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severussnapemylove · 2 months
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(Some time at Hogwarts in the 1970s)
Lucius (throwing darts at a target on the wall)
Severus; (reading quietly)
Narcissa; (Doing homework)
Slughorn: (Walks into the room) "What have the three of you done?"
Narcissa; "Nothing."
Severus; "Just keeping busy."
Lucius; "Killing time, you know, the usual."
Slughorn; (narrows eyes suspiciously but leaves)
Lucius;
Severus;
Narcissa;
Lucius; "He is definitely losing his touch."
...
Lucius; "Should we let him down then?"
James, (glued to the ceiling, gagged and furious) mmh!
Narcissa; "Not just yet, I prefer him up there."
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expectopatronum81 · 10 months
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Lily's dynamic with the marauders (unpopular opinion)
Am I the only one who feels that lily wasn't as close to the marauders as the fandom makes her out to be?
Now before u jump at me, it's obviously fun to explore the dynamics btw different characters thru hcs and fanfics. However, i m only considering canon facts in this post.
First off, we never hear sirius or remus speak about lily when james isn't involved in the conversation. James was obviously a close friend, more lyk a brother, so its only natural that they reminisce him often. Both of them remark on harry's resemblance to james pretty often. It's literally the first thing sirius mentions when he sees harry for the first time in poa, saying james would have taken risks for him the same way harry came for ron. Remus compares harry's humor and unflinching belief in his friends to james aswell. There are constant little mentions post gof of james by both of them.
But lily? Absolutely nothing. We obviously can't expect her to be mentioned as many times as james coz she wasn't in their original friend group, but she isn't mentioned at all. The only time she's spoken about is post swm, and that's still in relation to her getting together with james. We learn more about lily from snape, someone she cut ties with when she was 15, than from her supposed besties. Heck, we learn more about her from Slughorn, her school teacher, than we ever did from sirius and remus.
Ik lily addresses sirius and peter by their nicknames in that letter, but i honestly always saw it as a casual thing, obvs in a fond way but not an indicator of their relationship.
There is obviously potential for a close friendship, there's often potential for a lot of things in fiction, but that doesn't make it canon. Apart from fighting the same war these characters don't seem to have anything in common. Yeah, both lily and sirius have complicated relationships with their siblings, but I would hardly compare a failed relation to having your sibling be brainwashed by your abusive family into following a cult that's trying to get u and ur friends killed.... Besides, lily is portrayed as this pure, perfect mother in canon while sirius and remus are both massively flawed characters, and that leaves little room for understanding between these characters.
Now, this isn't to say that the didn't like each other ofc, but the way lily's only mentioned with respect to james, they probably liked and respected her as their best friend's wife. There's no way I'm believing that they were super close when she isn't mentioned on her own even once after she's dead, it makes it pretty clear that the relationship was only because of james. There's nothing wrong with that ofc, it happens in plenty of friend groups and families, i just wish there were more fics representing their relationship the way it was originally written( although fanfics exploring their relationship are LIT in their own fanon way).
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dramioneasks · 1 year
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Whatever It Takes - ellenelle - M, WIP - 'Infiltrate the Order, gain their trust, find out all you can.' After the Death Eaters’ spectacular failure at the Department of Mysteries, Draco Malfoy is tasked with not one, but two missions from the Dark Lord: Albus Dumbledore eliminated for good, and another task that Draco knew was doomed from the start. “How far are you willing to go to prove your family’s loyalty?” He was afraid of the answer.
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mytoesfelloff · 2 years
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It’s a shame that the most notable members of my house are all characters that I hate. Snape, Draco and Regulus are really fucking up my Slytherin pride 😒 but Bellatrix and Slughorn are making up for it so it’s ok
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moonlightdancer26 · 2 years
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*pssst*- Severus finding the room of requirement as a teenager and turning it into a potions lab/bedroom/safe haven will always be a great idea and I'd like to hear your thoughts about it. <3 (and yes dear, I was referring to the pathetic anon who told you to take your life despite them not having one of their own.)
I 100000% believe this is canon, I reckon Sluggy gave teen!Severus keys to the potions lab so he would expand and experiment with his knowledge.
(and thank you! these anons always think they actually do something with that stuff 💀)
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hitchell-mope · 10 months
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No duh
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dhr-ao3 · 6 months
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Chrysopoeia
Chrysopoeia https://ift.tt/x93WHIa by La_nayru Reasons why being in love with Draco Malfoy is wholly unacceptable: 1. He is insufferable 2. He is married 3. He is her academic rival 4. Now, unhappily, he is also her colleague, and they are meant to be collaborating 5. Professional boundaries ought to be observed with colleagues 5b. Especially when her application for tenure is fully dependent on forging a successful academic collaboration with said colleague 6. It is not compatible with her five-year plan (see items 1-5 for specifics) Hermione has a deeply compelling list of reasons not to be in love with Draco Malfoy. To her dismay, when her department chair at St. Mungo's Medical School forces her into close proximity with Malfoy for the sake of undertaking an alchemy collaboration, she begins to develop romantic feelings she never meant to have. Desperate to remedy this lamentable affliction, she invents a potion that can reverse the state of being in love. The only trouble is, she can’t seem to bring herself to take it. Or: In which Hermione tries to force quit being in love. Words: 6239, Chapters: 1/3, Language: English Fandoms: Harry Potter - J. K. Rowling Rating: Mature Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: F/M Characters: Hermione Granger, Draco Malfoy, Astoria Greengrass, Harry Potter, Horace Slughorn Relationships: Hermione Granger/Draco Malfoy, Astoria Greengrass/Draco Malfoy Additional Tags: Post-War, Rivals to Lovers, Academia, alchemist hermione granger, Former Death Eater Draco Malfoy, Emotional Infidelity (not between D/Hr), Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, References to Torture, References to War Crimes, Explicit Sexual Content, Pining Hermione Granger, Oblivious Draco Malfoy, Slughorn is very meddlesome, Anti-love Potions, Slow Burn, Eventual Romance, Women being excellent to one another, Harry Potter Epilogue What Epilogue | EWE via AO3 works tagged 'Hermione Granger/Draco Malfoy' https://ift.tt/zq8QBhb October 30, 2023 at 03:50AM
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therealvinelle · 1 year
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A small continuation of the Pensieve post
Three things, to be specific, one to counter a point raised in the replies of the previous post.
Dumbledore plays the memory Harry received from Slughorn right away. How could he have tampered with it?
It's not so much the how to me that matters so much as it is that everything points to the memory having been tampered with. Do I know how he did it, no, but I know it wouldn't have been impossible.
A few suggestions:
Harry's memory of what happens when he gives Dumbledore the memory is tampered with. His memory of what happened in Dumbledore's office is false, at least partially. The books are told in the past tense, implying they are what Harry remembers and not necessarily what happened. What we know is that Harry arrived at Dumbledore's office at night after having already spent a long (And unknown quantity of) time with Slughorn and Hagrid, Dumbledore had all the time in the world to a. obliviate Harry and give him a slightly different memory of what he saw in the Pensieve, b. confound him while he doctored the memory and make it so Harry didn't remember there had been an interim, c. take the memory, doctor it, give it back, obliviate Harry and let him hand the freshly collected memory to Dumbledore, d. anything and everything in between
Dumbledore switches the new memory out with the old one He already had the old one to serve as blueprint, and all the time in the world to make it do and say what he wanted it to
Ultimately, to me it doesn't really matter how Dumbledore did it. He could have made Harry remember whatever he wanted. The fact remains that Slughorn acts the way he does about it, Riddle's behavior changed completely, the memory itself is... absurd (I'll write a post!) and... there was the fact that Dumbledore knew to search for it in the first place, which I'll get into a bit below.
Why did he do it?
He already had the proof he needed that Tom created at least two horcruxes in the diary and the ring. He didn't know how many, however.
And... this is worthy of its own post, but Dumbledore likes to be the person who knows Tom better than anybody, who understands him and can predict his actions. Dumbledore believes he knows Tom so well that his guesses are rarely if ever wrong.
I think he deduced, on his own, that Tom had created six horcruxes.
This is a feasibly high number, monstrously high and tied up with a significant magical number that Dumbledore would see Tom as being enamoured by. In other words, a number Dumbledore could believe.
My problem with the six horcruxes is twofold, one being that we're here relying on Tom having only made the number of horcruxes he discussed with his teacher when he was a teenager, the other being that... I'm not convinced he made six. The evidence Nagini is a horcrux is too circumstantial ("Voldemort adores his pet snake and that pet snake is peak r/likeus, Harry, I think it's a horcrux." - Dumbledore being an evidence man who proves things. No really, those are his arguments, Tom likes his snake and the snake is pretty smart), and while Harry has his feverish "I'm a snake" hallucinations he never experiences that for any of the other horcruxes. I could go either way on this one.
Point ultimately being, the memory was always worthless because Tom could easily have been lying about the number he was thinking of, just as Dumbledore could easily have come up with the contents of his conversation with Slughorn on his own.
Secondary point being, the conversation as is is... not damning. Tom asks about horcruxes, gets told what they are, it is information Magicke Moste Evil already had to offer, Tom asks a hypothetical question and Slughorn is disproportionately disturbed. Perhaps I'm desensitized, but if you tell someone "horcruxes means putting your soul in an object so the object has to be destroyed before you can be killed" and they reply "cool, so if I make a bunch of horcruxes I'll be really hard to kill" you should have seen it coming.
It's a conversation that reads as scripted by someone who sees Tom's evil as so obvious, so plain to the eye, clearly poking out from just beneath the surface, that of course Slughorn would see his innocuous question as damning. Dumbledore certainly does.
With that, onto the next point.
Were horcruxes brought up at all, then?
Oh I'm sure they were, otherwise Slughorn wouldn't have responded the way he did when Harry first asked about them. The first part of the memory, with the party, Tom lingering, and then asking about them, that all happened or Slughorn wouldn't have had the reaction to Harry that he did.
My whole hypothesis is that something else happened after that.
Dumbledore knew there was a memory to ask Slughorn about in the first place
Slughorn is an able Occlumens, he always carries the antidote to veritaserum on his person, and he guards this memory like his firstborn.
He never, ever, would have given this memory to Dumbledore if there was a way he could deny its existence, just as he never would have tipped Dumbledore off it existed in the first place. We know Slughorn didn't tip off anyone else, or Dumbledore would have had the memory through that person already.
And yet, Dumbledore has to have known it existed, that a sensitive conversation between Tom and Slughorn happened, in order to ask for the memory in the first place.
Two people knew that conversation had happened, Tom Riddle and Horace Slughorn.
Slughorn never would have told Dumbledore, just as Tom Riddle never would have said a word if the conversation was what we were presented with.
Except, one of them must have.
The only explanation, then, the only way for Dumbledore to have known the conversation happened, is if Tom told him.
This is where I think inappropriate conduct on Slughorn's end is the only feasible explanation. And Dumbledore, as it happens, was Deputy Headmaster at the time. Tom, for obvious reasons, would have been unable to approach his Head of House.
Do I think Tom told him exactly what had occurred, not necessarily, but he must have said something that led Dumbledore know there had been an incident with Slughorn. As for what he wanted to achieve by going to Dumbledore, that's again up to speculation but Dumbledore, for all his flaws, had made it clear to Tom that he's a strict, no nonsense allowed at Hogwarts, type of person.
Tom approaching him explains how Dumbledore knew, and Slughorn having behaved inappropriately is the only circumstance in which I can conceive of Tom doing this. Certainly, I think it proves that the conversation can't have been what we were presented with.
As for his interest in getting the memory, that's for another post but I do think it ultimately comes down to the man having a fascination with Tom Riddle, with collecting every memory he possibly can as he pieces together the Tom Riddle mosaic.
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Hi, I just saw the ask someone sent you about the theory with Slughorn and the SA but I can't find the post where you originally theorized this. Have you ever elaborated on this?
Not posted yet. To convince you people this one's going to take a lot of quotes and be... long, because it turns out there's a story within a story in Half-blood Prince (and that story is hilarious but so awful) so neither of us has gotten around to it/at this point it might just become an RH episode.
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float-me-now · 3 years
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fandom questions for: harry potter? 😊
Hi! Yay for Harry Potter! I’m not really into the fandom and I stopped reading after book 7 (that’s the end for me), but this should be fun! So, just for reference, I was a preteen when I first read the books and about 13/14 when I started the movies.
1. The first character I first fell in love with: Draco Malfoy. I read the first book and I was like: “Oh. This one. The snarky little snob shit”. He was mean yes, but also very entertaining. Tom Felton did the rest (I heard he’s kinda problematic tho, and it kills me inside a bit).
2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now: Luna Lovegood. When she came out in the books I felt that she was too strange and exaggerated even for that world, I though that she was, well... too much? Then I saw the movies, Evanna Lynch was great and as I grew up I understood her character better.
3. The character everyone else loves that I don’t: James Potter. I get the Marauders hype, but I couldn’t for the life of mine bring myself to like him because he was such a douche when he was young. Don’t get me wrong, Draco was a bastard plenty of times, but as the story unfolds we gather info about his bad upbringing, his abusive household, the pressure he’s put under, his insecurities etc. On the contrary, as far as I remember, the only thing we see about young James is that he was horrible to Snape and nothing else. Sure, he grew into a good, brave and responsible wizard, a courageous father and husband, but it’s just... not enough for me?
4. The character I love that everyone else hates: Hmmm I don’t know, some people hate Draco so I guess that’s him?
5. The character I used to love but don’t any longer: Tough one! My taste in characters is very constant through time so I don’t think there’s a character who really fits the description. As I grew up I became more critical towards Snape though, because of his attitude as a professor. I used to justify his harshness towards his students because of his past, but growing up I realized that he was a grown ass man treating literal children like sh*t, and after meeting a couple professors in real life that were utter b*stards too I understood that he could and should have been a better teacher and man to them (even though he actually saved them, etc). I still think he’s a solid character and there are still some qualities I like in him though.
6. The character I would totally smooch: I’m not much of a smooch person but if I had to I’d say Draco or Cedric (the poor boy!)
7. The character I’d want to be like: Hmmm there’s not really a character I want to be like but many of them have beautiful qualities. I love Ron’s loyalty and generosity, Hermione’s intelligence and courage (in the movies, the girl erased her parents’ memories of her to protect them, if this isn’t courage I don’t know what is), Fred and George’s carelessness and Snape’s brains and cold blood.
8. The character I’d slap: This doesn’t come as a surprise I bet, but catch these hands, Dolores Umbridge! Also young!James Potter, and also a half-slap to Slughorn because of his teaching methods that pitted students against each other to enter his (rather ridiculous) club.
9. A pairing that I love: Here comes the difficult part! So, as in everything I read/watch I’m not really into ships but I’ll give it a try. I kind of appreciate Ron and Hermione as a ship: they balance each other and they know each other well, they’re supportive and overall pleasant. Remus and Tonks were pretty cute too, a woman who could change her appearance as she liked and a man who was forced to transform into something he feared? Interesting! As far as fanon is concerned, I see the fascination with Drarry and Dramione as dynamics (Draco is pretty shippable tbh). I would have liked to see more of them (the parallels and differences between Harry and Draco? Poetic cinema), but at the same time I feel like they’d have some work to do to avoid being toxic before actually being a couple (especially on Draco’s part towards Hermione).
10. A pairing that I despise: None in canon, actually. In fanon, anything involving relationships between one of the kids and an adult, and also in*est.
Thank you so much for your ask, I don’t really get to speak often about hp so this was nice! 💛
(Also, sorry for the late reply!)
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charlotterhea · 3 years
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Regarding the Slug Club: As far as we know Slughorn never invited James Potter although James was the heir of the successful Fleamont Potter. Why did he choose to not invite him? It seems like a connection Slughorn would like to have.
Instead he invited muggleborn and Gryffindor Lily Evans while Voldemort was rising and he was the head of house of Slytherin. Was she really that talented with potions and that charming that he decided to completely ignore her blood status?
I just thought ... Maybe he found James to be such a prat and bully that he didn't want to deal with him more than necessary. Or he didn't want to ruin his connections to House Black and James's friendship with Sirius excluded him. And maybe he saw that Lily started to fancy James and choose her to conect with the Potter family.
Maybe he wasn't that fond of her as he wanted Harry to believe. Maybe he just exaggerated in front of Harry because he wanted famous Harry Potter on his side...
Or do I miss something that contradicts this theory? I just wondered why Slughorn would invite Lily but not James...
Btw, I just noticed HP wiki says Snape was a member? I always thought he wasn't invited. Was he really a member of that club?! Is there a canon proof he was? O.o I can't imagine him visiting more than one meeting without bleeding from his ears tbh... XD
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something that doesn’t really make sense to me is how people who are totally anti-snape are so readily pro-regulus. we don’t know a whole bunch about regulus, but from what we DO know, his story practically parallels snape’s. grew up with blood-purist beliefs, joined voldemort as a death eater, voldemort’s ambitions threatened the life of someone they loved, they defected and betrayed voldemort and did what they could to hinder his progress. most anti-snape arguments were that he was a.) blood racist and b.) a general asshole, and we KNOW that regulus was a blood racist himself (he joined the death eaters and was regarded as pretty much the antisirius in the family). we also have pretty good reason to believe regulus, too, was an asshole. so i don’t really get why snape is absolutely, unequivocally, for sure not the „slytherin hero” of the series, but regulus is?
as if horace slughorn and andromeda tonks are not right there
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dramioneasks · 3 years
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Scarred and Sinful - theloveeyouleftbehind - M, abandoned  - Hermione returns to Hogwarts for her final year after the war. With Harry joining the Auror's office and Ron refusing to step foot in Hogwarts, everyone expects her to return for the sole purpose of finishing her studies. Hermione has other plans. Suffering from PTSD after the war and being on the run, Hermione returns to Hogwarts hungry for the party years she was never able to have. Demanding to be re-sorted and giving up her brave and know-it-all roles, she is placed in Slytherin along with Draco Malfoy. Drunken parties and deep conversation ensue, leading to heated arguments about the war and the scars it so literally left. A legilimency attempt goes wrong and Draco and Hermione's consciousness are bound together. Separating their minds will be no easy task, as reversing it could lead to dangerous consequences. A fic where Hermione flirts with danger and slytherins. Lots of pining and a slightly slow burn. (Updated twice weekly, also on FF.net)
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moonlightdancer26 · 2 years
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(In class)
Snape: Professor?
Slughorn: Yes?
Lily: Would you punish us for something we didn’t do?
Slughorn: No, of course not!
Snape: Well, that’s good, because we didn’t do our homework.
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hitchell-mope · 3 years
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Am I a slytherin? Yes. Do I hate every slytherin in the books apart from Horace, Andromeda and Regulus? FUCK. YES. It’s called being sane
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