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wickymicky · 5 years

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Kpop linguistics is literally the exact content I love to see around here as someone also finding herself at this weird interest intersection lol lowkey this kind of stuff is one of the reasons you're one of my favourite blogs around here

WOAH!!!!! aAAAAAA! thank you!!

im gonna put a Read More here bc it got too long and rambly

i cant help it lmao, i’m a linguist and i went to college for linguistics. that’s just how my brain works, it’s like an adhd hyperfocus special interest type thing, idrk what to call it, but i’ve been learning everything i can about language (in particular phonology and morphology) for like a decade. i dont talk about it much but i spend a huuuuuuge amount of time working on and thinking about my conlang (constructed language) that i’ve had since high school. it’s not very good, but it’s sort of a sandbox where i can fool around with linguistics stuff lol. i wanted to write a paper about the use of conlangs as tools for linguists to use for better understanding certain concepts that they have trouble with, but im not in college at the moment and idk if i will be again anytime soon... anyway yeah like this is my shit lol.

oh and like thats whats super cool about getting into kpop! its a whole lot of media in a language i didnt have much exposure to beforehand. i took latin in high school and ancient greek in college, and then i did like hungarian and vietnamese duolingo for a while lol, but there’s not a ton of easily accessible media in those languages, and certainly not much with subtitles, and definitely not anything for latin and ancient greek haha. like i wish there was something like anime for every language, just a huge wealth of shows in various animated styles in a language i dont speak, but with subtitles so i can recognize that when they say a certain word multiple times and i pick up on it, and every time they do the word “dream” is in the subtitles, i can piece together that that word probably means dream.

so like i have a suuuuper poor understanding of japanese grammar and shit, but i think fairly good pronunciation and a long list of vocab words ive picked up on because thats what my brain gravitates towards. like when i’d hear something i thought was interesting, i’d spend hours looking it up too. like how high vowels (“i” and “u”) often become voiceless between two voiceless consonants in japanese, which is why “sasuke” is pronounced seemingly like “saske”. but if it was an o instead of a u, it’d probably be sasoke not saske, cause its only the high vowels that drop out. also things like... why do certain words that start with a voiceless consonant become voiced in some compound words, but not others? “kana” becomes “gana” in hiragana, but stays “kana” in katakana. why? well, apparently that’s a thing and there’s a name for that. i forget it at the moment lmao, but i know that it happens. and so how come h- becomes b- in that situation? well it’s because it was originally p-, and then it weakened to a sort of f-like sound, and then further into h-, except for “pu” which stayed on the middle stage as “fu” even in modern japanese. all instances of “p” in modern japanese are either because the p was doubled (geminated), or they’re loanwords. so like yeah haha, it’s not that i “picked up japanese from watching anime”, it’s that watching anime and hearing certain things made me curious and i spent a lot of time looking into that. not learning the language tho lol... i like learning ABOUT the language, but im not very good at actually learning the language.

and thats what ive been doing with korean too! it’s not a language i had much experience with, so at first i couldnt make out any words at all in kpop songs. it was hard to tell where one word ended and where the next began. and that was only like two or three months ago lol... i’m still really new. i started noticing certain words that came up a lot. “piryohae”, “saranghae”, “bogosipeo”, “nareul”, “eolgul”, “joahae”, “jigeum”, “shigan”, “sungan”, “eopseo”, “bimil”, “maeum”, god the list goes on and on. it’s just vocab, but for the most part i learned to recognize those words before i knew what they meant lol, cause i dont look at lyrics much. so i’d look them up and go “ohhhhhhh yeah okay i can see why that word would be in those places in those songs” or whatever. and like, you know, learning more about hangeul teaches me more about the phonology of the language (which is my SHIT). and like i could try to write about how the unaspirated and aspirated initial consonants are often pronounced the same by the younger generation of speakers, but the unaspirated one adds something of a low tone to the following vowel, or i could try to write about how the double-consonants (jj, pp, tt, kk, ss) came often from initial sequences of sp- st- sk- etc, or how an ongoing sound change that you’ve probably noticed is that initial m- and n- are being pronounced closer to b- and d-, and how ae and e have completely merged, and how long vowels arent pronounced by younger speakers anymore, etc lol. i could write about how korean used to have a strong system of vowel harmony but centuries of sound change and loanwords from chinese that broke the vowel harmony rules have eroded it significantly, but it still plays a role in a handful of grammatical conjugations. i’ve been like cracking out, for lack of a better term, on learning about the history of the language and the inner workings of it, and ive spent some time attempting to learn the language too, though not that much lol. my brain is much better at collecting facts and having a deep understanding how Language works than it is at understanding how to speak a particular language lol. i cant really speak a word of arabic but i know all about triconsonantal roots and emphatic consonants and 3-vowel systems and differences between the various dialects of arabic lol

blah anyway lol

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elizabethrobertajones · 6 years

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I'm wondering about 13x07's "I would like to see you too, the sooner, the better" bc Lucifer knows Cas is talking to Dean, and Cas doesn't want to make Lucifer suspicious, so he talks to Dean as Lucifer would expect him to normally talk to Dean and Lucifer's been inside Cas' head so, like everyone fucking else, has to assume Cas and Dean are banging? So is this confirmation Cas knows what everybody thinks and uses it to trick Lucifer? Ideas?

Ha! I have the same theory. Also, vague PSA because

elizabethrobertajonesomg lol there was a gifset on my dashI can’t tell if it was meant to be crack or notor just someone mishearingwhere it was just the phone scene but Cas says “I would love to meet you” not “i would like to see you”it actually, genuinely got me for a momentI was like “how did I miss Cas saying LOVE?!”I had to go rewatch immediately :P

mittensmorgulHAHAHAHA

But yeah… Sorry, I already pretty much went over this in my notes as well and I’m giving low low brain energy to this episode so:

Omg

Cas like “I would *like* to see you too” is he literally pretending he and Dean were canoodling on the phone as a cover?

I hate everything

Anyway need/want blah blah I have been over that a lot lately :P Cas is using his DESIRE to see Dean to get help, by Lucifer saying he NEEDS Cas.

“Smooth was never your strong suit” oh my god Lucifer also thought Cas was pretending to be flirty too what is going on

why has this episode confirmed all the headcanons about Cas being the most shittiest phone sex guy ever

of all the things.

why.

The most ridiculous thing is Cas gets away with it. And because the episode never followed up on this - that is, has the Winchesters catch up with Cas so Lucifer can find out it was a ruse - it pretty much is what it is.

(PS: uh so they were actively tracking Cas’s phone and Cas is gone and they’re worried? Would Sam not… immediately… check his app before they even call Cas? And it’s like… Hey that sure looks like Cas is all of a sudden chilling in Crowley’s old den for some reason.

Dean’s like

nah, he’s going on one of those home makeover programs with it now Crowley’s dead

Sam’s like

what

Dean’s like

yeah weird story it was in Crowley’s will and I guess Cas actually does miss that fucker, who knew.)

Okay another PPS because I can’t leave it on that, I just wanna make it clear this episode confirmed the Longing Retcon too and I realised that in slow mo to Mittens as well, and now you don’t even need to click on my watching notes :P

elizabethrobertajonestee hee Cas standing by the gents to take a call from Deanwaithang on…I’m not even being jokey I literally just had that moment in the chat with you :P*rewinds*Longing retcon ConfirmedOh dear that is hilariousI don’t know if that’s the moment you wanted me to see or not but I’m delighted :P

elizabethrobertajonesCas was standing away from Lucifer ready to take Dean’s phone call and had to have walked off up to a minute before he called, but most likely in that time when Dean was like UGH I need to talk to Cas and hear the one sane voice in this episodeand Cas was like… Brb I… have to use… the ‘Gents’and got up and wandered off to take the calleat it, 12x10 and that “where’s my phone” momentI mean Buckleming introduced it to fill a plotholeso why should they not use it to cover more plotholes at their leisure

… did Speight know? I mean he coulda been like what the heckeroo, and added Cas getting the call and legging it from the table.

The only other option I can think of is Cas decided he may as well just get up to “go pee” because Lucifer is so annoying that pretending he needs to go to the loo buys him 5 minutes to let his migraine subside.

….

PPPS: WAIT actually I know it was a few hours ago but this isn’t even the most baffling random thing because at least the longing retcon can explain this one perfectly but this from the start of the episode??

Dean also came from the kitchen with coffees so why is Cas coming from the back of the Bunker… I’m gonna have to assume he was until just now lounging around in Dean’s bed and Dean was like I better go get coffee and help Sam and Cas was like yeah but thanks for the 'sorry your son ran away’ sex i feel a lot better and Dean was like no problem babe, and probably gave Cas one of those ridiculous shoulder nudges in the most no homo way ever before he got up to find where they threw his underwear an hour earlier, and Cas just kinda chilled while Dean was getting the coffee so as not to be suspicious by piling in on Sam after taking the exact same length break from the search but then they fucked it up and still managed to enter the scene within 30 seconds of each other.

Yeah, that’s probably it.

Okay, that’s it, that’s everything that happened in this episode, we can just go to the next one now :P

#Asks #13x07 #season 13 spoilers #destiel #ow

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