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happylittletrees3 · 1 year
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reminder as strange world hits theaters: stories like this and the owl house? that’s not disney. that’s the creators who fought tooth and nail to tell their stories and have their viewers reflected on screen.
disney fights against them and we will see that in the coming weeks as strange world gets censored and has hate directed at it for portraying humans as the one thing humans tend to hate:
being human.
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I don't expect Disney to create any form of high art of filmmaking anymore (for the most part), and that's fine. I can accept that. What I cannot accept is that Disney continues to be treated with kid gloves when it comes to general criticism. An art's quality does not measure whether or not it is or isn't art. Mediocre art is still art. Bad art is still art. Art is subject to criticism. One of my biggest pet peeves when it comes to the kind of art Disney creates is th "It's for kids!" defense when given negative criticism--as if kids are not deserving of *good* art.
Exposing a kid to yet ANOTHER Frozen sequel probably won't hurt them. Taking them to see Wish probably won't do damage. At least not by itself. However, that doesn't mean they don't deserve better.
One of the things I appreciate about the non-Disney movies I grew up with is that as a child, I enjoyed them for what they were on the surface, but I was able to grow up with them and develop a deeper understanding of the themes and appreciate them even more. Like, I loved The Last Unicorn as a child, because why wouldn't I love a movie centered around unicorns. However, I have a deeper love, appreciation, and understanding of the themes of loss of innocence and grief. And I think even as a kid, I was very aware that this was NOT a Disney movie...even before I developed an understanding of brands. It was challenging me. Disney never challenged me. It spoon fed me feel good stories, and that's fine. There's a place for that. But feel good doesn't hit the same as a story with a nuanced ending where a protagonist gives up a generic happy ending to do what is right for those imprisoned by another's selfishness.
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the-far-bright-center · 7 months
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Disney SW fans who claim to love Anakin but think the Prequels suck, you're part of the problem. And the OT purists who hate the Prequels and then turn around and blame them for why Disney SW sucks...yeah, you're part of the problem too.
One of the many reasons the Disney SW 'Sequels' were so terrible and destructive was because the people making them decided to completely ignore the importance of the Prequels and reject them as an intrinsic part of the saga. And they seemed to believe they were pandering to 'what the fans wanted' by doing this. But the Prequels are half the entire story as Lucas told it, and they just threw it out the window. The Prequels COMPLETED the saga. But Disney pretended that the saga wasn't complete yet and that it was up to them to do so. Instead of just making 'interquel' material from the beginning (like Rogue One, etc), they arrogantly took it upon themselves to 'finish' a story that was already completed back in 2005. And in doing so, Disney also decided to reframe the saga into something decidedly lesser (a repetitive grimdark story where the cycle 'wasn't broken ackshually', instead of an uplifting and transcendent mythic fairytale), but one which would allow them to continue making 'new canon' material indefinitely (cause that is more lucrative for them). But the Prequels had already reframed the saga and given it a very specific meaning. Without the Prequels, ALL of Star Wars loses that meaning. And without a happy ending for the OT characters and an unequivocally positive resolution to the their storyline, the entire saga is rendered into a perpetual tragedy. So, unless and until so-called 'Star Wars fans' can acknowledge and embrace just how intrinsic the Prequels are to the fictional story they supposedly 'like', they will be running around in circles trying to blame Disney's failures on the very thing that Disney so carelessly ignored and discarded in the first place.
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themattress · 5 months
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The Problem with King Magnifico
King Magnifico is the best part of Disney's Wish. He's got a sleek design, the most fun animation, and Chris Pine does a fantastic job hamming it up as a classic-style Disney villain.
With that said, he's a good villain, but fails to be a great one.
At first, I thought this was mainly because of all the Member Berries; as the movie goes on he increasingly starts aping past Disney villains which kind of makes him lose his unique identity. However, I've now realized that there's a deeper reason, which lies in comparison to Dreamworks' superior Wishing Star movie, Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, and its villains:
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For some reason, the writers of Wish tried to push King Magnifico into all three categories, and it just doesn't work. It is possible for a Sympathetic Villain to develop into a Serious, Scary Villain or for an Unsympathetic Villain to develop into a Serious, Scary Villain. But it is exceedingly difficult, if not downright impossible, to blend or have a transition with a Sympathetic Villain and an Unsympathetic Villain, because that creates way too much of a dissonance. This is where Magnifico was fumbled: before his turn to a Serious, Scary Villain they try to have it both ways, setting him up as sympathetic due to his backstory, seemingly genuine desire to do right by his kingdom even if the way he does it is misguided, and the love he shares with his wife, only to also have him unsympathetic by depicting him as a petty, petulant, thick-headed narcissistic douchebag. This results in confusion in his motivation for why he is doing what he does during the first half of the movie or why he turns to the forbidden magic that drives him mad with power, and also makes it unclear whether we are supposed to see his final fate as a tragedy or a case of him getting what he deserves.
It's very obvious from The Art of Wish that King Magnifico got changed in development. The earliest drafts clearly had him as a humanized villain who starts off sympathetic but goes off the deep end into irredeemable evil; his initial altruistic goals having given way to him just wanting to play God. There's no indication that the forbidden magic was originally going to have any effect on his mental state at all; the fact that he would even use it was simply meant to be his crossing of the Moral Event Horizon, showing that he would rather destroy his kingdom than let anyone or anything other than him have control over it. But the perceived need for Member Berries took a toll on the character, and thus he ended up undercooked.
...Still better cooked than anyone else in the film, though! Go see it for him, people!
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rjalker · 2 years
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[ID: Ten digital drawings of open fangs against a black background, with the teeth on the top in the colors of the trans pride flag, with stripes of blue, pink, white, pink, and blue, and the teeth on the bottom in the colors of the pride flag, with stripes of lavender, pink, red, orange, yellow, green, light blue, dark blue, and purple.
Each design has different text inside the mouth. Most of the text is white, but some words have been changed to other colors to add emphasis.
The text reads, in order:
"Disney wants you dead".
"Disney donates more money than you will make in your life to the conservatives who want to kill you.". The words 'more money than you will make in your life' are in dark blue, and the words, 'want to kill you' are in dark red.
"Disney's 'representation' is poisoned by the blood of those who have died, and will die because of the laws their funding helps pass".
"Disney wants trans people dead. Disney wants gay people dead. They want your money first.". The word 'trans' is in a gradient of the trans pride flag, the word 'gay' is in a gradient of the gay flag, and both of the words 'dead' are in dark red, with the word 'money' in dark blue, and the word 'first' in dark red.
"Disney is not your friend. Disney is not your ally. Disney is a corporation run by people who want you to fork over your money before they fucking kill you for being a 'crime against God'".
"Baymax will never be cute enough to bring back the dead."
"Support trans creators instead of the corporation that exploits their labor and uses the profits to fund laws that will make it legal to murder them". The words 'trans creators' are in the colors of the trans pride flag, the words 'exploits their labor' and 'uses the profits' are in dark blue, and 'to murder them' is in dark red.
"Support queer creators" and in much smaller text beneath the teeth, "not the corporations that want to kill them".
"You are worth far more than Disney will ever offer.". The word 'more' is in much larger font than the rest of the sentence.
"Pride month is over. Never let go of your rage". The word 'pride' is in rainbow colors, and the words 'never' and 'rage' are in dark red.
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I can't put these designs on Redbubble so I am explicitly encouraging every single person who sees this post to save these files, share them wherever the absolute fuck you want, and if you're able to print them out and put them on shirts, please fucking feel free to do so. As long as you are queer or are donating the money directly to queer or homeless people, you can even fucking sell them as long as you're an individual person and not a company or corporation.
If you would like to tip me, a trans, autistic, physically disabled person who cannot fucking work, both my cashapp and venmo are "Rjalker".
You can use these as part of headers, icons, moodboards, what the fuck ever you want to do, as long as you aren't supporting Disney or other fucking hateful groups of people.
TERFs, truscum, aphobes, and other exclusionists, including mspec-lesbian exclusionists, can fuck the hell off.
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ranmagender · 2 years
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VFX Artists seeing the slate of movies and shows Marvel just announced for the next 4 years
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haydanakin · 1 year
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Can we please just fire Dave Filoni and Kathleen Kennedy now. I'm so tired of Padme and Naboo erasure. Both of them are important to Star Wars! And I hate the foreshadowing of the ST. The ST should've never happened at all. Screw JJ Abrams and Rian whatever his last name is.
ANYWAYS, the Jedi Order is reborn, and Luke is guiding the new Jedi. The New Republic has formed, and the galaxy is recovering from years of darkness from the Empire. What are sequels again? Idk. Sequels don't exist. I just see a new golden era in the galaxy.
If you're wondering, anon is responding to this post
Part I - Dave Filoni I will say Dave Filoni under the direction of George Lucas gave us amazing stuff-- Ahsoka Tano, Rex, Fives, Echo, Jesse, expansion of Order 66, the Clone Wars themselves. But him on his own? Not so great.
Ahsoka's walkabout in s7 was boring, the two sisters had potential but blundered in the execution. The BadBatch arc in s7 featured super amazing Anakin, and I did like the whole 'rescue Echo' plot line, but the Bad Batch as a TV show… I have some criticisms of it.
I like the ' what happens to the Clones after the Empire forms? They've served their purpose-- are they still relevant?' story line. It would be a great one to explore with normal clones. In fact, following Cody around, a clone who did participate in Order 66 and had his mind taken over, would've been a novel experience.
Instead we get genetically enhanced clones who don't have programing chips cause they're special snowflakes and don't partake in Order 66 bc they're special. Getting to see their side of Order 66 really brought nothing-- it's the same as the Jedi. Why are the clones turning against the Jedi? No one knows! It's rinse and repeat watered down version of ROTS, and i'd much prefer watching that movie over the first two episodes of TBB.
I will also give credit-- Dave Filoni and Favereau gave me The Mandalorian. A side character who doesn't know he's the main character just trying to make his way in the larger GFFA. He's a normal guy with a job. Then new dad has to deal with his adopted kid having Wizard powers. ME Likey. It's similar to Andor in down to earth, not life and death, Jedi/Sith fate of the Galaxy type of thing. It's what normal life would've been like in GFFA.
Third season and some of second season haven't felt like that though. Din keeps meeting all these famous people that are tied of in the 'Fate of the Galaxy' --Bo Katan, Ahsoka, Boba Fett, Cad Bane, Luke fucking Skywalker-- instead of more normal people. I do appreciate the smallness of season 1-- we had Peli, and Omera, and Karga. Characters not known to the larger galaxy, but still important in their own right.
Part II- Female Characters
Star Wars has never appreciated or loved it's female characters with the exception of Princess Leia. Original Trilogy follows Luke-- male character, who with the help of an older male character, goes and finds another male character pilot to help them infiltrate a small moon space ship full of male characters.
There are exactly TWO female speaking characters in A New Hope and one gets kriffed off to 'enhance male pain'.
Now, by nature of the story, Padme Amidala get shafted before she was even ever named or created -- Luke was raised by his aunt and uncle so something must have happened to his mother. She is 'unknown mother' defined only relationship with her son and then later to her husband.
It's not until the Phantom Menace when she gets her own storyline, that is little to non effected by her relationship to Anakin. She's a queen who has someone invade her planet, and with the help of two Jedi and the Gungan People, saves the day.
Anakin helps of course, by first winning them enough credits to get off tattooine, and second by blowing up the control ship, but both situations could be solved without Anakin. He becomes the unnecessary character-- his introducution is so low-key you don't realize the story is about him until Revenge of the Sith. He's a supporting side character in both Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones.
Both prequel movies that don't feature Anakin as protagonist or antagonist are hated by a large majority of SW fans, and usually because of the crime of not being perfect. Jar Jar Binks is just as annoying as C-3PO imo, but because the protagonist of TPM is Padme Amidala, the movie is hated, as opposed to ANH which features Luke.
Padme's fate was written before she even had a chance to exist, and therefore has no agency. I've seen others label her as weak, pointless, lame, because she dies of a broken heart, 'oh why didn't she live for her children' SHE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE OKAY. George had already killed her by then, she can't live for her children when the author has decided otherwise. The nature of a prequel is it must narratively co-exist with the story already told. Padme must die or be removed from the picture so that Luke can be raised by his Aunt and Uncle. Anakin must fall to the Dark-Side so that he can be Darth Vader and do a heel-face turn at the end of ROTJ. the end has already been written. The beginning must fall in line.
Getting back on topic. Fathers are mentioned in The Mandalorian- which makes sense since it's about a Father and his Son. oh wait that's seems that's what Star Wars is about. Prequels were Anakin picking which father-figure he wanted to follow. Luke saving his Father. Din Djarin adopting a son with magic powers.
But Bo-Katan mentions her father TWICE and her sister doesn't even get a mention. Even though Bo was there at Satine's death, and the reason Bo left death watch and stood up to Maul. When Satine died, Mandalore split and fractured and any attempt of restoring mandalore just resulted in more fracturing and shattering.
In Obi-Wan Kenobi not mentioning Padme was criminal. The whole reason Anakin fell was to save her. Her daughter and son were featured prominently and her name didn't come up once besides two vague mentions.
SW needs to treat it's female characters better. Right now Leia is still the only one that's almost universally loved by the fans. Even Bo Katan has issues. By not acknowledging her past and mistakes and death watch , instead of making her a stronger character, the writers have made her weak. Making mistakes and learning from them and growing from them are what causes her to be relatable. So far, Mando S3 has been rushing her redemption process. They're having her reunite Mandalore, but she hasn't atoned or made up for her failings in the past.
It was her involvement in Death Watch that lead to her sisters death, and the writers essentially ignoring that and trying to hide it is lazy and the antithesis to character growth.
Part III - Disney's Anti- Prequel campaign.
The sequel trilogy… is problematic. While trying to emulate and give us the 'star wars' feeling again, all the films did was undermine the finale of the original trilogy.
What was Darth Vader's return to the light for if we're just going to bring back Palpatine? What was the point of Luke's rejection of the darkside and declaring himself a Jedi in the face of evil itself, if we're just going to have him become a hermit on a planet because he gave up? What was the point of the Alliance to Restore the Republic if we're just going to blow it up because it's corrupt?
The problem with trying to avoid the prequel trilogy is the sequel trilogy just became the prequel trilogy. Hear me out.
We have a corrupt Republic that is destroyed by an Empire. A Jedi student falls to the Dark Side and serves the Empire. A desert dwelling person with magical powers is told that they are the key to saving the galaxy. Am i talking about the Prequel Trilogy or the Sequel Trilogy?
The difference is the prequel trilogy was planned. From start to finish, no half baked retconning or switching directions (both original and sequel trilogies suffered from this) George Lucas had the entire prequels laid out. Their largest crime I believe is in writing/dialogue-- not the plot. It's complicated-- how does a republic turn into an empire? How does a Jedi Knight become a sith? How does the Jedi Order become extinct? Through War and Careful Planning. So while the prequels are not perfect, their world building brought much needed light and explanation to the Original Trilogy. It answered questions, but the answers were not what everyone liked.
They wanted the Republic to be conquered by an outside Empire, not for it to be one and the same. Fans wanted Anakin to be strong and heroic, and not a man who is crippled by self-doubt and his greatest failure is his greatest strength- his breath and depth of love.
The sequel trilogy should've been the struggle of not repeating the same mistakes. Of avoiding the past not repeating it. Of Luke not giving up and not becoming Obi-Wan. Of Han not becoming Qui-Gon Jinn or Ben Skywalker not becoming Darth Vader. Or Rey being her own self and not being Luke 2.0 aka finding out that her grandfather is evil just like Luke found out that his father was evil.
Star Wars is was the first to suffer from Disney's new nostalgia machine where live action play by play of beloved animated movies are created without souls; and sequels that are just the same story retold with the next generation. 'Happily Ever After The End' no longer exists, the hope of a happy ending destroyed with the next sequel announcement. Where does it end Disney? When you've wrung the last love and enjoyment out of your original titles? When consumers no longer go to the movies to see your new Frankenstein movie? When catering Fan Service is no longer profitable?
Disney's addiction to sequels and reboots found it's first home in Star Wars Sequel Trilogy and continues in the rest of the Star Wars universe. What is Boba Fett if not a sequel to Mandalorian? What is Ahsoka if not a sequel to Rebels? What is Obi-Wan Kenobi if not a sequel to the Prequel Trilogy? What is Andor if not a prequel to Rogue one?
The Mandalorian didn't start out that way. Was it in the same universe? yes and so by nature it makes it a sequel. But there were new original characters and an original story. Now it's become a sequel and a prequel; the connecting link instead of a stand alone.
So yes anon, Padme and Satine deserve better. But you know what? We deserve better too.
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fangeek-girl · 6 months
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Realizing as I finish my Ahsoka rewatch that Filoni went the same way Johnson went in the Disney trilogy. They really want to make “everyone can become a Jedi” happen, even if it means retconing the whole original and prequel trilogies in the process.
That’s basically what Sabine’s whole journey is. She has no affinity with the Force, but she can suddenly use it because she believes it to be. It’s straight out the Disney fairytale brand.
It also explain how Ahsoka can suddenly use telemetry when she never did before. She literally willed that ability into being.
I wouldn’t mind, if the basis of the GFFA wasn’t build on the fact that being Force-sensitive is rare. There’s a reason the Jedi were monk and gathered Force-sensitive children in a single place. The Temple was a safe place for younglings to explore their limits, and to learn control. Left to themselves, Force-sensitive children could become incredibly dangerous. Now imagine people all across the galaxy able to do crazy Jedi shit if they work at it hard enough.
It simply makes no sense. And no amount of explanation and doubling down with fan-favourite characters can make it better.
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"We're so proud to celebrating a 100th anniversary of our empire by firing 7000 employees! keep watching our shitty ass MCU stuff, you bunch of losers!"
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foreverfalling21 · 1 year
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I have never felt so amazing and happy while also pissed as fuck. That finale was truly so fucking beautiful and the fact that we could have had so much more makes me want to rip apart Disney HQ.
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theshippirate22 · 1 year
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so i guess as long as disney keeps making really shitty live action remakes i guess i’m just gonna have to keep listening to peyton parrish metal covers of disney songs and fantasizing steve and eddie to them
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The difference between Twilight and the MCU (despite talks of a Twilight reboot being in the works) is Twilight's hold on its genre was temporary. After Breaking Dawn: Part 2, the copycats slowly disappeared and its specific audience was able to grow out of it and find new interests. The MCU, on the other hand, has refused to give itself a break, because Disney's only concern has been staying present in the box office. As a result, they made themselves the "standard" and the "fans" expected all superhero movies be like the MCU. Now, superheroes aren't as "cool" anymore because everything is the same now.
Vampires in media made a comeback because the Twilight hype died down. I think people, as a result, sought vampire content elsewhere, and those who didn't like Twilight could finally tall about vampires without the conversation turning into one about Twilight. That's never been able to happen with the MCU. The only reason there might be a Twilight reboot is because it's been dead long enough for the fanbase to actually miss it and what better time to bring it back then when vampires are popular again and after it has experienced a "renaissance"?
Disney could have paused after Endgame and allowed writers to regroup and think about the direction the franchise could go from there. They too could have experienced a renaissance. But they refused to let the brand die. You cannot be born again without dying first. Now people have lost interest and they have themselves to blame.
PS: Just so it's clear--I hate Twilight and I think it's slimy that it's being brought back now that queer audiences have been able to reclaim vampires. I am just using it as an example since I feel like Twilight is to vampires what MCU is to superheroes.
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the-far-bright-center · 7 months
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People saying 'everyone loves Hayden Anakin now that he has a good script'....FUCK OFF. The script was never the actual reason the dudebro fanboys hated Anakin in the Prequels. They had already viciously hated on little Ani back in TPM. And not because of so-called 'bad writing', but because he was a cute, precocious little kid and they couldn't stand that being associated with their beloved 'badass' Vader. And likewise, they IMMEDIATELY decided to hate Anakin in AotC when Hayden was cast because he was a pretty boy instead of whatever headcanon they wanted for him. They resented Anakin in the Prequels because he was first depicted as a sweet and caring child who loved his mother, and then later because he was an emotionally vulnerable young man who had a romantic storyline and was motivated by love and his fear of losing those he loved. The fanboys hated Prequels Anakin because he wasn't Vader. They wanted Vader. They have always worshipped Vader. THAT is the reason. Not the script. Seriously, there are so many older male fans who are STILL bitter over a 'pretty boy' playing Anakin. Stop blaming the script for everything. The Prequel films and Hayden Anakin were only thought to be universally 'hated' due to the fact that the fanboys ruled the internet in those early days, and spread the hate around with no one to counter it. The Prequels are way better films than anything Disney could EVER hope to produce, and it's infuriating that people are acting like the material Disney of all things churns out is somehow the 'reason' people like Hayden Anakin now. No, it's because they've had time to go back and appreciate his role in the Prequels and seen that it's actually a compelling story and his performance is, in fact, good.
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onimiman · 1 year
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And yet, for all of the shit that Disney has spewed at us and keeps spewing at us with these soulless products, I still watch it. Why? Is it out of sadomasochism? No. It’s out of pity now; pity for what Star Wars used to be, even when it was a different kind of bad when Lucas was doing the prequels. At least those films felt like they had some artistic merit to them.
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rjalker · 2 years
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Disney doesn't care about you. They don't care about gay people or their rights. They don't care about trans people or their rights. I don't fucking care how cute you think the new Baymax shit is, do not fucking give this corporation your fucking money.
They fucking literally donated to support the "Don't Say Gay" bill.
Do not give them your money. Do not fucking kid yourself into thinking they care about you. Instead of fucking losing your shit because someone in a trans pride flag shirts appears for two fucking seconds in a Disney show, why don't you support actual trans writers and artists?? Why not actually fucking read books written by actual queer people?????
If all Disney has to do to make people forget about its very real crimes against real fucking queer people is show someone in a trans pride flag shirt for two seconds or have two gay characters go on a date, then how much fucking worse do you think they're gonna get if you all let them get away with this because you're so fucking enamored by their """representation""""????
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dross-the-fish · 1 year
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On Wasted Potential
I had an interesting discussion with a co-worker about what it takes to really make me angry when I consume a piece of media and, honestly, when I look back at all of the things that provoked any kind of strong reaction it always boiled down to one thing: wasted potential. In nearly everything that inspired a negative enough reaction that I felt like I wanted to talk about it I had some kind of expectation of quality or there were genuinely good elements that were squandered. This is why the subjects of my ire tend to be sequels and adaptations of works I already like. I get a lot of flack for being critical of the Disney remakes but I stand by my previous statements that these are, every single one of them, complete and utter trash. I feel this way specifically BECAUSE on some level I would have liked to see these movies adapted into live action. Or more specifically.... I wanted to see the stage versions of these movies adapted into film. Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid, the Hunchback Of Notre Dame, Tarzan and the Lion King all have stage adaptations that are generally pretty good to excellent and actually do bring new layers to these stories. The Hunchback of Notre Dame in particular is my favorite and the only one of the group not to make it to Broadway and that is a fucking crime because it's phenomenal. My first encounter with it was actually the German production from the 90s and I could write a whole essay on that by itself but the La Jolla version that was adapted from that is every bit as good and in some ways better. This is by far the clearest example of an adaptation actually improving on the original work. I love Hunchback, it's my favorite of the Disney movies, the stage adaptation is even better. And when I watch the stage versions I find myself thinking wow...why didn't they take some ideas from this and put it into their shitty remakes? I wasn't asking for Robin Williams by any means but why did I have to endure Will Smith when we could have had..
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Somebody like James Monroe Iglehart or any of the broadway genies. Seeing what could have been and just know that it's not what we ever will get has soured me permanently on the live action remakes. They don't stand up to the original animated films by any means and they don't stand up to the stage versions. Despite having huge budgets and a ton of advertising they are the weakest adaptations and seeing that they continue to be shat out while Disney fails to offer any new or quality content makes me hate them even more. I am so tired of a company this big continuing to feed us garbage and I genuinely hope all of their upcoming remakes fail as hard as pinocchio did. Maybe then they'll be forced to put out something decent again.
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