#anyway I'm gonna be mostly sticking with my original outline for this story but I assure you I hate myself for it

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Obviously the majority of the blue stans are so disturbingly EXTRA and like to view him as Diet Sunshine and honestly really need to chill the FRICK out, but I'm kind of curious..... If the blue himself was given more character traits than a slightly moist towlette, do you think you could like him? Rather, if the fanatics weren'tpart of the equation, what would it take for you to like him as a character?

So, that was initially the start of the birthday discourse.

When CH aired the first time, I went into it wanting to like him and ship the blue ship. Honest, I did. I don't advertise it much lately cause I've been working on a lot of love square stuff, but I was a huge rare pair shipper at the time. I think that was the first year I hosted rare pair month (in March) and I had a ton of rare pair stuff going (dig back on my ao3 you'll find them). So I wasn't bothered by the possibility of the blue ship "disrupting" the square or whatever cause like I literally ship shit like Alyanette and Sabrinadrien.

Anyway, I think part of the problem initially was that certain BNFs hyped him up before his episode and said he was cute and charming and had depth outside of just being a love rival, so I was like okay, okay, cool. But then when CH aired and we got...that I just wasn't impressed, but I was open to seeing what they did later on with him. And my friend Kaylee had made a post basically outlining how she felt (which was basically the same way I did for the same reasons) about it and I reblogged it cause I was like, yeah, I agree.

Which you have to understand the fandom climate at the time. There was a big surge in people sticking up for Marinette because a lot of people were shitting on her and comparing her to Chloe, so one blogger (possibly more but one in particular) made a post basically saying that anyone who hated the blue boy or that ship was slut shaming Marinette? Because "she's allowed to have other options besides Adrien god forbid" basically which, at least for Kaylee and I, was not even our issue with it at all? Which that post wasn't exclusively directed at either of us, it was just general cause I'm sure OP saw something that set them off, but anyway, that's where that part of the original ask that sparked the birthday discourse came from.

But I think for both Kaylee and I we were both open to the possibility of him getting more development in the future, we just weren't wowed by what we got initially, but were both like ehh we'll see what happens, and then the birthday anon struck acting like we had sworn him off forever (at this point CH was still the only episode we had of him) and so because of that discourse I was like um, I was indifferent to him, but now fuck him? And Kaylee was mortified because it was her post that started it so then she was like fuck yall and him for attacking someone on their birthday what the fuck? And then just over time his stans have just been like that, so we are both like ya know, fuck all of this in particular.

I think he has been ruined for me as far as I'm concerned, and I don't think I will ever truly like him or that ship because what's canon is canon and tbh he hasn't gotten much better or deep since his debut so even the "wait and see" people come off looking a little foolish because now we have waited a season and a half (which was as long as Adrien had been around in CH) and he is still the same as he was in his debut. So our overall canon opinion of him hasn't changed, but our aggravation with his stans has certainly grown since then.

That being said, I did/do have plans to write the blue ship in a better way in a fic I have. The very first fic I wrote for this fandom when I came in right when s1 ended was basically a "this is how I'd continue the story" type deal and I worked on it for a while then decided I didn't like some stuff about it and then s2 started airing and introduced new characters and so I've just been in a constant state of revision with it, but I do have super cute plans for them in it which mostly consist of: giving him his own character outside of Marinette, developing their affection more gradually, giving the poor boy a personality outside guitar, and having their interactions not focus on how sad she is about Adrien. Which like his stans don't deserve my fluff, but for the purposes of that fic I'll do it eventually. I don't think I'm gonna include the blue ship in dogrien at all. Idk haven't decided. Might write him out entirely or just leave him as Juleka's older bro who is mentioned but never really seen. Haven't gotten that far in my plans yet though.

So yeah, basically if I could undo the damage and have him written in a way that would have made me like him from the beginning, that would be the way. Decouple him from LS drama, make him his own character with motives outside of winning the protagonists affections. (Does he want a career in music or does he just play in his little sisters band? Does he have any real thoughts besides strum strum Marinette?)

Tldr: I wasn't opposed to him at the start but stans ruined him for me overtime and that can't really be fixed.

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