#anti dean forester

[stellaluna33]

It's interesting to me that, while Dean is very respectful to Lorelai herself, he is at several points pretty disparaging about Rory's relationship with her. "Well, you just feel that way because your mother feels that way," and "I say I love you, and you want to think about it? Go home and discuss it with your mother?"

And Jess is less respectful to Lorelai herself, but he never says anything against Rory's relationship with her, never seems annoyed or resentful of it. He sometimes expresses resentment about Lorelai's hatred of him, but never about Rory's closeness to her, even though he could have at various points and even though he probably doesn't understand it. And it's interesting to me, because Jess antis would probably assume that he's the one who would be saying things like the quotes above, trying to drive a wedge between them, but he never does. It's the "nice" guy that Lorelai likes so much.

#Gilmore Girls #Anti Dean Forester #(for filtering purposes anyway) #Jess Mariano #Like... He doesn't like her but he seems to respect that Rory DOES #And Dean is the opposite. It's SO interesting!

[emmafallsinlove]

#same jess same

#ggedit #ggedits #gilmoregirlsedit #jessmarianoedit #dean forester #jess mariano #reputayswift #tuserhaz #tuserelyn #tusernoa #lorelaigilmo #nessa007 #tsusermeggie #tsusertalia #tsuserannie #tuserella #anti dean forester #gilmore girls #* #he was so right about that

[femmedefandom]

I think the stupidest thing about the whole bracelet debacle in 2x15 is the fact that Jess doesn’t know. He has no idea that the bracelet Rory wore was a gift from Dean and that apparently being his girlfriend means she is contractually obligated to wear it at all times to prevent a meltdown of epic proportions. All he knew was it was her bracelet and it was left right beside him after their friendly lunch/quasi first date…and that she never brought up the fact that is was gone after meeting with him. Jess wasn’t some master plotter or anything in this situation, he didn’t expect to start a fight with Dean or to upset Rory at all. In fact, the moment he finds out about the bracelet, he makes sure the house is empty and puts it right back in Rory’s room. And then Lorelai in all her infinite biased wisdom assumed that he…stole it off her daughter’s wrist without Rory noticing? Snuck in at night and robbed her jewelry box? What did she think happened exactly? And then Jess, who has had maybe 30 minutes tops to process the bracelet and all it’s connotations, hits back with the hardest truth of all. The one that Rory and Lorelai seemed determined not to think too deeply about: if it’s the most precious thing she owns, why did it take Rory two weeks to even notice it being gone?

I love that he says that, partly because I can’t always keep track of time skips in the show but also because it meant that Rory didn’t take it off for two weeks, didn’t put it on in the morning to go to school, didn’t fidget with it while she was distracted, didn’t have it bend a paper or get mashed potatoes on it, didn’t have it roll under her sleeve….she cared so little about this “symbol of Dean” that she was perfectly happy until he blew up about it being gone.

#rory gilmore #gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #jess mariano #lorelai’s unreasonable hatred of jess #anti dean forester #gilmore girls 2x15

[jessmmariano]

Jess’s ‘get in there and make me my supper’ line towards Dean in the dance marathon episode is so underrated because that’s exactly the type of girl Dean wants and Jess could tell. He probably didn’t know about the Donna Reed thing, either, he could just tell.

#Dean is so obsessively possessive he makes it obvious #jess mariano #rory gilmore #anti dean forester #gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #stars hollow #luke danes #literati #rory x jess

[staliaqueen]

Mal's Gilmore Girls rewatch: Application Anxiety 3.03

#ggrewatch #gilmore girls #gifs #anti dean forester #gilmoregirlsedit #ggedit #useramys12 #teendramaedit #usergif #userthing #smallscreensource #okay i generally try to gif moments for this series that i haven't really seen giffed before but with this one i couldn't resist lol

[frazzledsoul]

The primary reason Lorelai prefers Dean to Rory's other boyfriends (to the point where it seems that Lorelai is enjoying the relationship far more than Rory is) is because Dean is so controlling and demands that Rory spend every waking moment with him, to the point where she doesn't have time for any outside interests or friends. Rory can't be swayed by the rich kids at Chilton or their hard-partying lifestyle that got Lorelai in trouble if Dean monopolizes all her time (the only person she socializes with there is Paris, another outcast). Her only real friend at Stars Hollow High is Lane, another sheltered only child with a highly constricted social life. Rory is constantly negotiating with Dean to get him to go to events, because he doesn't want her to go alone or to spend time with other people. Much of their time is spent just hanging out with Lorelai, with Dean as a sidekick to Rory and Lorelai's domestic routines. Dean keeps Rory's world small, tied to Lorelai and Stars Hollow, with no room to contemplate life outside of the bubble that Lorelai created. He heavily micromanages Rory's social life and Lorelai likes that, to the point where she is constantly encouraging Rory to not do anything to upset him, to anticipate his wrath, to forget about her attraction to Jess who she tells her doesn't really like her because he moved onto Shane when Rory wouldn't take him seriously as an option. She needs to stay with Dean to make Lorelai happy, because Rory (unwisely) views her as having better judgment in romantic matters and she wants to please her mom.

Jess is a threat because he reminds Lorelai of the person she was when she was a teenager, wild and rebellious and itching to escape from the life she didn't want. Jess is not made for Stars Hollow: he represents all of the art and the literature and the worldly adventures that Rory dreams of experiencing someday. He's a force that's going to pull her away, and Rory is sexually and intellectually attracted to him, having outgrown the safety of her tightly controlled relationship with her dimwitted beanpole of a boyfriend. Jess doesn't want to be part of Stars Hollow life, he wants his time with Rory to be with her only, and if she wants to do the cheesy town stuff that's cool with him because he doesn't seek to control her every waking moment. He can have his interests and she can have hers and their time alone can belong to them and both Lorelai and Rory...have a hard time adjusting to this. There's definitely some middle ground to be had here, but Jess doesn't want to do what Stars Hollow expects him to do because they hate him anyway and I'm pretty sure Rory was his first serious girlfriend, so he was out of his depth even if he wanted to conform...and he was too emotionally damaged to be much good to anyone at that point anyway. That said, Rory does seem to make an effort to socialize the most among the Stars Hollow crew while they are together and do her own Chilton stuff, so maybe it was in her best interest not to be tied to someone who insisted on controlling every single thing she did.

Logan is a mixed bag, because prior to getting involved with him Rory was alone for an entire year and hated it. She struggles at the paper, doesn't make any real friends at Yale except for Marty, comes home every weekend, and eventually gets involved with Dean again because she wants to relive her youth before realizing they actually don't have anything in common. She's sucked in by Logan's lifestyle and his hard-partying ways but she hasn't really let herself be involved in this kind of thing before, so she enjoys it until she doesn't. Logan doesn't actively seek to control her, she's always there by choice, and he never tells her she can't hang out with other people or do things on her own...but she still gets subsumed by him because it's what her primary experience of being a girlfriend is. When Jess goes to find her in Hartford, she has no idea of what to do in the city because even though she's lived there for six months, she still defaults to doing what her boyfriend wants to do.

I think this does get better in the seventh season, because she did gain a little bit of independence after she got back together with Logan, but also because he's elsewhere, his entire supporting cast of characters isn't around, and she's forced to make friends on her own and deal with things that don't revolve around her significant other. (Also, their relationship is relatively stable, so even though there is tension with Marty and Lucy, it's not really an insurmountable obstacle). She seems to have learned by that point it's okay to argue with your partner and not have it be the end of the world and to have parts of your life that don't revolve around him, either.

Of course, that is not ASP, even if it was something that needed to happen. It seems that the patterns set up early with Dean and Lorelai controlled Rory's life for a long time and negatively influenced how she interacted with the other guys. Remove AYITL from the equation (yes, please) and it puts Rory in a position to reconcile with Jess on the campaign trail or afterwards, because she's finally able to entertain the thought of maintaining an independent existence while being part of a couple.

#meta #rory gilmore #not sure where i was going with this but whatever #gilmore girls #anti dean forester #jess mariano #logan huntzberger

[rogersstevie]

“the verbal thing comes and goes.” jess + not being monosyllabic

#gilmoregirlsedits #gilmoregirlsedit #ggedit #tvedit #jessmarianoedit #rorygilmoreedit #literatiedit #jess mariano #gilmore girls #gg 2x16 #my gifs #mine: gilmore girls #jessverbal #i do appreciate being able to put more gifs into a set now #he was really trying to protect her and even then comes what is arguably the scariest dean scene #like you gotta think if not for paris' presence and intervening #(and you gotta think there are probably reasons both for her and jess to see that kind of anger and try to stop it) #it might've been so much worse #anti dean forester #100

[weepynymph]

ALSO

I've just noticed when lorelai and rory are fighting about rory sleeping with dean, the exact point at which rory storms out and says 'i hate you for ruining this for me!' is after lorelai says 'but you broke up with him [dean]. you picked someone else.'

Like out everything she says that's the thing that has rory running out of the room - the tiniest hint of jess' existence. his name isn't even mentioned.

I will die on the hill that rory sleeping with dean has EVERYTHING to do with what happened with jess the episode before and the fact that she still loves him but wishes she didn't and kind of wishes she'd never met him and by extension never broke up with dean and is trying to put things back the way that they were.

#like COME ON #hes all over this season even when he isn't physically there or even mentioned by name #rory gilmore #jess mariano #gilmore girls #literati #jess x rory #anti dean forester #lorelai gilmore #gilmore girls meta #literati meta

[gilmoreposting]

Rory thanking her boyfriend for not being mad at her for wanting to spend a night alone is genuinely such a terrible sign. All she wanted to do is have a night in and do laundry, and her boyfriend thinks his a "saint" for allowing her to do that???

#gilmore girls #anti dean forester #2 ep 16 #i'm rewatching gilmore girls for the billionth time #if you're a dean fan block me now

[roeyliteratiforever]

I find it so weird when people think that the reason you prefer Jess for Rory and as a personal preference for yourself is because you are attracted to unavailable men. 🤔 I hear this opinion a lot and it's just weird to me. I have been in the same relationship for the last 8 years and is very available. I love Jess the most because of how much he grows, and learns from his errors. I love their connection and how he pushes Rory to be the best version of herself. I love that he owns up to his mistakes and feels bad about his mistakes and instead of gaslighting Rory he changes his behavior and tries to do better. I love how Jess and Rory inspire each other and motivate each other. I love how despite having shitty circumstances in life he turns it around and makes it positive. I love how instead of minimizing Rory to be his mistress he waits until she is ready and is there for her as a friend without any strings, he is there for her no matter if they are together or not. His love for her is unconditional and while he wasn't perfect his love for her is so genuine and you can feel that. I am also a sucker for best friends to lovers and pining but that's another subject. It's just a weird take I've seen some people have, just because we like Jess best doesn't mean we want unavailable men there is so much more to it than that.

#gilmore girls #literati #rory gilmore #jess and rory #jess mariano #jess x rory #rory and jess #team jess #rory x jess #anti logan huntzberger #anti dean forester

[silas-lehnsherr]

I feel like there’s a juxtaposition of Rory’s final scenes with Dean and Jess at the end of season four. Both of them essentially proposition her (in slightly different ways). When Rory says no to Jess, he leaves. But when she says no to Dean, he finds an excuse why she shouldn’t be saying no and keeps going until she relents. I feel like that tells you a lot about their relationships with Rory. Ultimately, one respects her feelings and the other doesn’t.

#gilmore girls #rory gilmore #jess mariano #anti dean forester

[stellaluna33]

I think about that conversation where Rory calls Dean "safe" a lot. Like, in what way is Dean "safe"? She, with the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia, is comparing Dean's predictability with Jess's unpredictability, of course, but Dean had also dumped Rory TWICE by this point (and would dump her again!) and blamed it on her both times! He blames every problem in their relationship on her, actually! How is that "safe"?! But I've been thinking about it, I think a lot of it comes down to Rory's issues with control. Rory as a character likes to have all her ducks in a row, everything listed and planned (though she occasionally veers to the other impulsive extreme, which is interesting). She doesn't like feeling out of control of herself, her feelings, or what happens to her. So, in contrast to how I might feel about it, Dean constantly blaming her and breaking up with her feels "safe" to her because she can tell herself that SHE chose the outcome of the relationship. Everything is her fault, which means SHE decided it would be this way. Dean broke up with her because SHE didn't appreciate him enough, and that was her choice! Dean is mad at her because SHE studied too much or talked to the wrong person, and that was her choice! Everything is her fault means Nothing is Dean's fault equals "Dean never did anything bad to me." If Dean yells at her, it's because she deserved it, which means that everything is the way it's supposed to be! Predictable input-> output. Safe. It's what she chose. Rory is in control of her fate!

And Jess... She could control absolutely nothing about Jess. She couldn't control how she felt about him! She didn't want to fall in love with him, and she fell anyway. She was simply overwhelmed by it, without her own consent. She couldn't control her feelings, and she couldn't control the outcome of their relationship either. Jess leaving had nothing to do with her! But instead of that being a consolation, it was terrifying, because that meant there was nothing she could do about it. Jess crashed into her life and her heart and then was gone like a summer storm, and she was just as powerless to prevent either one. And she had found that kind of thrilling once upon a time, but now he's lost and what's to prevent him from slipping through her fingers yet again? It's out of her hands.

Her feelings for Dean are manageable. They're not going to overwhelm her and make her feel out of control. He's nice to her, because when he's not nice, she deserved it. This is what "safe" feels like.

#Gilmore Girls #Rory Gilmore #Anti Dean Forester #(just for filtering purposes) #Literati #(adjacent) #She definitely starts her 'friends with benefits' thing with Logan thinking it's something she can control too #Whoopsies that didn't work either haha #Before you know it you're crying on the bathroom floor #And saying things like 'I can't help it- I'm in love with him.' #But the intent was there haha

[righteousenjoymentofthunder]

dean saying 'i love you' to rory and then getting mad (huffy) about her not saying it back immediately just really gave me the ick for him. like, he's well within his rights to be mad* but that's ridiculous and she doesn't owe him anything (even though he's built her a car; she didn't ask for it and doesn't need it; a gift is a GIFT. nothing is owed) they've only been dating for three months. it's a long time for them but not very much in the retrospect (something that is emphasized HEAVILY throughout the episode) and it's okay for them to be in different emotional places. it's been mentioned that dean dated this other girl long term in his first school and its been known that this is rory's first relationship. she doesn't owe him anything, much less love, and he should respect that.

*ive gotten a few comments about this but yeah, i meant mad as in hurt. sorry for that confusion 😬

#can you tell im watching gilmore girls for the first time #gilmore girls #rory gilmore #anti dean forester #just to be safe #posts

[femmedefandom]

Thanks to @saltygilmores entertaining GG recaps, and most recently of 3x1, I am reminded of Lorelai saying quote “you dodged a bullet” and “it’s good you didn’t throw away everything for Jess” in reference to her and Rory watching Jess and Shane make out pretty heavily in the town square. I am once again terribly confused by Lorelai’s logic when it comes to Jess and Rory’s feelings about him.

Rory, however regrettably, is with Dean. Rory, despite her attraction to Jess, is with Dean. Rory, due in no small part to the pro-Dean cheerleader that is her mother, is with Dean. AKA, she is not with Jess. So why is Lorelai acting like a very single Jess making out with a girl who is not Rory some kind of sign that he is a faithless, over sexed loser? If he’s not with Rory, there’s nothing wrong with him being with someone else and it is no insult to his character that he doesn’t wait around all puppy dog eyed for a Gilmore Girl to make up her mind (cough-Luke-cough). Lorelai, I can guarantee you that if Rory broke up with Dean after that little wedding kiss, Jess would be working extra shifts and taking a bus to DC every chance he got. He’d leave a newly annotated book and a kiss every time he said goodbye. He wouldn’t even look at another girl. But Rory is with Dean and has given Jess exactly ZERO indication (other than obvious heart eyes and chemistry) that that has changed. So give it a rest and stop acting like this 17 year old boy is your lifelong irredeemable foe for existing without liking you.

#rory gilmore #lorelai gilmore #gilmore girls #jess mariano #lorelai’s unreasonable hatred of jess #anti dean forester

[disasterbiwriter]

#Thank you Gilmore Girls podcast #gilmore girls #anti dean forester

[jessmmariano]

Okay can we talk about how ugly the bracelet Dean made for Rory is? I can’t be the only one who thinks this. Like poor girl had to wear that leather strap for two and a half seasons and it never matched a single one of her outfits.

#I can’t remember does she put it back on when they get back together in season 5? #or did she finally get rid of it for good? #I hope so #rory gilmore #anti dean forester #dean forester #gilmore girls #lorelai gilmore #jess mariano #stars hollow #luke danes #rory x jess