#anti ship

[bewareofdeaddove]

Once you start harassing people over their tastes in fiction, you've gone too far.

You should not be sending anon hate.

You should not be telling people to kill themselves.

You should not be contacting people's family members, job, or school.

You should not be sending people gore.

You should not be telling people that they deserve their trauma.

You should not be attacking people over liking something fictional. At that point, you're the problem. Not the person making things you don't like, YOU. Harassment is never acceptable.

#anti anti #pro ship #profiction #proship #anti ship #antiship #neutralship #neutral ship #ship discourse #fandom

[transfaguette]

Fun fact you don't have to identify with the terms pro or anti you can just have opinions about things, completely independently from other people's opinions on things. In fact I really recommend it.

#coyote.txt #discourse #pro ship #anti ship #yeah im putting it in the tags

[cosmileech]

" if you ship it, you HAVE to be attracted to it! "

I ship lesbian ships as a gay man sometimes. I also ship straight ships. I'm still gay. I don't jerk off to them. And it's very strange to me that antis cannot possibly imagine *not* rubbing yourself out to ships.

#proship #proshipping #pro fiction #ship discourse #anti anti #anti ship #anti proship #proship discourse #anti contact #antis being stupid

[ouchiemyspine]

'cop' is new tumblr buzzword. not everyone u disagree with is a cop. u cant make a 'terf' variation for every group that excludes anyone. words have meaning. the world doesnt revolve around u

#actually disabled #cripplepunk #cripple punk #cpunk #c punk #disability #physically disabled #disability pride #actually autistic #antiship #disability discourse #cripplepunk discourse #discourse tw #anti ship #anti radqueer #anti rq #added more non - cpunk tags because why the hell not

[pro-sipper]

"Dead Dove: Do Not Eat"

About the tag, the origin, and why I think no one on either side of the fandom divide knows how to use it

First of all, I'm crosstagging because I think it's a general issue, not just something for pro or anti shippers. I see the tag get misused on both sides and I just wanted to throw my two cents in

So, where did the term originate? Like all culturally significant things online, it started as a meme. More specifically, a meme from the television show Arrested Development. Character A has put a dead dove into a brown paper bag to store in the family's fridge. On the bag, he has taped a sign that reads, in big bold letters, "DEAD DOVE. Do Not Eat!"

Character B comes across the bag, reads the warning, and opens it anyway. When he's met with, you guessed it, a dead dove, he proclaims "I don't know what I expected".

This is an example of (and has since basically become the spiritual successor to) the "Exactly What It Says On The Tin" trope.

If you want to check out the full history and countless examples of the trope, please check out the page on tvtropes. But for a slightly shorter history - it originated in a British commercial for Ronseal's Quick Drying Woodstain, which the tin claimed "dried quickly". And in the commercial they told you "It does exactly what it says on the tin!" So, the tin says what the product does, then the product does it. You get the idea.

In fandom spaces, the trope just means that the title of Thing (be it movie, show, fanfic, etc) tells you exactly what happens IN Thing. If a show is called "Buffy The Vampire Slayer", you already know it's about a girl named Buffy who slays vampires. If the movie is called "Cocaine Bear", you can bet a bear will get into some cocaine at some point. If there's a fanfic called "Fluttershy Has Tea With Jesus"... you get the idea.

While both tags started out with the same intentions and meaning, I don't think it's any wonder that "dead dove do not eat" has been so easy to misinterpret. For one, "exactly what it says on the tin" sounds more straightforward. You don't have to understand the specific reference to infer it means to check the label (in this case, tags) before purchasing (opening) the product (fanfic)

But dead dove is harder to understand if you don't know the reference. And at a glance, it sounds much darker. Doves have symbolism in multiple religions, and are seen as a symbol of peace. A dead dove evokes images of gore, violence, general unpleasantness. It must only apply to something sinister, right?

The thing about "exactly what it says on the tin" is that the tin needs to say something. You can't point at a blank label and say "here's what you can expect". People would be much less likely to engage with your product if that were the case

In the same vein, slapping "dead dove do not eat" on a fic with no other tags can lead to confusion. In this tag's case, it's a warning. But what are you warning about if you don't also put it in the tags? It leaves people's minds to conjure up only grim and upsetting images of what might be in your fic. Especially when, as it's also common to do, the tag gets shortened to simply "dead dove".

And while, yes, the tag is most likely to get slapped onto fics with dark or upsetting subject matter, that means something different for everyone who comes across it.

Most people seem to think it only applies to inappropriate relationships (age gap, incest, etc). But I've seen it applied to a variety of things, from potentially triggering material (like suicide) to things that simply may not be everyone's cup of tea (like excessive gross-out toilet humor).

In the end, "dead dove do not eat" is a tag that, in my opinion, should not be used as a descriptor as to what type of content your story contains. But rather, a gentle warning to say "hey, I'm specifically telling you what you're about to encounter, so whatever happens next is up to you".

After all, if you read the warning and still open the bag to find something you don't like...

I don't know what you were expecting.

#proship #proshippers #proshipper #proshipping #antiship #pro ship #anti ship #antishippers #antishipper #anti anti #certainly this will lead to nothing bad #anyway if you disagree or have something to add feel free! #this is just pulling from my own knowledge and experience of what i've seen around #so let me know if you're experiences or observations are different #i would appreciate it

[anti--transid]

As a medium supports autistic person who will literally never be able to live without a caretaker,

Transautistic people fucking sicken me , because they only ever want to be the "silly, YIPPEE, tbh creature, very low support needs, 'ideal autistic', able to mask perfectly" autistic person and not the "physically cannot mask, will always need a caregiver, cannot perform basic everyday tasks, requires an aac, ostracized for being autistic, high/medium support needs autistic person, violent when overstimulated"

Transautistic people will ignore us medium/high support needs autistics because they just want the "quirky, silly goofy" parts of autism.

#tw ableism #like. i will never be able to function properly without a caregiver #i literally had to DROP OUT OF SCHOOL because I was so violently overstimulated #and unable to get accomidations that I had a mental breakdown #☕{not the host}. #☕{vent}. #anti radqueer #anti ship #anti trace #anti transage #anti transabled #anti transid #anti transx #anti transautistic #former radqueer #actually autistic

[themoralgoats]

Every proshipper in the Moral orel fandom are disgusting 💞💙💕❤️💜 ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

#moral orel #anti shipping #anti ship #positivity #antiship #proship dni

[bailzi-pisses-on-radqueers]

FUNFACT!!! IF YOU HURT VICTIMS AND APPROPRIATE THEIR TRUAMA AS AN AESTHETIC, AND THEN GET MAD AT THEM WHEN THEY TELL YOU TO STOP AND RISK THEIR OWN SAFETY BY OPENING UP ABOUT THE ABUSE THEY EXPIRANCED IN AN ATTEMPT TO HELP EXPLAIN WHY WHAT YOURE DOING IS BAD, THEN YOURE A HORRIBLE FUCKING PERSON. VICTIMS OPENING UP ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES TO RADQUEERS, SO RADQUEERS CAN REALISE THE HARM THEYRE DOING TO VICTIMS, ISNT "TRAUMADUMPING TO UPSET THE POOR INNOCENT BABY RADQUEERS." ITS REAL LIFE VICTIMS TALKING ABOUT THEIR REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES TO HELP RADQUEERS UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT THEYRE DOING ONLY PERPETRATES ABUSE. YOU CANNOT FETISHISE SOMEONES TRUAMA AND THEN ACT SUPRISED WHEN A VICTIM OPENS UP TO YOU ABOUT WHAT GOING THROUGH THAT AWFUL EXPERIENCE WAS ACTUALLY LIKE AND WHY ITS HARMFUL TO PORTRAY IT AS OTHERWISE. I CANNOT BELIVE I HAVE TO SAY THIS BUT HOLY FUCK ITS BECOMING INCREASINGLY APPARENT THAT RADQUEERS DO NOT CARE ABOUT VICTIMS AT ALL, AND FURTHERMORE ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO DEMONISE ABUSE SURVIVORS.

#ANTI RADQUEER #ANTI SHIP #<- IM ADDING THE ANTI SHIP TAG HERE AS WELL CAUSE PROSHIPPERS DO THE EXACT SAME VICTIM BLAMING SHIT #🎭💛

[radqueer-repellant]

Proship: Just block the tags and move on!

Also proship: *Makes new terms to circumvent tags every week*

Also proship: *Actively looks for antiship tags to harass people*

#antiship #anti proship #anti shipping #anti ship

[truthfully-system]

Nowadays when I see a callout post- especially one about pedophilia or zoophilia, I skip it, cuz most are talking about fiction or like an artist with 2 followers...

Girl, callouts should ONLY be to allert people of an actual danger, a real groomer, someone drawing bill cipher and dipper pines having the rawest sex imaginable to the human mind is NOT a danger, thats a discomfort, and thats not callout worthy.

Like you DO realize that a LOT less people are looking at callouts now, even if there IS a real child/animal abuser being called out, because you idiots call out drawings, right? Thank god when I was being groomed your movement was minimal cuz my groomer might of gotten futher into grooming me ALL cuz ya all make callouts pointless- HELL- it pains me to know people are being groomed rn because one too many people keep making callouts for pointless shit.

#anti #antis #anti harrassment #anti proship #proship #profic #profiction #pro ship #pro fiction #anti anti #antianti #anti ship #discourse #shipcourse #antishipper

[mechagic]

If you think that "fiction doesnt affect reality!!!!" but your sexual awakening came from a tv show or movie or whatever

You don't deserve to talk.

#rambling #Antiship #Anti ship #Antiproship #anti proship #Anti pr0ship

[mumaji-rabid-fangirl]

My hot take of the day--

Look, all I'm saying is-- if Lucifer clearly doesn't like Alastor, than neither do I ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#Hazbin Hotel #Meme #Lucifer Morningstar #anti ship #Alastor #Hazbin Hotel Lucifer stan #Don't get me wrong Alastor is an amazing character I just see him more as a villain than a love interest #I ship them as enemies not lovers

[silentfoxproductions]

A WARNING FOR PICREW USERS

There's a picrew called RADCREW and it features stuff like pro- pedophilia, transid, zoophilia, incest, necrophilia, etc..it's very gross and claims being a "critinclus" is being an exclu which it isnt? Anyways just watch out for them. They're gross. Also they're a pro-shipper! Disgusting

#picrew #anti exclusionist #anti map #anti radqueer #real radinclus #inclusionist #inclusionism #inclus #radical inclusion #tw radqueer #tw proship #fuck proshippers #anti ship #tw zoophile mention #tw trace #tw transx #tw transid

[cosmileech]

I MADE AN ANTISHIP BINGO BOARD!!

Feel free to use this anytime, no credit needed ^_^

#proship #proshipping #pro fiction #ship discourse #anti anti #proship discourse #anti ship #anti proship #proshipper safe #proship interact #proship positivity

[spr1nklebubbl3s]

This is so funny how proshippers thinking can't ship as freely as they want while you actually can shipping as freely as you like as long as it's not pedophilia and incest and this is very weird Why do you always defend ship pedo and incest if you are against it And also no one blames you for not liking popular ships 🤷‍♂️

#anti radqueer #anti ship #anti proship #proshippers #proshippers please interact #anti proshitter

[emotionalsupportdemonmark]

Mark hates proshippers, be like mark!

#plushie rp acc #the click plush #the click #emotional support demon #anti proshipper #anti ship #proshipping is pedophillia #pedophilla tw