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The Rise of Skywalker could have continued to build on the ideas Yoda presents to Luke in The Last Jedi. Rey could have held her own amongst a bunch of legacy characters and been the 'nobody' who saved the galaxy. Instead, she becomes a vessel for the most boring and uninspired kind of nostalgia. Rey takes on Palpatine, and The Rise of Skywalker seems to think that we'll buy the stakes presented. But the shoehorned story about Rey battling an evil legacy is a cheap cover of what the filmmakers really want to do: make this story all about Luke Skywalker.
Rey defeats Palpatine by melting him with Luke and Leia's lightsabers, killing herself in the process. It's Ben Solo who cares enough to give his life to Rey. She comes back to life, and suddenly the power of the dyad, 'a power like life itself', isn't enough to save Ben Solo (the actual remaining member of the family the movie is so obsessed with). [...] Rey doesn't learn how to be enough on her own, independent of any lineage. She doesn't get to be with Ben, and her friendships and the themes of found family that Star Wars does so well are set aside in favor of fetch-quests and nostalgia worship.
Madilyn Ivey - How Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker's Focus on Nostalgia Hurts its New Heroes (Collider)
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audreyii-fic · 3 months
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4 year anniversary of TROS: a social media retrospective
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caripr94 · 6 months
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Look what the news site for Disney has the audacity to say. In case you didn't have enough proof that they consider Hayden Christensen as nothing more than nostalgia bait.
Just when this guy is getting some respect and drawing in fans to their media, Disney is considering kicking him to the curb. And all they can say as an excuse is basically "we don't have any more stories for him" and "he's getting too old to make him look young". After they made up a canonically inconsistent adventure to drag desert hermit Obi-Wan into, CGI'ed up a 70-year-old Mark Hamill to play a mid-20s Luke Skywalker, and brought Palpatine back from the dead to cram into their sequel trilogy finale.
On the bright side, at least they can't butcher Hayden!Anakin anymore like they've done in these recent shows. But on the other hand, it gives me more reason to see Disney Lucasfilm crash and burn so that someone else can rebuild it from scratch and bring Hayden back in to give him the respect he deserves.
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theweeklydiscourse · 3 months
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Could you imagine if someone said something like “ATLA would’ve been a better show if Zuko was tempted towards joining team Avatar and fighting to end the war but instead chose to pursue evil and staunchly rejected any chance of redemption . Wouldn’t it be so compelling if after the Crossroads of Destiny, Zuko just became more evil? Yeah, I mean fully embracing fire nation nationalism and becoming like his father. I would love it if the narrative presented us with the possibility of his redemption only for it to subvert those expectations and have him begin and end as an ontologically evil villain who remains static for all three seasons. What an amazing character arc that would be.”
This is what “Ben Solo should never have been redeemed” discourse sounds like to me. I know people have their interpretations, but I am genuinely so baffled by the idea that his character would’ve been improved if they had done what is essentially a retread of Anakin’s arc in the prequels. It’s complete and utter nonsense and I’m so annoyed by all of the people talking about that idea as if it’s SOOOOOO DEEP when in reality it’s probably the shallowest storyline you could come up with.
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vaderdala1541 · 4 months
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Alright let's settle this once and for all!
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Where my Reylo Sylkis at
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dalekofchaos · 1 year
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Episode IX Battle Of Knights by AJ Pratt
an concepts for an alternate Episode IX of Star Wars titled 'Battle of Knights
Rey
With the galaxy depending on her, Rey reforms the Jedi order and trains force-sensitive beings in secret to avoid being hunted by the dominant First Order. She develops expert skills in stealth and evasion, using these skills to become the first Jedi Shadow. As a shadow Rey is able to intervene when necessary and use the force in unique ways to help those in need without drawing attention. Her secondary responsibilities are to the Resistance as an officer of the New Republic. She guides her allies through the realm of scavenging, helping them rebuild with limited resources to survive the First Order's onslaught.
Finn & Poe Dameron
Poe Dameron embraces his role as head of the resistance and leads his honorable soldiers by example. Finn discovers his force sensitivity and trains under Rey and the other masters of the new Jedi Order. Instead of becoming a Jedi, he re-establishes the order of the Guardians of the Whills. (Finn utilizes scavenged jet trooper armor and a custom "powersaber")
Kylo Ren/Ben Solo
As Supreme Leader of the First Order, the systems under the control of Kylo Ren prosper under the firm grasp of the order. He becomes more respected than Snoke and his tyranny, though Hux's rampage across the galaxy continues to draw the righteous wrath of those outside the First Order's expanding jurisdiction (a fact that the citizens of the order conveniently ignore). Kylo Ren falls in battle to the reborn Palpatine, only for his spirit to return to his body with the help of Anakin Skywalker's ghost. The resurrected Ben Solo fights together with Rey once more to put an end to the true menace.
Darth Talon
Formerly a gladiator within the pits of Exegol, Taliann joins the First Order as Kylo Ren's right hand, the Dark Talon, executing any task assigned to her perfectly and without fail. She later abandons the First Order after its defeat to lead the Sith as Darth Talon.
The First Order
A surviving clone of Palpatine raises a clone of Rey into an assassin of the dark side. Phasma returns from her defeat full of hatred and serves the Sith as the head Jedi Killer. Hux ascends to the role of Supreme Commander of the First Order.
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tljisthegoat · 6 months
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Reylo could've started a new era for Star Wars but Disney ruined it for all of us... I'll never forgive them for that.
Now they wanna bring back Rey??? FOR WHAT?! YOU ALREADY TOOK EVERYTHING FROM HER?! FROM US!!!
I HATE MODERN DISNEY WITH ALL MY HEART
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mynthara · 1 year
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my PTSD from post-TROS days is at it’s all time worst today 💀 after all this time I don’t think I could watch Rey’s new spin-off series without going off on a rampage
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agir1ukn0w · 14 days
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it’s been five years and i am still haunted by those fucking movies
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greylittlebird · 10 months
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Toxic SW Fans After TFA: This is just copying the original trilogy! Rey is just female Luke, wokeness gone mad do something new!!
Toxic SW Fans After TLJ: Wait this is DIFFERENT? This trilogy is doing something new and the characters from the original trilogy have changed and evolved after decades!?! No, no, make Rey Luke’s daughter and just like him!
Toxic SW Fans After TROS: Wow, that made no sense and was terribly written hmm it’s almost like they were bullied into catering to the most toxic corner of the fandom who didn’t know what they even wanted and pushed a bunch of stupid contradictory theories because they didn’t care to understand this story solely because it’s not the original trilogy I WONDER WHO DID THAT
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'The Rise of Skywalker' ends with Rey flying to Tatooine, where Anakin and his mother lived as slaves, where he watched his mother die after brutal abduction and abuse, where Luke felt stuck and was only freed by the savage murder of his aunt and uncle, and where Leia spent a brief time as a sex slave. It's here that Rey buries Luke and Leia's lightsabers[.]
The scene is shot as if the audience is expected to be floored by how perfectly it wraps up the entire story. [...] But from a storytelling perspective, it just doesn't work.
Madilyn Ivey - How Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker's Focus on Nostalgia Hurts its New Heroes (Collider)
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basimibnishaqs · 11 months
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small list of things tros got right
rey skywalker
rey skywalker yellow lightsaber
trio hug
force sensitive finn
leia lightsaber
finn shooting hux in the leg
the trailer music
jannah & lando
kylo dying
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caripr94 · 4 months
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Rogue One/Sequel Trilogy Salt
'A New Hope' is the story of a boy who grows up in a tranquil home and dreams of joining a war. What if we have the story of a girl who grows up in a war and dreams of returning to the tranquillity of home?
Gareth Edwards
This quote is evidence that Jyn Erso was written to be a foil to Luke Skywalker. Before Rogue One came out, I and a bunch of other fans were speculating Jyn to be Luke's wife and Rey's mom (due to the resemblance to Rey, the speculation about Rey being Luke's daughter, and the parallels between Jyn and Luke (and between Jyn and Mara Jade, Luke's Legends wife, to the point where it seemed like Jyn might become the Disney canon version of Mara)). Even after the film came out, I was still hoping for Jyn to pull a Phil Coulson for that, particularly with that kyber crystal necklace she had.
Years later, after Lucasfilm has mangled up Rey's origins along with the latter two sequels, I haven't completely given up on that idea, but it's been barely on my mind, and I've been torn between that and Jyn's relationship with Cassian Andor. But now, reading that quote has stirred up my feelings towards the former (and from what I've been recently reading about Cassian, he's kind of old for her anyway). It seems like a great opportunity that Lucasfilm has wasted.
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theweeklydiscourse · 3 months
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Yeah…I really don’t see how the plan for Ben Solo to go down a path that ends in darkness and villainy is a preferable outcome for his arc. Also, I think that not enough people consider how that outcome would reflect on Han, Leia, and Luke as the individuals who raised him. Because if the child of two of the legendary heroes of the Galaxy suddenly turned to the dark side without warning, I feel like that would signify that something went wrong with the way they raised him.
And if that were the case, that means that those problems must be addressed meaningfully in order for the story to come to a satisfying conclusion. Delving into why he did what he did necessitates an interrogation of his family and raises suspicion on the quality of their care and family dynamic. This is why so many commentators on the state of the sequels argue that Ben was just inherently inclined towards the dark side, that he was evil from birth and there was nothing his poor parents could do to stop it. Because the notion that Ben was inherently evil absolves the trio (and the viewers by extension) from reflecting upon the mistakes or flaws that might’ve led to his fall to the dark side.
This is not me claiming that Ben had no agency in his decision to go dark, but I do think that my points are relevant in discussions about his arc in the sequel trilogy. It doesn’t make sense to me. It doesn’t make sense to have the child of the heroes be the character to reject redemption and lean into the inevitability of his supposed evil and the impossibility of any other alternative. Having him be irreparably evil undercuts the overarching themes of not just the sequel trilogy, but of Star Wars as a whole.
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vaderdala1541 · 1 month
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How The Throne Room Scene Should Have Gone Down
Palpatine: Hello my grandchild
Rey: *laughing* You expect me to believe YOU of all people? The guy who created a war so he can terrorize the galaxy? Are you for real?
Palpatine: You know it's true.
Rey: Nope. You're feeling like every other person in the galaxy in the Force, only Force-sensitive
Rey: I feel a very weird sense of familiarity from Luke and Ben in the Force however. Which can only mean that I'm related to them both in some way
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