#anti game of thrones

[alicentes]

Alicent Hightower 🤝 Sansa Stark

Having their book counterparts agency stripped away from them and unnecessary scenes of SA being written for them instead

#sansa stark #anti hotd #asoiaf #anti game of thrones #alicent hightower #i heard that there was a scene written foe s2 where alicent is raped during blood and cheese and i am LIVID #first you take away her agency then humiliate her w the foot SA scene then want to add in rape as a punishment? fuck you #olivia apparently refused to do it and matt and emma backed her up in a meeting so good for them hopefully this scene is not a thing #also the fact that it was written by a woman and this show is supposed to be more feminist than GOT makes me sick theyre just as bad as d&d #ad for sansa i am referring to the ramsey plot which went on for an entire season with her politically savvy storyline scrapped

[hoolay-boobs]

YA novel covers

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[reneewalkersknives]

one egregious thing the game of thrones show misses out on is that the stark kids are CONSTANTLY thinking abt each other!! there isn’t like a single POV chapter from any of them where they don’t long for their siblings!! Jon wants to have a son and name him Robb!! Bran wants to be a bird so him and his siblings can live in a nest together!! Sansa prays for her siblings every night and makes the Winterfell castle and then gets upset bc there’s no one to throw snow at!! Needle IS Jon!! Arya’s list is her own prayer for her siblings, she doesn’t care that Joffrey is dead bc Robb is too!! Every single one of them believes that their big brother will come to save them!! there’s sm love and tenderness there and GOT missed out on lots of it bc it tries too hard for the grimdark angle without realising that the center of the stark’s story is their love for each other. anyways.

#a song of ice and fire #asoiaf #game of thrones #anti game of thrones #starklings #robb stark #jon snow #sansa stark #arya stark #bran stark #sorry Robb and rickon Ik ur love ur siblings too but I only did ones with POV chapters😭 #stark family

[eonweheraldodemanwe]

You know how the writers of Game of Thrones didn't get the books themes and characters?

Season seven when Sansa and Arya sre talking about Joffrey's death enjoying it and Arya wishing she was there to watch.

Meanwhile George has Sansa horrified at Joffrey choking to death and Arya finding no joy or comfort when she learns about it because it doesn't being her dead family back.

#anti got #anti game of thrones #anti d&d #sansa stark #arya stark

[unknown-terrain]

Congrats to show!Jaime for finally making it to #1 on a popular media list! 😂 Good to see that heading onto the 5th anniversary of the disastrous S8, Jaime's forced Twincest ending is still truly hated by the masses and that Dumb and Dumber's dream of J/C becoming the "true love" story the audience would grow to love be completely shattered over and over. Anybody with a functioning brain could have told them Twincest was never going to be loved. GRRM himself told them that through asoiaf and making Jaime/Brienne his Beauty and the Beast story but of course D&D never understood the books and thought they could do better. Anyways it's always nice to see D&D get hate for ruining Jaime lmao.

#jaime lannister #nikolaj coster waldau #anti got #game of thrones #anti game of thrones #anti d&d #anti jaime x cersei #anti twincest #anti lannicest #anti cersei lannister #anti cersei #jaime x brienne #braime #brienne of tarth #asoiaf

[pessimisticpigeonsworld]

We can learn a lot about D&D from these two quotes. The fact that one is demonized and protrayed as a narcissist (falsely) while the other is adored and praised.

Daenerys, who D&D decided to portray as cruel and descending into insanity from season 5 on, is written as acknowledging her suffering. However, she says that she endured by finding strength in herself. This view of her past shows how she understands that, while without her circumstances she wouldn't be where she is today, she knows it was unnecessary and awful. Her motivation for most of the show is ensuring that what happened to her doesn't happen to anyone else.

Sansa, on the other hand, outright thanks her abusers. It's one thing to acknowledge how one's trauma shaped you, but it's another thing entirely to thank those who harmed you. By thanking Littlefinger, Ramsay, and others, Sansa is basically saying that her past self needed to suffer in order to become useful. It's D&D basically saying that femininity and women in general need to suffer in order to become "strong".

By choosing to contrast how Dany and Sansa view their pasts and deciding to make Sansa the one the audience is meant to root for, D&D are condemning Dany's idea. They are saying that women shouldn't credit themselves for enduring trauma, rather they should be thankful to their abusers.

This is just one example for how Dany is punished for being active in her life and actively rebelling against her "place" as a woman. Sansa is passive and only acts out when helped by men until the very end of the show, when she has "earned" her active role. Even in her final ending, she asks a man, her brother, to be given the North. Dany takes the lead in her life as soon as she is able, and, even when she's Drogo's bridal slave, she learns how to gain some semblance of power over her life.

Dany is punished by the GoT narrative for being a proactive woman and choosing to condemn rather than thank her abusers. Sansa is rewarded for her passivity and thankfulness to her abusers. This an just one example of the underlying sexism in the show.

#daenerys targaryen #game of thrones #anti d&d #anti game of thrones #anti show sansa #sansa stark critical

[allovesthings]

When we say that Arya was absolutely butchered as a character from the beginning, we mean it.

#asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #arya stark #anti game of thrones #game of thrones

[agentrouka-blog]

How come only jonsas saw this romantic chemistry or acting chemistry and nobody else though?

I mean, for some show-only fans, that's kind of how many became Jonsas in the first place. Because they saw it.

And there were a number of reviewers who also noticed the weird chemistry and filming choices.

I will freely admit that I didn't read it as romantic at first glance, because the idea had never crossed my mind before, but even I saw that the creators really really cared about their emotional connection. From this basis that they built in season six, they could have easily developed them as a romantric couple if they had so chosen, because everything they did works for that purpose and specifically doesn't contradict it. It was designed to be subtle and make sense in retrospect. Only they didn't continue to build on it.

But that doesn't change that in retrospect they used a lot of absurdly romantic-coded techniques and tropes to build their relationship.

Set a novice in front of a television with the sound off and ask them to judge the relationship between the redhaired woman and the dark-haired man and I am willing to bet money that a lot of them would not have "siblings" as their first guess.

#rouka queue #jonsa #anti game of thrones

[darklinaforever]

The day people realize that the return of dragons and magic is not a bad thing for Westeros and that Daenerys is not destined to become a great villain, the world will be better.

Just as the world will be better the day people realize that the Targaryens are not the villains of the story, and that this house is not destined to fall through the downfall of Daenerys' character, who will never happen in the books. 😂

If GRRM ever finishes the books, it's crazy to think that Daenerys will end up dying as a big bad and the dragons will disappear again and House Targaryen will be destroyed. 😂

Daenerys Targaryen is for me the perfect revenge for what happened to Rhaenyra.

#house targaryen #daenerys targaryen #daenerys stormborn #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #grrm #grr martin #george rr martin #fire and blood #f&b #house of the dragon #hotd #anti hotd #anti house of the dragon #rhaenyra targaryen #pro rhaenyra targaryen #the realms delight #the black queen #queen rhaenyra #the dragon queen #the half year queen #pro daenerys targaryen #team blacks #team black #pro team blacks #pro team black #got #game of thrones #anti got #anti game of thrones

[lizzie-queenofmeigas]

So show! Sansa wanted to kill two kids for what they father's did, but couldn't because Jon wouldn't let her and she is a girlboss and a complex character. But show!Dany burns the idiots that refuse to kneel and who prefer to fight for show! Cersei which was mostly xenophobia and she is a psycho and a tyrant.

Talk about double standards.

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[atopvisenyashill]

it’s actually insane that in the show, when Arya & Sandor kill Polliver and Raff, it’s this big moment of Heroic Violence, where Arya says Lommy’s last words as she runs needle through Polliver’s neck, and you get that ~bad ass~ scene of her holding the coin with blood on her hands and saying “valar morghulis” in that “calm, cool, collected killer” voice

and meanwhile, in the books, it’s this awful moment where her anger, grief, trauma, and fear all collide and she’s just screaming and stabbing a dead man over and over until the Hound pulls her off. And then it’s hours of her taking care of the Hound, of realizing she’s feeling something akin to sympathy and fondness for Sandor, the guilt of not being able to recall Micah’s face, the pain that Sansa may be dead and Arya is now the last Stark, as she whispers valar morghulis and stomps out any and all sympathy she may feel for Sandor and decides to leave him to die.

Like they really. Just completely missed the point of that scene huh.

#i forgot how rough it was jeez #rani liveblogs asoiaf #anti d&d #anti game of thrones #arya stark

[daenerystargaryen06]

This is late 'cause I've been very busy and sick- but let's get into it.

I've seen so many comments like this one on Tik Tok, really terrible platform for comments like these to pop up since everyone likes spreading their hate for Dany on Daenerys edits/videos, especially on other comments that show support for Daenerys and uplift her. But this one in particular genuinely baffles me no, I won't blur the name out; this dude commented this on a public forum for everyone to see. Just don't send him hate or anything... even if this part of the fandom isn't as crazy as all the others.

'Drogon isn't as crazy as his slave master Dany'. Let's break this down, shall we? First point- Dany isn't a slave master, ESPECIALLY to Drogon. Dany was a bridal sex slave herself, in the show at the age of 16/17, in the books at the age of 13. She knows what it's like to be a slave, she was one herself, and due to her enslavement and the horrors she saw when wed to Drogo (his own people's violence against not only her but also the Lhazareen)- Daenerys wants equality for everyone. She breaks the chains from those enslaved in Astapor, Yunkai, and Meereen. She works to free these people from their sufferings and plight and give them agency to achieve freedom for themselves and no longer live under the cruelty of the Masters. In the show, she sets up a council of freedmen to govern themselves to rule the cities, and she ensures the Masters no longer remained a threat to her people before she left to Westeros. In the Books, she is currently struggling against the Masters and is facing many struggles, but she is still striving to ensure her people remain free and safe from the Masters without worry of cruelty and fear under the Masters for their own profit.

"There speaks one who has been neither." Dany's nostrils flared. "Do you know what it is like to be sold, squire? I do. My brother sold me to Khal Drogo for the promise of a golden crown. Well, Drogo crowned him in gold, though not as he had wished, and I . . . my sun-and-stars made a queen of me, but if he had been a different man, it might have been much otherwise. Do you think I have forgotten how it felt to be afraid?" -A Storm of Swords - Daenerys II

"He was too eloquent for her. Dany had no answer for him, only the raw feeling in her belly. "Slavery is not the same as rain," she insisted. "I have been rained on and I have been sold. It is not the same. No man wants to be owned." -A Dance with Dragons - Daenerys III

Even worse is that this comment refers to Dany as being DROGON's slave master. Drogon has never been considered a slave to Dany. He is her child, her son. Her dragons are her children. Dany has never regarded them as slaves, nor will she ever regard to them as such. Rhaegal and Viserion were chained because Drogon killed a child, and Dany feared her dragons would grow unruly and begin to kill more of her people, yet she also regrets this decision. She cries when she does this in the show. She reflects upon it and regrets it in the books. She will always care for and love her dragons, who she loves alike to a mother. She regards to them as her children and would never willingly harm them.

In the show and books, Dany struggles with Drogon making his own decisions. But she does not try to enforce him under her will like a Master would a slave. She wants him to listen, yes, but every mother wants their child to listen and behave. In the show, she never harms Drogon or forces him to submit, he WILLINGLY listens to her once she gains back her identity after burning the Khals in Vaes Dothrak and going against the Masters when she returns to Meereen. If he didn't wish to listen, he wouldn't have to, as he possesses a mind and will of his own which was already shown in seasons 4-5. In the books, she has to whip Drogon into submission, but it was not to enslave Drogon- it was to SAVE him and her people from death in the Fighting Pit when he comes and almost loses his life while burning the people around him. If not for her, Drogon would have died, and he attacks back at her as well within the Pit before he submits to her and allows her to ride upon him away from the violence that was occurring.

Calling Dany Drogon's slave master is alike to calling every other Targ before her slave masters to their dragons, when we know that isn't true, and Dany's connection to her dragons is actually very much different and runs deeper than that of her ancestors with their own dragons.

Now, on the topic of 'craziness', Dany is far from it. In the show, she only became 'crazy' in the very last few episodes of the last season, when the writers ruined her character all for their excuse to have Jon kill her since they couldn't even think up a better ending. Before that, are we just going to ignore the fact that Dany actually went against what her father had done, did things for the good of others and cared for those considered 'lesser', and saved basically all of Westeros when she allied with Jon and it was the majority of HER armies and dragons that fought against the WW and NK? She only went 'crazy' when the writers wanted her to, and even that I don't consider canon, due to the fact she was painted as a HERO before they assassinated her entire character and made her go off the deep end and even that I don't view as just 'crazy'.

In the books, she fears becoming like her father, she is compared most to Rhaegar (a character many in the books view as sane and heroic), and she reflects most upon her actions and questions her decisions made. She is a grey character at most, and even still, she is the one character that does the most good and selfless acts in the books compared to everyone else. She wants what is best for her people, she wants to make them happy and give them good lives, and she wants to be a good Queen who isn't just feared or violent to achieve what she wants. She forgoes Westeros to keep in Meereen for her people's safety. She works the hardest to attempt for peace with the Masters without bloodshed or acts of cruelty and she is compassionate, intelligent, and an empathetic woman. She sees suffering and instead of accepting it like everyone else in that world has, she works AGAINST it to save those who do suffer due to her own experiences of suffering and pain. She is, in all, a hero who wants to do good. That doesn't seem very 'crazy' or 'slave master' to me.

Someone should really pick up the books, but I fear that their reading comprehension would be just as bad as their comments on Tik Tok.

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[saltywinteradult]

it’s been six years and the line ”you don’t look much like [ned], i suppose you favour your mother” still makes my blood BOIL. literally the entire deal with jon’s appearance is that jon resembles ned so much that people don’t question that he’s ned’s son because ned and lyanna resembled each other. and the show cast actors that resemble each other to play ned and lyanna. i know dumb & dumber are idiots but how do you fuck up this badly?!?

#jon snow #ned stark #lyanna stark #anti got #anti d&d #anti game of thrones

[wearenorth]

From time to time, I come across these snippets of GoT on my social media. So on another episode of how D&D tried to push over Sansa as this "righteous and smartest" character, despite being power-hungry and wanting the crown only for herself: 

a) In this scene, people who don't or can't fight hide safely in the crypts. While talking with Tyrion, Sansa decides to bring up Daenerys into conversation for no reason at all, which is followed by trying to talk sh*t about her. Then Missandei corrects Sansa.

b) In this scene, Missandei states facts as usual.

c) In this scene, Daenerys is again proven to be a good and caring person who helps others. "We'd all be dead already": Missandei would have died in slavery if not for Daenerys taking her into her care and freeing her. Tyrion would have drunk himself to death/would have died in slavery/would have been killed in Essos if not for Daenerys taking him into her service. The North, without Daenerys, would have no chance to stand against the Others; they all would be dead (including Sansa).

d) In this scene, Sansa says, "Divided loyalties would have become a problem." What "divided" loyalties? Prior to the dialogue that is shown here, Tyrion and Sansa were talking about their marriage. It's understandable that Sansa would want Tyrion to stay loyal to her, i.e., that Tyrion would have no other lovers. But Daenerys wasn't Tyrion's lover, and it's quite clear that none of them had any romantic feelings for each other. From the political side, Tyrion has sworn his loyalty to Daenerys and is one of her advisors. Jon Snow, who's the King, is at the top of the political hierarchy in the North (above Sansa too), bent the knee to Daenerys. This makes Daenerys Queen of the North. And the North and its people become Daenerys' subjects; this includes Sansa too. In no way is Sansa above Daenerys in the political hierarchy. In no way is Sansa equal to Daenerys in the political hierarchy. Sansa is below Daenerys in the political hierarchy.

So what "divided" loyalties is Sansa speaking about as if she's in an equal position with Daenerys? That Tyrion being a loyal advisor to Daenerys and a loyal husband to Sansa wouldn't go well with Sansa's desire to have the crown and rule over an "independent" North?

#anti sansa stark #anti d&d #anti got #anti stansas #anti sansa stans #anti game of thrones

[eonweheraldodemanwe]

No matter what the show said in the books Jon is the bastard of Rhaegar.

You can't seek an annullment of your marriage from the faith of you have consumated it and have two kids as a result.

Even if a septon or the High Septon grants it the rest of the Faith would never accept it as it goes against their religious doctrine.

Maegor who un like Rhaegar was a king, had at his beck and call Balerion and a High Septon chosen by himself couldn't make it work. The rest of the Faith refused to acknowledge it.

No trueborn Jon in the books.

#asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #anti game of thrones #rhaegar targaryen #jon snow

[catofoldstones]

as someone from a country that was colonised for almost 200 years you can absolutely miss me with that mhysa shit

#anti game of thrones #asoiaf #asos #anti daenerys targaryen #but is it? #if it’s a critique of how it’s written #anyway #just to be safe