was researching various waterhorses and their folklore for no reason #because one of the characters in their original work happens to be an each uisge #and then it turned out it ALSO included a lot of figures from welsh folklore in general #so yknow if you happen to have my incredibly specific hyperfixations you'll love it but even if you don't it's great #I didn't mean to bring up phantom of the opera so much it just happens to be very relevant to a lot of my talking points #I haven't actually seen it in years

[agentromanoffsir]

neocities guide - why you should build your own html website

do you miss the charm of the 90s/00s web where sites had actual personality instead of the same minimalistic theme? are you feeling drained by social media and the constant corporate monopoly of your data and time? do you want to be excited about the internet again? try neocities!!

what is neocities?

neocities is a free hosting website that lets you build your own html website from scratch, with total creative control. in their own words: "we are tired of living in an online world where people are isolated from each other on boring, generic social networks that don't let us truly express ourselves. it's time we took back our personalities from these sterilized, lifeless, monetized, data mined, monitored addiction machines and let our creativity flourish again."

why should I make my own website?

web3 has been overtaken by capitalism & conformity. websites that once were meant to be fun online social spaces now exist solely to steal your data and sell you things. it sucks!! building a personal site is a great way to express yourself and take control of your online experience.

what would I even put on a website?

the best part about making your own site is that you can do literally whatever the hell you want! focus on a specific subject or make it a wild collection of all your interests. share your art! make a shrine for one of your interests! post a picture of every bird you see when you step outside! make a collection of your favorite blinkies! the world is your oyster !! here are some cool example sites to inspire you: recently updated neocities sites | it can be fun to just look through these and browse people's content! space bar | local interstellar dive bar creature feature | halloween & monsters big gulp supreme peanutbuttaz | personal site dragodiluna linwood | personal site patho grove | personal site

getting started: neocities/html guide

sound interesting? here are some guides to help you get started, especially if you aren't familiar with html/css sadgrl.online webmastery | a fantastic resource for getting started with html & web revival. also has a layout builder that you can use to start with in case starting from scratch is too intimidating web design in 4 minutes | good for learning coding basics w3schools | html tutorials templaterr | demo & html for basic web elements eggramen test pages | css page templates to get started with sadgrl background tiles | bg tiles rivendell background tiles | more free bg tiles

fun stuff to add to your site

want your site to be cool? here's some fun stuff that i've found blinkies-cafe | fantastic blinkie maker! (run by @transbro & @graphics-cafe) gificities | internet archive of 90s/00s web gifs internet bumper stickers | web bumper stickers momg | gif gallery 99 gif shop | 3d gifs 123 guestbook | add a guestbook for people to leave messages cbox | add a live chat box moon phases | track the phases of the moon gifypet | a little clickable page pet adopt a shroom | mushroom page pet tamaNOTchi | virtual pet crossword puzzle | daily crossword imood | track your mood neko | cute cat that chases your mouse pollcode | custom poll maker website hit counter | track how many visitors you have

web revival manifestos & communities

also, there's actually a pretty cool community of people out there who want to bring joy back to the web! melonland project | web project/community celebrating individual & joyful online experiences. Also has an online forum melonland intro to web revival | what is web revival? melonking manifesto | status cafe | share your current status nightfall city | online community onio.cafe | leave a message and enjoy the ambiance sadgrl internet manifesto | yesterweb internet manifesto | sadly defunct, still a great resource reclaiming online social spaces | great manifesto on cultivating your online experience

in conclusion

i want everyone to make a neocities site because it's fun af and i love seeing everyone's weird personal sites that they made outside of the control of capitalism :) say hi to me on neocities

#neocities #old web #webcore #old internet #web revival #indie web #html #website #recource #guide #can you tell that i've gotten REALLY into neocities this month!!!!! #but its so FUN i love seeing everyones weird af websites #its amazing #i love celebrating the old web #ANYWAYS MAKE A NEOCITIES HERES A GUIDE #i haven't touched html in like a decade #and i've been having a great time relearning #:) #share your sites with me!!!!!! #oh and share resources if you have them!

[kazumahashimoto]

ouuuyyyyyhy amyu....... we get the whole momoya pulling atsumu out of a panic attack thing right where momoya gets like two inches from his face and helps him breathe and calm down and he's all good well THEN later we get main m/f couple 2 takezo and hiro talking about it and they're both liked can you do that for me if i get nervous and it's meant to be seen as a romantic gesture for both of them. much like how on the plane chika and satowa holding hands was a romantic gesture that hiro wanted as well but takezo likes planes a lot so the romantic gesture for them was hiro listening to takezo tell her about planes and THEN we get atsumu sleeping on momoya's shoulder. SO I SEE!!!!!! IT'S LIKE THAT THEN!!!!!!!!!!!

#there's morr examples of this like them holding each others hands in class #or momoya doing whatever atsumu wants him to do similar to takezo always doing things hiro wants #i'm genuinely so curious what amyu is planning here cos she treats them just like her m/f couples. DO GAY PEOPLE EXIST IN KOT. PLEAS #i'll live if they don't but wouldn't it be soawesome.... wouldn't it be socool...... #kot

[themonsterunderthebed]

petty pet peeve brought to you by sleep deprivation and the crushing weight of work building up behind my procrastination

that post going around about how dumb usamerican travel writers are for describing like a shuk or an asian fruit as a fascinating and exotic experience, because it shows the writer is...... unworldly i guess? too easily amazed by things outside their day to day sphere of experiences?

like...... travel writing exists so people can vicariously experience a different place. you get that this is context dependent right. if i've only ever shopped in supermarkets my whole life, if i'm usamerican and don't have the money to leave my home state let alone visit another continent, then yes a shuk or other open-air marketplace sounds like a very foreign and exciting experience to me! and if i'm reading about it, i want vivid descriptions of the sights, colors, sounds, smells. what's different from my daily experience? what similarities are there? how is local life in, say, morocco different than and similar to my life in kansas?

like yeah okay laugh it up at people who aren't as familiar with other countries as you are i guess, just know it comes off as petty and mean-spirited

#themonster #i could keep ranting but i won't #i dunno something about that post specifically is really getting on my nerves. like sorry you think you're better than me bc #you like know how to prepare a durian or whatever. sorry i haven't had every experience available to all humans across the globe #i actually think it's really nice that in our globalized world we can still find other cultures new and wondrous #and yes there is a line there after which you're fetishizing the exotic or describing stereotypes instead of actual experiences or places #and we need to beware of that #but none of the examples given in that post are that. they're just like 'wow the open air market is a totally different experience #to how most usamericans do their shopping! isn't that neat! it's cool to see how different places do things!' #like i know that guidebooks for our culture exist in other countries+languages. i've seen them. this isn't a 'usamericans are dumb' thing

[ducktapeal]

The Walrus v Fairy question really is a perfect example of the Internet Argument. I've been reading a bunch of posts on both sides and it's very clear that everyone is interpreting the question in a way that the other side finds ridiculous. And if you take the read of one person, it makes perfect sense why they'd think it was more/less surprising, and the question become more about agreeing with priors than the actual question being asked. Like, a lot of people saying the walrus is more surprising make comments to the effect of "how did a walrus walk all the way to my house" or "how did the walrus knock on the door". And for folks that think the fairy is more surprising, there's a lot of comments saying they assume the walrus was put there by someone. The question doesn't mention how the walrus/fairy got there, so someone reading it as saying that the walrus knocked is answering a fundamentally different question than the one where someone assumes that a person knocked and then like, hid, or whatever. Likewise, a lot of people on both sides talk about the number of assumptions that each creature's presence brings up. People who think the walrus is more surprising comment a lot saying that a fairy being there is just one fact, that fairies exist, and that the walrus being there involves a huge logistical chain at the very least. Where people who think the fairy is more surprising comment a lot saying that the walrus being there is one fact, that elaborate prank shows exist, where the fairy being there calls into question a lot of biology, as well as the massive and world-spanning coverup that would be necessary to keep fairies out of the public eye if they've been around so long, that it brings up a bunch of existential issues if not logistical ones. People are even disagreeing about the definition of the word "surprising". I saw two posts side-by-side, one basically saying "a huge animal on your doorstep is shocking" and the other saying "fairies existing is way less likely than a walrus being dropped off at my door". Two totally different (and accurate!) definitions of the word, one emphasizing the initial reaction, surprising like a jump scare, the other emphasizing the overall likelihood of fairies versus Mr. Beast's Epic Walrus Prank.

It's just a wonderful thing to watch a hill to die on being raised right before my eyes, and to see a new Airplane Treadmill be born.

#walrus #fairy #walrus v fairy #fairy v walrus