#anti sam winchester

[mothgardens]

I need people to reblog this (or dm me if u prefer private chats) and genuinely explain why they don’t like Sam Winchester to me. Like tell me what he said or did, please, because as a Sam lover, i do NOT get it.

Sure he isn’t a perfect character, but I think he is one of the best on the show. Considering the writers somewhat neglected him I think he came out delightful.

#supernatural #anti sam winchester #sam winchester #spn #castiel #dean winchester #please talk to me about supernatural #chuck shurley #sabriel #destiel #gabriel spn #sam winchester hate #idk anti sam tags bro #i love him to much

[flower1622]

Characters people like, but I think they are a little boring

(I already made posts about this character and her relationship with Percy)

This one really pissed me off in the first movies

Doing everything for a man? No way!

Girlfriend? Yes. Family? No.

Arrogant, boring and a little selfish.

Sasuke? Ok. Kawaki? Ok. Work? Ok. Friends? Ok. Family? No. A little ungrateful.

#percy jackon and the olympians #percy jackson #pjo #pjo tv show #pjo series #heroes of olympus #percy jackson heroes of olympus #harry potter #anti hermione #anti annabeth chase #naruto #anti hinata #supernatural #anti sam winchester

[the--anarchists]

Ya know, I really do not like Sam all that much. He's just kinda arrogant and annoying and never listens to Dean even though nine times outta ten Dean is right. Dean says don't use your demon powers, he uses his demon powers, shit goes wrong. Dean says don't listen to ruby, Sam listens to ruby, shit goes wrong. Dean says tell the truth and don't keep secrets, Sam lies and keeps secrets, shit goes wrong. I'm not saying Dean is perfect or infallible, but he's at least not an idiot (like Sam 👀)

#supernatural #dean winchester #spn #anti sam winchester

[sunnysam-my]

The difference between Dean fans and Sam fans is that Dean fans acknowledge his awful behaviour, but justify it and Sam fans are just delusional and think he is the sweetest thing in the world who can do no wrong despite the fact that he literally abused his brother for half of the seasons

#I'm sorry but that just the truth #this is just from my experience #anti spn #anti sam winchester #anti Supernatural #supernatural critical #supernatural #dean winchester

[vaicomcas]

9x21 and 9x22 enrages me as much as TMWWBK. I'll have to break it down to multiple posts.

"The Commander"

Sam and Dean haven't even entered the door and they already started judging Cas as soon as they heard the angel call him "commander".

"If you will follow me, the commander will see you now."

What a neutral and normal thing to say! Yet look at Sam and Dean's faces! Look at the contempt they already had, just upon hearing someone referring to Cas in a respectful way!

They go in, Cas was so happy to see them, he hugged each of them warmly. And the first thing they say to Cas? It was to disparage him.

Look at the condescension and judgment on their faces! Look at it!

Cas picked up on their disapproval immediately. He said, "not my idea. The angels had no leader and they insisted on following me."

Dean responds with sacarsm:

Sam: "so this war between angels is really gonna happen, huh?"

Cas: "Not if I can find a diplomatic option for getting rid of Metatron."

Dean: "Good luck with that".

No respect for his noble cause, no concern for the challenges and danger Cas was in.

Cas: "Dean, this angel-on-angel violence, it has to end. Someone has to say, 'stop.'"

Sam responds by skepticism and doubt: "and that someone is you?"

I wrote elsewhere that it takes unimaginable courage for Cas to step up to lead. The amount of self-hating and self-blaming he had to overcome, the knowledge that Metatron had made plans for him to fail in his leadership, his belief that he was a screw up: He fought through all this burden in order to restore his family.

How devastating is it to have the only "friends" he had see his leadership, his army, and immediately cast doubt and disapproval? Immediately put him down as a leader?

And this was only the first 2 minutes of the Winchesters seeing Castiel leading his army. All because Cas being called Commander! He was the commander! It was simply a fact! The Winchesters couldn't stand it. What would they be happy with? If everybody else think of Cas as "a weird, dorky little guy" too?

#castiel #justice for castiel #winchesters critical #dean critical #sam critical #anti dean winchester #anti sam winchester #bitter cas girl #spn 9x21

[mintedwitcher]

So I'm rewatching Supernatural again and I'm getting up to a particular episode, and it's just reminded me of a piece of discourse I saw over on tiktok about Dean.

Basically, someone took the funeral pyre scene where Dean outright blamed Sam for Charlie's death and said that he should've been the one on the pyre instead of Charlie, and the comments were FULL of people crying for Sam and being like "omfg Dean is so toxic/abusive/hateful" like... no, he was right.

Dean told them from the get-go to leave well enough the fuck alone. As soon as he saw the Book of the Damned, he told Sam and Charlie to destroy it. Hell, Charlie had already gotten herself fucking shot looking for it - at Sam's request no less - and Dean didn't want her or anybody else getting hurt again for him.

And then Sam goes behind Dean's back, again. He smuggles the stupid book out. He ropes Crowley, Cas, Rowena and Charlie into decoding it, all behind Dean's back, knowing that Dean would absolutely have his head if he found out.

Sam is the one who cannot let go. He is the one constantly pushing and pushing despite everyone warning him against it, despite being told by numerous immortal entities that hey, maybe lying to your brother who has a severe case of curse-induced roid rage and bloodlust, might be a bad idea? Sam refuses to listen.

His refusal gets Charlie killed.

Yes, Charlie is a grown adult, she does make her own decisions, but fuck, she never would've gotten hurt if Sam hadn't straight up told her to go looking for the stupid book in the first place. Sam set her on the trail to find the Book of the Damned, and that put her on the Stynes' radar, and that got her killed.

So yeah, no, Dean was absolutely fucking right. It was Sam's fault. And he should have been the one on that fucking pyre, not Charlie.

#listen #i have always been a dean girl (gn) #i just Cannot believe someone could look at that scene and the context and say that Dean was the problem #i also cannot believe i am posting once again about spn in all seriousness in this the year of our lord 2023 #anyway #dean was right #anti sam winchester #fuck sam winchester #spn #supernatural #btw i block samgirls #just saying

[trekkiehood]

Obviously I am happy that Sam talked Dean out of his suicidal Malak box plan but it's really ironic that Dean's a bad brother for wanting it when Sam called Dean a bad brother for trying to keep Sam from jumping into the cage.

#supernatural #dean winchester #anti sam winchester #slightly

[crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell]

Sam: What the hell, Crowley? Biting?! Seriously?!

Bitch tf??? You have the guy in chains while you painfully jam a needle into his neck. What is he meant to do? Clap? You're also planning to turn him into a human and the only good thing that came out of Crowley being tortured in Hell was that he got powers. Can you imagine that soon your torture would be for nothing? because the only good thing you got out of it, aka your powers, is apparently going to be taken from you?

Wtf was Sam expecting? A standing ovation?

#Crowley Spn #Anti Sam Winchester #Sam critical #Supernatural #Spn 8x23

[philtatosbuck]

is there a reason you don't ship them besides them being brothers? because if you'd ship them if they weren't brothers, i've got some bad news for ya

i hate sam

#what's insane about THIS is that it feels like you were about to try to explain to me i do ship them #which is. what #anti wincest #anti sam winchester #i guess #i think we have a reading comprehension problem. #i am Fully aware they're insane and codependent. you have to be if you watch the show #i just. don't ship them. or like sam. is everyone on the same page now #and to be clear. i don't care if you do. that ain't got shit to do with me #that post was about wincest folk claiming people said they're a normal sibling relationship #i promise you bitches are NOT saying that

[scripted-downfall]

One of the things that pisses me off most about Sam freaking Winchester is his tendency to claim the title of "the emotionally aware one" or "the empathetic one", ostensibly "try" to help someone only when it's convenient for him, and then turn around and revoke or rescind that help the second it's not.

This happens a number of times, but some examples include:

s02e09 Croatoan: "No, no, no, no, Dean. You're my brother, all right? So whatever weight you're carrying, let me help a little bit." followed by Dean telling him about John's last order (complete with Dean actually begging him to lie low for a bit) and Sam directly contravening that by leaving in the middle of the night (when he knew it'd hurt Dean to not know where his brother was, thus making the weight he was carrying worse) in s02e10 "Hunted"

The aftermath of Hell??? Like sir, wtf??? s04e08 "Wishful Thinking" has "Dean, look, you can't just shoulder this thing alone. You got to let me help." and then, when he finally tells Sam about Hell in s04e10 "Heaven and Hell", "Dean… Dean, look, you held out for 30 years. That's longer than anyone would have." And then there's Sam in s04e14 "Sex and Violence" going: "You're too busy sitting around feeling sorry for yourself. Whining about all the souls you tortured in hell. Boo hoo." (Yes, I know that the second quote was under the influence of the siren's drug, but the whole point is that it was exposing inner thoughts, so. Still counts.)

Every episode touching on the Gadreel business. Going from s08e14 "Trial and Error" ("I want to slam hell shut, too, okay? But I want to survive it. I want to live, and so should you. You have friends up here, family. I mean, hell, you even got your own room now. You were right, okay? I see light at the end of this tunnel. And I'm sorry you don't – I am. But it's there. And if you come with me, I can take you to it.") to s09e13 "The Purge" ("I was ready to die. I was ready. I should have died, but you… You didn't want to be alone, and that's what all this boils down to. You can't stand the thought of being alone.")

This is kinda a part of the last bullet point, but there's a backwards example in Dean's subsequent death... Sam pulls out the s09e13 "The Purge" "No, Dean. I wouldn't. Same circumstances…I wouldn't." line because he wants to hurt his brother, and yet, the second things go wrong, he wants to take it back: "What happened with you being okay with this?" "I lied. (s09e23 "Do You Believe in Miracles?")

And there are more, but these are just the prominent examples that spring to mind now. I might add more if I come up with them, though.

And, to me, this is really bad. Because Sam knows that he's inflicting serious damage, and seems to actively want to do so. (All of the above were examples chosen precisely because they're examples of Sam consciously having "made an effort" to help Dean with a certain issue/fear/concern, and then throwing that very thing back in his face to win a battle.)

And, like... it's great that he's willing to try and help when the situation is rosy. But it really doesn't help that he sets it up as something that can be taken away at a moment's notice. Especially given that this is precisely what their father did: give positive reinforcement only when something was going his way, and pull it away again or use it as a weapon whenever his will is challenged.

And the amount of damage that's bound to do to Dean... I mean, he already spent his whole childhood and adolescence being told that he only mattered in relation to his usefulness, his ability to follow listen to orders, his willingness to accept other peoples' ways of running things without complaint, etc. His feelings? His emotions? His hopes for the future? Oh, those don't matter. And then here's Sam. And Sam... Sam acts like John was wrong. Sam says that a lot. And Sam's the smart one. So Dean maybe (maybe) lets himself believe that. It's hard, and he doesn't always buy it, but he gets a little bit better at it. But the second he pisses off Sam? All those statements about him deserving better --- about how Dean (how everyone) had an innate right to be treated in certain ways, judgements of worth aside --- fly out the window. Then, the fact that he dared to actually presume that he deserved something more is all the more ludicrous because even the person who's been helping him sees how damn worthless he is. And the whole cycle repeats over and over again through the series, until it's this jagged zig-zag that is likely hell on his mental state.

(See below the cut for a personal anecdote that I feel is relevant to this/gives insight to it. It's very me-oriented, though, and I feel kinda selfish for including it, so I'm leaving it as optional. Don't click if you don't wanna see it. No trigger warnings to my knowledge or anything; it's just not solely fandom.)

I always knew I hated Sam for this, but I'd never actually put it into words. And then, recently, something similar happened in the middle of a conflict with a friend. My head often isn't friendly, and I had a friend who helped with that. He was one of a small subset of people I could rely on to help me with certain issues. He was one of my closest friends at the time, and he knew a lot that I've only told about one or two other people. And then we get into a fight and I receive a full two paragraph rant about how horrible I am, tearing into exactly the stuff I've told him I'm concerned about, everything that he'd at least tried to help me with, etc. And I feel worse than I ever did before because even he had given up on me.

And this wasn't my brother. This was someone I trusted, yes, but we'd still not known each other for anywhere near as long as Dean's known Sam. I've not sacrificed nearly as much for him as Dean has for Sam. I've certainly not built my whole life around his esteem the way Dean has for Sam. So if this is how I feel... what does that say about Dean?

#supernatural #dean winchester #anti sam winchester #anti john winchester #but only a bit

[mainenorth]

THEY LOCKED A TWO YEAR OLD CHILD IN A BOX. THEY MANIPULATED A TWO YEAR OLD CHILD TO LOCK HIMSELF IN A BOX. THEY HAVE BEEN MANIPULATING A CHILD FOR YEARS AND SOMEHOW DEAN AND SAM ARE “good parents”????

CAS IS A GOOD PARENT. NOT DEAN. NOT SAM. CAS.

#anti dean winchester #anti sam winchester #jacks thoughts from the moon #jack kline #honestly the winchesters are disgusting manipulative bastards #how do you even watch spn? #every time dean says something it makes me wanna jump in front of a moving train #let’s stop pretending they are good srsly #sorry for the caps lock

[fuzzyflowers22]

SPN Rewatch

“Dead mans blood”

Weird continuity issues with vampires being nearly extinct in s1 and then pretty commonplace in later seasons.

Same goes for a lot of other things they hunted.

It gives me the impression that they weren’t that good at hunting. Or just bad writing.

Same with demons but I think there were other causes for the rise in demon activity.

Weird that John told them there were no such things as vampires instead of just telling them that vampires were extinct.

I kinda agree with Sam because John does put them in danger and give them a lot of responsibility and then turn around and treat them like children. And not in a fatherly “I wanna protect my kids” kinda way. More in a “I don’t want to actually parent I just want them to do what I say” kinda way.

I don’t like the weird disconnect Sam has about liking John when he’s not there and hating him when he is. I also don’t like Jared’s acting.

John is definitely the father who’s only loving when they’re perfect and do everything he says without question.

When they mess up or talk back you can clearly see the shift in his behavior.

If you’re gonna make your children live incredibly dangerous lives hunting monsters… you should probably answer the “why”s so they can learn and won’t …you know, die. It makes it clear that he sees them as weapons because if he was actually making them hunters in their own rights he would be telling them more. He only tells them enough to use them.

Also clear self sacrificing dean moment where he’s willing to be treated like crap just to get the job done and have his family together.

Honestly Jared’s acting makes me hate Sam. Like, could you make a more annoying face wtf.

Like.. when I pay attention to the words, Sam makes sense. But the acting.. the tone and expressions that just make him seem like such an asshole. Jesus.

John really makes it seem like he’s gonna hit him.

Also the “it’s starting again” makes it clear that dean has been in the middle of these fights a lot.

Also the way Sam talks about dean always doing what John tells them is like…kinda blind? Like… dean has to physically get in between them to stop them from fighting (both of them look like they’re gonna hit each other) and Sam thinks that dean should just.. join the fights?

It doesn’t seem like Sam actually wants dean to have a mind of his own.

It kinda feels like he wants to take johns place. I don’t think Sam thinks this consciously. But the way he gets mad when dean does something for John and not him. The way he never really embraces dean’s individuality. The way he kinda talks down to him the same way John does.

What exactly is the point of saying that he wasn’t a father he was a drill sergeant if he’s not changing his behavior?

Also Sam get your fucking story straight! Do you hate him or not! Nothings changed!

Why are the monsters always perverts?

Sam changing his mind on John again!

Also dean you are right and I love you. John is spewing bullshit about keeping them safe. Fuck that guy.

Who the fuck makes their kids call them sir.

#spn #supernatural #dean winchester #anti sam winchester #anti john winchester #fuck john winchester

[witchy-writer-lady]

any of them that you want

Tough desicion. There's a lot of characters that I have thoughts on, so I chose our main trio.

Dean Winchester - as you propably saw from my blog, I'm very much a Dean girl. He's my absolute favorite, having captured my heart from the start. He's kind, brave, loyal. Would do anything for his friends and family. Of course, there are desicions and actions of his (which mainly stem from his desire and duty to protect Sam) that I don't agree with and don't like. He's also very relatable and deserved better. Honestly, what I wrote is barely stratching the surface, I could go on and on about my thoughts on Dean.

Sam Winchester - hoo boy. I'm propably gonna regret writing this one, but anyway. I very much don't like Sam (hence the anti tag, so be mindful of it). I hate him. He's smart yes, but he's also selfish and doesn't appreciate his brother at all, and often manipulates and abandons him. He's also very self-righteous and a hipocrite, etc. So yeah I'm no a fan of Sam.

Castiel - I like him. His introduction and journey to learning humanity was a great one. I admire his friendship with Dean (only friendship. I don't ship Destiel!) and their bond. Of course, like with Dean, there there are desicions and actions of his that I dont like and don't agree with, but other than that, he's interesting character,

Hope that answers your question, anon. Thank you for the ask.

#supernatural #dean winchester #castiel #sam winchester #anti sam winchester #putting it up as precaution so Sam stans DNI #anon ask #answered asks

[vaicomcas]

Saw a fan art and it just suddenly struck me what a fucking big deal it is to save someone from hell and how difficult that is and what sacrifice it must entail and how nobody had any gratitude about it ever never even said thank you I just am so filled with rage so gonna sign off because I can't

#anti dean winchester #anti sam winchester #winchester critical #nothing anybody didn't know already #but the absurdity of it still shocks

[lenalee-academy]

“She just took and read a book with curiosity she didn’t know!”

“He just drank demon blood because a demon lied and told him it was good thing he didn’t know!”

#this sounds familiar #hate both of these characters #many of you deny the parallel #but it’s kind of blatant imo #anti wanda maximoff #anti sam winchester #I didn’t know reading this dangerous book would be dangerous! #I didn’t know drinking demon blood would be dangerous! #please gtfo both of you #mcu and spn parallel #they should date #the two complete selfish idiots deserve each other #not sorry

[trekkiehood]

Someone should make a compilation of Sam repeatedly asking Dean to open up and then Sam's reaction when Dean actually opens up about it which tends to be either freaking out or leaving sometimes both

#anti sam #anti sam winchester