#anti feyre stan

[ladydeath-22]

When Rhys stans ask “why is Rhys different in ACOSF” and people respond “oh Nesta is an unreliable narrator”..... 

Nesta’s view in ACOSF is THIRD person. Feyre’s view from ACOTAR - ACOWAR is FIRST person. 

It was Feyre that had the unreliable view of Rhys.

Not to mention, Rhys acts exactly the same? It was just viewed through a different POV. But Rhysand fanatics can’t accept that. Their hatred of Nesta overshadows all of the terrible things Rhys has done. And honey, hate to break it to you but Rhys is terrible and he has lied and hid things from Feyre and his friends numerous times???

1] when he knew the attor was following her

2] lied to her about the ring in the weaver’s cottage and put her life in danger to get it (just to see if she could as a promise to his mom??)

3] SA’d her and drugged her in UTM (also twisted her broken arm) --> can someone please explain to me why Feyre forgave Rhys for this?? and the entire fandom seems too?? They literally make jokes about the way she was dancing drugged. 

4] didn’t tell her the truth about him being her mate (idgaf if he said he kept it cause he wanted Feyre to be happy, she deserved to know even if she was happy with Tamlin) 

5] didn’t tell Mor about the promise he made to Keir about the visitation of the residents of Hewn City to Velaris (now i could care less about Mor, I don’t like her, but not telling her, that her that she may run into her abusive father) 

Moreover, Feyre talks to Rhys’s friends and family, so of course they will tell her all good things. 

and again, It was Feyre that had the unreliable view of Rhys. People need to go back to elementary school to relearn the difference between first POV and third POV. 

Google. gives us, “While first-person writing offers intimacy and immediacy between narrator and reader, third-person narration offers the potential for both objectivity and omniscience.” Take this what you will. 

#anti ic #anti rhysand #anti rhys #anti feysand #anti feyre #anti feyre archeron #anti rhys stans #anti rhysand stans #anti feysand stans #anti feyre stan #anti acomaf #anti acowar #anti riceman

[littlefeltsparrow]

Schrödinger’s Feyre: Where Feyre is simultaneously a cunning and badass girlboss with a mind of steel and a fragile little lamb who doesn’t know any better. When they’re proud, she’s a skilled strategist and competent High Lady, but when it comes to facing the consequences of her actions and the implications of her power, suddenly she’s a little baby waddling through fairy land.

#And the perfect case study? just look at the indecisiveness of her stans when it comes to her culpability in the downfall of the Spring Cou #In one camp Feyre is an excellent and clever strategist who expertly infiltrated enemy territory to destroy those who wronged her #She exacts righteous revenge on her enemy with her wits…but when Tamlin points out the collateral damage wrought upon the innocent civilian #of the Spring Court suddenly it wasn’t Feyre’s fault at all and it was ACTUALLY entirely Tamlin’s fault that the Spring Court fell #Suddenly Feyre had nothing to do with it…how convenient lol #sjm critical #anti sjm #anti inner circle #feyre archeron #anti feyre #acotar #acomaf #acowar #anti feysand #anti acosf #anti rhysand #tamlin #pro tamlin

[ofbreathandflame]

You’re right, Feyre stans are rarely just Feyre stans.

hi anon!

yep! this was specifically solidified for me after silver flames came out. feyre stans have been conditioned to always validate rhysand's intention over feyre's opinion. again - feyre has established that she:

(1) does not want rhysand to speak about her sisters in a disrespectful manner. feyre validates rhysand emotions about her sisters - meaning she isn't saying (and im not saying) that rhysand doesn't have a right to feel a certain way about her sisters. but that rhysand's feelings should not manifest in jabs and disrespectful words:

“Rhys said smoothly, “I’m not entirely sure Velaris is prepared for Nesta Archeron.” “My sister’s not some feral animal,” I snapped. Rhys recoiled a bit, the others suddenly finding the carpet, the divan, the books incredibly fascinating. “I didn’t mean that.”

feyre to rhysand.

“So she keeps saying, over and over,” Amren grumbled. I shot her a glare. “Careful.”

feyre to amren.

that's a boundary being set - clear as day. feyre does not approve or condone outright disrespect of her sisters. this has nothing to do with how we believe xyz or what rhys has a right to do, but what feyre has established as a no go.

(2) that she does not feel comfortable with rhysand being overly protective, to the point he withholds information, is overly violent, or conflicts with her wants:

“It’s hard to shut down my instincts.” Instincts. Just like … like someone else had instincts to protect, to hide me away. “Then you should have prepared yourself better,” I snapped. “You seemed to be going along just fine with it, until Keir said—”

rhys to feyre; feyre to rhys (acomaf)

(3)feyre doesn't care about instincts (as is an excuse used in sf), here she is telling rhys straight up that he needs to prepare himself better. bc she DOES NOT feel comfortable with the way rhys expressed his frustration. and again feyre is sympathetic to his reasonings, but she does not believe his intentions (in this case) justify the way he chooses to go about these things.

“I craned my neck to look up at him. “Never lie to me again. Not about that.”

feyre to rhys (acowar)

(4) again - feyre establishing a boundary. never lie to her about anything, especially important things.

feyre (and also fucking amren) also establishes that she doesn't believe that keeping her sisters couped up in the house of wind to be productive or helpful:

“If you want to start convincing your sisters, get them out of the House. Being cooped up never helped anyone.”

amren to feyre (acowar)

and nesta has established to rhys that she wants no interest in cassian:

“Nesta had made it clear enough she had no interest in Cassian—not even in being in the same room as him. I knew why. I’d seen it happen, had felt that way plenty.”

rhysand to az (acofas)

feyre also establishes - to rhys - that her she knows her sisters don't do well with public humiliation, and making a scene:

“ “I shouldn’t have asked her in public. I made a mistake.” and “I loosed a long sigh. “I should have considered that telling strangers what happened to her in Hybern might … might not be something she was comfortable with. My sister has been a private person her entire life, even amongst us.”

feyre to rhys (acowar).

im saying allll of this to say that in sf - rhysand literally takes all of these boundaries and shits on them. even his creation of the intervention conflicits against what feyre establishes: (1) her sister is a private person, and will not respond well to public humilation (2) nesta wants nothing to do with cassian (3) her sisters are not healty being in the house of wind and (4) feyre wants to be looped in and considered every step of the way. even the act of creating an intervention that goes so instinctively against feyre's wishes is an act of deep disrespect. that feyre stans can see these moments and still justify them bc their hatred for nesta and obsession w/ rhys trumps their 'love' for feyre. its a conditional like. here feyre is the victim and instead of writing metas and ff about feyre being done dirty by rhysand - they flock to justify rhysand's point to the point where they're willing to ignore feyre's opinions. its not abt how much we like / dislike the sisters. but how rhys's behavior conflicts against feyre's wants and boundaries. its about how those feyre stans would rather validate rhys then stand by feyre's emotions. to imply that rhysand's actions were appropriate means u place his actions above feyre.

feyre is adult and mature enough to manage her emotions, she not a child, she is perfectly able to stand-up and put her foot down. and she has - on multiple occasions retorted and fought back against her sisters - to consistently pretend feyre is a child who needs rhys to cosign and stand body-guard when feyre is perfectly able to do it herself says so much abt those 'stans' than they are willing to admit.

like feyre was able to face down tamlin - her abuser - all by her damn self. she's not some child who needs people to consistently defend her by undermining her opinions. if she wanted rhys to be an asshole to nesta - we would have saw that. instead we got this:

“That’s enough,” Feyre snapped at Rhys. “I told you to keep out of it.” He dragged his star-flecked eyes to his mate, and it was all Nesta could do to keep from collapsing onto the couch as her knees gave out at last. Feyre angled her head, nostrils flaring, and said to Rhysand, “You can either leave, or you can stay and keep your mouth shut.”

we got feyre telling rhys and amren that she did not want them to behave that way. and even after that. both rhys and amren continue ignoring feyre's requests. feyre is not respected - these are not the actions of people who respect her as an equal. she's a child to them , and they believe they know better.

idk - if i were a feyre stan- yall would never have shut me up if my fav was treated like a doormat and sidelined. i would have been writing scathing metas on rhys and the ic. - i wouldve been explaining exactly why rhys withholding information was wrong - not just vaguely saying he was wrong and then justifying why he did it. i would have been an amren hater #1 for how she continually undermined feyre. idk...yall are not real feyre shooters. like damn your fav is catching strays by the author and the readers and you're only focused on how nesta factors into that equation?? like youve got bigger problems to worry abt here. feyre has been continually and consistently phased out of her own story by the author and that don't bother yall? hmm couldnt be me tho.

#anti sjm #anti rhysand #anti feyre #anti feysand #anti acosf #anti acomaf #anti sjm: feyre archeron #this is actually not an anti feyre post #rather an anti feyre stans post

[bookishfeylin]

People LEGITIMATELY believe that no one could possibly be harmed or killed during the toppling of a government on the brink of invasion…

What are the Feysand stans on??????

#AND y'all expect me to take this seriously as legitimate high fantasy with good worldbuilding?!?! 🫠 #Anyway this is why I don’t vibe with other Feyre stans because you don’t call her white girlboss feminism exactly what it is #acotar analysis #anti acomaf #SJM critical #acotar #Spring court discourse

[highladyofterrasen7]

It’s so funny when nesta stans say feysand need to stop having sex every five minutes.

Did you not read acosf

#sarah j maas #acotar #feyre archeron #feysand #rhysand #pro feysand #anti nesta stans

[nestarcheronmommy]

Nesta antis:

"I hate Nesta cause she was an horrible person"

*Proceeds to be the worst person and say more rude things than Nesta has ever said in her life to real people*

At least Nesta is funny.

#anti ic #anti rhysand #anti feysand #anti inner circle #anti rhys acotar #rhys hater #anti feyre #pro nesta #anti sjm #nesta deserves better #nesta is a queen #high queen nesta #pro nesta archeron #nesta archeron #nesta stan #nesta supremacy

[thatpurpledudetrey]

nesta literally telling feyre that shes going to fucking died from the babe in an unpleasant way is literally just an argumental point for rhys stans to use to cover up the fact he LITERALLY hide a medical information from feyre?!?!?!? bro HE was the on who started this shit not fucking nesta????

it was rhysand's fault, he started this shit by being a stupid bitch who decided to not tell feyre

#anti feysand #neutral feyre #anti rhysand #anti acotar #pro nesta archeron #pro nesta #pro archeron sisters #“but what if shes stressed?” SHE LITERALLY FACED THE FUCKING WEAVER AND DIED SAVING PRYTHIAN SHE'LL FUCKING LIVE IF SHE WAS TOLD ABOUT THIS #none of this wouldnt been a fucking problem if RHYSAND ISNT A FUCKING ABUSER #actually NO ALL OF THIS WOULDNT HAPPEN IF FEYRE JUST FUCKING KILL HIM #KILL THAT BITCH FEYRE U DESERVED TO #RUNAWAY AND LIVE FREELY GIRL #FREE MY GIRL FEYRE!!!!!!!! #the fact stans ignored that nesta literally apologized to feyre in acosf and rhysand has not ONCE spat out the word “sorry” IN ANY OF THE #FUCKING SERIES #LITERALLY IN CHAPTER 54 ACOMAF ALL HE DO IS YAP YAP AND BLAB BLAB LIEK SHUT THE FUCK UP U STUPID BITCH #“i have a sad backstory :((( pls excused my horrid actions :(((” WOMP WOMP BITCH #you guys need to remember that rhysand has never ONCE apologized for all the horrible actions he did to feyre #yall claim to be feyre stans and proceed to defend this shit is fucking gross #sorry for this very angry rant in the tags yall

[spidersmiceandeverythingnice]

"Criticizng Feyre for her choices is misogyny!"

Actually Feyre is a fictional character who exists in a story which is written by an author.

And since we're on the topic, Feyre has the bare minimum of agency in her OWN story. She doesn't do anything that her [super-powered male] love interest disapproves of and never questions his decisions apart from the bare minimum needed to show that she's an empowered girlboss(tm). Her characterization is hugely inconsistent and frequently retconned because she's less a character in a story than she is vehicle for navel gazing at the actual main character of the ACOTAR universe - her male hetero love interest, round whom the planet revolves.

#anti sjm #anti Feyre #i mean technically thjs isnt but to be safe #can the stans be Quiet #im trying to go into lb6 mode here

[mia-nina-lilly]

Impressive how Feysand stans don't accept criticism of their favorites.

#acotar #a court of thorns and roses #feysand ins't cool #anti feysand #anti feyre #anti rhysand #learn to accept that your loved ones are not perfect #anti crazy feysand stans

[littlefeltsparrow]

And what if I told you that Nesta was well within her right to reveal the truth to Feyre? What if I told you that Nesta revealing the truth spitefully or in a mean way was in no way comparable to the IC’s lies to Feyre? WHAT IF I TOLD YOU that I couldn’t care less how she said it, just that she said it at all?

Nesta seems to be the only one with the tenacity to unmask the unending facade of the IC. She might be a bitch, but at least she’s honest. If anything, she does right by Feyre for telling her the truth and I will always have more respect for her than the immortal clique who lied to Feyre for months to “protect her”. Oh how noble of them! And here I was thinking that they respected Feyre as a strong and competent leader (guess I was wrong)

The IC is more enraged by the knowledge of a terrible act being spoken aloud than the act itself. It’s as if they live to maintain a certain type of decorum that really just sweeps their troubles, trauma and grievances under the rug. Nesta telling the truth was a violation of that conduct, it was an act that unmasked the IC for what it has been this entire time. A tightly knit clique who enforce their views on others and see the Archeron as inherently beneath them. As such, considering their feelings, opinions and autonomy is unnecessary. (Because they apparently know best)

#anti sjm #anti rhysand #sjm critical #not a feyre hater or a feyre stan just a Feyre advocate if you will #pro nesta #anti acosf #acotar #acosf thoughts #nesta archeron

[feysandscourt]

People saying that Feyre gained some rose-coloured glasses and ignored Rhys’ faults after she accepted the bond…are we reading the same books? Because throughout the series, and even after she accepted the bond, she scolds him or calls him out on his crap when he messes up. Always. We even see this in acosf, even though the story is no longer being told from their perspective.

You just don’t like the fact that Rhys isn’t evil like you want him to be so bad. Even Ne.sta herself admits that Rhys is a good person despite all her hatred towards him soooo…🤷🏻‍♀️

#feyre archeron #pro feyre #feysand #pro feyre archeron #pro feysand #pro rhysand #rhysand #anti nesta #anti nesta stans #high lady of the night court #high lord of the night court #rhysandweek2023 #anti Rhys antis

[ofbreathandflame]

i should add: vague hofas spoilers (comments have spoilers):

oh my god that book sounds like a train wreck - and i thought hosab was bad…

like i said the last time…the ghetto…

they’re saying there’s “language translation pills”… that’s your queen???

and just like we’ve been saying for years now…which character is sidelined once again. lmaooooo sjm gagged the feyre girles so bad💀

#i also actually forgot this book was even coming out #like idk I’ve seen literally no promo for it #anti sjm #LANGUAGE PILLS????? #‘s/jm always has our back with feysand’ — yeah….. #does SHE know that🤣 #they got the f/eyre stans turning into reluctant nesta stans #no im sorry ive gotta laugh about this one #anti feyre

[lorcandidlucienwill]

“Tamlin didn’t help Feyre utm!” Actually he did, he was the one who sent Lucien and he kept quiet so Amarantha wouldn’t realize the torture of Feyre that would hurt him the most. He also begged for Lucien’s life. “Tamlin had one chance to help Feyre and he chose to try and fuck her instead!” I mean at least it was consensual 💀💀💀💀

#rhysand stans aren’t prepared for this one #anti rhysand #even if you ignore tamlin’s contributions #at least he didn’t add to her pain so #get rekt #the og trio #tamlin deserves better #feyre archeron #pro lucien vanserra #lucien vanserra #outta pocket #but true #tamlin

[highladyofterrasen7]

I’m Gwynriel and therefore elucien adjacent

#sarah j maas #acotar #azriel #gwyneth berdara #gwyn x azriel #gwynriel #anti elriel #elucien #rhysand #feyre archeron #nesta archeron #nesta is a gwynriel stan #cassian

[stargirlfeyre]

The funniest part about Nesta stans trying to bring up Feyre bribing Nesta to come to her birthday party as a way to shit on Feyre’s character is that the only thing that moment shows is how much of a disappointment Nesta is as a sister because imagine you not being able to act like a decent person on your baby sister’s birthday unless you’re getting paid for it. One day out of the year when all she’s asking you to do is be present and you can’t even do that without something being in it for you.

Y’all trying to come at Feyre for bribing her when what’s truly sad is the fact that Nesta had to be bribed in the first place. Like even Elain (who very rarely calls Nesta out on her behavior) had to say something to her about it a year later.

#feyre archeron #nesta archeron #pro feyre #anti nesta stans #nesta and feyre #acofas #acotar #acosf

[motherfeyre-archeron]

Tamlin lunged for me over the few feet that remained. So fast—too fast—

I became mist and shadow.

I winnowed beyond his reach. The king let out a low laugh as Tamlin stumbled.

And went sprawling as Rhysand’s fist connected with his face.

....

Teamwork at it's finest 👌

#acotar #pro feyre #feyre #feyre archeron #rhys #pro rhysand #feysand #pro feysand #acomaf #acowar #anti tamlin #anti tamlin stans