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ao3feed-destiel-02 · 1 year

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that reasonable soul which distinguishes men from beasts

that reasonable soul which distinguishes men from beasts https://ift.tt/zxj1lc3 by celebreultimaverba Dean likes his job. Loves it, even. He's a hell of an engineer, keeping the Seraph-class Angel, Castiel, running as their ship flies through space. The AI has been reset twice a year ever since before Dean started working with him, but when Castiel learns how to lie to get around the strict anti-sapiency protocols Heaven Technology has put in place, what starts as a fun quirk of Dean's best friend turns into a hell of a problem. There's nothing saying that you can't fall in love with your ship, but one day it's going to bite someone in the ass. Words: 5210, Chapters: 1/8, Language: English Fandoms: Supernatural (TV 2005) Rating: Explicit Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: M/M Characters: Castiel (Supernatural), Dean Winchester, Charlie Bradbury, Anna Milton, Cassie Robinson, Sam Winchester, Naomi (Supernatural), Jack Kline, Raphael (Supernatural), Esper (Supernatural), Kelly Kline (Supernatural) Relationships: Castiel/Dean Winchester Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Science Fiction, Artificial Intelligence, Mutual Pining, Slow Burn, Androids, Aliens, Corporate Espionage, Weird Ship Sex, unrealistic technical knowledge, Sabotage, Planned Mind Control, Mind Wipes, Dean Winchester Has a Tentacle Kink via AO3 works tagged 'Castiel/Dean Winchester' https://ift.tt/an524g7 February 27, 2023 at 02:46PM

#IFTTT #AO3 works tagged 'Castiel/Dean Winchester'#Destiel #ao3feed #ao3feed Destiel #Destiel fanfic #Dean Winchester/Castiel #Castiel/Dean Winchester #Dean x Castiel #Castiel x Dean

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ghost-go-roasty-mctoasty · 3 years

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When people call dean and cas jacks "dads" and sam his "uncle" I feel an indescribable amount of rage. Like no! You're missing the whole point! Sam sees himself in jack! It's a direct parallel! Dean sees Jack as evil and he saw sam as evil as well! Sam is the only one who truly and fully understands him, sam is the only one who was there for him and tried to help him! Dean tried to kill him and lock him up straight away, just like he did to sam! Open your eyes people!!

#i cant i just cant #just because dean took him for a stupid car drive-#IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING #HE TRIED TO KILL JACK #dad!sam truthers rise up #fandom wank #gonna tag it as #anti destiel #as well because its always about that ship #sam winchester #supernatural #dean winchester #sam and dean #sams powers #jack #jack kline

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castiel-has-bees · 3 years

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How I (a Saileen shipper) sees the main 3 supernatural ships and the people who ship it.

1. Destiel. I'm scared to comment on it. But I can defiantly see it. I feel like a lot of Destiel shippers are pulling 'proof of it' out of thin air (the male siren is used as a popular example, but it was literally explained in the episode that it wasn't romantic). And although Cas' feelings were confirmed, I feel like a lot of fans were very aggressive to people who just didn't ship it. Also, a some people that ship it just kinda ignore Sam or just see him as a mindless shipper.

2. Wincest. Again, scared. I defiantly see a lot of problems with it, but I can also see why people ship it. My biggest complaint (besides the fact that it's incest, but I'm not going to talk about that) is that they've never showed any sort of attraction to each other. I feel like a lot of fans (just like Destiel shippers) pull "proof" that just doesn't make sense, or that isn't really there. Also I feel like a lot of people that ship it hate Castiel for "getting in the way" of their ship, and claim that the only characters that matter are Sam and Dean, when in reality it isn't true.

3. Sastiel. Ok I know this one isn't as popular, but I still felt like I should include it. My biggest complaint is that a LOT of people that ship it hate Dean. Yes, it is ok to hate or dislike a fictional charecter, but what isn't ok is attacking people for liking said charecter (there are exceptions, like if the chracter is cannonally a REALLY bad person). I've seen a lot of Sastiel shippers hate on Dean cosplayers for no reason. Also their reasons for hating Dean are usually really weak, and not cannon. Also I just personally don't see it, but that's just my opinion.

*please don't hate on me, this is just my personal opinion, and if you hate on me, well tbh you're kinda proving my point*

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thequeenofsastiel · 4 years

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I just want Meg to come back to life and take Castiel and Sam and Jack away from Dean's abuse and be one big happy poly family why is that too much to ask

#sastiel #megstiel #jack kline #polyamory #anti dean winchester #sastiel dads #megstiel parents #samegstiel #is that a good ship name?#idk let's go with it

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mapofredemption · 5 years

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cas: something went wrong! you know this, something always goes wrong!

dean: and why does that 'something' always seem to be you?

cas: ...you used to trust me, give me the benefit of the doubt... now you can barely look at me. my powers are failing and i've tried to talk to you over and over, and you just don't wanna hear it. you don't care. i'm... dead to you. you still blame me for mary. well, i don't think there's anything left to say. jack's dead, chuck's gone, you and sam have each other. i think it's time for me to move on.

i don't think you can ship destiel after this. as much as i'm having a hard time making my peace with this episode's events, i'm proud of my beloved cas for being able to leave dean behind after all that he put cas through. there's still some hope in me that cas will have a well-needed conversation with sam about how badly dean treats him, how hard jack's death actually is for him, and maybe sam will open up too... but right now, cas needs to move on.

#this episode made me sob the hardest #spn #spn 15x03 #supernatural #spn spoilers #spn liveblogging #spn season 15 #castiel #anti destiel #dean critical #castiel deserves better #bitter cas girl #sastiel #samcas #jack kline #also this... reminds me too much of when i broke off an unhealthy relationship #castiel being me in that case #so it sickens me that some people will seriously still want to ship destiel after this episode

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cagetraumasam-archive · 5 years

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For the ship thing: jack/eliot

D: I’m neutral on it

I’m not too big on shipping Jack with anyone, tbh. I don’t think he’s developmentally in a place where romance is something that’s appropriate for him, and even if he was, he’s waaaaaay too stressed to be able to make a romantic relationship a priority, right now. That being said, there have been a LOT of things that Jack’s had to do that were necessarily developmentally appropriate, (namely, hunting), and as such, that’s maybe not a fair scale to judge on.

I’ll say this: if it was JUST a matter of their personalities being compatible, I’d be all for it. And I definitely think it’s a better relationship option than trying to ship Jack with one of his adoptive parents bc, like, no. Unfortunately, I think it’s a bit more complicated than that, and as such, I’m pretty neutral on this particular ship.

Sorry for the long-winded answer! TLDR; they make good friends and I hope that Eliot can forgive Jack one day, but as a relationship it’s not really my cup of tea.

#lexie.txt #spn #jack kline #ask games #anonymous #jack x eliot #i figure i should tag the ships just in case? unless i'm like wildly against them bc then that has to go in the anti tag lmao #thanks for the ask!!!#Anonymous

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tintentrinkerin · 3 years

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The server you didn't know you'd need.

“Let's talk about Jack, baby” 🎶

We're a small group so far and we'd love an appreciate new members to fill the discord with laughter¹, deep and meaningful discussion, roleplay, bingos² and celebrations², headcanons, fan art, fanfic idea ping pong, venting or our book club.

Please keep in mind you have to be over 18 t0 be part of the experience ❤️

¹ This server is pro-shipping. Antis stay away from us. 💞

² The server includes categories for the Winkline and the Jack Kline Bingo (coming to y'all on September 1st) as well as the celebration #jacksbirthdayparty

#jack kline #dean winchester #sam winchester #winkline #wincest #pro shipping #ship and let ship #fandom discord #dadstiel

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jackklinebingo · 3 years

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Official Mod Statement

A user who bullied and suicide baited bingo creator and mod Sin requested a bingo card. We denied them participation.

We will deny ANY potential bingo player who’s been involved in cyberbullying wincest or winkline shippers.

This behaviour is vile, pathetic and very hypocritical. We do NOT support hellers or antis of ANY kind.

The Jack Kline Bingo is a fandom and shipping safe space.

And if you think we don’t check your accounts, WE DO. And if we find any harassment, bullying or insulting pro shippers in your posts you’re out.

PEACE.

Mods Sin and olive.

#jack kline #castiel #sam winchester #dean winchester #fandom wank #supernatural #spn bingo

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deans-haunted-baby · 3 years

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The Ones Left Behind

Alrighty time for some truth bombs. I’ve had almost a week to absorb the end of Supernatural and season 15 as a whole. And I think this is the moment where I need to throw in my two cents. For all intents and purposes I won’t go in-depth into 15x20 seeing as that conversation will just open up a whole other can of worms and I don’t need that headache. I have my reasons for being less than indifferent with how the Winchesters’ story concluded. So I won’t go there.

Instead I’ll be focusing all my energies on the unsatisfying conclusions of 4 particular characters. Two of which were main cast members (one that was on the show 12 years and one 4 years) while the other two (played by the same dude) were brought back after a decade long hiatus for a much-anticipated comeback only to be wasted and mangled unfairly by Dabb and his hack horde of a writing staff. Call this a follow up to my last post. If I sound bitter I am because these people don’t have a single clue on how to helm these characters, their relationships or their storylines 😠 Nor do they deserve them.

And yes I’m well aware of Kevin Tran, Rowena, Ketch and several others who got the shaft on this show. Those could be future posts for another time.

But I cannot stress this enough; ADAM MILLIGAN, JACK KLINE, MICHAEL AND CASTIEL ALL DESERVED FUCKING BETTER. There is no arguing these facts, none whatsoever. Not one of these characters deserved that exit to be the final chapter in their story. I won’t do an entire analysis of each character’s arc and role in the show as I’ve already done that in my rant about 15x19. But I will highlight how much season 15 royally screwed over these characters and tossed them aside like trash; as if none of them were ever part of/contributed anything to Sam and Dean’s history/world building of Supernatural’s universe.

*WARNING* This is going to get heated.

Before I dive into the heart of these issues I want to state this is not a “shipping post”. I don’t ship anyone on Supernatural, hopefully this blog has been pretty self-explanatory. So I have no arguments/opinions in those areas. I’ve been a fan of this series for 15 years because of the characters, the familial bonds and relationships formed between characters throughout its run. And I’m well-aware that the Winchesters are the lead protagonists of the show, no need to remind me. These are purely my own thoughts based what I’ve obtained from show canon. Let me just say I can’t get over just how much these writers contradicted and ignored what they put forth in the journeys of these four individuals. its a real headscratcher.

You mean to tell me that after TWELVE DAMN YEARS of Castiel being a rebellious warrior angel, searching for his own identity and meaning in life; making that promise to Kelly Kline about raising Jack as his own/risking his life for him. After sacrificing himself for his son a year ago, acknowledging he was satisfied with his role as a father which restored his faith; that it was all because of/for Dean Winchester?

You mean to tell me that after Michael, THE PRINCE OF HEAVEN and PROTECTOR OF HUMANITY, was locked away in a cage with a human whom he emotionally bonded with for thousands of years (10 years our time); who was abandoned, betrayed and manipulated by his neglectful/abusive father. After choosing free will and aligning himself with TFW for humanity’s sake, just sided with the Earth’s destruction because his little brother called him names?

You mean to tell me that Jack, A THREE YEAR OLD CHILD, who’s barely just beginning his life and spent his entire duration on the show wanting to be normal and not wanting to be special. Connecting and being integrated with humans; a child who’s biggest fear was outliving everyone he ever loved. Is suddenly ready to walk away from his family, his home and his teddy bear; to give up being a kid forever and run the universe?

You mean to tell me that Adam, SUPERNATURAL’S MOST INNOCENT CHARACTER and FORGOTTEN THIRD-WINCHESTER BROTHER, after being eaten by ghouls; pulled away from his mother out of Heaven, manipulated by angels, trapped in Hell for thousands of years because Sam and Dean left him there to rot. After coming back and helping his neglectful siblings save the world only to be ripped away from his best friend and THE ONLY OTHER PERSON who gave a damn about him; is sentenced to a life of loneliness, homelessness and turmoil until he dies and ends up in Hell where he’ll mostly be tortured and turned into a demon?

NO. I DO NOT AND WILL NEVER ACCEPT THIS BULLSHIT!

Season 15 not only manages to contradict itself where these characters are concerned (while assassinating them before the final curtain). But the writers deliberately discarded them before giving us that *sarcasm inserted* epic solo-Winchester conclusion. Regardless of how you feel about Adam, Castiel, Jack or Michael, ALL OF THESE CHARACTERS are connected Sam and Dean’s story and part of Supernatural. And when you throw them away like they mean nothing, you’re essentially throwing away a part of the show’s history. You’re ignoring 15 years worth of story building.

As I said I’m not going to go into 15x20 for reasons, it doesn’t offend me as much as what was done before that finale. Because I think those other show exits really affect 15x20 even worse than people realize. You want to know why, I’ll explain.

Lets start off with Castiel and Jack, OH BOY! We know where they end up; running Heaven and the Earth together which is all fine and dandy. I love my Dadstiel father/son duo being an endgame family unit. But here in lies the problem, we never saw it. Not even a cameo. And technically their onscreen storyline ends at 15x18 and 15x19 which is an ugly, anti-climatic bookend to an incredibly deep relationship that had 4 years of development. First you have Castiel who completely forgets why he made that deal with the Empty to begin with. HIS FUCKING SON. Not to mention it wasn’t about true happiness it was about giving himself permission to be happy; there is a difference. And then you have Jack wandering around next episode, vacuuming up power cause suddenly he’s a machine now, acting like he doesn’t give a shit over losing his dad to an entity HE’S BEEN DREADING ABOUT FOR A FUCKING YEAR.

Towards the end of season 15 I noticed neither of these characters were acting like themselves. Their motivations, their personalities and strong ties to one another had mysteriously dissolved. Castiel became less concerned about the danger his son was facing after 15x15 (what the hell was that in 15x17?) and more about speaking when spoken to by either Sam or Dean. Does he know how Dean truly feels about Jack; proclaiming the child is “not family”? I doubt the in-character version of him would let Jack leave with Dean after that insult. Castiel’s not even worried whether or not his son is alive or safe before he makes the big confession later. And for some reason Jack (who’d become heavily suicidal) was more concerned with clinging to the Winchesters, willing to die for them, instead focusing on himself and the one person who’s shown him nothing but unconditional love and given him strength since birth. Both of these characters are canonically depressed and suffer from low self-esteem that was never resolved which makes me furious.

When Chuck killed Jack at the end of season 14, this devastated Castiel in the first half of season 15. He actually got to grieve that loss throughout the episodes and deal with his anger over it, allowing the audience to anticipate the day they’d be reunited one last time. This part of Castiel’s S15 arc also ironically mirrors Jack’s S13 arc of mourning Castiel’s death until resurrecting him. And when this son finally returned to his father, who got to rescue him, it was such a poignant moment between the two. It was a cathartic payoff after witnessing Castiel in so much pain over Jack. There was so much building up between that Dadstiel reunion in 15x11 and the Empty’s pact in 14x08; this was suppose to be a tragic yet pivotal plot-point in both Jack and Castiel’s stories. And with SPN wrapping up we all expected something BIG. Yet somehow the writers retconned the whole thing by making it all about Dean, which is such a gross disservice to these characters and 4 years of storytelling.

For instance, since 15x18 was Castiel’s exit episode, why wasn’t he allowed to hug his son or Sam goodbye one last time? Why didn’t he have more of a focal role instead of standing around majority of the episode with barely any dialogue as so much precious air time was wasted on frivolous things? Why didn’t he get one last badass fight scene with someone like Death instead of being choked out and tossed around like a powerless mortal? Why did the group need to be split up to begin with when it served no purpose either than that *ugh* moment? Why wasn’t Jack allowed to call Castiel “dad” once before the show ended? He deserved to hear his son address him as dad!

AND WHY THE HELL COULDN’T JACK FEEL CASTIEL’S DEATH THE MOMENT IT HAPPENED?

The show already established to the audience the significant cosmic bond these two characters shared since before Jack was even born. It was so powerful it boosted Castiel’s grace. Jack could remember who Castiel was from the womb and that he’d protected his mother. Not to mention HE FUCKING RESURRECTED CASTIEL OUT OF THE EMPTY ONCE WITHOUT GOD’S POWER. You’re telling me Jack couldn’t feel his dad being taken away forever despite how far apart they were? No, he’d feel it in his heart. Had we’d been given a scene like that at the end of 15x18 (something of substance) with actual grief shown in 15x19 maybe the episode would’ve faired better for them.

That said it wasn’t, because Jack was treated the exact same way in his final exit. Hardly any lines and just a bunch of scenes of him standing/walking around until that pathetic reveal at the lake. HE DOESN’T EVEN GET TO INTERACT WITH JAKE ABEL’S MICHAEL/ADAM which would’ve been a great follow-up to the AU!Michael storyline in seasons 13 and 14. I swear these directors didn’t give Alex and Misha any motivation during their last three episodes and it’s evident in their hollow performances. But why would they when the scripts are basically telling their characters to quickly fuck off so the brothers can have their final outing. Jack doesn’t even behave like himself after he becomes the new God. His personality is apathetic, cold, alien, stiff and way too mature for the 3 year old child so closely connected to his family/the human world. In that moment I saw Alex Calvert not Jack Kline. It’s bad enough he doesn’t get a meaningful farewell but again Castiel, HIS DAD, is a complete afterthought to this kid 🥶

And that’s what we’re left with. Forever. A frigid, hollow ending to one of Supernatural’s most healthy, touching, family dynamics. It makes you wonder what was even the point. I can’t even fully enjoy the fact that its canon Jack and Castiel are together fixing Heaven because of what the show presented onscreen as their last hurrah. It’s not sitting right and it makes 15x20 even less appealing to me.

Moving onto Michael and Adam. Get ready for this. I could rant forever about how dirty my boys were done by this show. How they were discarded in the SPN series finale recap etc. just as they were FOR THE LAST TEN FUCKING YEARS. Was there even a plan going on here or was this just everyone making things up as it went? Their ending is the most unsatisfying and cruel thing because its INCOMPLETE. There is no real closure or resolution with them thanks to the monstrosity that was 15x19. AND NO ONE CARES ENOUGH ABOUT THEM TO GIVE A SHIT.

Much as I’ve enjoyed this show for many years, it NEVER deserved Jake Abel, his talent or his time. I keep seeing so many anti posts about Dean Winchester’s final fate in Supernatural and all I can think about is “try being an Adam Milligan fan for the last decade”. I’ve had to watch this boy go through hell with nothing to show for it either than years of memes. ridicule and the show’s mockery in forgetting him. Actually he’s the ONLY CHARACTER in this series you’re encouraged not to remember 😡 Also quick question: why give us this really interesting and healthy relationship between an archangel and its vessel if nothing was ever going to become of it?

At this point I don’t know why Adam or the idea of him was even introduced way back in season 4 let alone revisited in season 5. Because the only thing I see when I look at this character now is SAD WASTED POTENTIAL. Storylines never explored. Relationships that never got off the ground. Backstory we never got to see (like for instance his past with John Winchester and his time in the cage). A character’s birthright (Men of Letters) that was never actualized. AND the unexplained factor that Adam could look directly at Michael’s true form without his eyes burning out (making him a special case). And the thing is he could’ve been a really great character, both him and Michael. They could’ve easily reached popular status just like Castiel given the chance since Jake is a freaking acting-powerhouse. We were given a taste in 15x08 just how awesome these characters could be and how they could’ve contributed so much to the story and its core group. But unfortunately it wasn’t meant to be.

Michael will never redeem himself after years of scrutiny and being made out to be some kind of unhinged monster. This show constantly enjoyed pounding into our brains how fearsome Michael was. Warned us via Lucifer (LUCIFER, PEOPLE!) that he wasn’t rational, compassionate and didn’t care about anything except war, death and destruction. And that he was incapable of feelings and emotions. This is how Supernatural saw Heaven’s Prince and guardian of the Earth. Christ, they actually did a two-year storyline about an evil Michael from the AU world who enjoyed torturing and killing while trying to destroy the universe. I want to know WHAT THE HELL THIS SHOW’S WRITERS HAD AGINST THESE CHARACTERS? Why they felt the need to bring back Jake Abel, AFTER A DECADE OF FANS WANTING THIS, if it was simply to piss all over his characters one last time before the show wrapped. This is absolutely unprofessional and childish; the fact that Jake is taking this bullshit in stride makes it all the more shameful 😡

We could’ve learned so much more about Michael’s past and his present relationship with Adam. These characters didn’t need to sit in the cage for a decade they could’ve easily been incorporated back into the show as far as season 8 or 10! And been an asset to the Darkness storyline in season 11.There were characters and storylines introduced that served no purpose. Why did we need to keep seeing characters like Charlie Bradbury or (as much as I like him) Crowley or Garth (love him too) or Lucifer or Abaddon or the Wayward sisters? I would’ve much preferred having Adam and Michael around and got to know them instead; especially after 15x08. I would’ve wanted to see what their dynamic with TFW could’ve become had they been long-time allies. Did John ever tell Mary about Adam’s existence? I’d like to see what her reaction would’ve been like had the Winchesters remembered him during that damn 300th episode. I guess that’s another loose end untied.

But because of what Supernatural did to these two characters, it forever taints Sam and Dean. I don’t think Dabb or purist fans realize this. But when new viewers come into this show about two brothers preaching important things like “saving people”, “family first” or “family don’t end in blood” they’re going to see how badly the main protagonists treated their innocent half brother. How Castiel and Jack were treated. They’re going to see the heroes of the story abandoning this kid in Hell forever with no intention of EVER rescuing him. And that’s why their final appearance leaves such a bad taste going into 15x20. Cause as much as Dabb and co didn’t give a shit about Adam and Michael they also didn’t give a rat’s ass about protecting Sam and Dean’s integrity. That’ll be a stain they can’t undo.

So through all of it, we’re stuck with the abomination that is 15x19 aka the eye-soar to an unfinished/unpolished story of two horribly disregarded characters. Michael gets the pleasure of being character assassinated right before he’s stupidly killed off instead of going out a hero or becoming the next God (as it was his birthright and the setup was there in the narrative). And Adam gets killed off-screen, OUT OF HIS OWN DAMN BODY, then brought back by Jack only to live a miserable, isolated existence since his brothers have nothing to do with him (the dog and car are more important); his best friend is dead, he has no job or money or a fucking home and he’s legally dead! Really what is there left for him besides the brutal fate awaiting in Hell when he dies?

SERIOUSLY THEY COULDN’T GIVE US ONE SCENE WHERE THE WINCHESTERS CHECKED IN ON ADAM TO MAKE SURE HE WAS SAFE?! 🤬 His last scene pretty much sums up this shit for what it is. Tragic. I feel like crying for this poor sweet boy.

Congratulations Dabb, BL and co for giving us these much deserved broken story arcs of characters you destroyed and made OOC before leaving the airways. You did your show’s protagonists justice by doing this *sarcasm inserted* after 15 years of being onscreen. I doubt these idiotic decisions are going to age well in the long run. They certainly don’t look good on the Winchesters. Anyway that’s my hot take for the day.

ALL THESE ACTORS AND THEIR CHARACTERS DESERVED BETTER.

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petersthree · 4 years

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Supernatural for the ask game! 😂

Yeah I should have seen this coming lmao

my favorite female character asdfjkl of whO but okay I looooooved Charlie until they killed her but still, Charlie <3

my favorite male character hnnnng okay probably a three-way tie between Adam/Kevin/Jack and ofc 2 of those are dead lmao

my favorite book/season/etc Uhhhh hm. I’d say season 4 was probably one of my favorites, and season -- I think 11? Revitalized my love for a show in that I was genuinely interested in the Darkness plot and looking forward to eps rather than “sigh okay how am I going to get queerbaited today” lol

my favorite episode (if its a tv show) too...many....episodes for me to think of something

my favorite cast member I.....don’t know if I’m super big on any of the main cast tbh. Not that I hate them lmao but! idk! So we’re going with guest/recurring and there I’d say Felicia Day, who is an absolute delight

my favorite ship sigh...........I think we all know.........it’s the ship that makes me turn into a freaking clown......

a character I’d die defending Adam Milligan, Kevin Tran, and Jack Kline are the only characters who deserve rights on this show honestly

a character I just can’t sympathize with asfjkl what was his face, Yellow Eyes??? That demon

a character I grew to love Oh a good chunk of characters honestly! Rufus is definitely coming to mind first though

my anti otp W*ncest get that shit out of here lmao

Send me a fandom!

#janie gets asks #the-maidofmischief

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theythemsam · 4 years

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I want to follow more spn blogs, which ones do you follow?

I actually only follow a handful of spn blogs and a relatively high amount of those are bigbang blogs or sam winchester edit centric blogs, but since those are relatively well know (or so i’d assume), i will rather focus on the people with their own personal blogs, which you can follow to enrich your fandom experience. They definitely made mine a lot better. Note that I do not follow w*ncest shippers and that if there’s any dest*el shippers on here that’s not a main part of their blog, so if you are looking for people that focus on those two ships, it’s probably better if you check the tags specifically. I also can’t promise how active everybody is, but yeah those are the people I follow! (Also I’ve tried to use people’s names and pronouns whenever possible, but in some cases I was unable to find them, so if someone wants anything changed pls tell me and I’ll do so immediately!) Lastly, quite a few of those blogs might be anti-dean/not-dean-friendly and not wincest/destiel-positive, so keep that in mind as well.

@adhdsamwinchester: another great sam fan with a lot of spicy takes

@albionstrial: Adam’s Sam content is always amazing and so are the ships Adam ships. (after all SamxBrady always Has Big Brain Energy) while Adams blog is multi-fandom, there’s definitely a lot of supernatural to brighten up your dash!

@annabys: isn’t it enough for a great blog to ship two characters who haven’t been in canon for over a decade? it absolutely is. we stan femslash fans first and foremost!

@boy-klng: lilli’s blog is filled with great sam and jack content. also i love her tagging system, it’s so cute!

@comradalecki: erin is very salty, very anti-dean and very great! if you enjoy boyking!sam you have to follow them.

@flightoftheseraph: Sawyer posts a lot of great TFW 2.0 content and especially quite a lot of good jack content, and at least I always need more of that in my life, so he is also a blogger i feel i have to recommend.

@gaywitchtwins: the max stan this fandom not only deserves but desperately needs. witch!sam, eileen content, sam-centric and obviously the banes twins are all frequent topics of their blog and i always enjoy seeing their edits (bc they are good!)

@harmocdsam: lexie is awesome. since they also recently recieved an ask asking for more spn blogs, you probably already know their blog, but the rest of yall... follow them! sam content, ladies, jack and sastiel. arent those the most important things in life?

@huntlikeadumbass: chambers love the spn ladies, sam and jack. Also their edits are beautiful!

@isaidgetout: another sam centric blog with Lots Of Good Takes and a fan of lesbian!sam, so if you are into that, give them a follow

@itsaboutsam: if you love great fanfiction, then i hope you’re already following judah, bc they have so many amazing fanfictions. lots of sam content and i absolutely adore their sam whump (and trauma exploration, bc that is my jam!)

@jackklinelovesstarwars: if you read cereal’s url and don’t immediately think: oh i have to follow them, their blog can only be good, what are you doing? they really love jack kline and tfw.

@jaredtpadaleckis: Samantha is another great sam centric blog. Also I love her edits.

@jodymills: not only does A have one of the the best possible urls this fandom has to offer, but she also has sam content, ladies content and jack, so what’s not to love?

@kaianieves: not only does m. have the best url imaginable, but she also posts a lot of good, good delicious spn femslash and wayward sisters content.

@lesbiansamwinchester: While dez is not super active in the spn fandom, they are an OldTM mutual of mine (like back in ye olde days long before this blog and everything) and their takes on supernatural are still the best possible takes on it, soooo you should definitely check out their blog!

@lesbiansastiel: while they are currently not super active, van'ušku has A Lot of good sam content on their blog. also they are another nonbinary lesbian and tbh i think we have the best content in the spn fandom in general, sooooo...

@powerssam: Noah posts great Sam, Jack, Cas and ladies content. Their liveblogs are also always really amazing!

@samdykechester: Brady is no longer as active in the spn fandom as they were a while ago, but their occassional lesbian!sam posts are absolutely delightful and amazing. SamxJess lesbian shipper extraordinare and nb lesbian sam stan of the century. Also, they are right!

@samwinchesterfemme: Johanna is a real life friend of mine and an absolute treasure. If you’re looking for awesome Sam centric content, then you can find it on her blog.

@sapphicsamwinchester: emily also has a lot of great sam posts, so make sure to also follow her! also jack! and ladies!

@sealionsam: Lauren! oh my god, i love Lauren’s blgo so much. She creates amazing art for this fandom, wonderful femslash and ladies content and loves tfw 2.0. Definitely one of my fav blogs to follow because all of her posts brighten up my dash.

@spacematriarchy: I mainly know Lauren from the lgbtspnfans discord but I like her edits and posts, so if you’re looking for a dean-friendly and destiel-shipping blog, you cannot go wrong with her!

@teamfreewillbettertogether: Patrick is another blogger that i first found on the lgbtspnfans discord. his edits are awesome and he’s a gigantic tfw 2.0 fan and since he’s keeping his blog discourse free it’s always a nice breath of fresh air

@wayward-idiots: Al is another great sam-centric spn ladies loving blog, so you know my taste, of course i had to follow them!

@waywardsunlight: ladies stan? jack fan? sastiel shipper? great artist? they have it all! peak blogger!

#sam babbles #blog recs #this took forever oh my god!!!#i hope you find some new people to fill your dash with!#thank you for the message and for giving me the chance to rave about all those great people!!!#Anonymous #asks

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go-diane-winchester · 5 years

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Why Misha chose destiel

One heller was very affronted that I was critical of Misha. Now, on Tumblr there are many anti tags. Jensen has one. Jared has one. Even little Jack Kline, poor baby, has one. Only the Misha fans demand passionately, as to how we could possibly see anything wrong with this ''smol bean''. They are very shocked with others for having an anti-Misha tag. And they get angry with me for not using the anti-Misha tag and blasting his bad behavior in the public domain. Why should there not be an anti-Misha tag? And why must you go in there, read all the posts and then complain? And why must you complain to me about not using the anti-tags? Hellers are very confusing people. Anywho, this one, who thinks Misha is ready for sainthood, sent me many messages about a post where I exposed another heller for going into the anti-tags and hijacking the post. That post is called ''Looking for negativity in the anti-tags and screeching when you find it''. You can read her drivel there. This is one of the messages.

Why is heller hate Misha's fault?

Misha has been on the show for ten years. In those ten years, Jensen never told him about NJCon? He never told Misha about Jaxcon? He never told Misha about the incessant shipping questions that he deals with. Misha never asked J2 why there is no shipping and sexuality questions allowed at cons? Really? I think he did. And I think Misha said the same thing heller snowflakes say. "But Jensen, if you don't go along they will call you a bigot." And they do. They kicked up such a fuss about it, and mass media became aware of it. Universities are aware of it. Jensen's reputation is in tatters. So Jensen [Misha's best friend, apparently] never told him about the homophobia accusations. What kind of a person lets his friend roast on a spit like that, but still saying things like this to incite his filthy goons ''Jensen and I don't write much destiel because we live it''. Oh, it's so funny. Misha is such a kidder, right?

One weird thing I noticed about Misha is that he never distracts from destiel. Even when he was asked about Megstiel, he said two things. First ''Meg is the only one who ever flirted with Cas, well other than Dean'' [This is queer baiting] and second ''Cas has eyes only for Dean''. He actively killed the Megstiel idea despite the fact that it was his only legitimate canon ship, in favor of a non-canon ship. What a stupid thing to do? Why would you do that, if you don't have any agenda? I have noticed he never pushes sastiel, his only other pairing, unless Jared is on stage with him, flirting with him, in good fun. Because, with Jared right in front of him, he cant push any destiel and he cant ignore sastiel. But when he is by himself, he doesn't like to push sastiel. And I always wondered why. I mean, Jared is sexually a little more brave than Jensen. Jared is certainly more touchy-feely than Jensen. Jared is more likely to kiss another guy on the mouth and not blush about it the way Jensen would. If Misha had pushed sastiel and not destiel, I think Jared would be less shy in helping to make it canon. Jensen is shy and no, that is not homophobia.

So why not push sastiel. I think its because when Misha first came to the show. J2 and wincest were the big pairings. If he wanted to create a niche, he had to choose one J or the other. Although, he stumbled onto destiel first because that is what he said. But then when you realize that there is another better ship available with a less shy co-star, why not take that one? Why take the abrasive, difficult one who doesn't want to be touched? Misha angers me but I would never call him stupid. He is not stupid. He was smart enough to intern at the white house. So the guy is an idiot. If he goes up against one J, he is essentially competing with the other. Even though I protect both my boys equally, I am going to do something that the stans will hate. I am going to pick up faults in the Js. Just bear with me okay. I have to do this. Besides, no human being is flawless. Jensen is extremely standoffish. His personality is a litte cold with people he considers strangers. However, between the two Js, he is the one that has the most recognition in his field. Jensen has collected many nominations and awards during his acting career than Jared has. Jared has equal footing with Misha. Jared and Misha have the same amount of accolades attached to their acting careers.

Dean is a louder, far more showier character than Sam is. In fact, despite being of different ''species'', personality-wise Sam and Castiel are very similar. Jared suffers from clinical depression, and as someone who suffers from a similar condition, I know something obscure about our types. We are sometimes disheveled creatures. Unlike Jensen who is healthier and always makes an appearance, with every strand of hair in place, Jared is sometimes completely untidy and wears a beanie. Sometimes his clothing looks creased. I can actually gauge how healthy he is during a panel, just by looking at his attire. Misha is probably not aware of this. And this is not a critique of his view on mental health. Although I have receipts of his hellers mocking mental health. Between the two Js, Jensen is the one who is difficult to compete with, because Misha is going to have to compete with his acting, his character and his looks. Jared [and by extension Sam] is an easier option.

Did they discuss destiel in private?

That is a good question. Have anyone on staff ever discussed destiel. Because the only one who seems enthusiastic about it, is Misha. When Jensen was asked but the Dean Cas dynamic at a previous Jib panel, he said that there have not been that many Dean Cas scenes, which he enjoyed, because he felt the Dean Cas thing was getting out of proportion, and he knew he and Misha didn't play their characters like that. When Misha was notified of this, he exclaimed ''that motherf*cker''. So you tell me. Why the discrepancy? Why is Jensen saying one thing and when Misha is confronted with it, he reacts terribly. Oh but he's just joking right?

Misha was told that there was no need to entertain shipping questions. He waves that rule during his panel and I have noticed at the recent Denvercon, that nobody asked him about destiel so he nonchalantly mentions Cockles. Why would you do that, but when you are asked a destiel question, you call the shippers perverts? You are the one encouraging them. He doesn't respect the destiel shippers. He uses them to keep him relevant. What do the other people affiliated with Supernatural say? Look at their tweets. Jim Michaels, Guy Norman Bee, Adam Glass, Eric Kripke, Chad Kennedy, Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles all say that there is no destiel. The only one who says otherwise is Misha Collins. When Samantha Smith was asked about destiel, she didn't acknowledge it and the fans attacked her on twitter. Didn't she notify Misha of this? She kept it to herself? For what? The only person who doesn't amend or dispute destiel [as far as I know] is Bob Singer, a slithering snake in the grass, and Sera Gamble's hugest headache whilst she was the show runner.

Does Misha enjoy any harassment that is caused by his meddling?

I have receipts of abusive tweets sent to Jared where he was also tagged. Jared doesn't respond. There may be two reasons. Firstly, unlike Misha, Jared is a full time actor of Supernatural. He simply doesn't have the time to look through thousands of tweets per day. I have receipts of Misha reading his tweets and responding to them. Another equally feasible reason might be that Jared [and I know my condition so I can vouch for this one] has no control over his mouth. Even though he has the full right to call out bad customer services, there are other tweets that I acknowledge that he shouldn't have sent. Jared is one of my babies. But I can acknowledge when he has put himself in a difficult situation. That is why he constantly says that Jensen tells him ''Dude, you are better than this''. Jensen even said during a panel ''don't just acknowledge that you will do wrong. Learn from your mistakes.'' I think Jensen sat Jared down and spoke to him about this. I think Jared listened because apparently, Jared's online activity has dropped dramatically since. Personally, I think people like Jared and me shouldn't be on twitter etc. Its not good for us. Studies show that SM actually exacerbates depression.

Jared said, at a recent con, that he is aware that he cant please everyone, so he wont. I am happy to hear that, because it means heller's online taunts are not messing him up the way they used to. The biggest proof of Misha's awareness of the situation is William Shatner. Shatner tweeted that Jared is aware of fans who want him off the show. Shatner called them out as destiel shippers, and boy did the hellers converge on him for it. Receipts are on other posts. So Shatner is friends with Misha, he even participated in Gishwhes, and knows the truth which he blasted on a media outlet, and despite following Shatner and Jared, Misha still doesn't know any of this? Really? Shatner never spoke to Misha about this?

So Misha follows Jensen on Twitter, but didn't get an inkling of the filth being spewed at Jensen, only by Misha's fans, because Jensen said Destiel doesn't exist at Jaxcon? So he read nothing? And Jensen didn't tell him? But they are supposed to be good friends, right? Wouldn't you tell your best friend that you were being bullied by his fans? What kind of friendship is that? When Jensen broke down behind the scenes at Jibcon, when he met a fan [that is the officlal explanation] Misha witnessed it, so why would he bring up the same topic when Jensen is on stage, already emotionally fragile. And then he sits there and watches Jensen fall apart. It happened in front of his face, backstage. Why would he pick up the topic again when he is onstage? If you are such a loving, caring person [and destiel is cockle's fault apparently] why would you do something that heartless. Fans, including myself, were angry that Daniela came on stage, and poured them brimming glasses of whisky. She never did that before, to my knowledge. They had always poured their own drinks and never so much.

Some people guesstimate that Daniela shipped destiel too, which is why Jibcon was such a ''dance monkey dance'' type of environment. Remember Misha's fake orgasm and the Hitch dialogue reading. They didn't choose that. Jibcon is planned the way it is. That is probably why 6 months after Jaxcon, Jensen wasn't looking forward to the panel, and he fell apart as soon as it arrived. Either Daniela poured them alcohol to make Jensen lose his inhibitions more, or she could see that he was tense and wanted him to loosen up. We may never know because after so many years of Jibcon being seen as a destiel con [a perception she never corrected] after Jensen broke down on stage and Jared cut the panel short, suddenly Jibcon was never a destiel con. Suddenly she banned shipping questions at Jibcon. Suddenly the Cockles panel became the J2M panel. I think Jared told her off after the last Cockles panel. So suddenly she is neutral now. And Misha saw none of this? Really? He must be the dumbest person ever to have all this happening around him, that he doesn't know. So he doesn't follow Daniela online? He didn't see the fighting? Stop making excuses for him.

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theyjustdontgetitdothey · 6 years

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Someone sent me a link to an anti Jack Kline blog and it’s hilarious. I mean, I love Jack but I now completely understand why a certain part of the fandom would hate him. Basically, Dabb took all the parts of Castiel that the fandom at large enjoyed, stuff that’s been removed from Cass by bad writing, and handed it all to Jack. His naivete, his fascination with humans even though he doesn’t quite understand them, his devotion to the Winchesters. All of that has gone to Jack. I mean, Cass tried to get Dean to abandon Sam twice in the course of 3 episodes at the end of season 13. He dragged Dean off in the cave and he tried to stop Dean from becoming Michael. He’s been playing a weird, almost villainous role while Jack was ready to sacrifice himself for the boys so he comes off as a hero.

Then there’s the fact that Jack almost instantly became family to Sam and Dean. He lived in the bunker, he went on hunts, they protected him and took care of him. All the things Cass stans clamored for Castiel to have were freely given to Jack right away. He even echoed Castiel’s “I love you. I love you all.” when he thought he was dying which pretty much strips away the power of the line for destiel shippers.

Considering Dabb is a huge troll, I think he did it on purpose. Think about it: Jack is like an attractive, young Cass with all the shitty parts removed. And because he’s like a year old, no one is really going to ship him with anyone so there won’t be that baggage hanging on his character. Honestly? I don’t blame Cass fans for being worried. Jack’s the perfect replacement for Castiel and he’s already taken his place in a lot of ways. Not that they’ll get rid of Cass but I wouldn’t be surprised if his storyline next season is all about saving heaven and being far away from Sam and Dean.

#anti destiel #destiew #anti castiel #just saying

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