#anti acotar wiki

[mygreendandelion]

are they now

#anti sjm #sjm critical #anti acotar #this from the wiki lmaoooo

[theironwatch]

It bothers me so much that Cassian can have his wings shredded (acomaf ch. 65 p. 602 ) and still make a full recovery. Azriel's wings are also injured (acowar ch. 65 p. 578) though we're told not as badly as Cassian's wings. Still, it's bad enough that he can't participate in the up coming battle though his wings can be saved.

We get a description of Emerie's wings from Cassian (acofas ch. 8 p. 76) who describes the scars as "careful, brutal scars down the center tendons." In acosf (ch. 9 p. 109) Nesta asks Emerie if a healer could repair her wings. Emerie tells her "It is extremely complex - all the connecting muscles nerves and senses. Short of the High Lord of Dawn, I'm not certain anyone could handle it." Maybe it's just me but the word "shredded" makes me think that Cassian's wings were probably in a worse state than Emerie's wings. The thing is Cassian wasn't healed by Thesan so the Night Court has at least one healer capable of repairing Illyrian wings.

Despite this nothing can be done for all the Illyrian women who've had their wings clipped apparently.

#maybe the healer is madja since acording to the wiki she healed rhysands wings at some point during the war #the one that takes place before the series starts #acotars magic system sucks #as does the rest of the worldbuilding #so I couldn't tell you whether or not this is an oversight on sarahs part #a court of thorns and roses #acotar #cassian #anti cassian #azriel #anti azriel #emerie #emerie of illyria #anti rhysand #anti inner circle #illyria #night court #sjm critical

[alectology-archive]

sj and her world-building lmao. like if she simply owned up to making shit up as she goes and not even checking /editing for consistency I'd be like okay sure whatever at least you're honest that you don't give a fucj and really all you care about is the sex and portraying the characters this way. like that's more legit and tbh her stans wouldn't mind anyway bc they stay for the porn and terrible characters. but no, her work is advertised as this epic /high fantasy series and she doesn't deliver!!!

yeah and off late she’s outright stopped trying to have a plot (most of ccity’s plot was useless or non-existent, acosf doesn’t even have a plot) and she’s made it clear at this point that she just wants to write smut because that’s mostly what she talks about in her IG lives anyway (apart from discussing how hot her own male characters are?) so idk why she bothers trying to write Epic TM fantasy books.

#why do stans expect good books from a person who refers to the acotar/tog wiki for info anyway... #asks #anon asks #anti sjm #anti acosf

[spaceshipkat]

You asked for a separate ask about it, so: Ramble about Amren’s age to me, Wiki Queen

you are an enabler, anon. i love you for it.  

so here’s her age on her wiki (say wiki three times in the mirror and i’ll show up)

and the issue i have with her is a pretty simple one (that could technically be applied to all fae, but it’s slightly different with amren): her age and behavior. 

amren is portrayed as vain and judgmental and short-tempered, which all fit with her age (better than the ridiculousness of 500yo fae having a snowball fight), but she spends her days building jigsaw puzzles, having sex with varian, and more or less sitting around doing nothing while judging everyone who comes into view. her magic was held under lock and key by riceman, but what is strange to me is…if her trueform is so huge and terrible, what form did she exist in when she was in the dimension she was born/created/whatever in? if she was in the Prison (what a unique name, wow, sj/m, you amaze me) for millennia, what form was she in? the ball of fire, an angel with white feathered wings, a literal dragon? what??? 

ahem.

the only thing that makes sense about amren’s role in the book is that she’s riceman’s political adviser (it’s the kind of relationship i wish alien and rowboat had culminated in), except…we never see any of that? bc it is highly unlikely that amren would advise riceman to bring mor’s abusers into the equation, to try to form an alliance with them since, according to the wiki: 

mor is a member of the inner circlejerk, so when riceman wants to bring in eris and co, it’s unlikely amren as his adviser would 1) allow it, or, if she knew of it and couldn’t stop riceman, 2) not tell mor about it (i seem to recall that mor was caught unawares by their appearance). amren helped faerug when she was UTM (a person she knew for a single blink in the grand scheme of her lifespan in comparison to her relationship with mor) so why would she help faerug and not mor, a member of the supposed tight-knit circle of friends? 

furthermore, the “adviser” title that amren holds seems to be just an airless title, since this happens: 

royal advisers (what i assume amren is the equivalent of) exist to hold sway over what the rulers do. rulers aren’t given carte-blanche to do whatever the fuck they want while saying “ha, nope, sorry adviser, imma do this and you can go twiddle your thumbs for all i care”. in most matters, if advisers don’t agree with what the ruler wants to do, the ruler isn’t able to do it. 

but i digress. back to her age. 

why would a 15,000-year-old angel/firebird/dragon hybrid want to return to live as a high fae? wouldn’t a 15,000-year-old angel/firebird/dragon hybrid want rest, want to cease existing, want to get away from the boring life she’s led in the night court? she was willing to burnout to save prythian (in a lovely deus ex machina) and yet…she chooses to come back…why, exactly? she knew varian for a matter of weeks before this: 

i find it hard to believe that this is why she chooses to stay, so let me explain. this is one of those times where imma compare amren with cas (from supernatural). 

cas is immortal, an angel who has lived for literal eons, and he is a true soldier when he’s first introduced in season 4. he doesn’t care about humans in any sense stronger than protecting them from evil things, and even then they’re just meatsuits with souls that will wind up in heaven. if amren had been crafted to be like cas, to have a realistic arc from not caring about humans to caring about humans (and cas’ arc spans, what, twelve seasons?) her sudden love for humans would have been much more believable and i might actually care about her character. for cas, loving humans is something that takes years to occur, and it’s only bc he has an extremely close with “the humans in his charge,” but most especially dean. dean, who he has known for years, and has saved his life, and sacrificed so much to protect, etc etc. if sj/m had actually had the balls to show us that arc for amren, rather than varian literally showing up one day, kissing amren, and amren deciding that he’s taught her what love is and what caring for people is? then yeah, i’d believe amren wants to sacrifice herself to save prythian. but a simple mention of “oh yeah, i watched humans and how they loved and i now know what it means to love bc i had sex with you a couple times so i love you now teehee” isn’t enough. sorry, sj/m, you fail. 

anyway, so, what, the inner circlejerk didn’t show amren what love is in the centuries that she was with them? is sex the only way to show love in sj/m’s books? am i surprised the inner circlejerk isn’t as deep a friendship as sj/m would like to pretend it is? this decision of sj/m’s completely deflates any semblance of a friendship we’re supposed to believe exists, if a man male amren has known for what would be a blink in her lifespan is what makes her want to sacrifice herself and then come back to life “to live” (i’m really just waiting for that line to be regurgitated in this series, too). 

all of my problems with amren come back to her age and how it’s used/not used in the books, bc sj/m can’t decide if she wants amren to be this terrifying otherworldly creature who drinks blood or a silly girl who falls in love at first kiss. (if your characters have to kiss to prove they’re in love, revisit their romance, please. it’s weak.) and i find it extremely hard to believe that a 15,000-year-old angel/firebird/dragon hybrid would want to return to life as a full-fledged immortal fae simply for the sake of a man male she barely knows beyond his dick. she’s a fae now. how much longer is she supposed to live? if she no longer has her magic, what’s she going to bring to the inner circlejerk beyond smarmy comments? is she going to be happy whiling away her time with jigsaw puzzles and boring dinners filled with lifeless, inane banter?  

were it my book? it wouldn’t happen. amren would stay dead. when i kill my characters, i follow through with it, even if the character is a personal favorite. (i have cried over killing certain characters. in the ms i’m revising now, i kill a character and every single person who’s read the book has yelled at me for it–which is the reaction you want.) 

anyway. yeah. that’s my problem with amren. i may rb this if more thoughts come to me, which they probably will bc rn i’m hella tired (it’s almost midnight here holy crap) but i’ll leave it here for now. 

#ask #anonymous #anti sjm #anti acotar #anti amren #i fucking love wiki queen omg #bless you geoff #kat rambles

[nestable]

Once upon a time I read a thread of people arguing against people that want sjm to diversify the acotar books and the main argument was "fae are white culture, so if other races are featured then it's cultural appropriation" and I sat there like🙄ARE YOU DUMB, REALLY ARE YOU DUMB!?

First of all if we're gonna get technical, theres no such thing as a uniform 'white culture' . The grouping of white people into a single group comes from racist, white supremacist and nazi ideals that all white people are united in their superiority over POC's. Like other race groups, white people come in a variety of different cultures, heritages and histories so saying fae are white culture is self defeating because the concept of 'fae' was coined in middle ages europe and SJM is american, so she has no claim to that so-called culture. With their logic she would be a cultural appropriator then.

'Fae' is an umbrella term used to encompass all mythical creatures that are present in a multitude of different european folklore. Fairies are described as supernatural, metaphysical and preternatural beings, and as its obvious, this can be applied to many different mythological creatures outside of Europe or those that appear in european mythology and outside of Europe. Examples of these are mermaids, elves and fairies, all of which appear in in both european and other cultures across the globe. I'm South African, african to be specific and I cant tell you how many legends exists around mermaids, fairies and goblin like creatures. It's so common around here that being called a mermaid is a compliment in my culture.

For the purposes of this piece and to maintain relevance to the series, I'll be focusing on fairies and how this mythology exists outside of Europe. Heres a run down of the existence of fairies outside of Europe.

This is the link to the page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_beings_referred_to_as_fairies

So this argument that fae are exclusive to 'white culture' is beyond false, uninformed and in some cases, racist.

Now, no author is obligated to add diversity if they dont want to but it would be nice if they did to contribute to the uniformed, anti racist, anti misogynist and anti sexist society the world is try to build. (Also it would be nice to see different identities of readers reflected in the books to show the diversity of her audience. )And we all know the best way to achieve this is through media. Though I understand some people may be too insistent on this, but you cant ignore or downplay the relevance if it all.

We're not saying that sjm should suddenly write a book with a POC as the main character, because that has its own issues. But we're saying have adequate representation. Not having POC descriptions that are so ambiguous that you need an english professor to determine if its a POC, or having POC's be present only to kill them off for Mary's Sue's character development.

I'm rambling now, but in conclusion, the assumption that fae are exclusively white is nonsensical and having different races won't hurt the series but would only uplift it.

#acotar series #sjm critical #just say you're racist and go #diversity in acotar

[alectology-archive]

So i didnt actually know what this book was lol so i went to the wiki and uh its describing mor as bisexual? Which seems very different from your take on her? Is that like oh its unconfirmed/ambiguous in the books and up to reader intepretation or is that the fandom being hmm iffy? And trying to keep a f/m ship alive

okay the thing is most antis and even stans pretty much agree that she’s a lesbian. Far be it from me to ignore bi rep because I am bi. This post explain it really, really well so go through it, but the essence of it is this:

I’d never seen her at such a loss for words. [Mor] closed her eyes, fingers digging into her skin. “I can’t love him like that.”

“Why?”

“Because I prefer females.”

which I think is a very clear indication that she’s a lesbian, apart from the fact that she’s explicitly mentioned that she sleeps with other men just to keep Az away and there was a mention that she looked very uncomfy after sleeping with Helion in acowar. Sjm has also mentioned zero male lovers for her which I think is a pretty good clue because we know sjm loves m/f pairings with a passion that cannot be rivalled.

Also take it with a grain of salt when you find people claiming Mor is bi because I’ve seen a bunch of them doing it to pile hate on her because she made a couple mean comments about Nesta (which weren’t that bad tbh compared to the kinds of things Cas has done - and yes I will make the comparison because the narrative thinks Cas is good despite all of that) - Azriel+Nesta stans used that as an excuse to claim she was leading him on for centuries just to further demonise her. (Anyway, even if she’s bi - which she mostly likely isn’t - Az should’ve taken a clue instead of pursuing her incessantly. It’s fucking creepy.)

That said!! All this debate is mostly due to sjm’s very shitty retcon of her sexuality and I don’t *really* blame the fandom for being that confused although I’m still hesitant to give them a pass because it’s notorious for being very racist, ableist and queerphobic.

#idk why the wiki says she's bi though #asks #anon asks #anti sjm #anti acotar #pro mor #sjm queer rep

[spaceshipkat]

I have never read acotar but I read up to the 3rd tog book, and while I don't want to read anymore sjm books I see that even antis like some of the characters. is it worth reading acotar for this reason or will I just regret all of it?

no, it’s not worth it at all, lovely anon. i’d just peruse live reads that antis have done (if you have, please do rb this so the anon can find you!) and/or the wikis (though be aware that the wikis are wrong more often than they’re right when it comes to details of character backstory or world-building). we like some of the characters, yes, but it’s certainly not bc the books themselves are good. tbh it’s almost like sj///m randomly has bouts of being a competent writer when she introduces a certain character (such as Manon in h0f and q0s--we don’t talk about her treatment e0s unless we want to get angry). 

#ask #anonymous #anti sjm