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holden-norgorov · 4 years
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I just want to say that I’m so close to reblogging every single anti-Rajalagang analysis I have ever written in these two years of torment just because now we have the proof we deserved that the finale was all utter bullshit (at least regarding the Kalagang resolution). 
Rajalagang stans needed to hear this.
Kalagang stans deserved to hear this.
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lunaathorne · 5 years
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It's been a few months but I think of how Kalagang's ending sucked and I weep.
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Tumblr really just recommended me the blog of someone who ships Rajalagang like really???
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philtatosbuck · 3 years
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ngl the reason i don't ship k/lagang over ralagang is that from the very start k/lagang is very based in cheating, in which kala has been emotionally (and psychically) cheating on a good man who has offered her at least three outs, one before the marriage and two during the proceedings, that she chose not to take and also chose to continue to be with rajan while cheating on him with wolfgang and that does not appeal to me? an ot3 with them is ten times more appealing than fics where the ot3 ending is ignored and kala just ends up leaving rajan who she has been entirely unfaithful to the entire time despite the fact he WOULD have let her out of the marriage. like kalagang does not appeal to me in the way it probably does everyone else. i would rather have had a build up conversation to it obviously as well as more seasons for rajan and wolfgang's relationship but you'll pry the ot3 ending from my cold dead hands.
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gcrtschase · 4 years
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hi it’s been 2 years and i’m still pissed about rajalagang
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arthursmerlinkink · 4 years
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i think rajalagang is so disappointing to me because im so invested in kala x wolfgang, both as a couple and as characters themselves, and the fact that their romance is literally one of the best that’s ever been written in a show/movie?? like i know rajalagang isn’t that serious (in the grand scheme of the shows many well written romances and relationships and the fact that rajalagang as an endgame includes both of them together + happy, and i do like rajan so ig it’s nice his heart wasnt broken??) but i was so invested wolfgang x kala only that ending hit me harder than it should’ve 💀
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People who actually think Kala’s story was about a love triangle or a white saviour
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kalawolfang · 6 years
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funny how raja*lagang stans are so quick to accuse people that criticize their badly written ship of racism when they’re first ones to ignore kala’s character development and what her story meant for brown girls.
seems like fetishizing ra*an and wolfgang is more important than kala’s struggles
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realmythology · 6 years
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okay, so something i’ve been seeing a lot is people acting as though it’s somehow bad or bigoted to dislike the kalagang ending just because it’s ending in a threesome. and i’m sorry, but... wow.
people should maybe be careful not to imply that just because something is not a boring ol’ straight relationship, it’s somehow ignorant to dislike it. sometimes things are just badly written. 
a huge chunk of the sense8 fandom is in the lgbt+ community, and i’d guess it’s pretty much impossible to watch and enjoy the show without at least being an ally. so the implication that it’s ignorant to dislike a polyship that kind of came out of nowhere and was very poorly written (specifically for shock value/to make a statement, which lana has directly stated) just because it’s poly is very short-sighted. we have other polyships in the show that are well-loved and well-received by fans, and pretty much every kalagang fan upset by the special has said that it’s not because it’s poly. it’s because the finale took the couple in a completely different direction than how it had been written for two seasons.
why are we complaining? because a lot of us feel that the finale destroyed kala’s whole character arc to look more “woke” than her just choosing to be with the man she was in love with would have been. because kala’s very compelling narrative of feeling pressed between passion and duty was one that resonated with a lot of women, and it ended in an illogical and impractical way that most of us could never emulate. because she didn’t explain to rajan that she had been unfaithful to him repeatedly in their marriage. because rajan didn’t get to hear the whole truth, nor did he react to it the way any sensible human hearing their spouse is having an affair would have reacted. because kala didn’t suffer the consequences of her infidelity, or any other consequences she had been gearing herself up to face after making herself marry rajan. because the crippling indecision between duty and love that had been a huge point of stress and unhappiness for both her and wolfgang for years was brushed off as a joke repeatedly (“have you talked to either of them?” “*drinks*”). because this was never a love triangle.
why are we not complaining? because we hate poly ships. because we don’t. a lot of us actively stan ot3s. 
i can’t speak for others, but i really do love rajan and always have, and i’ve felt bad for him all throughout sense8 because the show went to lengths to point out that kala doesn’t love him. but just because i love him doesn’t mean i think that all the developments of the past two seasons can be ignored because he “deserves” a happy ending (which he does). i love dani even more, and still think it was very tasteless to include her having sex with lito and hernando in the end of the episode despite lito’s thousand declarations of being exclusively gay.
tl;dr acting like you’re smarter than others for liking a polyship just because it’s a polyship doesn’t actually make you seem smarter or more more open-minded than the people who were disappointed by the sense8 finale. it just makes you sound pretentious. obviously this doesn’t apply to anyone who enjoyed the polyship but hasn’t gotten up on a high horse about it. people like what they like, and we can like what we like without being dicks about it.
(note that most of the rajalagang hate is specifically in the kalagang tag. if you wanna talk about how much you love rajalagang, maybe don’t do it in the otp tag and then get surprised when people disagree with you.)
anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk, i guess i just wanted to say... you don’t have to force yourself to like something just because you’re told it’s something you should like or you’ll be a bad person. that’s all. <3
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bluefrackle · 6 years
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rajalagang just reeks of kala being bought. it reeks of "this guy is NICE so he deserves me," - it leaves Kala's character arc about bravery insignificant - it assumes that a hook up will cause a healthy relationship even when no one communicated (does anyone actually expect these 3 not to have a horrible fight?) - it ignores that Rajan worships Kala as an IDEA but does not actually KNOW her - it assumes Wolfgang would have no problem with jealousy or insecurity when we have seen that both him and Kala do - it encourages compromising oneself for someone like Rajan who is NICE but not right for the person. honestly I will always be heartbroken at how this relationship resolved for quick 3way jokes and the only ways it could have been written well would have been for Rajan to die in the fight (how did all these civilians make it out alive?!?!?!) or for Kala to actively choose Wolfgang.
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holden-norgorov · 5 years
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Hey, it’s February 22nd 2019 and I feel like making another extremely long Sense8-related rant reminding all of you that:
#1. Kala was never in love with Rajan.
The narrative of her storyline is entirely focused on that almost in a heavy-handed way, to the point that I really struggle to believe than anyone could think otherwise. There is just a huge amount of facts supporting this, spreading from the pilot itself to the last episode of Season 02. In 1x01, she confesses to Ganesha that the only reasons she is agreeing to marry Rajan are: society’s (misguided) opinion on him and, most importantly, her parents’ happiness. In 1x05, she feels like she is metaphorically drowning (she is seen panting heavily) and going to prison by entering this marriage, hence the connection with Sun giving away her dog to her teacher and Wolfgang being literally underwater. In 1x06, Wolfgang reveals that Kala was actually calling for him hoping that he would stop her wedding because she didn’t want to go through with it; later she tries to trick Rajan avoiding the truth by acting like she was “undeserving” of being married after what happened and hiding her actual feelings about it. In 1x07, she literally says that the wedding’s interruption was a blessing from her God. In 1x11, Wolfgang clarifies the way she feels about her upcoming wedding: as something “inevitable” and “fated” to happen because of how her world works (something he says he can never understand, which is true because of his European perspective on it). In 1x12, Wolfgang decides to close the door on Kala and pushes her to dive into this unwanted marriage because it would be the safer choice for her. She marries to Rajan against her will. In 2x01, we can see that Kala is actually trying her best to make this marriage work despite not loving Rajan, to the point that she builds a “fake image” of herself just to please him – remember the way she dressed up and put make up on during her birthday night? A clear sign that she was actually hiding her real self under that – and agrees to have sex (that is unwanted from her) with him out of her marital duty. At this point she believes that a future with Wolfgang is impossible because of his rejection, so she is willing to try to make a life with Rajan because she feels like it’s the only choice she has left not to disappoint her family and society – hence why she actually shuts down Rajan when he addresses her lack of feelings towards him. In the snowball scene with Wolfgang, though, she opens up with him and confesses that she feels like a bad person because she can’t bring herself to love Rajan (“we have to change… become better people”). In 2x04, she realizes that not only is she incapable of loving him, but also that she doesn’t even enjoy the fancy life in society that he can provide to her: this becomes evident in the gallery, where she realizes how out-of-place her real self is – remember the awkward head tilt before quickly putting herself together? – and it’s also confessed to Wolfgang right after; she tells him that what would make her truly happy is not what society expects from her but “something else” and that she is “only pretending to be a good person”, addressing again how she built a fake image for her husband and society to see and for her to hide behind. In 2x05, she confesses to her dad that what would make her truly happy would disappoint her family and hurt her husband. In 2x06, she lets out that she considers her marriage a duty (“every-day rules”) and that her feelings for Wolfgang are so powerful that whenever she is with him, everything else fades away and she “can’t be trusted with her (real) thoughts”; Wolfgang calls her marriage a pretense (“pretending isn’t a life”), tying with what he discovered in 2x04 about her fake persona. In 2x08, she talks with Will about her marriage in a very detached and unemotional way – and Kala is someone who always emotes freely and intensely – taking it as a duty or job to perform; he reads her emotions and clarifies that her problem is that she doesn’t love her husband. In 2x09, she expresses disgust and serious discomfort to the idea of having children with Rajan. In 2x10, she decides to put her own happiness above everyone else’s for the first time and agrees to follow her feelings (Wolfgang) and telling Rajan the truth. In 2x11, she confesses her love to Wolfgang and states that she wants a new life (Paris) just for the two of them, before genuinely and freely smiling for probably the first time in the whole show. All of these are facts and, as you can see, are a lot. How anyone can claim that she genuinely loves her husband is actually beyond my comprehension and indicates a serious misunderstanding of her whole storyline.
This is also extremely clear aside from the narrative perspective and focusing only on the character itself. Kala’s attitude and behavior with both Wolfgang and Rajan is completely different throughout all the show, which testifies how differently she considers both men and, most importantly, how oppressed she feels by her culture. She spends two entire seasons avoiding any kind of confrontation with Rajan because of cultural indoctrination and a deep fear caused by her submissive position in the marriage (with Rajan being the beholder of the cultural power and authority, as I will address later on). She never speaks up about what she actually thinks or feels to him until the infamous expired-drugs episode in 2x07 – which not-so-casually happens after the conclusion of her bravery awakening arc in mid-Season 02, a case of excellent character writing and follow-through. The oppression she feels from her culture and its morality prevents her from dealing face-to-face with letting down a wealthy, rich and socially rewarded man who decided she had to be his conquest (prize) – this is evident in many occasions, mainly in the 1x02 balcony scene, the 1x06 conversation about their wedding (where Kala displays a serious inability to engage in a honest conversation with Rajan because of cultural dynamics), and many moments in the Christmas Special. Rajan’s cultural and social dominance is pivotal in understanding why Kala gets fearful and hesitant whenever she is with him, almost making it look like she is a weak person. But the viewers know she really isn’t, because they manage to experience the Other Kala – the real Kala – that shows up every time she is not around Rajan. This version of Kala is firey, combative, courageous; she easily makes a bomb out of kitchen supplies to kill several people (1x12), she lets a restaurant table on fire out of pure anger (2x08) and causes a car to explode out of bright intelligence (2x11); she proves to have exactly zero hesitance in making last-minute blockers while the man she loves is being held hostage (2x11). This is the real Kala, and she is brave and resourceful and always comes out whenever she is not with Rajan. Why? Because she feels and has always felt psychologically pressured by her culture and in a position of cultural submission towards him. Kala’s real enemy – the real obstacle she had to overcome to reach happiness and embrace her real self (i.e. destroy the fake persona she had to play in her marriage) – was always her culture and the effect that it had on her. It’s also worth pointing out the relationship Kala has with her temple, which is the only place where she can be herself freely (before developing her bond with Wolfgang), and this is not-casually because it’s also the only place where she is unreachable to Rajan (whose family is not only anti-religious but also actively trying to shut down that very same place – a fitting metaphor for Rajan shutting down the real Kala in her daily life throughout all the show). And the temple ends up being exactly the place where she becomes reachable to Wolfgang (alongside with her bedroom and her bathroom, all intimate places which are forbidden to Rajan up to Season 01 but that are naturally accessible to Wolfgang). Kala actually engages in a deep relationship with him, opening up about herself and having plenty of honest conversations about the real her – her festival experience and relationship with science and religion (1x07), her actual feelings and fears (2x04, 2x06, 2x11), her opinion on his violent methods (2x10): deep topics that help establishing a trust-based bond with Wolfgang that is meant to contrast with the sincerity and depth that her relationship with Rajan lacks. This was a case of gorgeous and complex storytelling that completely got lost with the finale. At last, it’s also worth noting that Kala normally emotes freely and naturally, especially when with Wolfgang, but suddenly always appears distant and shut-down with Rajan, a clear sign that she feels very differently for the two of them.
#2. Kala and Rajan had a toxic relationship.
I seriously don’t understand how this came to be completely unnoticed by a huge side of the fandom, but there is almost everything about Kala’s relationship with Rajan that is toxic and unhealthy. They embody exactly what a marriage shouldn’t be. This is extremely clear since the very first moment, according to how their relationship starts. Rajan (her boss) spots her, decides he wants her and fills her (i.e. his employee’s) office with a huge number of flowers for everyone else to see, putting her in an extremely unfair position – she can’t turn him down because of many reasons at this point: 1) she could lose her job and have serious damage on her career, which she personally values a lot; 2) she knows her parents want her to get married, so she would let them down as well by rejecting him; 3) he has a too solid reputation and is regarded as a way too influent member of his society; 4) she would likely encounter public shame from her co-workers and society as a whole by turning down such a big gesture by such a kind man. This is also India, not Europe or America, and mentality plays a huge role in this case. She gets trapped in this situation from the very beginning. Then, in 1x02, we discover more details about their relationship: Rajan reveals he knows Kala “never ever looked at me, not once” and “can feel her hesitation”, but decided he didn’t care about this and that his selfish desire to have her was too important – “the only life I want to live in is one where we can be together”. He exploits his cultural dominance to get what he wants, something that he has basically by default because of being a wealthy man, hence the “my father thought me that fortune favors the bold”. He basically pushes Kala on with this wedding despite already knowing that she doesn’t feel for him what he feels for her and just being okay with the idea that she will grow accustomed to him, highlighting how her feelings actually don’t matter to him at all. This is also the first sign we get that he is not interested in knowing Kala as a person, but just in owning her as a possession to show off, because he doesn’t take her feelings and opinions into account. This happens again in 1x06 after the fainting episode in the first wedding ceremony, when he completely dismisses what Kala has to say about it as non-important by shutting her down and imposing his own view over hers (“Kala, Kala, slow down… for me I loved what happened […] it was a part of the story, I just hope it is not the end of our story”). He keeps pushing despite knowing she doesn’t feel comfortable with what happened. In 1x11, he confesses that at first he wanted her because she wasn’t a suitable choice for his father, which seriously puts an even worse light on Rajan as a person, since Kala became the target of a conquest caused just by an act of rebellion – this speaks about how little he actually values women in general, including Kala, and finally makes us understand why he doesn’t even care about Kala’s inner self (opinions, feelings, thoughts). This new discovery, combined with our knowledge that he knows from the beginning that Kala doesn’t feel for him, ends up establishing him as a manipulative man who keeps exploiting his cultural power to psychologically pressure her in entering the marriage and, after that, not leaving it. He is a slimy, disgusting person whose outwardly pleasant behavior hides his inner desire to get Kala as his personal prize for society to see. This will be evident in many other occasions to come as well. In the Christmas Special, for instance, he shows he doesn’t care about having even actual conversations with her, because he goes asking her mother about her virginity, disrespecting her and (again) displaying the condition of ownership that he feels he has on her: he doesn’t treat her as a person with agency, but as an object. It’s worth noting his reaction when he gets called out on this: at first, he instinctively laughs it off as something completely superfluous (i.e. proving his spontaneous reaction to be careless about Kala’s agency as a woman), but as soon as he realizes that this is making her angry, he suddenly gets worried about a possible break in their marital status and readily apologizes in a completely moronic and unbothered way (“Kala, I’ve been an ass, please just forgive me”). This highlights that he doesn’t apologize out of sincere understanding of what he did wrong, but rather out of the fear that this could anger her enough to walk away from their marriage – which is exactly the same dynamic that happens again in 2x07, after the expired-drugs talk. Things later in the episode get ever worse because he bribes her into sex by throwing her a giant party and buying her an expensive necklace, showing that he actually didn’t care at all about the conversation they had before and that, once again, Kala’s feelings on this matter were completely unimportant to him: he just cares about getting what he wants from her. This is an extremely unhealthy and toxic dynamic: Kala ends up engaging in sex unwanted from her because she feels she has to repay him for her birthday celebration and because she feels responsible for his dick incident. This is not consensual. Going on with 2x04, we see how Rajan acts with Kala in a public place in society, the art gallery: he pushes her from behind as if she is unable to walk by herself and as if he wants to show off what he has, he doesn’t even introduce her with her name (he just calls her “my beautiful wife” when introducing her to someone she doesn’t know, which is extremely disrespectful and dehumanizing). Ajay even makes quite a sexist comment that Rajan unapologetically laughs at while Kala is shown to be quite disturbed by. In 2x05, Kala tries to talk to Rajan about work, but he once again completely shuts her down and talks to her in a very patronizing way, as if she was a child who can’t understand things. In 2x07, the confrontation between the two on the expired drugs issue happens and we get to know that the only reason why Kala was given a promotion is because Rajan could profit from her work to engage in illegal activities without her knowing. Kala is obviously furious and he once again acts very poorly. The same dynamic from 2x01 returns, but this time in an even more disgusting way (“Kala, you are even more beautiful when you are upset”). Rajan’s spontaneous reaction is the same as it was in the Christmas Special: careless, unapologetic and blind to the serious damage of his behavior. He realizes once again that he pissed her off (and really badly this time, because she actually walked away from him), so what does he do later? He buys her flowers and acts as if suddenly he was aware of how wrong his business practices were up to this moment – with entire years without even being bothered by the minimum thought of it? Please – and basically tries to manipulate her once again into not leaving their marriage. These are not sincere apologies on his misbehavior (for which he should honestly go to prison). This is just the ultimate attempt to win her back by exploiting her good-hearted nature and awake her pity – which he actually succeeds at, because Kala’s final look at him is one of pity. Once again: man fucks up, buys things, gets rewarded with pity and forgiveness, and it all gets repeated. This is a toxic relationship, it’s basically the cycle of abuse (more so knowing that she doesn’t even love him). At last, in 2x11 she is finally ready to talk things through with him, and for the umpteenth time he shuts her down and makes it about him (1x06 much? This is how he has always related to her). This marriage was a complete disaster up to 2x11, with many unresolved issues and unhealthy dynamics. These spouses were strangers to each other: Rajan never cared about knowing Kala as a person because he never loved her, but fell in love with the idea of owning her and showing her off; Kala never cared about developing a serious bond with Rajan because she never loved him and always considered her marriage as a duty to oblige to for her parents’ satisfaction. Rajan manipulated Kala for the entire show and constantly lied to her during all Season 02, Kala hid things from him – including an affair – for the entire show as well. Their relationship had problems such as sexism, objectification, lack of trust, lack of intimacy, lack of conversation, dishonesty, power imbalance, and none of them were resolved or clarified (let alone even addressed in the finale). Rajan was a terrible husband to Kala because he is a despicable person; Kala was a terrible wife to Rajan as well because she didn’t love him.
#3. The ending:
Pretended that their relationship was always healthy and almost unproblematic.
Depicted Kala as the only one in the couple held responsible for their relationship issues (“and I thought I was the one with the big secrets”). Sexist writing.
Completely erased Rajan’s 23-episodes-widespread misbehavior as if it never occurred, turning him suddenly in the best husband ever (ironically the way he was always depicted by his society).
Assassinated Kala’s whole personality and especially her bravery awakening arc in Season 02 which was the core of her whole character.
Turned Kala’s internal conflict with her culture into a love indecision between two men out of nowhere.
Depicted her as happy and willing to stay in a toxic relationship with a man she never loved out of gratitude and because he proved to be a “good guy”, despite this being the very exact reason why she could never fall for him since the beginning. Inconsistent writing.
Sold us the hysterical idea that someone as selfish, possessive and disrespectful of women as Rajan would agree to share his wife (which he considers a possession) with somebody else.
Completely destroyed Wolfgang’s whole personality and role in Kala’s growth and storyline, but this is not meant to be a post about him.
Hinted us many times – especially in the last half-hour – about Kala giving even more importance to Rajan than Wolfgang, which is completely incoherent with everything we learned about these three characters in the previous 23 episodes (and in the rest of this episode as well), to the point that it looked like she eventually kept him around just to spice things up in the bedroom with her husband, who she never even wanted to be touched by before. Wild writing.
So, I guess Kalagang fans have, in fact, every right to be grossed out by this resolution and complain about it without being laughed at and dismissed with the “it’s just a ship” comments. Kalagang was not “just a ship” happening between two characters in the background of their character arcs, as many other ships are: it was at the core of their character arcs. This was not a love story, but a love storyline. It was character-defining. Fucking up that destroyed both their characters. I think this post highlights that ours are not shallow complaints. What happened in the finale was offensive and extremely serious and problematic. Stop saying we should be grateful for it.
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bossyknow-it-all · 6 years
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'#anti rajalagang' posts should be tagged '#pro kala dandekar's arc' instead
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i keep periodically remembering the sense8 finale and getting upset all over again at how they massacred Kala's storyline
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freisetzend · 6 years
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‘kala judged rajan too quickly and let her doubts and insecurities cloud her judgement; she couldn’t truly learn to love him until she let him in so he could know the real her’
this makes no sense because these doubts and insecurities about their relationship were literally just borne of the fact that Kala wasn’t in love with him.
there was never a scene where kala was like ‘nobody is gonna believe me about being a sensate ;(’ and was shown to be agonizing over this because that was never the truth she had to own up to. what WAS she shown agonizing over? the fact that she wasn’t in love with her husband and couldn’t stop thinking about wolfgang.
 kala has always seen rajan as a good man who respects her and who she holds in high regard. kala has no doubts about the fact that Rajan will provide + care for her. He says he loves her and trusts her multiple times across the seasons and she believes him. He proves it by his willingness to change his company policies. And what does Kala do after this conversation? She looks guilty, then has a convo with Riley THE NEXT DAY about what it’s like to be with Will in person because she can’t deny her feelings for Wolfgang anymore and wants to be with him.
tbh rajan is just ONE of the people kala needed to be honest with and she didn’t even accomplish that in that finale. it was her family she needed acceptance from, not rajan, who has ALWAYS been kind and accepting and willing to let her go. i mean fuck, right up to 2x11 he was like ‘i know the future of our marriage is uncertain’ lol because he knew she wasn’t really into him no matter how hard she tried to be.
kala lies to rajan even in the finale,talking about her indecision stemmed from being a sensate. SHE DIDN’T WANT TO MARRY HIM LONG BEFORE SHE BECAME A SENSATE! SHE NEVER TELLS HIM THIS! SHE NEVER TELLS HIM ABOUT BEING IN LOVE WITH WOLFGANG EITHER. Rajan figures it out because he’s not an idiot (and accepts it apparently) but if Kala had actually told Rajan, she would have kissed Wolfgang IRL instead of visiting him and then giving him a HUG in person.
it’s just bad writing all around. i agree that we can all have different interpretations re: these characters but this is all on-screen....in the text. 
i realize now that this is why kala’s family isn’t even IN the finale lol. 
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ohneets · 6 years
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for those with opinions of any kind about Kala/Wolfgang/Rajan...
Here’s a thought - Lana ended the 2hr special on a purposefully vague/astounding/surprising “resolution” for Kala/Wolfgang/Rajan because she wanted fans both excited for and upset at the status of their stories so that they would feel eager to see more.
Maybe Lana didn’t want to resolve everything so clearly because she wanted us to keep up the drive to fight to see more of where this show is intended to continue! 
If everything was resolved and cleanly answered (which it isn’t) no one would want to keep fighting for more of this beautiful show.
But Sense8 is not over! Lana believes that anything is possible! She wants us to keep fighting for these beautiful characters and this incredible show. Now is a time to band together rather than be divided by our differences of opinion. 
She literally wrote that line into the 2hr special: 
For all the differences between us, and all the forces that try to divide us, they will never exceed the power of love to unite us. 
Let’s fight for this show together! We all want to see it continue! We’ve done it once before! We can do it again! Sense8 Is Not Over!
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I can't believe there's people going in the rajalagang tag to rant about how mad they are their ship happened but not in the way they wanted
Like couldn't they put an "anti" before the ship so it won't appears in the tag?
I'm sorry they're bitter and can't realize how much more meaningful and important it is to show a polyamory relationship over a love triangle
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