#anti christopher hayden

[jessmmariano]

Just saw a comment on the Gilmore Girls subreddit that Jess was exactly like Christopher and Logan was exactly like Luke…closed the app after that one. 😬

#the sheer amount of Logan fans who love Logan and hate Christopher needs to be studied #did they all miss the scene where Logan and Christopher met and were identical #also how tf is Jess like Christopher 😭 #Jess’s whole thing is rejecting wealth and calling out privilege… #threw up in my mouth a little after reading that comment #the Gilmore girls subreddit is unironically garbage #Gilmore girls tumblr >>> #this is my safe haven #rory gilmore #gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #jess mariano #stars hollow #luke danes #literati #rory x jess #anti christopher hayden #christopher hayden #anti logan huntzberger

[emmafallsinlove]

i cannot stress this enough how annoyed i am to think about how dean and logan got to meet christopher but jess didn't..... because they knew jess would call him out on his bullshit and we, as the audience, we deserved it <3

#jess mariano #anti christopher hayden #gilmore girls #or speaks now

[frazzledsoul]

Probably preaching to the choir here, but I find the constant revisionism regarding Christopher Hayden's sporadic attempts at fatherhood rather frustrating.

I often see his fans argue that Lorelai "kept Rory away from him and refused to let him participate" and that "she made it uncomfortable for him." But did she? She declined his marriage proposal because he was uninterested in Rory from the beginning. She left home and moved thirty minutes away, worked her way up to a middle-class life, and made it clear he was free to do whatever the fuck he wanted. We're told he calls Rory every week (I find this unconvincing, but whatever), he sees her on holidays, he knows how to find Rory and Lorelai when he finally visits them 14-15 years after they move there. It sure doesn't sound like Lorelai hid her away and didn't tell Christopher where they lived or refused to allow him to visit her. Not to mention that we are explicitly told in season 1 that she's "always held the door open to her, you just never wanted to use it" and he agrees.

The other thing she tells Rory in that S1 episode is that "he's going to come and go as he pleases, hon, you know that." Contrary to the belief that she kept Rory away from him, she actually is super accommodating any time he wants to show up and contribute and she never rebukes him for all the times he didn't feel like it. She doesn't appear to ever ask him for money or criticize him for being a bad dad and of course, she keeps sleeping with him any time he does anything half-decent. She's raised Rory to think that it's inevitable he's going to treat them like crap and only show up when it's convenient for him and that they can never be mad at him or hold it against him because she didn't marry him when he offered so long ago. The idea that he had a responsibility to Rory regardless of whether Lorelai was willing to be in a relationship with him is not a reality in their world. It doesn't help that both sets of grandparents seem to blame the entire situation on Lorelai and don't expect Christopher to contribute in any way.

And of course, Christopher doesn't really care about Rory. He's mostly eager to act like a dad when there are cracks in Lorelai's relationship with Luke and he senses an opportunity to get in her pants (he usually succeeds at this). Once that opportunity goes away, he disappears. He drops out of Rory's life once Gigi is born. He doesn't appear to be in contact with her after he and Lorelai divorce until it's time for her graduation. After Lorelai stops talking to him once she reconciles with Luke in the post-OS period, he stops talking to Rory, too. Even the offer to pay for the second half of Rory's college education only comes when he inherits a bunch of money he didn't earn and offers to buy *Lorelai* anything she wants until Rory reorients his offer towards something practical. Rory is a means to get to Lorelai and not much more. And of course, we know from AYITL that he sends Gigi away to her mother eventually as well, giving up on her too.

This is not to say that Lorelai always behaves perfectly. She avoids telling Rory about Christopher requesting to make holiday plans with her for a few days and she does a lot to poison Rory against Christopher/Sherry in S3 because SHE'S mad at him for rejecting her and Rory feels she has to take her side. Still, I don't feel this is equal to all of Christopher's neglect and at any rate Rory is a big girl now, a legal adult, and can develop a relationship with her dad beyond her mom if she wants. Christopher doesn't appear to be terribly interested.

(Oh, and the aforementioned S2/S3 behavior is why you shouldn't be best friends with your daughter, as it's inevitable that your hurt feelings will get in the way of what's best for her and her relationship, however frayed, with her other parent. That is another topic, though).

In the end, all this does have a profound effect on Rory. She's often submissive in her relationships (especially with Dean) and lets problems fester instead of dealing with them because that's what's been modeled for her. She also regularly cheats with old boyfriends because her parents taught her that you always have a claim on your first love and that overrides whatever commitment you're currently making. And of course, in the AYITL era she seems to have copied his life patterns a bit too much, as she's got no real incentive to change at this point.

Lorelai wasn't too hard on him. She was way too easy on him and put up with too much of his shit over the years, and that had its own reverberations. Both Lorelai and Rory should have been allowed to be angry at him for his neglect. It never happened.

#unoriginal thoughts #anti christopher hayden #lorelai gilmore #rory gilmore #gilmore girls

[anxiouspotatorants]

@stellaluna33 said: « […] Rory both loving her dad AND feeling abandoned by him makes her kind of subconsciously want to "fix" that relationship vicariously. If she can be enough to keep Logan interested in her, that's almost like being good enough to make her dad want to stay.»

Stella you are killing me with this analysis. Not because it isn’t great (it is and I 100% agree) but because it makes me feel so much for Rory ;-;

#rory really just wants to be good enough for people #but when will she start to ask if THEY’RE good enough for HER #gilmore girls #rory gilmore #anti logan huntzberger #anti christopher hayden #for filtering purposes

[liesmultixxx]

LOGAN immediately being there for rory when richard was in the hospital is PROOF that he is NOT her christopher… christopher couldn’t be bothered to come and be there for lorelai whereas LUKE didn’t hesitate for one second to be there for her… much to think about

#gilmore girls #rory gilmore #logan huntzberger #rory x logan #rogan #lorelai gilmore #lorelai x luke #javajunkie #otp #christopher hayden #anti christopher hayden #i will die on this fucking hill

[mzannthropy]

Gilmore Girls might be called a comfort show, but I find a lot of the writing frustrates me.

Rory telling Christopher not to call Lorelai anymore was such a powerful scene, but it accomplished nothing, bc two or three episodes later, Lorelai is back on the Christopher bs. Problem is, Lorelai was not yet ready to let Christopher go completely. She first needed to properly get over him, forget any notion of them ever making it as a couple one day, extinguish that torch she had carried for him for years--and that should have been followed by Rory's speech. Imagine, when Chris called Lorelai bc he didn't know what to do with Gigi, imagine Lorelai telling him: "well, tough, she's your kid, not mine, bye!" When Chris actually complied with Rory's wish and stopped calling Lorelai, it was so disappointing to see Lorelai contacting him and inviting him to the Dragonfly like a pickme (sorry I know this word is overused these days, but what else am I gonna call her). Rory at least had a good idea to snub him when he came to see her at Yale--but then, of course, Christopher's dad had to die and all that badassery was trashed. Imagine Lorelai's reaction to news of Strobe's (or whatever his stupid name was) death: "awww, RIP. What's for dinner?" Both G-girls crawling back to him with cookies and alcohol. Worst of all, Lorelai lying to Luke. It's just so... frustrating!

It's also unfortunately very human, and no doubt you've witnessed instances of similar behaviours irl. (Heck, I once deluded myself believing I could have stayed friends with my ex-husband.) But that's why we want better from stories.

Anyway, just wanted to write that out.

#gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #rory gilmore #anti christopher hayden #mypost

[rogersstevie]

i know some people think that lorelai was always holding out for christopher and that's why they had to get married to show that it wouldn't work and i do wish they'd been given a proper chance to play out in season 3 instead of sherry getting pregnant because that would've put an end to it once and for all and kept it from being an issue with luke but honestly i think the holding out for him thing DID stop after season 3, seeing him with sherry and gigi and everything and if that did not cement it, it's clear she did not consider the possibility anymore at all once she was with luke unlike when she was with max like yeah christopher affected their relationship but that was because of luke's jealousy, not because lorelai was ever thinking about "what ifs" at that point in her life

like if asp had not thrown in that season 6 finale, no way would she and christopher have gotten together while she and luke were broken up. it literally all happened bc of christopher making things happen, like we don't see it but she was very vulnerable when she went to him and i just doubt she initiated things and then he keeps pushing her about dating and then he's the one who pushes her into marriage too. i just. i think by season 5 the part of lorelai that was still in love with christopher didn't exist anymore or at least was very small and no longer had power over her. it's not just bitterness over how the whole thing was written, i just really don't think we needed to see the relationship play out at that point because it was very clearly over for lorelai. he would always be her first love and the father of her child, but he wasn't the man she was hoping to someday get it right with, that ship had sailed and she knew it, even if he never did

#gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #anti christopher hayden #probably idk

[disasterbiwriter]

I really enjoy the Gilmore Women newsletter, albeit from a media literacy standpoint (not necessary from a Fandom standpoint.) I don't agree with everything they say but this had me stand up and shout Amen.

#Gilmore Women #substack #Gilmore Girls #Anti Christopher Hayden #anti dean forester #anti logan huntzberger

[yamirexic]

anti christmas "kill mas"

jack skellington - the jins (only acceptable christmas song)

all I want for christmas is you - mcr (only acceptable version of this horrible overplayed song)

custer - slipknot

hey you! - the anxiety (willow and tyler cole)

slutgarden - marilyn manson

in bloom - nirvana (my official kill mas song)

I'm not okay - mcr

super sadist - jack off jill

tears dry on their own - amy winehouse

break on through - the doors

jesus of suburbia - green day

purple haze - jimi hendrix

the title reminded me of "Anti Christ Superstar" xD (I don't support Marilyn Manson's wrong doings, the music is just really good)

#funny shit #music #playlist #christmas #it's time #x mas #anti christopher hayden #anti x mas #rebel #rebellion #punk rock #punk #pop punk #punk music #punk style #jack off jill #joj #mcr #i miss my wife #my chemical romance #emo #nirvana #nevermind #amy winehouse #the doors #jim morrison #marilyn manson #antichrist superstar #willow smith #slipknot

[femmedefandom]

side eye at how Lorelai in season 2 starts sleeping together with Christopher in full view of the gossip happy SH with zero shame (grinning like a fool to be exact) despite the fact that he’s still together with his long time live in girlfriend Sherry/Cheri, not sure how she spells it. Christopher is so cavalier about the relationship being basically done even though he hasn’t even TALKED TO HIS GIRLFRIEND about breaking up, he’s just ghosting at this point. nothing but happiness to be with the guy she has “so much history with”, who people thought she would end up with, who has always been on the back burner of possibility now that he has his life together. even though he’s not broken up. even though S/C thinks they’re still together. even though separation hasn’t even been discussed with the girlfriend or Rory. none of this matters to Lorelai because Christopher is hers. And then it blows up in her face with the pregnancy. So when Rory starts up a sexual relationship with a guy she has history with, who was always on the back burner pining for her, who people said she should be with, who is still together with his wife but the “relationship is over”……why wouldn’t she think her mother would support her?

#gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #rory gilmore #anti christopher hayden #anti dean forester #anti lorelai gilmore #Lorelai is not a model for healthy relations #Christopher and Dean are scumbags #Rory is a confused and manipulated kid with bad role models who made a dumb choice when emotionally vulnerable

[jessmmariano]

One thing I will never understand is how Logan fans hate Christopher. Like, they hate him with a passion. I mean, I’m sorry to break it to you but they’re so similar, like did we not all see the scene where they met and instantly clicked/showcased all their similarities? 💀✋

#anti rory x logan #anti logan huntzberger #anti christopher hayden #rory gilmore #gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #jess mariano #luke danes #stars hollow #literati #rory x jess

[emmafallsinlove]

I know my love should be celebrated... but you tolerate it

#ggedit #ggedits #gilmoregirlsedit #christopherhaydenedit #rorygilmoreedit #christopher x rory #rory gilmore #anti christopher hayden #christopher hayden #lorelaigilmoreedit #lorelai gilmore #lorelai x rory #tsuserannie #tsusertalia #tuserella #tusernoa #tuserhaz #userelyn #userdanahscott #reputayswift #nessa007 #lorelaigilmo #gilmore girls #mine** #I HATE CHRISTOPHER SO MUCH #I HOPE THIS GIFSET MAKE SENSE IDK

[frazzledsoul]

The early Gilmore Girls backstory about how much contact Rory had with Christopher makes no sense. Christopher fans and Lorelai detractors claim that she ran (thirty minutes) away and didn't tell Christopher where she went and he had no clue where she was for years....yet Rory recognized him when he shows up, he knows how to get to Stars Hollow, and we're told that Rory sees him on holidays. Only on holidays? Why, yes, because he has never visited Stars Hollow even though Rory has lived there for a decade and a half. I guess he just sees Rory in Hartford? Again, Stars Hollow is THIRTY MINUTES AWAY. This cannot be that hard.

We're also told that he calls once a week, which seems unusual given that he only sees Rory a few times a year and won't actually go near her house. That's the kind of arrangement you have with a parent you have semi-regular visits with, not someone you see twice a year and who (probably) doesn't pay a dime in child support. Yet when Lorelai is engaged to Max for an entire summer he doesn't know until right before the wedding. He's calling every week and it NEVER comes up? This seems unlikely. Then his number gets randomly disconnected and it turns out he moved across the country to settle down with Sherry and never gave Rory or Lorelai his new number. Again, he talks to them every week and he never mentioned he was thinking of doing this? All summer? Three months, twelve phone calls, it never comes up? And he doesn't tell them his new number until after the fact?

Then a few months later Christopher calls to ask if Rory can spend part of the holidays with him and Lorelai delays telling Rory about it (the one time she actively does anything to "keep" Rory from Christopher). Rory asks if Christopher has called Lorelai and mentions that he always checks in at this time of year. Okay, so he's not calling every week, then?

None of this makes any sense unless you figure "every week" is a gross exaggeration and maybe Christopher checks in every couple of months at the most. And to point it out once again: Lorelai tells Christopher in that first episode that the door's always been held open to Rory, he just hasn't tried to use it, and he agrees...she also tells Rory that Christopher is going to come and go as he pleases and they just have to deal with it (actually, you don't, not if you make him pay child support, have regular visits, and set some boundaries with him. But that's another issue).

#random late night thoughts #anti christopher hayden #gilmore girls

[roeyliteratiforever]

Hi how are you?

I was just wondering why you don’t like Lucas and Peyton?

Also who are your top 10 worse couples in tv?

You already said Lucas and Peyton, Ross and Rachel and Blair and Chuck. So apart from these ones.

So who else? I am curious :)

Hope you have a lovely day

Hi Anon! 🥰

I'm doing pretty good thank you for asking! 🥺

Yes I know Roschel, Leyton and Chair are some of my biggest notps for sure. I do want to also say that even if you ship these couples that is okay or anyone who likes these couples I have no issue with it at all! Anyone should be able to ship what they want!

I don't really have an exact order of notps but here are my top 10 in no particular order really that I could never get behind!

Christopher and Lorelai

Dean and Rory

Logan and Rory

Lane and Zack

Ross and Rachel

Chuck and Blair

Dawson and Joey

Lucas and Peyton (until season 6 they were better in season 6 but not enough for me to ship them personally)

Dan and Serena

Kelso and Jackie

I'm sorry if this list hurt you or anyone else if you love any of these ships that's perfectly fine I personally just don't have a fondness of these ships!

Thank you for the ask and, I hope you have a lovely day! 🥰

#anti logan huntzberger #anti rogan #anti dean forester #anti chuck bass #anti chair #anti derena #anti christopher hayden #anti kelso #anti jelso #anti leyton #anti ross and rachel #anti roschel #anti lucas and peyton #anti dawson and joey #anti dawsey #Gilmore girls #team jess #literati

[liesmultixxx]

luke punching christopher will forever be one of the most iconic scenes in gilmore girls

#dailygg #gilmore girls #luke danes #anti christopher hayden

[petpluto]

I just can’t imagine a world in which you watch Gilmore Girls and come away with the idea that Christopher could have been a good father, if only Lorelai let him.

#gilmore girls #I’m shading this woman on Facebook #but this is just how I feel #and now I’ve been sitting here seething for like 2 hours #lorelai gilmore #anti christopher hayden