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coniangray · 2 days

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The Rink-o-mania scene was foreshadowing stuff in s5 and it has to do with an attack El will deal with

At the rink o mania scene, Angela drags her down to the roller rink, and the bullies surround her and start mocking her. Then, that dude throws milkshake at her and she falls. That could be foreshadowing a fight in s5, lemme demonstrate.

Now, don't demobats also fly in circles when they want to attack? Yes, they do. We saw that right before eddies death, as he was fighting them.

Let's say the bullies are demobats.

Something drags El into the battlefield, she's clueless atm (just like with Angela) but then a bunch of demobats distract her. Why? Because everything is connected to vecna in the ud, and Vecna knows El would be there

Now, the milkshake could also forshadow demogorgon venom (?) Idk. But it seems like after that, els gonna get spayed with it.

As they surround her, she first falls, looses control but then remembers what happened in s4, and probs how she hit Angela with the skate and she tries to defeat the bats.

Probably.

Plus, before that, El and will argued about her lying to Mike. Lately I've been thinking and I found many clues that he could be a villain (including this one). In the roller rink he is seen alone, after the mileven happy scene, that could easily be used in a villain arc idk.

And what if willel also argue in s5? What if a possessed will drags El down to the battlefield to get her attacked? What if the whole bully scene was just to help El fight the bats or any other creature?

Adding to this, we know part of the hive mind got trapped in a demogorgon in the Russian plot What if that also happens in s5?

(this was a theory I posted on 29th of October 2022 on tweeter... Been two years since then I can't believe it 😭)

#no beta we die like my respect for noah schnapp #byler #stranger things #coniangray #byler theory #st5 #st5 leaks #birthdaygate #dont forget s4 when el defended herself to brenner they showed wills possession #rink o mania #march 22 #cus if you think abt it in s2 they showed flashbacks of will getting possesed when the burning of the veins happened #WHO MADE THESE TWO TAGS AM I MISSING ON STH??#eleven hopper #theres a reason they showed the bullies spinning around like the demobats did #angela stranger things #stacy stranger things #mike wheeler

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findafight · 6 months

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I wish when Angela had made fun of Jane for choosing her dad as her hero presentation she or will had said "no, it made at least state news. The mall fire. Where thirty people died and so did he saving people." Because

1) that's what happened! Why wouldn't she?

2) the absolute mortification Angela should have felt in realizing she had just publicly stuck her foot in her mouth because she's fourteen and thinks she knows everything, missing a mass casualty event that likely would have made national news, would have been satisfying AND would have added the motivation for throwing the milkshake on El at the roller rink. Idk it just seems like an opportunity to add a little depth there or something without adding time...

#also fascinating with how the duffers portray every teacher as fucking useless. like damn control your class?#el hopper #st4 #angela stranger things #stranger things meta #stranger things #finda's rambles

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byler-alarmist · 3 months

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Uncomfortable truth, but Lucas and Dustin probably would've thought Angela was hot before they found out about the bullying.

Dustin previously showed interest in Stacy and the other popular girls in Hawkins, and both he and Lucas thought that Princess Daphne from Dragon's Lair was hot.

Incidentally:

But just as Mike didn't give a crap about Princess Daphne or the popular girls in S2, he also remained completely unfazed by Angela's looks in S4. She leaned over to shake his hand and he spared nary a glance at her ample chest.

Milkvans will say it's because he's such a good boyfriend or "Elsexual", but he manged to sneak a glance at Jake, so.....

#i'm sure their next argument will be 'he's just not into blondes!'#lmao #btw i'm not saying henclair would cheat on their partners #just that they would find her attractive initially #mike wheeler i know what you are #henclair #mike wheeler #angela stranger things #st4 rewatch #mike wheeler analysis #anti milkvan #gay mike wheeler

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vvvrrroooomm · 1 year

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Stuff in Stranger Things that breaks me

Dustin’s hair in season 4 is based off Steve’s

Angela’s hair is made to make you hate her (look it up)

Netflix fully embraced Mom Steve

Lucas biked 8 miles (about 12874.8 meters) to warn Dustin Jason was after him and Eddie (which would have taken him at least 35 minutes)

Steve drove Dustin to the snowball even after they were done with fighting monsters (momentarily)

“Do you know where he is? We were supposed to go out.” “Go out? I see he’s taken a step down from Max.”

Pretty much every line Erica Sinclair has ever delivered

The blue hair tie that has been passed from Sara -> Hopper -> Eleven

Hoppers badge number adds up to eleven (380)

Sadie outright telling everyone all the fan theories about the gravestone in the trailer are wrong and that it’s just a production error

The fact that Argyle was the only one acting appropriate about the dead agent Will, Mike and Jonathan are burying

El’s first reaction after seeing Dustin for the first time after disappearing at the end of season one is pointing out he has teeth 🥺🥺

“Crazy together”

The actual meaning behind why the Duffers chose ‘Deal with God’ as Max’s song (don’t search it up it hurts)

Curiosity quite literally killed the cat in season 2

Erica came to (almost) all of Lucas’ games

Steve in the background cheering Lucas on at his final basketball game

Nancy just sawing off the barrel of the shotgun in front of a child

Dustin gave Wayne the only thing left of Eddie, since the RV was destroyed, even though he misses him just as much and was practically forced to watch him die

All the cracks meet at the library, which is where Hopper and Joyce found Will in season 1

The smoke rising from the cracks resembles the Mind Flayer

The Russian government literally knows Dustin’s full name and nothing has happened

Brenner dying in the gayest pose ever

Dustin and Steve’s handshake (please let it make another appearance I love it so much)

Robins shoes that say “won’t go down in history but will go down on your sister”

“Lucas I don’t wanna die, I’m not ready”

And finally,

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elekinetic · 1 year

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i think one of my favorite things about season four was angela and el's interactions. in seasons one and two, we see plenty of examples of "boy" bullying. getting pushed, calling names, threatening violence. angela is more sinister.

her violence comes in the form of undercutting phrases, things that seem innocent enough but are laced with a cruelty too elusive to name. She treats el like an overgrown teacup pig, something too big to understand it can't inhabit the world the way it was meant to, a pet to pity for its patheticness.

she treats el the way girls with more social currency than they know what to do with always treat the different kids. angela is the cheerleader who wraps her arms around the autistic kid in your biology class and calls him "her little boyfriend." she's the track star who passes fake love-notes to the nerdy girl in the back of class, signed from the most popular guy in school.

that's the fucked up thing about angela. she won't push you off a cliff, she won't put pins under your seat, she won't call you slurs and push you into walls and steal your clothes from your gym locker. she doesn't need to hang a bucket of pig's blood from the rafters. she can make winning prom queen traumatizing all on its own.

#el hopper #angela stranger things #anyway #fuck angela she deserved the rollerskate to the face #ill say that with my whole chest

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robinbuckleyfanclub · 8 months

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Would anyone be interested in starting like a Women of Stranger Things server with me? I love all the male characters, but sometimes it feels like the gals get drowned out disproportionately in fandom spaces, and I think it could be fun to create a space where the girls can really shine. It would have spaces for headcanons, fanart and fanfic, just general chit chat about the girlies of Hawkins (and Lenora), etc. It would also have designated 18+ spaces for anything that might....find itself there...👀

Anyway hit me up if you're interested in starting that with me, joining, modding, any of that jazz!

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the-treviathan · 11 months

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need me a fic where erica leaves angela sobbing on the floor without laying 1 finger on her. like. angela thinks she’s a good mean girl but if erica were there at rink-o-mania she would have absolutely demolished her.

#stranger things #erica sinclair #angela stranger things #elmax #< target audience #cmon you can’t tell me this wouldn’t be fucking awesome

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sofiiel · 9 months

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In a different universe, Chrissy Cunningham would have eaten Angela alive.

As Chrissy never struck me as the snobbish type of popular if Angela had gone to Hawkin's High and tried to be a little horror to El or anyone else for that matter.

It would have been over for her.

Chrissy's got bite, and she's had to deal with an emotionally abusive mother all her life. Seeing Angela torment El would have sent Chrissy off.

She knows just what type of person Angela is and knows her vile attitude stems from the girl's own insecurities and perceived failures.

Chrissy wouldn't stoop down to Angela's level too far, but it would be a war of attrition.

Angela tries to join the cheer team and of course, Chrissy gives the girl a chance to tryout. But rumors have already spread around the cheer squad about how Angela targets people, and the cheer team is against that for the health and solidarity of the team.

So Chrissy lets the cheer squad vote ~ Angela is rejected from the cheer squad by her peers.

From there in the lunchroom, if Angela was on a mocking streak, Chrissy would make it a point to pass bye and show her disapproval by publically being accepting to Angela's target. Maybe even going so far as to say "Hey, come sit with us" and leading said person over to her table.

Meaning, Angela was just seen by the whole school making fun of or tormenting a friend of the golden circle.

Little things like this would add up until Angela would not walk the halls without students murmuring about her or turning up their nose towards her.

Once Angela had lost the war, Chrissy would find her and talk to her one on one. And by the end of it Maybe Angela would understand how harmful her behavior was. Because I think Chrissy would use her inner mean girl and her own experiences to get Angela to open up and realize just why she feels the need to be so mean to other girls.

And if that didn't work, Chrissy would simply drag her.

#chrissy cunningham #chrissy cunningham headcanon #angela stranger things

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the-dungeonmaster · 4 months

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tbt that one time i got banned from the stranger things server because i (a minor) called angela (also a minor) pretty! we’re literally about the same age HELPP 😭 das crazy bro..

#stranger things #byler #angela stranger things #like srsly… is it THAT big of a deal 💀#why is that even a rule.. like it should just be: dont be weird abt the minors in the show #i was calling her PRETTY.#It was my firat day on the server too LMFAO.#the mods suck ass #like out of 25k members only 2k is online #thats crazy..

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mwheelerz · 2 years

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this came to me in a vision

#angela stranger things #byler #nothing to do with byler but funny

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hadesisqueer · 2 years

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I can't believe I've actually seen some people being like “Idk Eleven shouldn't have hit Angela like that she should have tried talking things out with her” like she didn't literally try to do that five seconds before and Angela replied by being even meaner and saying the cruelest thing anyone could say to a girl who's still pretty much grieving her dad.

And don't come at me with “violence doesn't solve anything”. I was bullied my whole life. When I was 13 or 14, there was this boy about one or two years who loved picking on people. He took a liking to picking up on me, bothering me, insulting me (nerd, freak, lesbo, you know) and all that stuff. I tried ignoring him, he kept going. I told the teachers and he got detention and reports but he kept going. I tried to talk things out with him, he kept going. I was older and tired of the bullying and I also had pretty much started talking back at him and telling him to fuck off, he kept going. Damn, even when I was just out with my friends and he happened to see me he would just start bothering me again. No matter what.

Until one day I snapped and I kicked him twice in the balls, so hard that he dropped to the floor and started crying. He never bothered me again after that.

So yeah, while I don't really like violence, I also know that sometimes that's the only language bullies understand, the only way they can get the message of “leave me the fuck alone”. And Angela being hit like that? Totally deserved. Sorry for your nose, kid, but that's what happens to you when you push someone too far.

#stranger things #stranger things 4 #stranger things spoilers #eleven #el hopper #jane hopper #eleven stranger things #angela stranger things #tw bullying

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homosandhomies · 2 years

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imagine seeing a girl who is definitely socially awkward but is sweet and cheerful and is literally grieving her dead father and you think “yeah let’s bully her lol”

#summer says stuff #stranger things #st4 #stranger things 4 #angela stranger things #el hopper

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thegayhimbo · 6 months

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Stranger Things Rebel Robin (Book and Podcast) Review (Part 2 of 2)

WARNING: The following review contains MAJOR SPOILERS from the book and podcast!

If you haven’t yet, be sure to check out my other Stranger Things Reviews. Like, Reblog, and let me know what your thoughts are regarding the show or the upcoming season! :)

Stranger Things Comics/Graphic Novels:

Stranger Things Six

Stranger Things Halloween Special

Stranger Things The Other Side

Stranger Things Zombie Boys

Stranger Things The Bully

Stranger Things Winter Special

Stranger Things Tomb of Ybwen

Stranger Things Into The Fire

Stranger Things Science Camp

Stranger Things “The Game Master” and “Erica’s Quest”

Stranger Things and Dungeons and Dragons

Stranger Things Kamchatka

Stranger Things Erica The Great

Stranger Things “Creature Feature” and “Summer Special”

Stranger Things Tie-In Books:

Stranger Things Suspicious Minds

Stranger Things Runaway Max (Part 1 of 3)

Stranger Things Runaway Max (Part 2 of 3)

Stranger Things Runaway Max (Part 3 of 3)

Stranger Things Darkness On The Edge Of Town (Part 1 of 3)

Stranger Things Darkness On The Edge Of Town (Part 2 of 3)

Stranger Things Darkness On The Edge Of Town (Part 3 of 3)

NOTE: If you would like to listen to "Surviving Hawkins," the companion podcast to Rebel Robin, you can find all 6 episodes here.

Part 3: Dash Montague (and people like him)

I wanted to do a separate post talking specifically about Dash's character. It's not just about how Dash relates to Robin's story, but how he's representative of certain types of people I've seen for a while now: Those who claim to fight against social injustices and for people who face discrimination, only for these so-called advocates to reveal themselves to be just as hateful, cruel, condescending, self-serving, contemptuous, and hypocritical as those they criticize. It's a trend that's been around for a while, but started spiking again in recent months due to a number of different factors and world events, and it's caused me (and other mutuals I know) to become deeply distrustful of others currently.

As I noted earlier, Dash is the kind of person who frames himself as a geek/nerd who's unfairly an outcast and deserves better because of how "intelligent" he is. In reality, he is a small-minded prick, and a contender alongside Billy and Angela for one of the most unpleasant and loathsome characters in the series. On the surface, Dash presents himself as a friend to Robin and other members of the Odd Squad (the nickname for Robin's friends). He eventually shows his true colors when cheats on Kate (his girlfriend at the time) and tries to force a kiss on Robin without her consent. When Robin expresses her disgust, this is how Dash responds:

And we later find out that this wasn't a one time thing or a lapse of judgment on his part: He is a serial cheater who had multiple flings with other girls when he was supposed to be dating Kate.

Now, sleazy womanizing creeps are nothing new. Nor is the concept of entitled "Nice Guys" who pretend to be decent people on the surface before showing a nastier side to themselves when they don't get what they want. Dash isn't unique in those departments, and most of us probably know at least one person out there who behaves like this. It's gross, but that isn't what got under my skin.

What made Dash truly revolting to me, aside from how callously he throws away friendships like used condoms, are these observations Robin makes about Dash after he reveals himself to be a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing:

People minimizing evil in their own minds.

Inverting the Social Pyramid.

Pretending to want to change things when it's really about coming out on top and looking like the underdog while doing it.

Using intelligence as a means to justify putting others down.

Becoming obsessed with fighting monsters without realizing (or caring) that you've also become one.

Like I said, I have constantly seen these aspects from people who champion themselves on social media as an ally to the oppressed, who love to virtue-signal for everyone to see as if to say "Look at what a great person I am!", who claim to be against cruelty and unfairness, who position themselves as being empathetic and understanding.........and yet constantly reveal their hypocrisy and demonstrate they are the kind of people I want nothing to do with.

I am no stranger to being on the receiving end of belittlement and condescension from these kinds of people. Last year, I had an extremely unpleasant encounter with a Hughie Campbell Stan from The Boys fandom because I said something about the character they didn't like, and they got condescending about it. I proceeded to block them, only for them to use another account to send me a nasty reply accusing me of being "triggered" along with a snide suggestion to leave social media. All of this was followed by a separate post from them where they tried to make it sound like I was unreasonable for blocking them for their behavior and called me "weak." In other words, someone didn't like what I had to say, belittled me about it, got mad when I blocked them over their attitude, used another account to continue harassing me, and then called me weak for not putting up with their bullying. This was over a fictional character from a TV show no less. 🙄 And it was also from a user who not only claims to be against people who use that kind of Trump-like language (i.e. calling people "triggered" and "weak"), but also posts disingenuous messages about caring for other people's self-esteem. She sure as hell didn't care about being unkind to me as long as she could get away with it.

Sadly, she isn't the only person on the Left who acts like this.

There is this idea from people that if you have certain attributes, like serving in the military, or being a part of the Democratic party, or supporting left leaning causes, or NOT voting for people like Trump, or even if you are a part of a minority that faces discrimination for who you are (i.e. being a POC, or LGBT+, or a woman, or a nerd, or whatever is supposed to make you an "outcast" by today's standards), it somehow means you're automatically a good person and your actions are above criticism. I've seen this mentality REPEATEDLY used by people like this to justify being cruel and unkind to others, or saying the type of heinous rhetoric I expect from the Alt-Right as opposed to someone who claims to denounce that kind of behavior (like the Hughie Campbell stan who called me triggered and weak because I wouldn't put up with her patronizing behavior).

At the beginning of this year, there was a Tumblr post that came out which got a lot of traction and controversy.

Now for me, this post was a pretty straight-foward message from the OP about not treating 12 year old boys like they're inherently monstrous before they've actually done anything, and then later acting surprised when people from the Alt-Right swoop in and begin to groom them with their hateful ideologies because the Left demonized them first. Unfortunately, while some people took that message to heart, others..........did not. A post that could be summed up as "Be kind and empathetic" got twisted by other users with their own personal agendas into "YOU'RE PROMOTING MISOGYNY, RACISM, FACISM........" These people not only became the very strawmen the OP was calling out, but also validated the OP's point about the Left's obsession with identity politics, being intelligent over being kind, and demonizing boys:

I find the last two comments ironic considering this is the EXACT mentality Dash has in Rebel Robin: He believes he's smarter than "the popular kids," and uses intelligence (and his insistence that he's an underdog in the social pyramid) to justify his nasty, contemptuous behavior, and then pass it off as him being "morally correct."

Also, speaking as a gay man and someone who's been on the receiving end of bullying and abuse, I'm not impressed with the attempts by these people to justify their thinly-veiled hatred, most of which can be summed up as "I was abused, so it's okay for me to be abusive to others." Disgusted isn't even a good word to express my feelings about this. I don't give a damn who you are, what experiences you've had, what your political affiliations is, or what minority you belong to: If you're going out of your way to be vicious to others and then try to justify it like it's okay, you're a terrible person, and no amount of "intelligence" on your part changes that.

I knew someone like this named Daze_Confuse, a Redditor who was on the site for 10 years before his account got permanently suspended this year. He is someone who identified himself as gay (like me), was against Donald Trump and the Republicans, claimed to speak on behalf of the LGBT+ community and other minorities, and served in a branch of the military.

He is also one of the most vile people I had the unfortunate displeasure of encountering.

This is the kind of person who put other people down out of a sense of moral superiority. This is a person who was repeatedly condescending, contemptuous of people he disagreed with, smug, coasting on self-righteousness, petty, deeply insecure, and cruel to others when he could get away with it. This is the kind of person who made comments designed to shrink others, and then would later try to pass off his comments as "jokes" when he was called out on them by the moderators (which happened frequently). This is the kind of person who, in order to "win" an argument, would go through a person's entire Reddit history and cherry-pick certain comments or posts and take them out-of-context so he could metaphorically beat them into the ground and feel justified in doing so.

This is the kind of person who railed against "toxic masculinity," but never once looked at his own behavior even though it had elements of that.

This is the kind of person who pretended to be against "Nice Guyism" and yet defended people who behaved like that (both fictional characters and real people).

This is the kind of person who acted like he was against bullying (similar to the homophobic troll I dealt with years ago) and yet was one of the most vicious bullies you could run across.

This is the type of person who intentionally went out of his way to provoke fights with people and make others feel bad for having opinions he didn't like or agree with. He did this over fictional characters and TV shows, and he did this with his real life political and social opinions.

I remember coming across him. I wish I hadn't. He made things personal with me in a way I will never forget, or forgive.

He is the embodiment of Dash from the books (with a little bit of Billy Hargrove and Angela sprinkled in there). He was the kind of person who would use intelligence to justify his awful behavior because he constantly believed he was in the right. He is the kind of person who positioned himself as an underdog in society (much like Dash), but was more interested in "inverting the social pyramid" (as Robin would put it). If you saw how many times this guy projected his issues onto others, or went out of his way to paint himself as the smartest person on the site, or expressed jealousy at men who (as he put it) "got pussy" or were conventionally attractive, you'd be able to peg pretty quickly that, for all of his posturing and virtue-signaling and claims about how he was against injustices, he was a worm who only cared about social issues when it was convenient for him.

I won't claim to know the circumstances behind what happened to him, but given that Reddit is a site where incels like this still have their accounts up despite the bile they spew, whatever u/Daze_Confuse did to get permanently suspended must have been egregious enough that the Sitewide Administration wasn't willing to ignore it. Considering how he acted, I'm not surprised. It's gotta sting to lose access to 10 years of posts and comments though.

And if it sounds like I'm being judgmental of him, just know he behaved much worse with multiple people besides me. You reap what you sow: He chose to be a smug asshole, and paid the price for it. The world is better off without him.

My overall point is I'm tired of these types of people. I'm tired of people like Dash who frame themselves as outcasts who are better than the popular crowd, and then reveal themselves to be just as heinous as the people they criticize. I'm tired of seeing people on the Left, who claim to be against injustices and bigotry, engage in the same level of hatred they condemn the Alt-Right for. I'm tired of people who claim to fight for my rights, but would gleefully turn on me in a heartbeat and throw me to the wolves the moment I said or did something that constituted "stepping out of line" in their eyes. I'm tired of people who talk a big game about caring for other people's self-esteem, but will bully others when it's convenient for them (looking at the Hughie Campbell Stan who is still active on this hellsite). I'm tired of seeing people who put on a big show of advocating for social causes, and then use their political ideologies and philosophies to justify being cruel and contemptuous to others. I'm tired of seeing people act like bigots and then trying to pretend they aren't doing that.

I'm not going to claim I'm a paragon of virtue when it comes to doing things right. I've had my moments of being unkind. I've said things before that I look back on with regret and wish I hadn't said. I've acted in ways I'm not proud of. I am not even going to say I'm the most intelligent person on this site. For all of my flaws though, I am consciously making an effort to be better than I was before.

The roughest thing I've seen so far as I've gotten older, aside from people looking for any excuse to be nasty to others because reasons, is how we as a culture have started defining others in extremes, or love digging up other people's history and then flinging it at them as if to say "This is who you are," like there's no way to change it and you will forever be defined by it.

This post put it best: We are so obsessed these days with "gold-star activism" and "purity culture" and looking like the smartest person in the room that a lot of us have abandoned empathy and compassion and refuse to acknowledge when other people grow and attempt to become a better person. There's a difference between someone who continues to behave badly (which is why I am calling out people like u/Daze_Confuse, the Hughie Campbell stan, the homophobic Reddit troll who is unfortunately still active and engaging in the same behavior from years ago, and the users who responded to the post I linked to earlier who justify being vicious to 12 year old boys) vs someone who recognizes that their behavior was bad and makes an effort to grow from it.

In one of the many conversations I've had with my friend @stillhidden, she told me something I haven't ever forgotten: Truly stupid people are the ones who think they're right about everything. They are people who are so calcified in their beliefs that they refuse to change them or consider the idea that they could be in the wrong, even if there's overwhelming evidence to show their thinking is flawed. They lack the self-awareness to realize how awful their behavior is, which leads them to falling down the pipeline of smug superiority, self-righteousness, and hypocrisy.

I see this as the biggest difference between Dash Montague and Steve Harrington: For all of his flaws, or even how he started out at the beginning of the show, Steve isn't stupid like he gets treated by some fans. He's someone who's willing to grow, own up to his actions, and learn from his mistakes. He's someone who's willing to change his thinking and perspective on things, and be the kind of ally and friend that other characters need. It's why I find it annoying whenever Steve-Antis come out of their caves to continue bringing up the same tiresome arguments about Steve's behavior in season 1 to say "THIS IS WHO HE REALLY IS" while ignoring any character development he had later on.

Dash, for all of his talk about being intelligent, is one of the dumbest characters in the series. It takes a special kind of stupidity to throw a friendship with one person (Robin) and a relationship with your girlfriend (Kate) into the trash because you think you know better, and act like your so-called intelligence gives you carte blanche to act however you want to.

If Dash continues behaving like this into adulthood, it's gonna be a rough ride for him, and there's a very real chance he will end up friendless, alone, and bitter. I know plenty of people out there on social media (Reddit, Twitter/X, Tumblr, TikTok, etc) who are still trudging through life with Dash's self-serving mentality, and I can 100% say from what I've seen that it's going poorly for them. They brought it on themselves.

#stranger things #stranger things rebel robin #robin buckley #dash montague #angela stranger things #steve harrington #tgh opinions #tgh reviews #homophobia #bullying #purity culture #lgbt+ books #lgbt+ media #nice guyism #u/Daze_Confuse

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