#anti stelena

[maliagf]

Rewatcing TVD season 5 and I'm on 5x04 where Stefan has his memory loss and I'm having a lot of Steroline thoughts so I'mma just dump 'em all here.

So first thing that happens is drunk Stefan calls Caroline hot when he first sees her, establishing that he does find her attractive on a baseline level. Meaning, he probably would've noticed her when he came to Mystic Falls if he wasn't so distracted by having found a doppelgänger of the girl that turned him into a vampire.

Then there's the difference between how Elena and Caroline handle amnesia!Stefan's bloodlust. Elena, in classic her-fashion, makes it all about herself. You were a great boyfriend to me. You never scared me. So, naturally, when he tries to kiss her and she tells him she's with his brother now, he feels betrayed and runs off. Elena tried to get him to remember by recreating how they met, she distracts him from his bloodlust by telling him all about their relationship. It works temporarily, but this makes it so that Stefan ties his control to being around Elena ("Whatever monster I was capable of being, I could see why I was different around you.") so when he finds out about her and Damon, his control goes down with their relationship.

But when Caroline sees him feeding on Jessie, she tells him, "This isn't you. Okay, you might not remember, but I do. You are better than this! You are not this person." Not only does she solely tie it to who Stefan is as a person, but as a byproduct, she informs Stefan that he has other people who care about him besides his ex and brother. It's no wonder she's the only one he trusts after that. And then she and Stefan agree on a plan for her to call him every hour to check in, because Caroline prioritises making sure Stefan's okay before making sure that he remembers. ("I don't want my brother's advice. I don't wanna hear how I supported you, Elena. [...] Don't worry, I'm not gonna go on a ripper binge. Besides, Caroline said she'd call me every hour to make sure I was okay, and, uh... I actually do trust her.")

And then there's the scene in the Salvatore Tomb before Bonnie's funeral where Stefan comforts Caroline. It's in my, like, top 10 scenes of theirs at least. ("Me. You have me. Look, you were there for me last night. Sounds like you're always there for me. So let me be there for you.") Elena told him that he always showed her and others compassion, but that doesn't do much when she disrespected him by lying by omission about their history and the fact that she left him for his brother. Caroline tells him that he's a compassionate person and then backs it up by showing him compassion. So when Stefan sees her hurting, he wants to return that. He puts his own worries aside for the time being, asks her what's wrong, says he wishes he could remember Bonnie, offers physical comfort and tells her he'll still be there for her despite him not remembering their friendship, because he sees how much she does for him and others and he knows she deserves it.

#the vampire diaries #tvd #steroline #stefan salvatore #caroline forbes #meta #tvd meta #the vampire diaries meta #steroline meta #anti stelena

[writinginthesecrettrees]

Rebekah: You broke up? I thought Elena was your epic love. What happened? Stefan: She slept with Damon. Me: AFTER you guys broke up, Stefan. Stop acting like she cheated on you.

And yet no one calls him on it! Gawd he acts like such a victim!!!

#vampire diaries #also i kinda hate how everyone keeps calling the stelena romance 'epic' #it wasn't #it was a high school thing #high school romances are not epic #until you're growing old together after 60 years of marriage with all the ups and downs of a lifetime #the fact that stelena has been called (in universe) 'epic' since a couple episodes in is just bs #um... #anti stelena

[jennifersminds]

Am I your dream girl? You think of me in bed but you could never hold me you like me better in your head. Dream Girl Evil - Florence + the Machine (insp.)

#elena gilbert #elenagilbertedit #dailyelenagilbert #tvd #tvdedit #tvedit #femalecharacters #femalecharacteredit #teendrama #the vampire diaries #thevampirediariesedit #nina dobrev #ninadobrevedit #anti delena #anti stelena #florence + the machine #dream girl evil #jennifersmindsgifs #tvdu #tvduedit #katherine pierce #katherinepierceedit #tvdversegifs #tvdverseedit #lyric edit #lyricedit #songedit #elenagilbertgifs #pro elena gilbert #elena gilbert defence

[fieldsofwax]

Will never understand the needless morality logic Stefan stans place around their love for Stefan (which only ever seems to exist to hate on Damon). I will always prefer a man that kills for an emotional reason over a man that kills just due to the lust to kill. Bloodlust is a desire just as much as “I killed him because I wanted to”-Damon always kills for humanity/emotional reasons. It’s just that stefan denies that bloodlust is a desire, while Damon admits his desire. Will always prefer a man that owns his flaws instead of denies them. I guess it’s my personal emotional bias, that denial of flaws imo is less redeemable than reveling in one’s flaws (Damon). Denial of flaws (and looking down on other’s) is the whole basis of the Christian white supremacist b.s. I’ve lived under my whole life.

#do you prefer a man that revels in his flaws or is in denial of his flaws #tvd #the vampire diaries #stelena #delena #Paul Wesley #Ian somerhalder #Damon #anti Damon #anti Stefan #damon stan club #Damon Stan #Stefan Stan #anti stelena #anti delena #tvdu #Christian vampirism #vampirism #Damon and Elena #defan #psychology of stanning #why we love the characters we do #moral bias

[blairwaldcrf]

But say I do leave her here under your protection, what then?

[tvd 3x13 | every klefan scene ?/?]

#klaus mikaelson #anti delena #anti stelena #tvd #tvdedit #tvdversegifs #statistically elena dies because of originals-- klaus s2 rebekah s3-- #but as for every other aspect of her health klaus was dead right about this lol #stefan stalvatore #damon salvatore #my gifsets

[whitedemon-ladydeath]

bleh hate the Stefan girlies who blame Elena for everything and their break up. See I remember when not too much earlier Srefan was doing everything in his power to push Elena away, including threatening to drive her off wickery bridge (WITH HIS HUMANITY ON) to get back at Klaus. Stefan is to blame for a solid bit of their relationship falling apart stop blaming everything on the teenage girl

#anti stefan salvatore #anti stelena #elena gilbert

[hydesjackiespuddinpop]

Me telling @tamlinsffiddle about Stefan almost driving Elena off of wickery bridge. This was a fun convo ngl.

#tvd #anti stelena #anti stefan #cw: abuse #I love stelena and my feelings on Stefan are complicated #but he fucked up here #like dude this was the bridge Elena’s parents DIED on #and he KNEW that #and I know he was dealing with these emotions from the Klaus stuff #but that’s an explanation not an excuse

[cuddlyreader]

Hi! Since we both consider delena and leyton among our favorite ships, I'm so curious which one you dislike more: brucas or stelena?

Stelena. Period. I cannot stand Stefan at all.

#anonymous #my thoughts #the vampire diaries #anti stelena

[qvnthesia]

What's your take on the Salvatores' relationship with Elena? Just asking because you've made your stance clear on Damon's (hate him) but I'm not able to understand your opinion on Stefan?

First of all, let me make one thing clear — by human standards, none of the romantic relationships on the show are healthy. They are all toxic by human standards, and healthy by supernatural standards.

Keeping this point in mind, we'll go back to the days when we clicked on the 'play' button of the first episode of TVD (on Netflix).

Oh, how intrigued we were after constantly watching Stefan and Elena's cemetery interaction on our Netflix highlight carousel. We never knew how loyal we'd become to some of the characters on the show, how disappointed we would be at the quality of writing, and how much we'd swear to create our own versions of the show through writing (and we did).

99% of the people who began watching TVD saw only two ways for Elena — Team Stefan or Team Damon. If you belong to the 1% category who saw a different path for Elena right from the beginning, you're either batshit insane for considering Matthew Donovan as a plausible romantic interest for Elena or a genius intellectual for seeing Elena herself and herself only (and also seeing Barolena).

When the show began, we first got Stelena. Stefan was respectful to her, he was loyal, kind, caring, basically a man any woman (or man) would want in her/his life. Then Damon rolled into town and oh, boy, how much everyone was whipped for the badass Salvatore brother who tore hearts out of hybrids, staked his claim on ours with his smirks and his eyes, and kept us entertained with his sarcastic quips and one-liners. As the show went on, some of us rooted for Stelena, while others desperately wanted Elena to ditch Stefan and get together with Damon.

After eight seasons' worth of the lover debacle, DE emerged as the winner. SE stans were heartbroken and went anti-Elena, whilst DE stans waved their happiness in front of everyone's faces and worshipped DE like how they do now.

As an SE stan from the start, I was downright heartbroken. Why would Elena go for Damon? Why? He made her life miserable. He killed Jeremy, threatened to kill Caroline and Matt, and constantly tormented Stefan and Elena. Why?

As those questions ran through my mind, I started comparing the two of them with respect to their relationship with Elena.

When we analyse Stelena, there's one element that stands out the most—mutual respect. Stefan always valued Elena's choices (TVD S3 Finale, he saved Matt because Elena wanted him to save Matt over her). He only intervened if they were too drastic for her mortal capabilities. Elena cared for Stefan (TVD S2 E6, the moonstone retrieval got Stefan in a vervain full of trouble and Elena rescued him along with Baroline). She always saw the good in Stefan even though Stefan considered himself to be crap. The entire time in S1, he constantly contemplated on suicide because he was never meant to be a vampire. He was a vampire with blood addiction.

Now, when I put this statement forward, we'd remember Ripper!Stefan. We'd take into account that he massacred an entire village and he killed people. That doesn't make him any lesser than what Damon did, right? Because when Damon came into the picture, he killed tons of people. He raped Caroline. He tormented Jeremy and Bonnie and Elena. Yes, Damon killed people, and so did Stefan. That doesn't make Damon unworthy of Elena, right? Damon and Stefan are the same, it's just our preferences, that's all.

That's wrong, because there's only one thing that differentiates the Salvatore brothers.

Stefan hesitates to kill. It's in his nature. He feels remorse for the people he's killed, for who he becomes when he's the Ripper of Monterey. Damon doesn't hesitate to kill. If killing people gets him what he wants, he'll kill people alright.

Stefan killed thousands of people, but he felt remorse, he felt guilt for his actions. He spent years trying to be good (30 years of Ripper Detox). It's shown in the show how he genuinely wants to be good, how he wants to moderate himself even though he'd be less powerful than a regular vampire. Stefan wants to be good, he doesn't want people to endure the misery that he endures thanks to his past behavior. He doesn't want people to feel guilt, he wants people to live their lives fully because he knows what it's like not to fully live your life and keep swimming in that anguish for so long.

That's why he helped Caroline after she transitioned. That's why he was so intent on helping Elena because it was downright clear she wasn't accustomed to vampirism. People like Caroline, Katherine, Damon, and Klaus may have benefited from vampirism because it made them better versions of their human selves. But people like Cami, Elena, and Stefan certainly didn't. When Stefan realized there was a cure to immortality, he could give it to Elena because Elena valued her humanity and as a human, she was a better person than she was as a vampire sire-bound to her sire.

Damon, on the other hand, kills and kills and kills and has never expressed any guilt or regret for it. He didn't apologize for raping Caroline, he didn't apologize for snapping Jeremy's neck after Elena rejected him, and he didn't apologize for his actions. He's never owned up to it, he's always blamed his actions on some circumstance or the other. Stefan constantly kept warning Elena about his own darkness. He never thought he was going to be worthy of her after he saw how kind she was. But Elena made him see that he was the one for her, solidifying their love.

Damon was selfish. If he wanted something, he'd get it, no matter who stood in his way. If someone did, he'd kill them. The only way he could be tolerable or even controlled was if either someone took him down or Elena was under his control.

Elena: Why am I thinking about you? Damon: Because you're a vampire now. And part of you knows you're a lot more like me, than you are like him.

She's questioning herself and her own intentions and it may be a hallucination, but it's Damon right there. It's his literal thoughts speaking to her in such a manipulative manner. It's his thoughts that changed her, not the other way around. Damon changed Elena for the worse, Elena never changed him.

This is just a part of the entire story. If you go through the S4 transcripts, you can see how Elena's dialogue constantly trails off. It's as if she's intoxicated by something and she isn't in control of her own train of thoughts. She's constantly asking questions because she's nothing but confused and lost. The sire bond, coupled up with Damon's manipulative and hedonistic personality, warped and twisted Elena's sense of right and wrong and fiction and reality.

Now, if any DE stan might stumble upon this, they'd be like 'Oh! But wasn't Klaroline manipulative too, more emphasis on Klaus?'

But no! That's not the case! Because between Damon and Klaus, Klaus is more direct than Damon. That's one of the things I like about Klaus. He's very direct with his feelings, be it hatred or affection. He bit Caroline because, at that moment, he utterly despised her. But after Caroline admitted she saw goodness in him as she was dying, Klaus saved her because a part of him has always wanted people to see and understand the real him that's been inside of him all along. He's very direct with his actions and with his promises, although he does find loopholes.

Like Klaus, Stefan was also direct. That's why Stelena got a point for communication because they always communicated with each other, which is an important aspect of a relationship.

Damon was never direct with Elena, it's pretty clear in S5 and S6, how they're constantly going back and forth primarily because of Damon. He never clearly communicated with Elena, unless she'd reject him, he'd go ahead and kill people (e.g. Aaron Whitmore). If Delena wanted to hash things out, time for a sex romp.

The entire time on the show, the presence of the Salvatores reduced Elena to an object. It was as if she was their plaything and only they owned her and no other man. That's why I absolutely loathe the two brothers.

If it ever came down to SE or DE, I'd choose Stelena because as Rose said, Stefan is always good for her if it ever came down to Damon and Stefan. That's an assurance right there and buddy, if I were in a relationship, I'd need plenty of assurance.

None of the Salvatores deserve Elena. Certainly not Damon, and not Stefan either. He watched Damon abuse Caroline and didn't even interfere. He stalked Elena too, and I just went 'yikes'.

Elena's better off with herself, Baroline, and with the Mikaelson gang in NOLA. I despise Damon, fully anti-Damon space here, but with Stefan, it's a love-hate relationship.

Thank you for your questions <33

#pro elena gilbert #anti damon salvatore #stefan salvatore #anti damon #anti delena #anti stelena #bonnie bennett #caroline forbes #klaus mikaelson #klaroline #elejah #klaulena #klena #elena gilbert #the vampire diaries #tvd #anonymous #elijah mikaelson #thanks anon! #questions #qvnthesia a&a

[elena-mikaelson]

I saw a reel the other week highlighting the fact that Elena basically lost 6 parental figures before she even graduated, and at one point her brother. So no wonder she cried a lot. I really don't get why people hate her so much. Yeah she's not perfect and she messed up at times, but she definitely does not deserve all the hate she gets.

She was a teenage girl who made mistakes! Most teenagers are not dealing with life and death decisions! Caroline was turned into a vampire because Katherine wanted to mess with Elena and the Salvatores (and to have a vampire to sacrifice for the sun and moon curse.) Bonnie died, Jeremy died, Vicki was turned and died.

I think another element to the hate is that when Damon was abusing Caroline, Elena saw it and she hated him. Stefan knew and told him to lay off, that Caroline wasn't a toy, but was in no position to overpower Damon. So Caroline was abused and raped.

Then they wanted Elena and Damon to start to be a thing, and if they addressed that Elena knew the extent of the abuse/if Caroline had told her and Bonnie--Damon wouldn't be an option/dead. So they just ignored it. They made little jokes "enjoy your time with Miss Mystic, I know I did."

Which made many think that Elena knew the extent of what he did to one of her best friends, and that she wasn't a girls girl, and was a terrible friend to Caroline and Bonnie. Which placed the blame of bad and inconsistent writing onto the fandom's perception of Elena and not the entire show.

I cannot imagine a timeline where Caroline told season 2 Bonnie and Elena and they didn't kill Damon.

I feel like perception of Elena is really tied to her relationships with the Salvatores, how she treated them (nevermind they have minimum 150 years of age to her 17), if she ended up with the "right one" and for the overall toxicity of D*lena specifically.

#ask #elenamikaelson #anti damon #anti delena #anti damon salvatore #anti stefan salvatore #anti stelena #all of those tags just in case

[userlaylivia]

Delena

&

Stelena

delena:

I LOOOOOVE THEM SO MUCH MY OTP OF ALL OTPS THEIR BUILDUP GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT WAS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT I'LL NEVER LOVE ANOTHER SHIP AS MUCH AS THEM THEY ARE MY BBS FOREVER!! 💞💕💗💖

stelena:

I can't stand them, their one of my biggest notps and no matter how many times I rewatch I can't ship them!! s1&2 I can tolerate them but after that just no!! they actually were unhealthy and toxic in S3&4 and that's all I'll say because I have amazing mutuals who ship them and I don't wanna insult them lol

#ty for asking <3 #answered #tht70sblog #anti stelena #because I don't wanna offend anyone lol #ask game

[supermanandlois3]

The sexual tension in the scene is off the charts. 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

#tvdforever #the vampire diaries #Team damon #anti stefan salvatore #anti stelena #damon salvatore #elena gilbert #delena

[fearlessfairy]

Elena's speech about how happy she was when she was in the local abuser's bed the whole summer like she was never happy with Stefan, that made me quit stelena.

#anti stelena #anti delena #anti elena gilbert #i still think elena is overhated tho #but this really isn't one of her brightest moments #stefan was literally traumatized #he got out from drowning over and over #being kidnapped #with erased memories #her summer was his literal hell on earth #but she had the best summer and she needs to know he's okay after this because #she does not want to spoil her memory of the perfect summer #yeah stefan #dont you dare to take that from her #stefan salvatore

[jennifersminds]

stelena vs delena will always be so unserious because each side of the fandom will be like “our ship is superior because he abused her less!!!”

and look when i say i love a good old enemies to lovers with tons of emotional baggage i mean dair and elejah (we have taste 😌) and not chair & delena/stelena like how ppl lose their morals for such creepy ugly men amazes me

no bc it's so funny like,-

Stelenas: Damon was so toxic, he manipulated Elena and never respected her autonomy

Stefan: Stalking Elena for months, trying to drive her off a bridge

Delenas: Stefan was so abusive, he tried to drive Elena off a bridge, bit her, and slept with Rebekah just bc Elena didn't love him

Damon: killed Elena's brother, also bit her, also slept with Rebekah just bc Elena didn't love him

like,, the call is coming from inside the house. And the argument is literally never going to end because both sides are right, but also wrong with zero self-awareness.

and yes !!! controversial but enemies to lovers only work when the man is simping while hating otherwise it's just icky. He has to multitask- fight and kneel at once or I don't want it lmao

#dair is the ode to enemies to lovers girlies #(also i don't mind a bit of violence with my enemies to lovers but they need to be self aware within the narrative eg. spuffy) #katherine x peter is a good example too #dair #anti stelena #anti delena #anti damon salvatore #anti stefan salvatore #elena gilbert #elejah #asks <3

[fieldsofwax]

I swear to god every time I get a Stelena/Stefan Stan arguing with me or worshipping Stefan it all comes down to them not knowing the difference between facts and emotional opinions. Please society, learn media literacy and humanities. Realize that morality and ethics are based on opinions and evolve over time. Admit that the way we view art is based on interpretation, and depends on our own emotional bias.

#anti stefan salvatore #anti Stefan #anti damon salvatore #anti Damon #anti stelena #anti delena #delena #stelena #tvd #tvdu #the vampire diaries #stefan salvatore #damon salvatore #media literacy now #media literacy #literacy #morality #ethics #damon and elena #damon and stefan #morality police

[blairwaldcrf]

elena gilbert was an orphan before she left high school. one that found out she was adopted after her parents died and couldn’t have the angry rant with those dead parents about how they had lied all her life. she had to deal with the fact that just by being born and existing, everyone she loved would be in danger because she was a doppelganger. this lonely girl who already suffered depression and ptsd, who already had a world of survivors guilt, was then made to live with a whole new kind of survivors guilt that made her suicidal--- something that got far too glossed over.

she was groomed by stefan if you look at things objectively, and put on a pedestal as an ideal, someone who was responsible for making him handle his addiction. she was assaulted over and over both physically, mentally, and sexually by damon while she was still a minor and couldn’t defend herself as a human. her family and friends were constantly tortured by this same man.

she was seventeen. with no parents. who knew she was vulnerable because of a spell made hundreds of years ago. and her best bet at protection was two century-old vampire men, so no matter how bad or good they were for her, she had to keep them for her survival and her friend’s survival, because abuse was still better than death. 

the writers spent only one or two scenes pointing this out in the early seasons when alaric tried to protect her, telling damon it was better for him to stay away from elena. telling stefan the same. but alaric was then shown to be unable to protect her from these vampires anymore than elena was.

elena gilbert was a victim, and who she turned into was a product of that. this is why her change into vampirism and how it stripped away her original characterization was tragic and devastating, but not bad plot writing in my opinion. it was inevitable. she deserved so much more from life and she deserved so much more in death.

#do i hate who she became around caroline? ofc #do i understand it? very much #elena gilbert #tvd meta #tvd #anti damon salvatore #anti stefan salvatore #anti delena #anti stelena #cherry talks #***