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thememerman · 28 days ago
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Yk what kills me about this. Obi-Wan really had every right to be just as angry at the clones as Kanan did. Yes he was older and he didn’t witness his master being murdered in front of him BY THE CLONES ANYWAY, but he lost literally every single one of his friends on the Council (aside from Yoda) to Order 66 and Palpatine. Order 66 almost killed him too. He heard Cody asking for confirmation of his death almost immediately after getting shot down. He had to kill members of the 501st just to survive Coruscant and change the signal being broadcasted out of the temple. And then he sees a clone for the first time in 10 years. The face that he first fought in the rain all those years ago on Kamino. The face of his Commander. The face of Anakin’s Captain. The face of every single clone that he’d fought side by side with for an entire war, the faces that he knew killed the closest people he had to a family. And what does Obi-Wan do? He does not ignore him, he does not show any signs of bitterness nor resentment. He gives him money. Maybe in doing so he silently thanks every single clone that ever died for him, maybe he sees a bit of himself in an old beaten down veteran who was once the face of goodness and hope and everything the Old Republic stood for, scavenging in the streets and just trying to survive. Perhaps for Obi-Wan, it’s getting to say goodbye to the friends he maybe never really knew why he lost. Or maybe it really was just Obi-Wan, for the billionth time, being so selfless and kind when almost nobody in his shoes could have done the same.
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sabugabr · 9 months ago
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Why the Clone problem in Star Wars animated media is also a Mandalorian problem, and why we have to talk about it (PART 1)
(If you like, you can read Part 2 right here!)
Yes, I’m talking about whitewashing. What a joy
Soo, I finally took my days off so I can properly sit and think this through. With The Bad Batch ending recently and with all the repercussions of it, I’ve been thinking about all of it a lot and I really needed to get this out of my system. You see, I’ve been seeing a lot of posts and discussions regarding the whitewashing of the characters of Bad Batch, and a lot of them would trace this issues way back to the clone troopers design in The Clone Wars animated series, and rightfully so. But actually, the problem goes way further than that, leading it’s way waaaay far to The Mandalorian series, and it’s the White Myth. To put it simply, it’s a systematized shit.
Before I start, I’d just like to leave a little apology for any broken english in this (very long, sorry about that) post, english is not my first language so I’m writing 80% of this with a Google Translate tab open. So without further ado...
PART 1 : THE MANDALORIANS
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1.1 STAR WARS AND SIGNS
So, first of all I’d like to talk a little about Semiotics. I study Visual Culture and Semiotics, and one of the first things you really have to set your mind to in semiotics is that everything produced by people will intrinsically contain and reflect cultural aspects (intended or not), and that might and will influence not only the way this thing is effectively produced but mainly how this thing will be perceived by others (and if those “others” belong or not to the culture in which this thing was produced will also have a huge impact). So basically, it’s impossible to consume something without attributing cultural meanings to it, or without making cultural associations. That’s just the way we are programmed to perceive the world. And there’s a concept in semiotics called “sign” — “A sign is anything that represents something in order to create any effect” (Charles Peirce).
And that’s something Star Wars uses generously. The primal core to the Star Wars concept is to take something widely known and culturally grounded (such as arturian knights, monks, cowboys, etc etc) and put it on a spaceship. Luke’s story is very palatable and very relatable to us because it’s a narrative that we, as an ocidental culture, are very familiar with. The Hero’s Journey and all that.  Don’t get me wrong, literally everything we consume is made of signs, as I said before, it's something intrinsic. The thing is that Star Wars often does it purposefully, and masterfully. And not only on the narrative aspect, but on the visual aspect as well. 
Take Han Solo for example. Everything, from his characterization (the vest) to his accent (HIS ACCENT) to his VERY FIRST SCENE (a pistol duel, for God’s sake) is made for us to look at him and immediately see a cowboy (if, of course, we are culturally familiar with cowboys). 
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Just the same, is very easy to look at Padmé and recognize a festival of historical influences in her wardrobe, from Mongolian Khalkha people’s traditional wear to Renaissance fashion (and yes that definitely can be problematized but that’s another story). And so it goes, you can find hundreds of articles on the internet about it, if you’re interested (Padmé’s concepts are truly interesting, I highly recommend checking those if you haven’t already). 
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All those are very well-known inspirations, consciously made. Now what does it have to do with the mandalorians? Pretty much everything. 
1.2 JANGO AND BOBA FETT
You see, the very first contact that we had with what would later be widely known as “mandalorians” (even though this term was never used in the actual films, but actually appeared in The Empire Strikes Back concept sketchbook) was through, of course, Boba Fett in the Empire. And then the fandalorians were born, we all know the story. 
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BUT YOU SEE THE THING IS even though he was at that time played by a british actor (Jeremy Bulloch), as were all the “bad guys” in the original trilogy, we never actually see his face, and almost never hear his voice. 
So, narratively speaking, the only way we can imagine Boba’s face is when years later, our love Temuera Morrison enters the picture in the prequels. Thanks to Attack of the Clones, we were all to know that Boba was in fact a clone of Jango Fett, someone who all of us, and literally ALL of us, assumed to be mandalorian. Even if that was the original intention of George Lucas, we as an audience could never have known that he had actually stolen a mandalorian armor (as it was then told in The Clone Wars — more on that later). And, honestly, the author is dead, and even Dave Filoni admits ( in this mini doc here that I used to make this post) that he also always presumed Jango and Boba to be mandalorians. Therefore, they shaped our idea of who mandalorians were and how they looked like. 
Even though the term “mandalorian” is never used, as Jango and Boba have distinct armor and shape from the other species and organizations that we see in the movies, is very easy to understand that they come from another culture, so much that it took me a long time to understand that Boba’s armor was actually Jango’s — I just assumed they were similar because they were from the same culture. And as all of us know, Temuera is a polynesian actor and comes from the Māori people. Even if a person doesn't know that, is not hard to perceive that he is not white.
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He’s just so beautiful. 
1.3 MAKE A FANTASY WORLD, MAKE THEM WHITE
The thing about media that take place in sci-fi, fantasy worlds with various species and different cultures and peoples is that we are inclined to quickly associate things like phenotypes as a determinant while defining these species, cultures and peoples — Like costume in medieval series or movies that depict different kindgoms, for example. This might seem random but it’s an easy way to understand what I’m talking about. It’s easier for the audience to distinguish one “kingdom” from the other if the people are visually very different, like in Game of Thrones. If you pay attention at the beggining of the series every house and “region” had very distinct fashion tendencies that went way beyond the house’s coat of arms: the gowns were all cutted very differently, the colours and embroidery were unmistakable and the hair styles also differed a lot. 
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When we are talking about white people, that’s what is usually done. But back to Star Wars. 
When in these fantasy universes, however, we come across a character that is the only representant of the culture they are presumably part of, and especially if this character is portrayed by a non-white actor, we might end up presuming that all their people will have the same phenotypes as this actor. That is a separeted issue. But besides that, as in the media we have a HUGE imbalance regarding white actors and non-white actos in screen, there are some expectations that come along when you cast a non-white person to a culturally representative role. As POC roles are a minority, we expect to have more of it, right? So I think is fair to say that a lot of us expected other mandalorians to look like Jango, and therefore, to look like Temuera Morrison — in a way, likely how we expect all imperials to sound brittish. 
And then FINALLY we get to Clone Wars. Because in the season 2 of CW, when for the first time we got a depiction of Mandalore, and mandalorians (now with the full use of the term), what I said above was not the case. Contrariwise, what we saw in Mandalore was a whole parade of incredibly white people. 
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I mean, WHAT THE HELL KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK you see, they are not even “plurally” white (I’m not sure if this term exists, pardon me), no. They all, with no exception, have the same pale skin, light blond hair and even lighter blue eyes. And I know that when we do 3D animation, there really are several limitations regarding the quantity of models we can do in shorts amounts of time (as it must have been the case of CW, being an ongoing series), but this was actually made on blatant purpose. In that same doc I linked earlier, Dave Filoni talks about how he gave them a “very nordic flavour”.  
Later, he and some guys from the creative team of CW go on about what was their concept for the mandalorian civilization and the way they describe it, is that they are a “warrior race”. This is a very important point of the mandalorians, that they are a people of very proud and very deadly warriors, an ideia that comes way back from the Empire sketchs, when George Lucas inteded the Mandalorian armor to be a supercommando armor.
As you can check in the video, they describe Mandalore as how it’s a very racional culture, a very advanced one, industrial and standardized. At one point, they even use terms like “ethereal” and “angelical” to talk about their design choices. They said that in order to make Boba’s design seem unique in comparison, they created a people that would look like an organized army. 
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And the planet is all worked up on glass and shades of ice colour and some greens here and there, because of course it is. 
And when they added that to the mandalorian concept of have being incledible warriors, feared all across the galaxy, with multiple plural clans that would fight each other so much that the surface of the planet itself started to wear out, apparently they thought of vikings. They created a narrative that encompassed the duality in conciliate very violent past ways and history with the idea of a modern, peaceful, advanced society. A perfect parallel, you see, with the Nordic countries, with their viking violent past and their modern present, as they are considered to be indeed very modern, advanced societies. AND THAT WOULD BE PERFECTLY FINE if it wasn’t for Temuera Morrisson, Bodie Taylor, and Daniel Logan.
While talking about it, Dave Filoni, Inc said that rather than relying on Jango and Boba personally, they instead took inspiration for a single piece in Boba’s armor, and based SOLELY on that, they came up with the shapes and structures for Mandalore and it’s culture. 
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It’s the diamond hexagonal shaped piece in the center of his chest plate. That’s Mandalore. They called it “reverse engineering”. 
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See? Design.
And that’s where the whitewashing gets really blatant to me. Because, as I said earlier, even if it was all whitin George’s idea, the author is dead, and to me this idea that “oh, instead of using the characther’s actor as a base to create from, we used this one generic piece in his armor, and then we made them all white” sinks really really badly. 
Because they didn’t have to make the mandalorians look nordic for them to be representative of a big warrior people. 
1.4 THE MAORI CULTURE
This association with the vikings is an incredibly ocidental and incredibly white one, and very erasing of the Māori culture, New Zealand history and honestly, existence. Look, I am not by any means an expert in polynesian cultures, and this is not a historical informative post in this matter, so I went to Te Ara: The Encyclopedia of New Zealand and NZHistory to inform myself. So instead of running the risk of saying some inaccurate nonsence with no reliable source, I’ll quote some of their articles and the correspondents links and references will be found at the end of this post, because I am an academic and if I don’t do this I won’t be able to sleep at night. 
According to NZHistory, one of the most well-known sources of information regarding the Māori culture is the works of James Cowan (1870–1943), who “wrote more than 30 books and hundreds of articles on New Zealand history, Māori ethnography and travel [...] and did much to shape the way New Zealanders viewed their past” [1], and his view influenced a lot of how we perceive this culture. One of those is the idea that they were savage warriors (that’s colonialism happening right here). Warfare was very important to their society, yes, but not in the way we can see them being representated or talked about (at some extents, as a modern racial stereotype — more on that later) According to the Te Ara,   
“Much of traditional Māori society was based on warfare and weaponry. It was the ambition of every Māori warrior to die in battle, and warriors’ upbringing conditioned them to be experts in weaponry and skilled in the strategies of war. [...]
‘Even children’s games were often orientated towards warfare. Running, jumping, diving, stone throwing, climbing, boxing, wrestling and more elaborate stick-throwing and parrying games improved children’s motor skills for the inevitability of battle. Young men were taught chants and incantations such as the hoa rākau and mata rākau, to make warriors fleet-footed or cause a weapon to be extremely deadly. With this upbringing young men entered the para whakawai (school of traditional weaponry), where they were instructed in the arts of mau rākau (the use of weaponry). ” [2]
So only with that we can already cut the association warrior, military well organized and educated culture = blond vikings. The thing is that we still don’t have much representation of  Māori, so we know very little about them (as we I mean we, the world, etc, you got the idea). And it falls very short to me why the CW creative team looked at this characther, played by a Māori New Zealander, and thought, “hum, no, not really fitting for the modern advanced society parallel we’re making here”. Like, really, why did they have to be white? Still according to the Te Ara, 
“One common stereotype was of the Māori as unable to cope with the demands of the modern urban way of life. In the early 20th century, James Cowan, reflecting the romanticism of the painter Charles Goldie, preferred the ‘blanketted tattoo-spiralled old warrior’ to the modern Māori, ‘who as often as not wears tailor-made clothes of the latest pattern and whirls to the races in a motor-car’.1
As increasing numbers of Māori moved to the city in the years after the Second World War, views about Māori inability to deal with the demands of an urban capitalist life resurfaced. There were several elements to this:
the view that Māori were easily captured by the bright lights and consumer delights of the city, and wasted their money on gambling and drinking and flashy clothes
the idea that Māori did not understand the moral principles of financial responsibility and were inclined to favour friends and family
the stereotype of Māori as lazy, slovenly and inefficient, and not able to cope with the strict time demands of the capitalist world.
In many respects these images were an updating of the old polygenist view that Māori were inherently uncivilised and would soon revert to the ‘call of the pah’. [3]
Yeah, let that info sink a little.
1.5 OK BACK TO MANDALORIANS
So, let it be very clear that I’m not saying that Dave Filoni Inc had all of that in mind while doing the mandalorian concepts, far from that. I actually really doubt that they were even remotely aware of any issue of the kind. But they are all white man after all, and I believe that they genuinely just thought it would make a lot of sense if mandalorians looked like vikings. It would be just so cool, you know? Space vikings. Anyway. 
And that’s why visual culture studies matter so much, because we as a society and as an audience, have a lot of pre concepts and socially constructed assumptions about what we believe is media, and what we believe to be established truths. Take for example another excerpt of the infamous doc. At one point, the lead designer Kilian Plunkett is talking about the character Pre Vizla 
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This guy ^
And he describes him, and I am literally quoting, using this words: 
“What’s interesting about him is because he is so square-jawed and so blond he almost, at first glance, would appear to be a more typical heroic figure, you know, he just has that sort of classic blond, ‘good guy’ look but he is actually pretty nasty”. 
I mean... I know this is an early 2000′s show and all that, but still, really? And that misconception is not exclusively theirs, is something we all share as an ocidental colonialized society, because we were taught so. You know who else has a square jaw and is blond? 
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This guy 
You know who else? 
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This guy! And he is also viking- inspired! (sarcasm)
But seriously, this is a serious association issue we still perpetuate, even nowadays, and even without noticing. Once again, we were taught so. And these ideals resonate a lot in the Clone Wars series, intentionally or not. In a moment at the beginning of the Mandalorian Arc in season 2, Obi-Wan travelled there because of reasons and he happened to mention Jango Fett to this Prime Minister Almec guy
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Remember him? Curiously he also looks evil. Honestly I find it hard to understand mister Kumplett’s concept of heroic blond guy, Almec and Vizla both look pretty nasty to me. Maybe I don’t get it because I’m latina, that must be it. ANYWAY
In this scene, Almec gets pretty offended when Obi-Wan calls Jango a mandalorian, and he promptly states that Jango is not a mandalorian, but actually a bounty-hunter who had actually STOLEN a madalorian armor, and he looks pretty disgusted by it. When talking about this scene, Filoni explained it by saying that, for a mandalorian, their armor is their identity, and that would be the reason why Almec looked so huffy about this subject. In clearer words, Filoni pretty much pulled the cultural apropriation card there. 
That was later kinda retconned by The Mandalorian, where it was stated that Jango was actually a foundling like Mando (and yes, is not stretch to far to note that the two non-white mandalorians we have in live action Star Wars medias were actually “adopted” by the cool white guys), but that stolen armor narrative remained for years in the Star Wars canon, and objectively speaking, it was a narrative about a non-white guy stealing and appropriating this very important and meaningful element of the white guy’s culture, and using it to go wandering around the galaxy doing crime and selling his genetic material. It didn’t age well. 
And I find it to be even worse when we watch Attack of the Clones with that in mind, especially because of this scene: 
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Once again, have in mind that Jango and Boba were portrayed by New Zealander actors. I don’t think I need to explain it. 
Just as in the armor piece plea, they again managed to make it about the armor while erasing the person within it. 
1.6 IN CONCLUSION
Hahahaha boy that ended up being pretty long
But really, I just needed to get this all out since we are all getting ready for the Mandalorian season 3 and thankfuly this whitewashing debate in Star Wars got pretty strong due to Bad Batch (and I hope to rightly cover that in the Part 2 of this little rant). This is a serious issue, and I feel like we don’t talk about it enough. Because, seriously, why are they white? Why when they thought of a “advanced” society, they thought of sterile industrial cities filled with white blond people? When they thought of a “grandious warrior past”, why did they just thought of the Vikings, and not of the Mayans, or of the Tu'i Tonga Empire, or so so many others? Why didn’t they consider all this huge, brilliant civilizations like the Aztec city of Tenochtitlán, that not only was filled with palaces but had a complex hydraulic engineering system and an aqueduct (the Chapultepec) that, with two complex pipes, would clean the water that supplied the city. All way before the european invasion. Why even after having an established indigenous actor playing this role, they went so far to erase it?
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(spoiler: colonialism. The answer is colonialism)
So anyway, I really hope we get to see some changes in the way LucasFilms has been handling their cultural inspirations and representations, because at the end, it only makes a poor excuse for whitewashing, and the perpetuation of colonialist ideas. We did have great non-white representation in the first 2 seasons of mando, all in major roles, and adding that to the perspective of seing a (properly) non-white Sabine in her live action debut, I pray we see that happening in the future animated series as well.
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SOURCES USED IN THIS:
[1]  'James Cowan', URL: https://nzhistory.govt.nz/people/james-cowan, (Ministry for Culture and Heritage), updated 8-Nov-2017 ( accessed 11 September 2021)
[2] Rangi Matamua, 'Mau rākau – Māori use of weaponry - Weapons training', Te Ara - the Encyclopedia of New Zealand, http://www.TeAra.govt.nz/en/mau-rakau-maori-use-of-weaponry/page-1 (accessed 11 September 2021)
[3]  James Belich, 'European ideas about Māori - Modern racial stereotypes', Te Ara - the Encyclopedia of New Zealand, http://www.TeAra.govt.nz/en/european-ideas-about-maori/page-6 (accessed 11 September 2021)
I only used a few articles, but both these sites are truly amazing data bases, so I highly recommend you giving it a look!
Anyways, thanks for reading!!! 
                                                                PART 2 (IT GETS WORSE) >
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withasideofkenobi · 6 months ago
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not me having a crush on this dumbass
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JUST LOOK AT HIM
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kat-lamp · 3 months ago
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UH
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UHHHHH
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I swear if Disney ends up giving us some weird sequel era animated show again I’m going to go feral.
The way that Kevin Kiner spoke about it on the timeline of production, it would obviously come out after the Ahsoka show, so Rebels Sequel perhaps!!!!
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monjustmon · 9 months ago
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NOBODY told me there was Funko Pop Star Wars animations and honestly HOW DARE U GUYS
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It's so goddamn cute?? And I think there are shorts for each Star Wars Era?!?!
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And its, you know, still so goddamn dramatic?!?!
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These funkos get in trouble!!!
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But I could die, SO ANGY, SO ADORABLE
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And they make for some great reaction gifs tbh
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High five!! But especially this moment:
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I guess it means to be "I'm here, what you gonna do" but it works so well for so many things!?!
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Just...
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IT'S SO IN CHARACTER, ALL OF IT!!
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I cannot put any more but I LOVE THIS. It's a shame most of it is promo material. I would do anything for more of this and more of Galaxy of Adventures, tbh. Animated Star Wars is BAMF.
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imconfusedallthetimehelp · a year ago
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He s n a p p e d
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This man didn't have to go that hard. But he did.
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means1974 · a year ago
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Star Wars: The Bad Batch by @Cakes_Comics.
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randomlothcat · a year ago
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Spoiler for new episode of bad batch
No BaNe wHy
DoNt HuRt HeR
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darthsilliness · 10 months ago
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New Star Wars trailer!
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isagrimorie · a year ago
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AHSOKA
A good summary video about Ahsoka Tano, for The Mandalorian fans who are meeting Ahsoka for the first time. 
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r2danger2 · 2 years ago
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Watching Star Wars Rebels Vader is wild because in the movies he's presented as the big baddie but in Rebels it's literally like Anakin but just with the mask on. He acts like clone wars Anakin. He fights like clone wars Anakin. I alternately laugh and yell every time he's on screen
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thememerman · 7 months ago
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I wish I could say I’m sorry for this but I’m not
To celebrate 501 followers on Tumblr (I technically surpassed 501 followers several days ago but OH WELL) I decided to do a 501st themed post for my mini Clones + Office quote series!! The altered quote popped into my head a couple weeks ago and I scrambled to put it in my notes app at like 2am sksjdjshs please enjoy the glimpse to the inside of my brain
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sabugabr · 10 months ago
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Ok, so I did some editing..... bc LucasFilms literally made me so frustrated that I not only entered the editing business (?) but also created a tumblr very happy to be here
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kijet-studios · 2 years ago
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Easter Eggs You Missed In The Rise Of Skywalker
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Here's the extended sneak peak for Star Wars : Resistance! We get a better glimpse of Poe and Phasma returning alongside a cast of new characters.
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oldschoolfrp · a year ago
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The Akira bike slide and every animation ever made since the 1988/1990 film releases
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galaxyvoidcreature · 5 months ago
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i have decided i just want to be a robot now that’s what i desire in life
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aq2003 · a month ago
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obi-wan 99 problems amv
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curioscurio · 7 months ago
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run over villagers in my 2001 honda civic i must
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