#anti Sylvie

[the-lekhika]

I just want to reflect how much the Loki show ruined Loki as a character for me and how much disheartened I was with it.

I had always wanted a spinoff on him, which explored him more. And the Loki show did anything but that.

Do you guys remember how Loki was in Infinity War for like 5 minutes, yet Tom Hiddleston was at almost every media interaction the cast had? The same thing happened in the show as well. They used him to market the show, then sidelined him in his own show. I think that was unacceptable, because they used Loki as a bait to promote a character that I held no emotions for.

Sylvie.

The argument that one does not like Sylvie because they “hate a strong female character/a character with complex arcs” is so pathetic. I don’t think I would’ve liked Sylvie even if she had the most elaborate arc in the MCU (which she doesn’t) because it just wasn’t meant to be about her.

I wanted to see Loki’s story, his journey, and if you take this moment to interject with the statement that “she’s Loki too, just different”, then I say that I wanted to see our Loki, the one who was broken when he found out that he was the monster parents told their children about at night, the one who had plethora of iconic dialogues while fighting the avengers, who was killed only for us to realize that he wasn’t.

Everytime I said that we needed a Loki spinoff before it was announced was not because I wanted new characters, it was because I wanted to see more of the character that was already there, very much beloved by the fans. I wanted them to explore his character in a deeper sense and maybe dip a little into mythology as well.

I think Loki was one of those characters that neither needed a love interest nor was ready for one. I don’t ship him with either Sylvie or Mobius, because it feels like neither of them genuinely like Loki for who he is.

Loki had far more compelling things they could have explored like his jotun heritage, his trauma from the time with Thanos and his magic that is the only memory he has of Frigga instead of his love life.

The whole show felt like it was written by someone who wasn’t the least bit interested in Loki and barely looked into him before creating his female counterpart.

It feels like a disrespect for the fans who were connected to Loki on an emotional level.

Why am I saying this now, after like 2 years since the show came out?

I don’t know, after hearing the news about season 2 releasing in October, I just feel so upset. Tired. I hate this show much because it made Loki so irrelevant to me. A sidepiece in his own show. He went around in ugly costumes and all the regal vibes I had from him just disappeared.

I still remember a time when Loki was on the top of my favorite characters, and I loved him so much. I still do, but I’m not sure if I’ll watch the 2nd season and my 13 y/o self would hate me for this.

I’ve gotten detached from his character and I hate myself for it because Loki was someone whom I adored more than anything else in the fandom world.

Loki is that one character who is loved by the fanon but absolutely despised by the canon.

#pro loki #loki laufeyson #loki odinson #anti loki series #anti loki show #anti sylvie #anti sylki #anti mobius #anti lokius #loki deserves better #don't mind me #i'm just a very upset fan who loved loki #i think loki's character was done the most justice in thor the dark world and for some reason we overlook that movie #THAT film gave me the loki i wanted traumatized regal bitter and still proud and cunning

[smolvenger]

Back on me ranting about how much I hate Sylki bc I’m bitter, I had one thought that @bifrost-glitter touched on and I want to explore in depth-

What if, for the Loki and Sylvie pairing, we switched the genders?

What if it was a female protagonist who ran into a badass male warrior with a Tragic (tm) past?

imagine the woman falling head over heels for a badass male warrior she knew for 12 hours and dedicating herself to him and gushing over him…defending his every action.

Imagine the man says harsh things. Doesn’t really listen to her. Doesn’t acknowledge when she is kind to him. And the woman gushing about how tragic he is and how she will fight for and do anything for him. And when they do fight, she is shown as incompetent and he is so much stronger and better and she is just there to go “wow!”

And when they are reunited, he shows no remorse and won’t listen to her…nly for him to manipulate her feelings, make fun of her, call her names, belittle her, be stronger than her. Kiss her briefly to distract her all while she keeps begging him and acting all she wants is his happiness…and he ultimately betrays her for his own gain. And she still holds no anger and easily forgives him and searches the world for him?

If that was the case, there would be whole articles in newspapers about it being toxic and a bad example for young people, especially young girls, to watch to expect for a romantic relationship. The fandom and watchers would be all “omg! Poor little meow meow! Dump his ass! You deserve better than him, queen! He doesn’t deserve you! He is such trash!! I want to snuggle her in a blankie and tell her everything will be okay!”

But…*sigh* because it’s a woman abusing a man, it’s okay. It’s a “girlboss and malewife” dynamic and it’s romantic and Empowering (tm). (Also, watch The Gilded Age for The Russell’s for an example of a Girlboss and Malewife romantic relationship that is both healthy and well written while still engaging). Because women are totally not capable of being abusive or doing anything bad, right?

*sigh*

#anti sylvie #anti sylki #anti Loki show #venting #feminism #Disney #loki my beloved #Loki tv show #Loki tv series

[loki-us]

Welcome to my Mega Problematic Sylvie post

I wanted to make a list of everything problematic about Sylvie in s1 and s2 because she gets away with whatever she wants and it bugs me to no end that she never takes accountability for any of the pain she causes.

You have been warned. So let's get into it.

1. Sylvie’s way is the only way and she expects everyone else to just bend to her will without complaint

2. She is physically mentally and emotionally incapable of trusting anyone besides herself

3. She uses other people's emotions to manipulate them into getting what she wants

4. She refuses to even entertain the possibility that anything besides her own opinion is correct

5. She criticizes others' attempts to clean up the mess she caused while she herself does absolutely nothing about it

6. Always looking to ruin and run, taking the easy way out and avoiding any accountability

7. Puts her own need for revenge above the well-being of everyone else in the multiverse

8. Blames everyone else for the problems she herself caused

9. Insults everyone at the TVA for their lack of empathy despite it being the exact reason she didn't want to return in the first place. Every critique she delivers just illustrates how much of a hypocrite she is

10. Berates Mobius and all the people who are actually trying to fix her problem even though they never once blamed her for the mess they're in

11. Acts like she's doing everyone a favor just for being there and insulting everyone when in reality, Loki had to ask multiple times before finally getting her to return

12. Never willing to put in more effort than just destroying everything and walking away

13. Even when directly asked for her help, Sylvie straight up refuses. She couldn't care less about anything besides her McDonald's employee-of-the-month badge

14. Sylvie gaslights Loki into thinking they're the same, that she's not in the wrong because they're both only thinking of themselves. In reality, Sylvie is thinking only of going back to her own timeline, alone, while Loki is thinking only of making his friends happy, because that's what makes him happy too.

15. While being completely unsympathetic to Loki struggling with his greatest fear, Sylvie makes the decision that Loki's friend's are all better off where they are now. But is it really better for them, or just better for Sylvie?

16. And now, after 11 episodes and countless requests for Sylvie's help, she actually cares about the rest of the multiverse. And yet it's still solely because her own timeline is finally in danger

17. When Loki ends up sacrificing himself to solve the problem Sylvie created, her only response is a joyful shrug that she's now happy, alone, and responsibility-free.

Overall, I know Sylvie's only purpose as a character is to be a darker mirror of Loki and everything she does is understandably informed by her trauma. This is likely a result of having a limited-episode-series and having all male/not diverse writers creating female characters. Sylvie is used only as a comparison to Loki before he met Mobius, and unfortunately is never given any thoughtful character moments like Loki had showing how he was aware that his actions hurt others. In 1x1, Loki talks about how he doesn’t enjoy hurting people and only does it to maintain control. The only time we ever see Sylvie reconsider her actions is when she didn’t kill Timely, which I think is more because she saw herself in Timely as someone who didn’t want to be controlled by their ‘destiny,’ not because she developed any kindness or compassion toward him.

I understand the fact that Sylvie was never given someone like Mobius to allow her the opportunity to change like Loki did, but I don't think that should excuse her causing so much pain and being so self-centered. Sylvie never trusted or cared about anyone and that's also my biggest argument against Sylki; her loving or being driven by anyone besides herself is just so inconsistent with her entire character.

Anyway, my purpose here was not to be hateful or to search for any reason to criticize Sylvie, but instead to look critically at her character since I've seen a lot of people praise her as the strong, independent female Loki whose behavior can always be forgiven. Unfortunately, the way she was written is that Sylvie turned her own trauma into everybody else's problem and they all spent 2 seasons trying to clean up her mess. That's my take thank you and goodnight

#loki #anti sylki #this was so cathartic just let me have this #loki spends the whole season trying to save his friends and Sylvie blocks him at every turn #with her bad attitude and insults and gaslighting #it drives me irrationally bonkers #I’m not saying it’s Sophia’s fault or anything like that #I just wish they wrote her character better #can we get some more diverse writers #pls and thx #sylvie #mobius #loki series #loki tv #loki s2 #loki season two #loki season one #loki s1 #gifset #anti sylvie #thoughts-theories #loki-us blog

[gloriousburden]

when will the loki series hype finally die down so i can look through all the main loki tags and find actual loki stuff again and not just lokius shippers crying over and obsessing over the series like DAMN!!!

#would’ve mentioned sylvie/sylki fans here too but do they even exist anymore? #i mourn the loki fandom i knew prior to the series #wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy #loki series negativity #anti loki series #anti lokius #anti mobius #anti sylvie #anti sylki #loki #loki 💭

[humandisastertonystark]

So...let me get this straight again once and for all because I can't believe this isn't just a very, very bad fever dream.

After horribly killing him off in Infinity War, they decide to bring him back as a complete caricature of himself, basically making him an incompetent bumbling fool, to let their insufferable Mary Sue shine who shits all over him with the rest of the other characters for a whole damn season and then they reward him, after all this unnecessary additional torment, with the responsibility to fix the mess caused by Mary Sue, holding the timelines together for all eternity, doomed to be alone forever...something they also made him say he is the most scared of, multiple times.

How very fucking lovely

I can't believe I'm actually saying this but I wish he would've just stayed dead after IW

Also I hope everyone responsible for this, steps on Legos multiple times a day for the rest of their lifes

#loki series criticism #anti loki series #anti sylvie #loki season 2 spoilers #also can we talk about how he finally got out of that awful brown suit #only to be put in some fucking RAG #did they run out of budget at the end #like how hard can it be for a million dollar company to make an actual costume #fuck the mcu

[sippingonhottea]

"Loki will appear in future Marvel movies"....... Loki has been in the MCU for like 13 years now and he hasn't been relevant for the entire project not even once can you please stop hurting yourselves?

"But the Loki series" Yeah, the Loki series the one that made you think he's appearing in MoM when I said he definitely wouldn't and he didn't??

Or the Thor movie where again I said Loki is not gonna appear and he didn't??? This is so depressing to watch holy shit.

I don't even have hope for the comic Loki to be relevant to the comic universe either.

Marvel writers just don't care for Loki unless they wanna make fun of him.

#anti marvel #anti loki series #anti sylki #anti sylvie #marvel comics #loki #loki laufeyson #loki laufeydottir #marvel #loki odinson #comics loki #616 loki #loki odindottir #aoa loki

[loveloki555]

Real Lady Loki

#anti sylvie #loki #loki marvel #loki odinson #loki god of mischief #loki tom hiddleston

[pinktwingirl]

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

#loki #loki series #loki series negativity #anti sylvie #anti sylki #anti loki x sylvie #antisylki #she hulk #she hulk negativity #she hulk deserved better #marvel #mcu #mcu criticism #disney+ #mcu phase 4

[castielfallenangelwinchester]

Hey remember when instead of making Loki gender fluid like they should be (no a blink and you’ll miss it line on a piece of paper doesn’t count) the M C U decided to make their own character by mashing up Lady Loki, Amora and Sylvie Lushton, then have the other Loki variants shocked that there was a female variant of themselves

Oh and then they had a romance between Loki and Sylvie because of course!

#loki #anti mcu #anti sylvie #anti sylki

[annachum]

Signs that Sylvie is not from the Nine Realms from a timeline ( and I REFUSE to acknowledge her as such ) :

. No quasi shakespearan accent

. Her armors are basically knock offs in comparison to the gorgeous House of Buri armors

. NO. BRAIDS. ON. HER. HAIR. If she really have been on the run for decades and killing many of her pursuers, and she is actually from the Nine Realms, she would have VERY COMPLICATED BRAIDS by the time she first met Loki in person. NOT SOME KIND OF CURLY MULLET WITH NO FUCKING BRAIDS

. Choosing to work at McDonalds across SEVERAL TIMELINES instead of trying to play a Game of Thrones like Loki may have done. YOU'RE JOKING

. ABSOLUTELY no recollection or connection to a Nordic heritage or such

. ABSOLUTELY NO recollection of Frigga ( who played SUCH AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO LOKI'S UPBRINGING IN MCU )

Somebody can say all they want how Sylvie is a Loki variant and was a Princess of Asgard. These points are just some of the reasons why I REFUSE to accept her as a Laufeydottir/Odinsdottir, or from the Nine Realms, for the matter

I'm sorry I tried to accept it even when someone said it was ' canon. '

But I can't

I just can't

This is one of the VERY few times that I absolutely refuse to accept an info that is ' canon " or smth

#anti sylvie #I REFUSE TO ACCEPT SYLVIE AS A LOKI VARIANT #SHE HAS TO BE A BRAINWASHED HUMAN VARIANT #SHE HAS TO BE #my brain went OFFFFFFFF at that as I noticed these signs #sylvie behaves NOTHING LIKE A LOKI

[musclesandhammering]

Me, dragging myself across the floor toward the Marvel writers, crying and gasping for breath, having completely run out of hope for Loki season 2 being any good: p-please. Black nails. P-please, just j-just… let me have that. Just that o-one thing, please-

#that’s not gonna happen either #but if it did honestly it would redeem the entire show by like 25% in my eyes #it wouldn’t fix the bad writing thing or the s*lvie thing #but it might fix the ugly wardrobe thing 🤷‍♀️ #loki show negativity #loki series negativity #anti loki show #loki #antisylki #anti sylki #anti sylvie

[marvelstuffisfunny]

My tiktok fyp is full of Loki x Sylvie edits and I hate them

"He is so in love 😍"........

Why? Nothing Silvie has done has warranted a love connection

They are physically arguing and fighting every other time they are on screen together..

He cries and is miserable whenever she is around

Please Marvel just don't let them end up together

I don't care about the Loki x Morbius stuff just don't force a romance where there clearly isn't one

#marvel #mcu loki #loki laufeyson #loki show #loki #loki show s2 #anti sylvie #i hate sylvie #anti sylki

[smolvenger]

Loki TV Show Writers from episode 1.3 onwards: isn’t Sylvie the BEST!?!? Isn’t she a GIRLBOSS??!?!? Isn’t she PERFECT??!?!? Don’t you just love her??? You WILL love her! Love her!!!!

Me:

#anti sylvie #anti sylki #I know it’s negative #but I am venting my feelings before season 2 #just venting #I don’t wike her #Loki #Loki tv show #Loki TV #loki season one #Loki season two #Loki season 1 #Loki season 2

[inwantofamuse]

Lol Sylvie yelled at Mobius over pie because of the dying branches.

The dying branches she gave no craps about herself until it affected HER.

She really is completely toxic and unlikable. Not one single positive personality trait.

Not ONE.

#Anti Sylvie #loki #loki series #marvel

[marvelights625]

why are people who don’t like sylvie being called sexist? why are people who don’t like sylki and prefer lokius being called misogynist?? like what is your logic?

there is absolutely no reason for me to like sylvie. she literally told loki he had ‘the nerve’ to come to her, when he was just trying to explain the consequences for her actions and ask her for help.

she asked ‘is this the best you can do?’ when she didn’t even try shit to help those timelines.

she didn’t want to understand. she didn’t want to listen. she thought she was the one who was right, and the moment her life was threatened, she was just like fine…i’ll be on loki’s side.

she didn’t like it when loki was guiding everyone at the tva. she wanted the control, therefore her impatience.

she didn’t have any problem calling mobius careless, when she sat on her ass and ate mcdonalds after destroying the timeline.

but no, she was treated like a princess. nobody said anything to her. everybody was kind to her.

oh yeah, and i’m sorry, but so what if she’s had a rough past. i don’t care. i don’t love her for her past, i’d love her for who she choses to be. so stop it with that lame ass excuse.

why should i ship my favorite character with her?

do they care about each other mutually? no

does sylvie trust anybody but herself? no

does she respect him? no

is there any healthy communication? no

are they happy around each other? fucking no.

while they want romance between these two, the want ‘healthy male friendship’ between loki and mobius.

the ones who care deeply and are always supporting each other

the ones who don’t hesitate to trust one another.

the ones who show respect for the other

the ones who offer comfort when the other feels insecure.

the gleaming smiles when the other says something.

loki literally said ‘you saw something in me that i didn’t see in myself’

is it so bad to want this kind of love for your favourite character?

and for those calling us misogynistic, sylvie is typically what a misogynistic man thinks of a ‘strong female character’

‘take a white blonde woman. make her angry and loud and make her always speak over her male counterpart. yeah, that’s woman empowerment! also she has the most tragic back story, so if anyone blames her they are the haters. oh also, she’s always right. don’t have anyone blame her okay? the women on twitter won’t call her a girlboss then.’

don’t change your opinion for me, but don’t call me misogynistic. because as a female myself, it’s deeply offensive to me.

edit: this and also that loki deserved better than to have character development from a one-sided crush and a manipulative kiss and it being called ‘learning to care selflessly’.

#loki season 2 #loki series #anti sylvie #anti sylki #lokius

[yummygender]

That’s it, I’m taking custody of Loki. Fuck you Disney, he’s mine now.

Ok Loki, which realm do you want to take over first? I’ll get you a book, whatcha want?

#loki #fuck disney #anti disney #anti loki series #anti loki show #anti sylki #anti sylvie #who’s that bitch that wrote this show again? #idk how to tag this