#anti casifer

[fandom-hoarder]

I just saw you reblog a post about Misha and Jared being overlooked for good acting vs Jensen. And I agreed with OP and your tags about Jared and Misha.

I think Misha had his areas of strength, but Casifer was more of a caricature or copy-cat of Mark P Lucifer, rather than Lucifer in Jimmy’s body (or Cass’ vessel). For example, Jared made Lucifer his own but there was still a tie to Mark’s version with his menace and condescension. I believe Misha can act, and there is one episode where I think he played lucifer well, but stopped really trying because Apocalypse Cass and The Empty Cass are frankly embarrassing.

Another point that was brought up is that some people overlook that Jared is good because they hate Sam or hate Jared, which I think is true but those peoples opinions aren’t valid because they have an agenda. But I also think it’s that Jensen/Dean are scene stealers and are often more animated, so the casual enjoyer is likely going to be drawn to him. Then he pulls out the emotion and it catches you because he’s usually fun. On the other hand Jared/Sam are more of a steady presence on SPN, most of the time, so it can be easier to not focus on him.

But what I’ve found on rewatches is that, while I initially was drawn to Dean and his expressive eyes, I’m now drawn more often to Sam and the nuances of what he’s doing, especially when he’s playing Not!Sam or Sick!Sam, but I still mostly love their scenes together most.

Though I think both actors have their strengths, I think Jared is truly stronger at physically embodying different characters, and Jensen often gets a stronger emotional response but I’d add a caveat to that because I’ve also noticed a difference in the quality of writing for emotional Sam lines vs emotional Dean lines at times, especially early seasons vs late seasons dialogue.

Anyway, sorry this got so long. I’m not even sure if you usually do asks. But I just had to comment because I find it so frustrating how a loud group praises Jensen skill and dumps on Jared when the truth is they and their characters are doing different things for different purposes, but both are good actors, and both have also had flat moments or over the top moments that have taken me out of the show once or twice.

[Reference]

The thing with Misha is he's pretty decent at getting into character with a gimmick.

Castiel is well known for his gravelly voice, because Misha thought about what would happen to a human vessel containing an angel, and then he stuck to the bit.

He is great at caricaturing Mark P's Lucifer, because he has some distinct facial expressions and line delivery. But, like I said in those tags, that wasn't the actual assignment. 🙃 And a big part of this is on Misha, because he could've given more thought to it; but it's also on the directors that allowed it. And I think a huge part of that might be how Mark P's face is a shorthand for Lucifer, and perhaps people forget that's just a vessel. So you end up with a Jimmy Novak vessel, comically contorting his face into Nick's features.🤨 I can't take it seriously; it's so uncomfortable to watch.

Apocalypse World Castiel is maybe even WORSE to me, because

1) how and why does he sound like that? Is Jimmy Novak German over there?? Or is that what CASTIEL sounds like, since our Castiel also doesn't sound like Jimmy Novak?

2) why would castiel even have the same vessel? I can give this a pass for the sake of the mind trip of seeing evil cas with the same face, but that brings up:

3) the FUCKING ACCENT is an honestly lazy shorthand for evil. Because he's not just doing a German accent, he's doing a Nazi Villain Accent like from a movie, complete with facial ticks. Someone else has a more in depth post on why it's Not Great to use German accents and Nazi caricature as a shorthand for evil, but I can't find it to link right now.

It bothers me so much.

The Empty doesn't bother me as much, except for the fact that once again Misha made a character choice that no one else depicting The Empty did. However, I'll give him a pass on it since his was the first.

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Conversely, Jared puts a lot more thought into character motivation to create a nuanced PERSONA. He's not just "how can i make this one quirky in a new way?" He's getting into the character's head, and often switching between them. The way they carry themselves, the tone of voice while still being Sam/Jared's voice, the way he had Gadreel speak in iambic pentameter! The way you can see the difference when you pay attention.

And maybe I didn't appreciate it as much the first time, because I binged it ravenously rather than taking the time to think about any of the acting. So perhaps, like you said, Jensen/Dean's stronger emotional acting took the spotlight.

But with rewatching, I notice so much more about how Jared portrays different characters and learned so much about the care he puts into figuring out every character, I'm just constantly in awe.

I don't think Jensen's Michael was that bad, but it also didn't feel like Jared's Lucifer. Maybe part of that is that Jensen hadn't had to act anyone other than Dean as often as Jared had to act Not Sams.

J2 definitely each have different acting styles and strengths, and sure it's maybe not always perfect, but I love both. Though, I do have to admit, most of my reblogs and posts on the subject are just about Jared...lol. He's just amazing to me, maybe especially because Sam does get shafted to the background a lot, but when I look for him Jared is putting his all into Sam. If acting was still one of my personal interests, he would be a role model to me.

#asks #anon ask #acting! #jared's acting #jensen's acting #misha's acting #anti casifer #long post

[stagnantgrief]

hello once again supernatural fans no more polls for you ever again

#anti casifer

[itdobecannon]

Yes I'm stupid enough to spell done wrong and what bout it bitch?

#a small piece of my talent 💅 #its so hard to draw masterpieces #anti misha #just in case #anti casifer #?

[moonchild-cupcake]

MISHA Collins is an underrated actor

I could never imagine another actor playing Castiel other than him

I can't expect everybody to love him but I do

And he deserves a lot more work in the big screen that he gets

#casifer #castiel #misha collins is underrated #misha collins #antis dni #adding this tag to make people understand that this is a pro misha place #supernatural #spn

[ruinedsam]

re: your last post

now I'm curious 😭😭

Ok but don't say I didn't warn you 😱

Tw for being a hater

Agree with you regarding Claire, she's insufferable. The thing is, her character actually had potential, she would have been ideal to show and really put a face to the collateral damage Sam, Dean and Cas leave behind...this whole wanting to become a hunter and being all budddy buddy with team free will makes no sense

I really liked Charlie in s7, but then the Sam antis in the writers room took her character over :(

Bobby has a few good moments but mostly I can't stand him because of how he treats Sam

all angels post s6 are deeply boring, especially au!Michael

I hate what they did with Crowley in mid/late seaons, they really turned him into a caricature of his former self, and he should never have become friends with the Winchesters - he was such a great villain!

POST CAGE LUCIFER SHOULD HAVE BEEN OBSESSED WITH SAM AND ITS SO DISGUSTING HOW THEY RIDICULED HIM IN S11 CASIFER IS THE WORST AND THEN THEY TRIED TO GIVE HIM A REDEMPTION IN S12/13 🤢 S5 LUCIFER WAS THE BEST VILLAIN OF THE SHOW HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO HIM

I can't stand Dean in seasons 7-10 and want to puch him in his face basically every time he's on screen

I like Jody but I hate how they tried to make her into everyone's mother figure, including the Winchesters 🥴 she deserved better

I hate Ketch with every fiber of my being, Toni obviously as well

I hate Cole or whatever his name is, the entire storyline was so stupid and out of place. Sam and Dean were literally branded as serial killers a few years before but somehow he missed that?? Also he called Sam Sammy without being obsessed with him 🔪

au!Bobby was boring

demon!Dean was boring

post s6 Cas whenever he interacts with Dean because I loathe how they took away his spine and dignity and made him into Dean's bitch

no wait the worst thing is when he lets Lucifer out of the cage and then refuses to take responsibility for it

Benny but that's because I'm sam-coded lol. Like I don't have anything against him as a person, but he's the living symbol of Dean's infuriating hipocrisy so I can't stand the sight of him

Never really cared for the ghostfacers

Or Kaia

Or the randos from Lebanon

I don't think I liked Cain but honestly I barely remember him every day I come closer to wiping the horrible memory of season 9 and 10 out of my mind <3

#ask #spn critical #lol excited to see if this will make me lose followers

[what-do-1000-swords-look-like]

So I was thinking about this scene:

I've always talked about it from Dean's perspective (and sometimes from the Destiel perspective) but never from Cas'. I think the GA (and antis who claim this is a fanservice scene and nothing more) underestimate just how powerful this scene was for Cas' own story. The ILY aside, I think it's important to note just how full circle the angel's storyline came and how impactful that decision to include the bloody handprint really was.

When Cas first enters the story of SPN that we see (physically I mean), this scene happens:

Cas: "I'm the one who gripped you tight and raised you from perdition."

Dean: "And why would an angel rescue me from Hell?"

Cas: "Good things do happen, Dean."

Dean: "Not in my experience."

Cas: "What's the matter? You don't think you deserve to be saved."

Dean: "Why'd you do it?"

Cas: "Because God commanded it."

When Cas first rescues Dean from Hell, he has been commanded to do it. He's following orders. They have "work" for Dean to do aka an ulterior motive. And as we see here, Dean as always, believes he doesn't deserve to be saved (which we find out why in this particular instance later) and that good things don't just happen which momentarily confuses Castiel.

Dean: "Is it true? Did I break the first seal? Did I start all this?"

Cas: "Yes. When we discovered Lilith's plan for you, we laid siege to Hell. And we fought our way to get to you. Before you--"

Dean: "Jump started the apocalypse."

Cas: "We were too late."

Dean: "Why didn't you just leave me there then?"

Cas: "It's not blame that falls on you, Dean. It's fate. The righteous man who begins it is the only one who can finish it. You have to stop it."

Dean: "Lucifer, the apocalypse, what does that mean? Hey! Don't you go disappearing on me, you son of a bitch. What does that mean?"

Cas: "I don't know."

Dean: "Bull!"

Cas: "I don't. Dean, they don't tell me much. I know our fate rests with you."

Dean: "Then you guys are screwed. I can't do it, Cas. It's too big. Alistair was right. I'm not all here. I'm not--I'm not strong enough. I guess I'm not the man either of our dads wanted me to be. Find someone else. It's not me."

In this scene, it's after Alistair got out of the Devil's trap and attacked Dean, after telling Dean that he started the apocalypse by breaking the first seal. Cas reveals that the reason they went into Hell to rescue him was to prevent the first seal from being broken which would knock over apocalyptic dominoes. But they were too late. And Dean makes a good point: why didn't they just leave him there then? Considering what we know about how angels sometimes operate in this story, it would make sense if they chose to do something like that but Cas rescues Dean anyway. Which we know Cas was the one not only because he says it but also because when Dean is resurrected, we see this:

Which is further verified by what happens to Pamela when she touches it. She's able to communicate with Castiel directly (a la Amara with Casifer being able to connect to Dean but I won't digress) and we know her eyes burn when she attempts to spy on his true visage.

Now if we go back to the 15x18 scene above, we get:

Dean, Sam, Cas, and Jack are currently locked in a battle with Chuck and reclaiming their free will after they discover he's been the bad guy all along -> "Lucifer, the apocalypse" from 4x16

Dean and Cas are currently being chased down by Billie aka Death who is intent on killing Dean once and for all so he can go back to where she believes he belongs (and she had a plan in place to take care of Chuck and how Dean would play a part in it besides Jack and Sam) -> aka "Lilith's plan" & Alistair and Co getting Dean to break the first seal from 4x16

Cas is helping Dean to get away, rescuing him from what would have been a gruesome death -> Cas rescues Dean from Hell from 4x01 & 4x16

Dean feeling defeated when he and Cas are locked in the room (that has a Devil's trap in it btw) that Billie is trying to get into -> Dean telling Cas that they shouldn't rely on him to stop the Apocalypse & it's too big for him because he is suffering from guilt and self-doubt from 4x16

Dean: "Everybody's gonna die, Cas. Everybody. I can't stop it. She's gonna get through that door."

Cas: "I know."

Dean: "And she's gonna kill you. And then she's gonna kill me. I'm sorry."

If you take this dialogue and these two performances in this moment and compare it to the 4x16 hospital scene, you have a very similar event or theme happening here. The only differences are Cas' reaction (we see he is more greatly affected this time around which is due to their familiarity with one another and the development of their characters and relationship as well as the show evolving, season 4 was still considered to be the "horror show"), Dean while still hopeless is accepting of the inevitable & is not shutting Cas out. Instead he moves closer rather than looks away like he does in 4x16, letting out the one tear. Not that he wasn't vulnerable with Cas in 4x16, but the whole performance from Jensen while being different in its own ways is also quite similar to that scene.

While Cas saved Dean from Billie in the moment & warded the door to keep them alive that much longer (with his own blood but more on that in a moment), he comes up with a plan to stop Billie entirely that will save Dean but also cause his own death. Thus, he is going to rescue Dean while laying down his own life.

Cas: "When Jack was dying, I made a deal to save him."

Dean: "You what?"

Cas: "The price was my life. When I experienced a moment of true happiness, The Empty would be summoned and it would take me forever."

Dean: "Why are you telling me this now?"

Cas: "I always wondered when I took that burden, that curse, I wondered what it could be, what my true happiness could even look like. I never found an answer because the one thing I want, it's something I know I can't have. But I think I know...I think I know now. Happiness isn't in the having, it's in just being. It's in just saying it."

Dean: "What are you talking about, man?"

Cas: "I know...I know how you see yourself, Dean. You see yourself the same way our enemies see you. You're destructive and you're angry and you're broken, your'e Daddy's blunt instrument. And you think that hate and anger, that's...that's what drives you, that's who you are. It's not. And everyone who knows you sees it. Everything you have ever done, the good and the bad, you have done for love. You raised your little brother for love, you fought for this whole world for love. That is who you are. You're the most caring man on Earth. You are the most selfless, loving human being I will ever know. You know, ever since we met, ever since I pulled you out of Hell, knowing you has changed me. Because you cared, I cared. I cared about you, I cared about Sam, I cared about Jack, but I cared about the whole world because of you. You changed me, Dean."

Dean: "Why does this sound like a goodbye?"

Cas: "Because it is. I love you."

Dean: "Don't do this, Cas. Cas..."

Cas: "Goodbye, Dean."

Dean: "What?"

So not only does Cas address Dean's anger which has been a series-long issue that really was brought to the forefront the most it's ever been in season 15 (meaning the anger is fueling Dean's desperation which is now part of the main theme of the season), but he also saves him from his own personal Hell. While also setting Dean up to do what he does in the next episode when it comes to facing down Chuck and the decision he makes (along with Sam) not to kill him and give him what he wanted. What Alistair, Lilith, and Hell always thought he was. What their enemies (like Chuck) always thought about Dean. What he himself thought.

And the bloody handprint happens in the moment The Empty enters the room on one side and Billie breaks through the door on the other side (when the wards Cas put up in his own blood to protect Dean from Billie don't hold up anymore; yes, Cas used his own blood to protect Dean, the significance of that is just so...I don't even know how to put it into words):

Cas throws him against the wall, out of the way, so he can be physically safe from both supernatural forces. So he not only saves his soul so to speak, he also saves his life.

And what's important about this scene and the way it went down/was written is that while yes, it parallels how Cas rescued Dean from Hell, it also brings his story full circle in a very beautiful way (not just his relationship or profound bond with Dean). Cas chose to do this. He chose to speak those three little words to summon The Empty, ensuring his own death, but also confessing to Dean how he really feels with no expectations. All to save Dean.

So he did what he had entered the story to do in the beginning, but this time, Cas exercised his own free will to save the man he loved while also setting up said man to not only defeat Chuck but also to save the world. Something that Dean himself chooses to do while exercising his own free will (which is another reason why 15x20 makes no sense).

So that bloody handprint, whoever came up with it on the day or if it was in the script (I can't remember which), that was a moment of pure genius because physically it helps pull this whole scene and Cas' story together even more. Cas is commanded to save Dean from Hell, leaves a burned-in handprint on his shoulder. Cas chooses to save Dean from Death (and himself), leaves his own bloody handprint on his shoulder.

As much as I hated Cas dying for the longest time and I didn't understand why Misha was so happy with that ending for his character (despite the parallels), I now get it. Cas' story had come full circle. He exercised the free will that he had not only earned but was given when he changed thanks to knowing Dean, way before Jack entered the picture. That's development, folks. And it was exemplified in the most beautiful way possible. He got to choose when to summon The Empty and why. He got to choose to save Dean one more time but this time of his own volition (though I would argue he may have chosen to save Dean's soul pre-4x01 despite the latter having started the apocalypse). But this scene from beginning to end is HIS choice. The circumstances and time pressure may be present but he could have tried to find another way to get them out of there or he could have lived (because I don't see how Billie could have killed him, he's an angel and The Empty purposely wanted him to be happy and then collect him so even if Billie got all stabby stabby, The Empty would have probably sent him back because it wouldn't be satisfied), but no. He made the choice to utilize this deal that Dean knew nothing about in order to save Dean once again.

And sure enough, in 15x19 we see:

Chuck is defeated. Dean had his free will all along (as did Sam). Jack is now the new God, which also brings another portion of Cas' story full circle and he helped to bring about. While Dean obviously misses Cas, he is able to stand on his own and make this decision himself without Heaven or Hell whispering into his ear or trying to affect the outcome. This is Dean Winchester exercising his free will (that he never really lost like he feared which is also important for the whole John/Chuck convo that we'll save for another time).

So for those who say Castiel wasn't an important character in the series or in relation to Dean (or Sam or Jack) or that the 15x18 scene was fanservice or pandering, you are incredibly wrong. Castiel proved to be instrumental in not only Dean's story line (as well as the other two) but also to the ending of the mythology altogether as well as the end of the series. The end of 15x19 looks like the exact way it's supposed to (minus them planning to break Cas out of The Empty & calling up Eileen & Jack still hanging with his fam = Winchesters 2.0 getting a better and more sensical ending that they had earned, especially in relation to Winchesters 1.0). The way Cas exited the story mirrored the way he entered, with a few slight differences. And like I said above, that's called development and it was illustrated in the most beautiful way possible while also giving one of the original members of Team Free Will the earned right to exercise theirs.

#castiel #castiel meta #spn #spnposts #mentions of destiel #very slight #this is more about cas and what he chose to do #metaposts #spn 15x18 #castielposts

[itsgettingcrazieroutthere]

the writers making cas the antagonist as casifer like they forgot the plot of s6 and the CAUSE of s7

Oh, my God, YES???

The thing is, the writers often forgot Castiel's mistakes or they forgave him wayyy too quickly.

The "I'm god" phase? He was simply misguided!! 🥺

The "angels' genocide" (that became a problem in S14, S15)? Ohhh, the angels are meanies to Cas only because they are dicks! 😣 

The "let out the leviathans"? Oh, but Cas is so sorry!! 😞

The "purposefully broke Sam's wall to make him go crazy only to slow Dean down?" (my personal favorite, to be honest) Oh, but he "took Sam's craziness for himself", hence he automatically is forgiven for everything and gets praised for everything he did (and didn't do)! 🥰

Etc., etc. etc.

I totally agree with you, the writers never needed to create a (ridiculous, dumb, cringe, completely-ignores-canon) plot to make Cas an antagonist, they just had to make him responsible for the many (bad) choices he made. 

Thanks for the ask and sorry it took me so long to answer it <3<3<3

#anti casifer #there are no words to express how much I hate casifer #like #I could write an essay #about how bad it is #anti castiel #spn critical #ask #thanks for the ask <3<3<3

[ghost-go-roasty-mctoasty]

OMG HOW DOES IT EVEN MAKE SENSE THAT LUCIFER POSSESSED CASS HIS VESSEL IS WEAK ITS BULLSHIT THE WHOLE POINT WAS THAT SAM WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD HOLD HIM ARGH I HATE THIS SHOW SO MUCH WHY DID S5 LUCIFER CHANGE SO MUCH TO S11 ARGHHH but gosh when dean holds sam close to him in the cage omg my heart- BUT OMG WHY IS IT SO EASY TO GET INTO HELL? WHY DOESNT HELL LOOK SCARY ARGHH I HATE EVERYTHING WHY WASN'T LUCIFER OBSESSED WITH SAM ANYMORE?? THATS LIKE HIS WHOLE THING

#very mad #spn critical #anti casifer #supernatural #spn s11 #sam winchester #dean winchester #sam and dean #gen

[fandom-hoarder]

Ughhh the grimace casifer does, putting on the affect of mark/hallucifer. Ughhh I hate your face i hate your fucking FACE. It makes my skin crawl.

#this shouldnot have heen allowed #it's literally worse than au castiel #anti casifer #misha critical #he's not playing Lucifer. he's imitating mark's expressions. and it's. not good.

[stagnantgrief]

girl. what the fuck

#anti destiel #anti casifer

[laf-outloud]

Ok, as someone who watches an unhealthy amount of CW shows, genuinely I don't understand people who hate on Jensen, Jared, or Misha for being bad actors. Because they are ALL bad actors, THAT'S why they're on a CW show. I love Supernatural, I love all three of them, but their acting skills are mediocre at best. And that's okay! I enjoy watching CW shows because they're melodramatic and fun without taking themselves too seriously. CW shows are like higher budget soap operas, you know exactly what caliber of acting and writing you're getting. I've just been thinking about this for awhile and wanted to ask fans and antis from all sides about this. While in anon, of course, because I DO NOT need this fandom coming for me. But I looked through your blog and you seemed nice and respectful enough. So, why do you see Misha as a bad actor compared to Jensen and Jared? And let me be clear, I don't hate Jensen, Jared, or Misha. I love all three of them and want them all to have successful careers post-SPN. So this isn't me attacking you for being anti-Misha. You just seemed like someone who might have a polite response to this question.

First off, watching tv is only unhealthy if it interferes with your daily life! LOL! (And thank you for thinking I'm nice and respectful - I try - most days).

In regards to bad acting, I'm no expert (my acting experience consists of business voice-overs and one line in my Junior High Christmas play), so what I share will be based on how I perceive things, certainly not from how an acting coach or director would see things.

I have to disagree with calling television actors/soap actors straight up bad. I think acting is relative and quality can be based on our expectations. I don't expect network tv actors to wow me like movie actors, but I do expect them to tell me a story without pulling me out of it by bad acting. What do I mean by this? If I'm watching a scene for the first time and an actor does something that makes me think, "Ouch, that line fell flat," or "What kind of acting decision was that?" then I'm no longer thinking about the scene or the character, I'm thinking about the actor instead. That's what I think of as bad acting.

As for J2M - I've put that below the break.

Speaking of noticing acting choices in a scene, the reason I refer to Misha as a bad actor is because he's the one on SPN that pulled me out of the story the most, and it didn't happen right away. I feel like he did a goo job with Castiel S4-6 as well as Castiel's return to form in S14's Lebanon when he had to play S4 Castiel again. I especially appreciated his nuance when he started to understand humanity and felt more like a fish out of water. It's his acting in the later seasons, particularly when he would play a separate character that I would full on cringe while watching it.

Bad examples include Casifer, The Empty, and AU German Nazi Cas. With Casifer, he actually practiced doing Mark P.'s version of Lucifer, except he was basing it off of Hallucifer, which was Sam's mind's interpretation. The real Lucifer was much more subtle and felt like a truly powerful being. In fact, Jared's Lucifer in 5.04 and at the end of S5 (and S15 dream sequences) was understated. I could feel the malevolence behind this all-powerful being. Casifer came off as a parody of what Lucifer should be, simply because Misha tried too hard. He lost the subtlety required to create that commanding presence. I was no longer watching Sam and Lucifer, I was watching Sam and Misha playing Lucifer.

His other characters, mentioned above, also felt like over-the-top caricatures. Jared and Jensen have proven with Lucifer, Michael, Gadreel, Demon Dean, etc. that you don't need to ham it up to inhabit a different character.

As for Nazi Cas? That was just an offensive choice by Misha that the directors let him get away with. There was no reason for Cas, the angel, who only showed up in recent years for the apocalypse to be German. It perpetuated the stereotype all Germans are Nazis, and therefore the villains.

And finally, Castiel's goodbye scene. I understand it was Misha's last scene, and there's certain to be some character bleed, but there was so much bleeding, I thought he was going to need a transplant. Cas' voice was gone, his stoicism, his posture, Cas just disappeared, and in his place was the actor.

I know those are the extreme examples from Misha, and I think he did fine with his other scenes later in the series, but he certainly wasn't helped by writers who didn't know what to do with him and had him standing around a lot of the time.

Anyway, I hope what I've said made some sense. I appreciate that your willing to seek out different opinions. If you get responses from other fans, I'd be interested to see how we differ.

P.S. If it helps, I also don't like Jared's acting choice in Walker when Cordell gets nervous. He's getting better about it, but his speech pattern takes on a staccato style, which can be annoying once you notice it.

#anti misha #misha's bad acting #jared critical #jensen critical #due to ask #anti casifer #anti au cas #cw critical due to ask #ask box #long post

[ladyofthelake]

Fuck this spn ep is so bad 😭😭😂It's a casifer one 11x18 and apart from a wynsync moment and Sam and Dean being adorable and hot this, to quote Bobby is balls, the casifer is so deeply wrong and terribly acted I don't know if I should be laughing I must have skipped this ep originally (because I dipped in and out from s12 onwards) or maybe I just erased this one from my memory lmao It's just so boring but also badly acted by you know who uuuuuugh and when they're exorcising him or whatever Misha looks like..it just looks so fucking awful 😂😂

#I try and be positive about things I normally love but wow I hate this #spn negative #anti casifer #anti castiel #just in case #anti lucifer #he's just a joke now 🙃

[ohpeachiekeen]

look i’m sorry but misha’s performance as lucifer is cringeworthy at best

#i’m not actually sorry but #anti castiel #anti misha collins #(just in case) #anti casifer #beth rewatches spn and has thoughts

[bfnbear]

B****es be crazy!! Casifer was amazing? Really? MC looked like he was taking a dump. The weird faces he kept making were an embarrassment. Mark P and Jared had the best portrayal of Lucifer. Personally I was not a fan of the Rick Springfield interpretation but he was better than MC.

☝??? Seriously??😂😂😂

#anti castiel #anti misha #anti cas stans #anti casifer #anti misha and his minions

[wincestshippingtrash2]

Lucifer: Who Wore it Better?

With the recent posts remembering the horrors of Casifer

I mean, I’m sorry, but it does look like he just smelled a fart in a crowded elevator, or maybe he is having gas pains himself.

I am reminded that judging by the following picture, the late Malcolm Young would have made a more convincing Lucifer, and he had no delusions whatsoever that he was an actor in any way, shape, or form. In fact, he was somewhat uncomfortable posing for pictures and was just trying to do what the photographer told him to do when this image was taken.

Rick Springfield did make a good Lucifer.

Mark Pelligrino owns the Lucifer role.

But hands down, Jared’s performance as Lucifer/Sam was the most nuanced. It was the subtle things which made Jared’s portrayal of Lucifer/Sam a masterpiece.

Interestingly, Pink Floyd seem to have been psychic. They were fans of Lucifer/Sam decades before Supernatural was even a thing!

#anti misha #lucifer/sam #anti casifer #lucifer supernatural #fuck you dementia

[eisforeidolon]

Look, I'm just gonna be that asshole and say it.  Someone should take Misha aside and clue him in that there's more involved in playing a different character than gurning and weird attempts at accents.

I'm even more convinced the writers never watch their own show.  Anybody that could sit through Casifer and still think having Misha play other parts was a good idea strikes me as either a masochist, a saboteur, or both.

#anti castiel #anti casifer #anti misha