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voxpraxis · 11 months
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lately i've been... idk if you can really call it "debating" but i've been interacting with some muslims in the comments of an instagram reel in which a young girl was speaking to a young boy (i want to emphasize that they are both children) and telling him that she wasn't allowed to speak to boys until she was married, because her parents and her religion said so. the boy was sad but replied with something like "oh, alright" and the caption & comments were all talking about how "sweet" the situation was. i commented that i didn't think it was sweet, and actually that's a horrible thing to put in a child's mind. the post never directly mentioned islam and neither did i, but everyone who's been replying to me is proselytizing islam, so. anyway, these are the points that have been thrown at me so far:
it's not wrong because both genders are forced apart from each other
in response to me saying it still enforces an extreme divide between genders and encourages them to see each other as opposites rather than equals: the separation is necessary to prevent rape
there is no rape in islam because of the separation between men and women, rape only occurs in western society because men and women are not separated (...because apparently we cannot expect men to not rape women unless they're physically kept away from them at all times)
rape does not happen between family members, it's just not a real thing, ever (incest doesn't exist?)
if you're interested in a girl you should marry her immediately, because dating leads to cheating
men and women cannot be just friends because "islam and science and psychology says so." one guy said it's because "women can't talk about cars and sports"
(i also got called a simp for saying i have female friends. can't make this shit up)
in response to me pointing out that what the girl is saying implies that she won't have any say in who her husband is: arranged marriages are better because they always work out and unlike western marriages, they never end in divorce! (i'll give you one guess why that is.)
similarly, single parent families and suicide are solely western problems
men and women are NOT equal
i need to shut up and respect it because that's their religion
islam cannot be questioned because islam says islam is true
and that's not including all the personal insults and threats i've received, in just a few days.
i will say this is one of the least challenging "debates" i've ever had, in the sense that almost no point brought against me has any logical foundation and is easily refutable. but it's one of the most frustrating because the problem is that they won't hear me at all, because islam teaches its followers to never consider anything else. it teaches them to accept exactly what they are spoon-fed as the ultimate truth. and this is by no means a problem exclusive to islam, but islam does this kind of control better than any other religion i know. people raised into islam are not taught to think in any logical terms - in fact, they're deliberately taught to avoid thinking logically. logical fallacies are the rule. so not only can they barely form a coherent argument in favour of their beliefs, but they have absolutely no clue how illogical they sound sometimes. when i point out a lapse in logic in something they've said, the response i get is "no, that's true because islam says it's true." no other explanation required. at least, i've sometimes heard people of other religions attempt to use logic or science to prove their beliefs, but with the muslims in these comments, those are unnecessary things to be absolutely avoided - it's like they don't even understand why i'd bother to use them. you can't use logic to get through to them because they've been taught to avoid logic and cling to the mantra of islam-is-true-because-islam-says-so.
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frightnightindustries · 7 months
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Hey. LGBT+ Christian here. Don't do this. All of this came from left leaning spaces.
(TW for a lot of bigotry under the cut)
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Do you know how shitty this feels? Honestly, if you do this, fuck you.
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resistancemarxistblog · 16 hours
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During the Spanish revolution and the ensuing civil war, Spanish workers and peasants engaged in anti-clerical violence against the Church that spent centuries raping, molesting, murdering, beating, abusing, and oppressing them.
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“I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful.”
-- Christopher Hitchens
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enderagenda · 6 months
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reminder that anti-theism is not cool or edgy or progressive. being against religion in its entirety is not a good thing. you're allowed to be critical of religions, you're allowed to not like religions, you're obviously allowed to be atheist, but you CANNOT claim that religion as a whole is evil. religion is extremely human and natural, it's been around as long as humans have. I stand by Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, and countless others.
wanting to rid society of religion is genocide. anti-theism is racist, Indigenous discrimination, antisemitic, islamophobic, sinophobic, colonialist, and it blatantly goes against human rights. everyone have the right to think freely and subscribe to whichever beliefs they like, religious or not.
on this blog we support religious people, especially religious queers. I stand with you, and you are welcome in this community 💜
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shroobles · 5 months
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Christmas is a stolen pagan holiday anyways.
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missbaphomet · 1 year
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I cannot stand beside any belief or organization that limits human rights and freedoms, or demands adherence to harmful practices, be they financial, medical, or otherwise.
It's not about faith. It's about power. It's about control. It's about money. They don't give a fuck about you or your family, they only care of you can provide a dollar amount and can bring in others that can as well. It's all about the bottom line, and making it go up.
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raspberryfem · 21 days
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not to continue to engage in the discourse but tbh the anti-atheist sentiment i hate most is that we don't care abt nature and don't have a sense of 'wonder' or whatever. i'm chock full of wonder! in fact, my lack of belief in god (/goddess/whatever spiritual way you'd put it) makes me feel MORE wonder! nobody designed our universe! the stars, the oceans, the summer rainstorms, the tiny leaf chameleons, the kitty cats, the volcanoes on mars or the great red spot of jupiter! it all happened by chance, and we are SO lucky to live in this very unlikely world where ALL of these things exist!! knowing that the whole universe could have developed and evolved differently if things were even the slightest bit different makes me so thankful for the wonders all around us!! life without intelligent design is beautiful and wondrous!!!!!!
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hindahoney · 2 years
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atheists stop tagging their posts about hating all religions under #judaism when they really mean they hate Christianity challenge 2022
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devilshandler999 · 1 year
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The concept of hell is both immoral & abhorrent. You live a good life, as honest & as kind as you can manage but get tortured for eternity in the afterlife because you didn't subscribe to a certain creed.
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voxpraxis · 11 months
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[video of two muslim women in full-coverage outfits]
commenter 1: sister your dress needs to be longer, your feet should be covered
commenter 2: sister your dress is too long, it is dragging on the floor
commenter 3: sisters neither of your outfits are proper hijab
commenter 4: sisters being on social media is immodest and distracting
verdict: you can't win
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God isn't real. Sorry.
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gangviolets · 2 years
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vampiretheology · 2 years
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On the Nature of God
TL;DR: People read the made in God's image thing to mean humanity is good. The far more reasonable interpretation is that God isn't.
Gen 1:26 - Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
This differentiation of image and likeness conveys the idea that mankind is made deliberately similar to God, not just in physical body, but in action and function (and yes, the difference exists in the Hebrew as well). Where God claims dominion over the world, mankind claims dominion over all animal life. In so paralleling, scripture informs us that we can get a glimpse of the nature of God simply by looking at ourselves.
Mankind has great capacity for many things, but not all are good. Sure, we may have great capacity for love, but if God were only love we certainly couldn't be called his likeness. We have spectacular capacity for becoming overly controlling, manipulative, jealous, abusive, and deceptive. Many of which are traits we see God openly exhibit in scripture.
I find it odd how little capacity those who claim to follow the Bible have when it comes to accepting that their god might not always be truthful with them. He might not always have their best interest at heart. Even from the first chapter of the first book we see the subtle warning that all the evil man might do, God might just do as well. And one of those evils, in fact arguably the first one man displays, is deception.
My best and only response to a biblical literalist is simply this: "Yes, but he could very well have been lying." Do I know that he was - no, but neither can you be certain he wasn't. If the question itself is God's honesty, no scriptural refutation is possible, only blind faith. I do not doubt that your god exists - I doubt that he is good, that he is truthful, and that he is alone. He could have literally said everything you quote - but who's to say he's being honest? You've experienced his voice, even his miracles - great, I never refuted his existence, I never doubted his ability to grant miracles, but I also have no reason that his motives are noble, or even to believe he is alone in the capacity to grant miracles. The only evidence is that of his own hollow words, and I do not accept them.
You wish to dedicate your life and your soul to him - more power to you, I certainly won't get in the way. Just don't try to force me along for the ride.
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atheist-forever · 1 year
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Priests, nuns and the pope are all people of low morals.
Catholics in general are people of low morals.
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