#anyways i wont be engaging in civil war discourse

[lesbiradshaw]

Steve was right in cw. The accords were ready to violate the basic human rights of super people. Just like how they violated the human rights of Sam and the others by locking them up without any trial. If you look up the Accords online and its contents you can tell they’re really fucked up.

yup ... one of my main problems with the accords was the fact that they specifically targeted enhanced people like steve, wanda, peter, bucky, bruce, etc whose “weaponry” and aspects the accords labeled as dangerous were a literal PART of them. tony and rhodey can take off their suits. nat can set her little shocky sticks down. they can separate themselves from what would have been controlled by the accords even if it would have also been annoying that they had to give their stuff up, but the enhanced people don’t have that ability at all. they’d be giving their autonomy up. their BODIES. steve, bucky, and wanda have already been subjected to experimentation by “official” groups before so why the fuck would anyone who is an enhanced human want to run the risk of being controlled by it? begging people who don’t get the issue with that to watch an x men movie or something. enhanced people and mutants aren’t far off from each other.

#funny how the enhanced people who were informed about the accords are on steves side #tchalla doesnt count because he didnt care about the accords he was only after bucky #and vision is a robot. so idgaf about how HE feels about human rights. #this isnt even a team iron man vs team cap point it’s literally just a Problem that should have been perfectly clear #even to those that signed #like no matter how you feel about tonys reasons to intern wanda at the compound #ofc an enhanced person like steve is gonna see an unenhanced individual locking her up because of her powers as a red flag #like that literally could have been him and it HAS been bucky before #also the way wanda was treated on the raft compared to the other prisoners ??? monstrous. they had her on a diff level in a straight jacket #tony didnt have control over that specifically but how did that not make the problem with the accords clear to him #steve has been attacked for being enhanced before and put into fisticuffs and taken down w stun batons on everu side #he knows how this goes #anyways i wont be engaging in civil war discourse #i promise this time!

[lesbiradshaw]

please marvel literally made a whole character to show what the parallel opposite of steve rogers would be like if they had the serum (power hungry, control freak, irrational etc) and literally showed exactly WHY steve rogers was a good man and why the shield didn't make him who he is and why the serum worked for him. like they literally made a character who is the complete antithesis to steve's character and showed what would happen if someone who was motivated by their own selfishness instead of their selflessness was cap and why that would be a bad idea. and people are still like,,,,, hmmmmmmm no is still think he is *all those things* bc... something about me not being able to engage with media critically. and i am tired

RIGHTTTTT like red skull and john walker both show what steve could have been if he wasn’t the good man erskine told him to remain. i hate to quote zemo but like he told bucky when bucky said the serum never corrupted steve ... “there never has been another steve rogers”. maybe if people knew how to not bank on the last ten seconds of endgame or would quit trying to insist steve was completely in the wrong during civil war aka the movie that was meant to help expose that he was capable of still having flaws ... the mcu doesn’t even require people to think THAT hard to get the point but i guess the problem is the mcu forgets the point of their own characters half the time anyways 😭.

#i still dont think steve was wrong in civil war but whatever! #the whole ‘steve is selfish’ thing never tracks because he wasnt even saving bucky just for himseld #he was saving bucky because he didnt want bucky to DIE and because he genuinely didnt like the accords 😭 #anyways i wont be engaging in civil war discourse #but it really annoys me how people use characters flaws to contaminate the entire character #ok so steve is occasionally reckless and a little headstrong #so we’re gonna pretend bucky isnt occasionally self centered and unreasonable? #are we gonna pretend tony stark’s entire canon personality doesnt exist? #are we pretending everyone is perfect but steve?