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bennettmaximoff · 5 months
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It’s still insane how that side of tvdu fandom vilifies Tyler for choosing to get revenge on the man that killed his mother and friends instead of staying with Caroline, all because they needed an excuse to make Klaus look like the better choice for Care. Which is insane because he has physically harmed Caroline and almost killed her, yet somehow him doing that isn’t terrible as Tyler growling at Caroline bc she slept with the man who tortured him and again, has killed his mother…
“Tyler slut shamed her”… when all he stated was that she slept with Klaus. Even in show, they have Stefan punching him and acting as if he said something egregious [Them completely forgetting all the times they have Caroline call other female characters sluts or insinuate it, but ofc the writers and fandom have selective memory when it comes to certain characters] when Tyler had the right to be upset over his girlfriend sleeping with the man who destroyed his life.
This is the same side that calls Bonnie a terrible friend because she didn’t immediately warm up to Caroline being a vampire. Even though Caroline had literally killed an innocent person—Even though Bonnie made her a daylight ring not too long after. But this is the TVD fandom we’re talking about, so of course black and poc character’s feelings are not an importance to them. It’s interesting how they are so quick to infantilize and baby white characters, yet the black/poc chars are supposed to easily move on from their trauma, deal with it, and prioritize their white counterparts over themselves.
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bennett-mikealson · 2 months
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TDV Stans will state all the reasons why Bonnie was guarded around vampires in the early seasons, yet still say she was a weirdo, or a bitch for acting the way she did.
Them: "you know I get it, her grams died and vampires have done nothing but cause her trauma and despite being a 16/17 year old witch who’s been thrown into the supernatural world having to protect everyone whether she was forced to or not that still didn’t give her the right to be distant to Elena, the Salvatore's and act like a bitch to everyone".
Like UM HELLO grams just died. Excuse Bonnie TF out of her for not being in a cheerful kind of mood.
They sound like Caroline when she said Elena used to be fun before her parents died when they say stuff like that. make it make sense. 
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cancerian-woman · 5 months
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Tyler didn’t slutshame or cheat on Caroline. I wish people actually paid attention but they only heard Klaus running his mouth. Then saw bright colored eyes when Tyler told her to leave him alone AND repeatedly said she slept with Klaus. That is not slut shaming, “Caroline felt bad…” Hm, because she knew Tyler wasn’t going to hear her out on that?
Revenge on Klaus was okay when Stefan wanted it but…of course Tyler wasn’t supposed to feel anything 🙄
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bonkai4ever94 · 3 months
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Credit to the person who made these gif
Why is stefan white knighting for Caroline when Tyler didn't say anything wrong at all he pointed out she Selfishly slept with the dude who killed his mom how else is he supposed to act then she has the nerve to play victim and expect him to apologize to her 🙄 if you want to get with Klaus that's on you but don't expect Tyler to want anything to do with you and stefan of all people should understand Tyler pain too instead of making him the bad guy for having emotions where was this energy when Elena slept with your brother 🤔 🤷
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imagine an 18 year old Elena Gilbert telling you she was ready to die only then to start judging her when her actual death and transformation into a vampire doesn't fit with your image of who she is
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philtatosbuck · 3 months
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salvatore stans have genuinely got the be the most delusional people around wdym "stefan suffered just because bonnie couldn't forgive him for murdering her boyfriend in front of her >:(" what the HELL are y'all talking about. why the fuck should she have to.
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ashleebooksblog · 1 month
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I will ALWAYS find Damon falling in love with Elena as disgustingly creepy because of the fact that he was in his mid-20s when he was turned and Elena was 17 at the time.
Stefan falling in love with her was very creepy as well, but Damon physically looked 25 and he was whining about a 17-year-old child not wanting him and abusing other underaged girls as well.
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katherineholmes · 7 months
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Can’t believe I’m ranting here, but I went on the hellsite (not this one) only to see people justifying Damon and Stefan torturing Elena in season four to turn her humanity back on. After they used the sire bond to make her turn it off (the sire bond that made her extremely subservient and complaint to Damon).
And just….some people really just like watching girls get tortured don’t they? Especially someone like Elena.
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femmedefandom · 6 months
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my fatal flaw? when the narrative has to explicitly tell me someone is “good” I immediately find all the reasons that they’re not
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thehollowprince · 8 months
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Sometimes I remember Damon tortured and killed Tyler's uncle and get angry at all of it. He made Bonnie help capture him and like, told her to clean up the rug afterwards? Tyler and Bonnie deserved better, smh.
Sometimes I remember Damon killed his brother's oldest friend to cover up his own killing spree and get angry.
Sometimes I remember Bree or Uncle Zach or Andie Star or Grams or Jesse or Aaron or insert any number of characters that died because Damon (and Stefan) decided that they didn't like loose ends or because they were bored or for Elena, and I get infuriated. Especially when the narrative never holds them accountable in any way. Or, if it does, it's for half an episode, and then nothing. Water under the bridge, never to be brought up again.
Same with Klaus and his siblings.
I'm sure it's the same with Hope and the Wonder Twins.
And I don't say that because I'm against such violence in these shows (that would be stupid) or because I dislike morally gray characters, but because it happens with such frequency that it stops being "shocking" or anything like that. Whenever one of these "Exception" characters kills someone, especially someone close to another character, most people just shrugged and said, "must be Thursday"
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fieldsofwax · 4 months
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I swear to god every time I get a Stelena/Stefan Stan arguing with me or worshipping Stefan it all comes down to them not knowing the difference between facts and emotional opinions. Please society, learn media literacy and humanities. Realize that morality and ethics are based on opinions and evolve over time. Admit that the way we view art is based on interpretation, and depends on our own emotional bias.
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bennett-mikealson · 2 months
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Bonnie VS Anna:
TVD stans will never cease to amaze me when it comes to how hypocritical they can be with other characters in comparison to Bonnie all because they want to look for a reason to heavily villainize her and have an "I got you" moment with her.
This conversation was in regards to Bonnie lying to Elena and The Salvatores about Deactivating The Bennett because she wanted to avenge Grams and Save the town.
They stated the obvious things everyone always says about Bonnie in season 1 & 2 "I don't like how she acted towards Elena and the Salvatores after Grams died/ why was she "mean" to Elena & The Salvatores when she's responsible for Grams death". Then there the "she was so mean to Caroline like she wanted to be a vampire not to mention she's responsible for Caroline, Tylers dad and Anna death".
While I adressed all their points something that stuck with me is their constant need to fight for Anna as if she was a good person to Bonnie.
I got called selfish because I pointed out how Bonnie didn't need to care for Annas death because Anna put Bonnie in harms was by kidnapping her & Elena to try and force Bonnie to open the tomb. Not to mention she lied to Damon about knowing Katherine wasn't in the tomb and was originally using Jeremy to get info/close to the MFG.
In response to that they basically didn't care about all the prombles Anna casued for everyone and excused her actions because "all she wanted to do was get her mother back".
So let me get this straight:
Anna: Gained Damon and Jeremy's trust despite knowing that Katherine wasn't in the tomb and knwing that she was using Jeremy only to get close to MFG. Then she kidnapped Elena and Bonnie to try and force Bonnie to open the tomb. All in the name of saving her mother.
Bonnie: lied to Elena and The Salvatore's about Deactivating the Bennett Device. All in the name of Saving the town from murderous vampires and avenging her Grams.
Two very similar situations, yet Bonnie's the one that needs to be held accountable for being a bitch to everyone and betraying Elena and The Salvatores trust while Anna is the innocent girl who did what she had to do the save her mother.
Okay 😒
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cancerian-woman · 8 months
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I won't be offended if you prefer to delete this but your post about Tyler had me thinking...
Caroline really made his grief over his mother dying about her so much so that she issued the worst ultimatum and left herself with...
A drunk old man that used to be her teacher.
A long time friend that never seemed like he got over Elena and definitely has codependent issues with his brother so much so that he sacrificed himself willingly a day after their wedding.
And a power hungry hybrid who gave her money he could more than afford to give and said pretty words but also tortured, enslaved and killed people she was connected to....and also definitely had codependent issues with his brother.
I cannot fathom it.
All true facts. It’s late here so a meta! :D
As a huge Forwood shipper and I’m equally very critical of them. It’s a great ship for them both at first, then becomes a ship only for Caroline’s needs and development which isn’t fair to Tyler That Klaroline/Steroline shadow made those fans believe Tyler was the worst Caroline could get. When in reality he was the BEST romantic partner and friend she ever had.
What upsets me more about that ultimatum that Caroline FORCED is that she’s the only one we see comforting Tyler after Carol’s death. Even before Carol died, and Tyler was skeptical about being alpha she uplifted him and Tyler heavily respected what she had to say and went full force with it. Mind you, this is the same Tyler that broke every bone in his body just to be with Caroline. Then re-agreed to slavery for Care. Forwood communicated with each other and called out their faults. The other tvdu ships weren’t doing that!—then we get this full arc of Caroline’s grief and remember she bluntly told Tyler to get over the fact that she hooked up with Klaus because of her impulses and she’s not good1!!1
The series wanted to bury Forwood and they did so in the worst ways imaginable. Caroline gets pregnant with Alaric’s babies forcibly. (I understand Candice was pregnant but they could’ve hid her belly so Caroline wasn’t pregnant.)-Oh and we can’t forget Alaric was in love with her and proposed.
Steroline was supposed to follow the friends to lovers build up the way Forwood did and it never appears that Stefan is all in the way Caroline is. Tbh, even before the wedding Stefan wanted out the relationship he tried multiple times to end things in s8. Caroline refused and wanted it to work. Building them up after Liz’s death was a choice. Stefan manipulated Caroline heavily to when it came Tyler and their relationship.
Klaroline has no obstacles to pass with them. Klaus may give Caroline pretty things, and money but emotionally he’s never shown to give Caroline any support. When Caroline saves Bonnie from those 12 witches which is her first huge kill(correct me if I’m wrong) since s2 she immediately goes to Klaus and he basically tells her to get away from him. Klaus mentions how she’s too good for that small town but Caroline had never said she hated her home. What she did hate was Klaus grown ass destroying shit. They never had a serious conversation about anything tbh. I did enjoy how Caroline called him out at first but TO’s “you aren’t the villain in my story.” Ruined that. Oh and lol these shippers get on Damon for his rape of Caroline yet somehow, someway excuses that Klaus attempted to rape Caroline too in Tyler’s body…. Anyways! I do think a lot of Klaroline is rooted in Klaus wanting control over Tyler, and Caroline is a way to exert control over Tyler because of his love for her.
Okay this is long af, sorry! To end this off Tyler loved Caroline for who she was. He never wanted her to change, he valued and respected her. Never abused her or anyone she loved. He listened to what she had to say. Caroline’s other love interests NEVER saw her the way Tyler did. Btw, I wish people understood Tyler never, not once slutshamed Caroline for having sex with someone else. He was only mad that she slept with Klaus as if Klaus did not ruin Tyler’s life and murdered his mother. There’s obviously a reason Caroline didn’t want Tyler to know and continued to ignore the boundaries he placed up in s5 so they could just go back to the way SHE wanted them to be. It’s sad they were ruined because 5B of Forwood has moments where you can forget their broken up just based on Forwood’s chemistry. I forgot to add, some fans pretend Tyler couldn’t give Caroline a good life. Tyler wasn’t financially struggling, and would’ve done anything she asked of him. I think it’s a little problematic that Tyler did say everything he liked about himself was Caroline lol. But, he wanted nothing but her and their happiness. Just without the enslavement from Klaus.
Thank you for the ask!
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bonkai4ever94 · 2 months
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I have noticed something why does stefan get all the Credit for saving mystic falls all he did was stand there like a idiot holding katherine when he could have just thrown her into hellfire and kept himself alive bonnie did all the work why wasn't there something in the school that actually Acknowledged her sacrifices
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whitedemon-ladydeath · 3 months
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😔 I hated how much everyone judged Elena when she became a vampire. she literally drowned to death and was dealing with heightened emotions and grief. she was 17(?) years old and she said she had been READY TO DIE
ik Stefan was trying to help her but I also feel like he just could not be there for her in the ways she needed, especially because Stefan is a damn ripper who doesn't know the meaning of constraint or control. Damon was RIGHT! she needed to learn how to control the blood lust. she was miserable and everyone was trying to make her something she's not and Damon just took her at face value and offered her fun and a good time
and yeah ik the ✨️sire bond✨️ definitely played a part but Stefan, Bonnie and Caroline being so judgemental to her bec she was struggling so much. Elena didn't know about blood sharing (Damon should have said something) but then Stefan lectured her about it and then didn't even explain Why it was important in the first place
Caroline, as much as I love her, was being really harsh with her and to an extent I understand when it comes to Damon bec of all the things Damon did to her but damn!!! Elena really struggled so much and everyone just kept being so damn judgemental with this girl 😭
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philtatosbuck · 6 months
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something something when elena found out klaus and caroline slept together she didn't say a single word against caroline but she was the only one to ask if tyler knew and be upset on his behalf for how he found out
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