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gabilina · 6 months
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Die for you
One of the reasons why people dislike Chaol so much is that he prefers Dorian over Aelin, remember…he said in KoA that he didn't want his friends to be kïlled. Then again…would Aelin die for Chaol?
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lorcandidlucienwill · 6 months
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Scared to post this one but... Sjm said that she fell in love with the ACOTAR characters after writing book one and then wrote all of book two and part of book 3. She then became obsessed with Rhysand and decided to insert him earlier than intended to make him a LI later on but otherwise kept the first book more or less the same. Sjm also said that in the original TOG Rowan was there from the beginning but he was never a love interest for the MC and then she rewrote the series to introduce Rowan a little later in Heir of Fire so he could be the LI. So there is a version of these series where Feylin and Chaolena are endgame. Chaol’s character suffered A LOT but thankfully he wasn’t turned full on into a tool, I loved him the whole time (tho many people disagree); Tamlin on the other hand, became more and more difficult to like because he was overwritten so many times to turn him into the bad guy bc there was absolutely no way anyone would choose Rhysand if Tamlin remained “nice,” and it’s really not a good romance if you have to pull down one character to bring up another. So despite BOTH sides making mistakes in BOTH relationships, the men bear the brunt of the blame. But part of being feminist is acknowledging that BOTH sides make mistakes. Making men look like the villain in a relationship to prop up the women is not feminism. This explains why the Feylin and Chaolena romantic development was so much better than for Feysand and Rowaelin; both were overwritten.
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highladyofterrasen7 · 3 months
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“Why do people hate chaol”
We hate chaol because for the longest time Celaena/aelin hated chaol. When reading you somewhat absorb the feelings of certain characters, with c/a’s dislike of him, we disliked him. She disliked him because he didn’t tell her of the threat to nehemia’s life which caused her to spiral into despair and we sympathised with her, after all the death of a friend you felt like you could’ve prevented is heartbreaking. It’s why due to ToD many people came to like chaol because the book was free of the bias that came with c/a’s pov.
And lots of people were able to overcome that and like chaol and ToD, some were not and some (like me) are somewhat on the fence
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tinasshelf · 4 months
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y’know maybe Chaol was onto something because I too loved Celaena Sardothien with my whole heart and disliked Aelin Ashryver Galathynius for a while till I came to terms with the fact that this is just how she is now and I have to learn to like it
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lady-riel · 4 months
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haven't popped in with a hot anti sjm take in a while so here we go
if Aelin was a man, everyone reading tog would say that he belongs in a maximum-security psychiatric facility, but because she's a woman that somehow makes it ✨girlboss✨
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loonylooly · 11 days
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This is gonna be really weird but I find it so offputting how its such a thing how Celaena never had sex with Sam and how she like feels bad about it or whatever. Idk if it's just me but that was weird. Like I'm sorry SJM but it was really odd how much thought you're putting into this 16 year old girl's sex life like PLS 😭
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oreo102 · 22 days
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I don’t think I’ve ever mention but I write btw… so like if you have prompts for any of the fandoms listed you can totally tell me and I will totally true to do it! (Also here’s my Ao3 account lmao https://archiveofourown.org/users/Oreo102 )
Fandoms I know enough to write about
Dr who- specifically 13’s era but I might be able to pull off River and Missy too (and 15 if you want a fic based only on my slightly deranged headcanons lmao)
3rd life/hermitcraft specifically Pearl, Cleo, Grian are the 3 I actually watch
MCU (no tony stark, I hate him)
Carmen sandiego
Hilda
Harry Potter (not super likely tho)
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ae-neon · 1 year
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Reading Throne of Glass (16-18)
Tw: has mentions of rape and suicide
Recap:
Princess Nehemia has arrived at the glass castle. She and Celaena clicked instantly.
The king departed on a secret voyage.
Kaltain Rompier remains pretty and rich as fuck.
One of the competitors died a mysterious and gruesome death.
The competition to find a Champion for the King finally started. Celaena might have found an ally in Nox Owen.
Chapter 16
Celaena and Chaol are having an early morning jog.
Celaena tells us Chaol is jogging and sweating lightly in a white shirt because she knows I'll eat it up. And I did.
Celaena throws up a lot. Like I get it's a physical reaction. But...vomiting hurts. The intense muscle cramps, the acid in your throat, it hurts. Vomiting like this everyday should and would damage her body.
2 weeks since Endovier. 10 days since arrival in the capital. 3 days since the 1st Test. Less than 1 month total. 4 days til the next elimination. Keeping score cause sjm timelines are hilarious.
Everything Chaol does is amazing.
Nevermind, as all men do, he immediately did something to show me I was wrong lol. Humbled and humiliated as I should be.
He sucked on his lower lip for a moment. “When did you get those?” She knew he meant the three enormous lines that ran down her back. “When do you think?” she said. He didn’t reply, (...) “Those three, I received my first day in Endovier.” “What did you do to deserve it?”
What if I jump through the page and curb stomp him
She stared at him without entirely seeing him as the ash-gray sky turned into the bleakness of Endovier, and the hiss of the wind became the sighing of slaves. No, it's actually so devastating, what happened to sjm?? This is such good writing.
The next day at practice, one of the competitors tries to run. Got killed instantly by the guards. So at least the castle security aren't chumps.
Again Celaena makes it clear that her escape attempt at Endovier was a suicide attempt. During her chat with Chaol the previous day would have been a better time to first reveal this. They also talk about a woman in the mines who was raped and murdered. Chaol asks if anyone tried to hurt Celaena in the same way
She says she would have killed anyone that tried. But a part of her wonders if Arobynn had paid for her "safety"
I think revealing the escape attempt was actually a suicide attempt would have tied all this together better:
Celaena sees what happened to that woman, she thinks about why no one has come for her yet and realises 2 things: 1) they eventually will come for her, maybe not a slave but a high up guard even and 2) if it is Arobynn keeping her "safe" it's not because he cares about her life but about her body
And then when she snaps, all of this leads her to the attempted suicide.
Dying—rather than playing in the king’s game—was the only choice left to him.
Chapter 17
The Queen and the Crown Prince are hosting a ball or a banquet, or something.
What had his father been thinking when he decided to host this contest? Dorian is asking the real questions.
The queen doesn't know about the competition and the criminals living in the castle? Divorce your husband, ma'am
...she was swathed in yards of forest-green velvet and floating scarves and shawls of gold, and her crown upheld a sparkling veil...
...he was wearing an outfit of his mother’s choosing, sent to him this morning: a vest of dark bluish-green velvet, with almost ridiculously billowy white sleeves bursting from the blue-and-white-striped shoulders. The pants, mercifully, were light gray, though his chestnut suede boots looked too new for masculine pride.
The Havilliards are dripped out.
Rhysand is somewhere crying, still wearing black on black when it's not Illyrian Leather Wednesdays
I like Queen Georgina.
She's worried Dorian frowns too much, he smiles apologetically, they talk about letters Hollin has sent from school - Hollin is naughty and hates school, Dorian was always well behaved - and she tells Dorian he needs to start thinking about marriage.
Do you wish to become king and die without an heir so Hollin can take the throne?” He didn’t answer. “I thought so.” lmao
This moment that hints towards Georgina being racist doesn't quite fit for me. There's something weird about how sjm is handling Eyllwe but that needs to be its own post.
Georgina is right. Dorian should marry Nehemia. (Again, if there's a fic, I need it)
But his father never did anything without a reason—and from the few words he’d exchanged with Nehemia, he couldn’t help but wonder if she had her own motivations in coming here, too.
???????????????????????
Dorian himself is a rebel who told his father to his face that he doesn't want to rule conquered kingdoms but we're supposed to believe he's suspicious of Nehemia because she's rumoured to side with the rebels and wanted to shut down a labour camp??
Dorian agrees with the second bit not because it's slave labour but because he saw "the horrors Endovier inflicted on Celaena Sardothien's body" ????
Celaena hates the kingdom of Ardalan and it's king because he is actively committing genocide but she's glad the people of the White Fang Mountains were oppressed to the point the women and children took their own lives rather than be captured... Because then Chaol - who is in Rifthold and not Anielle AND already gave up his lordship, so actually completely removed from the situation - wouldn't have to fight someone like Cain???
The answer is no. I refuse
“It’s a pity that Lady Kaltain has an agreement with Duke Perrington,” his mother went on. “She’s such a beautiful girl—and so polite. Perhaps she has a sister.”
I literally told y'all: Kaltain Rompier is hot af.
Sarah J Maas make a woman an antagonist without implying she's hypersexual or a sexual abuser challenge: failed.
I wouldn't be bothered or inclined to ignore something like that but it's 3 for 3 and men are never held to the same standard so just like sjm and her stans I'm gonna ignore what I wanna ignore. Sue me.
I like Dorian but SJM will not convince me to sympathise with a man - a prince of an empire, mind you - because he's bored of his nice life.
The idea that Dorian is dissatisfied and feels trapped by his position in life could and should have been conveyed better than that.
Some nobles started dancing, weaving in and out among each other. Many were his age, but he somehow felt as if there existed a vast distance between them. He didn’t feel older, nor did he feel any wiser, but rather he felt . . . He felt . . . He felt as if there were something inside him that didn’t fit in with their merriment, with their willing ignorance of the world outside the castle. It went beyond his title.
This is better.
I hate when authors write nobles or royals who are so surprised and offended at the idea of marriages arranged for power or the producing of heirs. Be serious for a moment, I'm begging you, you are making your character look insane.
Especially since it seems like Dorian has slept with many of these women before. He feels they are good enough to fuck but they aren't good enough to be his wife?? As if they themselves aren't nobles?? Jail.
This immediately makes him look like not just a misogynistic pos - which can maybe excused within the narrative context - it makes him look like a pompous brat, which clashes severely with his "actually smart and rebellious Prince wearing the mask of a flirty brat"
Dorian leaves the ball, restless and comes across Celaena training but...
There she was. Her golden hair shone as she wove in and out of a knot of three guards, her sword little more than a steel extension of her hand. She didn’t balk at the guards as she dodged and twirled around them. Someone began clapping to the left, and the four dueling figures stopped, panting. Dorian watched a grin spread across the assassin’s face as she beheld the source. The sheen of sweat illuminated her high cheekbones, and her blue eyes sparkled. Yes, she was truly lovely. But— Princess Nehemia approached, clapping. She was clad not in her usual white gown, but rather in a dark tunic and loose trousers, and she clutched an ornately carved wooden staff in one hand. The princess clasped the assassin on the shoulder, and said something to the girl that made her laugh.
Nehemia x Celaena >>>>
If Celaena really is sjm's self insert, she had to have had a crush on a girl around this time
Dorian: omg this assassin can't be alone with the Princess! I must intervene.
The Assassin and the Princess: 🤨🙄😒 ummm, we're literally in the middle of something, please leave?
She shrugged and made to turn away. Irritated, but slightly curious, he grabbed her arm. Her turquoise eyes glittered as she stared at his hand, and his heart quickened when her gaze rose to his face. Yes, sweaty as she was, she was beautiful.
"Aren’t you afraid of me?” She glanced at his sword belt. “Or are you as deft at handling your sword as Captain Westfall?” He stepped closer, tightening his grip. “Better,” he whispered in her ear. There: she was blushing and blinking.
I get what's happening but I still feel more for her interactions with Nehemia and Chaol.
“It simply can’t happen. She’s here to learn our customs, not to spar.”
“She’s a princess. She can do what she likes.”
Yea. I really like Celaena. Dorian is down 15 points.
Dorian and Nehemia sparing is unexpected but okay.
I get why this is happening and if the core 4 were our main characters throughout the series I wouldn't mind but I wish SJM had grown out of having every character be able to physically fight.
Chaol and Celaena being fighters make sense, Dorian and Nehemia being able to weapon play to some extent makes sense as well but I want there to be a clearer distinction between the warriors and the politicians.
Chapter 18
Celaena smiled as she watched the Crown Prince of Adarlan lead the Princess of Eyllwe through the basic steps of fencing.
Consider: polyamory
Ah, the first mention of Sam, Celaena's old assassin boyfriend I think. Everyone and their mom is sad about Sam.
Princess Nehemia lunged, slapping Dorian on the wrist with her sword. Celaena bit down her laughter. He grimaced and rubbed the sore joint, but then smiled as the princess began gloating. Damn him for being so handsome! She leaned against the wall and would have enjoyed the lesson had someone not grabbed her arm hard enough to hurt. “What is this?” Dragged from the wall, she found herself facing Chaol. “What is what?” “What is Dorian doing with her?” She shrugged. “Sparring?” “And why are they sparring?” “Because he volunteered to teach her how to fight?” Chaol practically shoved her from him as he approached the pair. They stopped, and Dorian followed Chaol to a corner. They spoke quickly—angrily—before Chaol came back to Celaena. “The guards will take you to your chambers.”
Excuse you?? Rude as hell.
“That’s absurd!” she cried, and a pinch from Chaol kept her voice down. not to bring irl problems into it but on a serious note, sometimes I really worry about Sarah Janet. Pinching, as a sort of warning or punishment for "acting out" is actually one of the most common precursors of domestic violence.
I'm not saying Chaol is abusive or anything. This story obviously stands alone and has morality which is constructed with its context in mind. But Sarah never stops including serious but subtle signs of domestic violence in her romances - even the ones she herself believes to be best. I'm not talking about forcing someone to hike until they collapse or keeping personal information from them or even lashing out in anger - small things like following up disparaging language with assurances of love, pinching, being overly nice to everyone else but telling one person they have to act a certain way to earn that same level of affection etc the little things slip through the cracks and poison the minds of impressionable people
Celaena brings up her vomiting and the damage to her body. Very well done.
Anyways Celaena and Chaol argue and he orders her back to her room. The second Test is coming up the next day.
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The familiar cracks are starting to show - sjm will build up her characters to be a certain way then betray their characterisation through hypocritical thoughts or actions. She does this to try to show the reader that the character is changing how they think for the sake of the love interest but we're two weeks and less than 20 chapters in. It just makes the characters look flaky.
Overall I'm still riding the high of it being so much better than acotar
Chaol and Dorian are both down points
Nehemia and Celaena are precious darlings
Queen Georgina Havilliard is a legend. I love moms being moms.
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westfall-castle · 2 years
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What do you really think about Aelin? Personally,  I think she's really rude. I'm not staying this because she is written to be confident in herself.  But I believe it is arrogance. We as an audience are gaslit into believing that she's just strong and doesn't take crap. But so was Nehemia,  but the difference between Nehemia is that she isn't arrogant, but Aelin is.
Also there is the issue about her making "plans", that include no-one. I'm pretty sure that's not how you run things. It's pretty selfish to not tell anyone about your plans (like what happened to Aedion), and it's pretty selfish to be physically angry about someone who has a different of opinion than she did ( like Dorian talking about freeing manon in EOS).
Hahahaha, I’m sweating cold with this question because I have a feeling that when I answer, Aelin fans are gonna come for my head with torches and pikes. Still... ilysm for asking this, you're my crush, send you kisses and I agree with you on many levels.
My opinion: Its just too much to understand her anymore. It's like that movie, Split with James McAvoy. I heavily suspected dissociative identity disorder at some point 🤣. Aelin should be at least 45 to have lived all she has lived. It gives me the impression that SJM had to pick ONE main character for her fantasy books, either a girlboss pirate, a young assasin in a mens' world, a medieval courtier with a secret agenda, a gifted magician or a queen from a lost kingdom and she said "fuck it, i'll take them all". There would be no problem with this IF the character stayed consistent, if there were enough TIME but... SHES 19 IN THE FINAL BOOK. I mean...
Her personality traits just keep appearing left and right and us, as readers, don't get accountability for these new ways of behaving. She's feminine when it suits her but then bashes femininity in the next chapter. She's "one of the boys" but also a "girlboss". She's crazy and manic but also mighty and merciful. The only thing that remains constant might be her sense of humor. Her moral compass is a mess and there comes a point where she's truly unpredictable. It seems that she behaves according to what the plot needs in the moment.
For example; She's a girlboss feminist who is willing to teach Yrene how to defend herself and seems to have intentions of "empowering" women around her but then looks down on "soft" vulnerable women, rolling her eyes and mentally shaming and judging on multiple ocassions throughout the books and even saying things like (quoting one of her lines when she meets Philippa, her personal maid.) " Why send such a soft woman to serve her? She'd outpower her in a heartbeat". (And yes, Assassin’s Blade happened before TOG, is she evolving backwards?)
The books center so much in praising her through the point of view of multiple characters that we do not get enough introspection on her behalf. If anything we are swayed into a new tragedy/ battle/ moment of suffering where we only see her brooding over herself or past events as if making her suffer more and more somewhat was the way to revindicate her instead of her having a moment thinking to herself " well, I fucked up, things were not as I thought and I see it now".
Everyone owes her everything even if she was wrong sometimes and never accepted it. She has way too many life debts to call in the end and SHES ONLY 19. That’s why many readers felt in KoA that whenever Aelin and the plot hit a dead end, she just had to send a letter and 8 new powerful allies came claiming they owed her their lives. COME ON 😂 There’s a difference between writing fantasy and magically solving plots with unrealistic arguments.
I think what I hate most is the gaslighting of the narrative. as you mention. There are times where she's being arrogant, mean or condescending and instead of getting a REALISTIC and UNBIASED perspective we just get a Rowan POV chapter saying something like "It was not a plain woman but a queen standing before them" or "It was a queen's voice speaking" and then, as if it was not enough it follows another simping POV (usually Aedion) saying also " Wow, it was not his cousin speaking but a queen before them" like... NO STFU she's not right this time hahahah, and when exactly did she become so high and mighty.
Another example is how she fn ADORES to splurge on dresses on Assassin’s Blade but the moment she meets Kaltain and eavesdrop her conversation in the gardens Kaltain says that her own dress is ‘so old’ despite being practically new and Celaena’s reaction is ‘ugh, these air-headed women’ instead of maybe not pointing it out or even find it relatable. I know that this tells us more about Kaltain, so that we understand the type of person she is, but I still don’t like the harsh judgement Celaena seems to have about specific traits of her personality. Readers are gaslit into believing this change comes from her time in Endovier and now she’s so centered and appreciative and morally superior but THEEEEN in Crown of Midnight she LITERALLY DOES THE SAME, buying more clothes and jewels than she can wear, becoming suddenly a little bit cocky saying things like ‘ugh, these tacky clothes, I wouldn’t be caught dead in those’ . Come on girl, don’t be judgy when you’re the same.
I loved Celaena in Throne of Glass (BOOK 1) . Up until this point it was a tight character, I liked her personality, her internal monologue was funny and relatable. The events that had happened in her life were somehow believable (even if it’s a fantasy book) Her moral compass was clear for the reader and we had this concept of "rogue with certain moral values/ chaotic good" persona. When Aelin comes though... Idk anymore, It feels so inconsistent. She's just... everything, she has 8 different personalities at the same time, it's like she was an A03 fic and she had ALL THE TAGS, all the tropes. She gets away with the bad things she does too easily. In the end I was happy she was happy and never came to hate her but its just too much going on for one character.
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gabilina · 3 months
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Sarah J Maas and her beloved Rowaelin
So… long time ago I was sitting in my room relaxing, when I found an interesting post on Instagram. The creator of this post goes by a nickname @yaz.the.bookish
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smolandweirdwriter · 11 months
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look SOMEONE has to say it and it might as well be me
dunyasha is the shadow and bone universe’s celaena sardothien/aelin galathynius
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noitsbecky127 · 1 year
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Chapters: 2/? Fandom: Throne of Glass Series - Sarah J. Maas Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Aelin Ashryver Galathynius | Celaena Sardothien/Nehemia Ytger Characters: Aelin Ashryver Galathynius | Celaena Sardothien, Chaol Westfall, Dorian Havilliard, Nehemia Ytger, King of Adarlan (Throne Of Glass), Kaltain Rompier Additional Tags: Canon Rewrite, Rewrite, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Lesbian Celaena Sardothien, Fantastic Racism, Fandom Blind Friendly Series: Part 1 of what about the nobodies, the invisible girls? Summary:
Celaena Sardothien has been plucked from Endovier’s salt mines for a competition of sorts. The prize? Becoming the King of Adarlan’s personal assassin. Her plan is simple: win, survive, and eventually become a free woman. Unfortunately, things are never as straightforward as they're expected to be. ______ Fellow SJM antis, I’m working on a rewrite. Enjoy!
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woeddbeanna · 2 years
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I started reading the throne of glass and after a measly ten pages I can say that I am Celaena anti.
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Round 2
Propaganda why Marinette Dupain-Cheng is insufferable:
She easily gets away with bad, stalkerish behavior, it always feels like she can ‘do no wrong’ unless the show wants us to pity her, and the show writers want us to think she is a quirky and socially awkward girl when throughout the series we see her be friends with basically everyone in Paris with many connections to high up places.
I get she has social anxiety but the way she goes about stalking Adrien is kind of the worst like she even has creep shots of him hanging in her room? That’s weird. I think Adrien’s going through enough without having to deal with the main character being his stalker lol. I know they’re (spoilers) at this point but in the beginning it was so sus
In the newest season, Marinette hides the fact that Hawkmoth was Adrien’s dad. This leads to the bastard getting a statue and honored as a hero after his death. Adrien now never gets to know the fact that his abusive and neglectful father was the one trying to kill him and is instead proud of him.
Her crush on Adrien is like a black hole for her character. Things she’s done because of it:
1) stolen property
2) ruined dates
3) humiliated other characters
4) has a chart of Adrien’s daily schedule for the next year in her room (this is stalking)
5) broke into his room and sniffed his pillow (also a crime)
6) sniffed, took the hair from, and tried to kiss what she thought was a wax statue of Adrien
7) convinced her parents to let her go to China. Why? Not because she wants to connect with her mother’s heritage, not even because she’s a budding fashion designer and Shanghai is considered a fashion hotspot. It’s because Adrien was there.
I started the show, watched one episode, and never tried again. I simply do not vibe with her.
shes annoyinng anf shes a stalker
I love fanon miraculous but by god she has got to stop obsessively stalking her crush and generally making a ton of other terrible decisions. I’d submit Adrien too but he’s more of a deuteragonist
More propaganda
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Propaganda why Aelin Ashryver Galathynius is insufferable:
Your basic Mary Sue. Styled as the incredibly cool best-assassin in the land at only 18, she nevertheless is constantly snuck up upon, distracted by pretty boys, and possesses not an ounce of wit. In a competition between murderers and thieves to win a place as the King's Champion, she sees a bag of chocolates on her bed that she didn't put there and immediately starts eating it and gushing about how much she adores chocolate - nevermind that they just had a trial involving poison, which several of her competitors are adept at. She's always right, and other characters exist just to tell her how awesome and beautiful and wonderful she is. And then she turns out to be a super special magical fey princess!
I generally don't believe that a Mary Sue is a bad thing, but the only thing I remember about this book was how she had been in prison for years but was super young but was also still the most super-specialest assassin. And she kept reading when she should have been training or sleeping. Like, girl, this is not final exams where you can stay up all night and then roll into class in your pajamas and still squeak out a C. It's supposed to be life and death. Her character traits didn't make her relatable, they made her a moron
Heir to a kingdom plus turquoise eyes plus best assassin in the world plus protagonist centered morality
Anti propaganda
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wiltingcrowns · 11 months
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question. why is it that people can associate and judge some characters by real world standards (lucien, nesta, potentially every other damn character) that doesn't agree/like/tolerate the ic's and rhysand's actions but also at the same time proceed to judge rhysand and the ic by sjmverse standards and to say 'yeah, it's okay because they're doing to protect their mate and they wear a mask whilst being seen by other characters torturing othera and being cruel''?
as someone who was sa'd and as someone who was seen as of enjoying it per the mouth of the assailant, i genuinely find it disgusting and uncomfy that this fandom can defend rhysand by saying he was doing it to protect feyre and that she enjoyed it. he could and should have left her alone.
and by my analysis and rereading of acotar/tog (just as an example), the sjmverse standards are as of follows;
- sexual assault/harassment. (utm as an example)
- keeping information from the mother of your child that she could die if she was to give birth. it was to protect her? bullshit.
- to lock a mentally struggling and depressed woman into a house with 10,000 steps because you're doing it to protect her. (rhysand and co. to nesta.) whilst also (and rightfully) slandering tamlin for the same to feyre in acomaf. but you won't slander rhysand for doing the same to nesta? hypocrisy whom?
- hitting/abuse. (rowan to aelin into hof.) this is seen as somehow okay because rowan is attractive and celaena said something nasty whilst severely depressed.
- verbal. i'll name some examples; rowan threatening to whip celaena, cassian (one of your favourites) repetitively threatening 'if you don't get off that rock by the end of this week, what happens to you is out of my hands' and emotionally tormenting nesta with 'everybody hates you,' and rhysand threatening to kill nesta.
- war crimes. stealing from the summer court and shapeshifting into its high lord (a dark skinned male). attacking the high lord of autumn and the lady of autumn at the acowar meeting. wrecking a court for revenge whilst on the brink of war (if not a war crime, just a case of wtf). violating the minds of so many people that it is perceived as okay.
and somehow all these (^) things are considered okay and can be excused because it's rhysand and co? however, if nesta was to call a character a mean name she gets wrecked for it? in acosf, she called rhysand a prick and states he isn't her high lord? and my god, the backlash she received from her own mate? you don't even need to be a nesta anti to slander the poor woman.
i did not want to make this post but since we're at the point of sliding into people's inboxes as anons and slandering people, i have made this post and i shall post it.
-zelds. :(
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the-savage-garden · 1 year
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Rewriting Celaena thing...
I’ve only ready the first half of Throne Of Glass so I can only infer what kind of character Celaena is from what I’ve seen in the anti tags and what I’ve read so far but this is something I want to get off my chest. Reading TOG has reminded me that I want to improve my writing so I want to work on figuring out how to write a compelling character and not make the same mistakes that SJM does, might do this for her other characters depending on if I’m feeling up to it.
So, Celaena is a weird character. She’s both an assassin and a long lost princess at the same time. It could work but not the way the character is presented in the book.
If I wrote such a character there are a few ways I could go with someone like her.
1. Start the story with a prologue of when Celaena was a child back before the downfall of her kingdom and have her end up wanting revenge on the Kingdom of Adarlan by becoming an assassin and taking down the kingdom from the inside. Maybe she has some kind of benefactor to help her too? But then skip to years later and she still had that year in the salt mines but no one has any clue that she’s the lost princess maybe she has facial scars or something that makes her unrecognizable. Pretty much the rest of the story goes as is I suppose (even though I hate that whole ‘Champion’ nonsense).
2. Have this whole story just be how Celaena becomes the villain and this is now a dark fantasy instead (I find the idea of villain protagonists to be fun).
3.The lost princess and assassin are two different characters now instead. Celaena works for the King of Adarlan (does he even have a name?) and meets Princess Aelin who's essentially a prisoner (she replaces Nehemia, sorry, but she’ll still be apart of the story she just won’t be under Adarlan anymore) and the two end up scheming together against the king (there is no ‘Champion’ contest in this anymore).
4. And something completely off the rails, still two separate characters like above, Celaena is the body double of Princess Aelin who is in a safe location (maybe with Nehemia?) to protect the princess from an assassination attempt. (I’m not sure if there already is a story like this but I wouldn’t be surprised, so maybe not this one)
OR
5. Aelin is a tyrant and Celaena is going to assassinate her. Shenanigans happen.
This doesn’t really criticize SJM’s writing exactly but I wanted to throw this together anyway. I don’t even feel like putting this in drafts so I’m posting this.
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