It’s Okay To Say Gay, Apex
[this is a repost of something i made on reddit so some of the comments in this post will be like directly aimed at reddit so sorry if any of this reads as weird because of that LOL]
it’s pride month, and there’s no better time other than pride month to make a post about the lore and rep of LGBT+ characters in apex. also this post was partially inspired by the comments under respawn’s recent ‘Trans Rights’ post. more on that later.
this post is a critique, so i won’t be saying many positive things in it, but i do want to get it out of the way now that respawn is one of the better AAA games when it comes to handling LGBT+ rep, and the fact that we even have this much representation at all is great. astounding. but it also falls drastically short, and i think it is something important to discuss. and yes, this does have shit to do with lore, i can hear some of you typing--because not every identity is treated equally in lore.
so let’s get to it.
what partially inspired me to make this post about mlm specifically when i originally planned on doing a post about *all* the LGBT rep in apex is the simple fact that scrolling under respawn’s recent post, half the comments are about fuse and seer. (the other half are asking where bangalore is lol).
“wait, fuse is gay?”
“fuse and seer are gay????”
“i didn’t know seer was gay? since when?”
i also asked for lgbt+ people’s opinion on how the rep is overall in four different places, and while other things were complained about, the thing complained about the most was the fact that the mlm in apex aren’t allowed to...well, love men.
now, to ELABORATE:
YES, gibraltar has nik. YES, they have kissed in lore. gibraltar has mentioned nik in lore. nik was featured in-game in the season 7 comics. but let’s compare that to apex’s wlw rep.
i don’t really know how to say this, but valk is just. So Obviously a lesbian. she constantly talks about stealing your girl, how much she loves women, she’s been flirting with loba since release, loading screens mention that she hits on girls and has an ex-girlfriend. valk is so obviously a lesbian that it’s actually kind of impressive respawn pulled it off. i cannot imagine that making a character like this ten, hell even *five* years ago--look at how tracer’s identity is treated by overwatch--would have been easy or even possible.
loba also very clearly likes women. she flirts with valk, she has a voiceline referencing being bisexual, she spends much of season 5 lore materials openly flirting with cheryl amacci and yoko from hammond in order to get what she wants, she talks frequently in season 9 about being bangalore’s knight in shining armor, how she’s a beautiful woman, they have a date...she buys her flowers, and then gets upset when bangalore says they’re just friends...
and these two flirt. SO. GODDAMN. MUCH. every match they’re paired together. you can’t play a match with those two without hearing some innuendo about how they’re going to ‘’get cozy’’ after the game. it’s so obvious and also kind of uncomfortably sexual to the point that my brother, who knows Zero about lore, begged me to never pick loba again while he plays valk because it drives him nuts having my character flirt with his like that.
this isn’t shaming apex or its characters for its obvious and upfront sapphic romance. even if the love triangle is so fucking tiring at times, and makes you wish that they would just TALK TO EACH OTHER, the fact that valk and loba can be like this in a game like apex is honestly kind of a triumph in terms of representation.
makes ya wish that the men got the same treatment.
gibraltar’s bio makes mention of a boyfriend, and he has a location-specific voiceline (one of the hardest to trigger) about kissing his boyfriend at the thunderdome. until season 7 with the in-game comics, it would be very hard for someone who just plays the game to know that gibraltar is gay. and even then, nik and gibraltar are so safe it almost hurts.
look, i’m not saying they should’ve fucked or whatever in the comic, but i wanted to bring this up to highlight a thread that former writer tom casiello made in response to Nikbraltar kissing in a season 9 comic--about how he wanted the Nikbraltar kiss to show pure, gay love. wholesome love. safe for the kids. innocent love.
and yes, that’s so important, especially after years of homophobic rhetoric that gay people are Sex Fiends. but then you have to wonder: why must Nik and Gibraltar be wholesome, pure, and innocent, when valk and loba, in that very same season, were each talking about how Much they get babes?
to tom casiello’s credit, he does say that gibraltar’s sexuality had been ignored for nine seasons. and you know, gibraltar isn’t really the type of dude to talk about how much he gets guys, ya know? so sure. that’s fine. i don’t need gibraltar to tell me how many twinks he attracts at a gay bar. leave that to a character with a more flirty personality.
enter: fuse and seer.
fuse and seer have both been confirmed to be pansexual on twitter dot com.
that’s it.
end: fuse and seer.
okay jokes aside, fuse and seer. fuse’s bio mentions that he’s a man’s man. he, uh....uhhhh....he slaps caustic’s ass! that counts, right? i mean, sure, it was played for a joke, but that should count. cool! those are all our hints that fuse likes men.
seer, he...um...
Seer Has Zero, Absolutely Zero, In-Game Or In-Bio Hints That He Is Attracted To Men.
starting with fuse first: fuse’s bio is so vague that people had to ask if he liked men. some people were convinced that ‘man’s man’ just meant he was a dude-bro or a super macho guy. even now some still interpret that line that way, and you have to pull up tweets from a developer at respawn to even know that fuse likes men. now, to be fair, fuse doesn’t really have any flirty lines with women, so it’s not really fair to complain that he doesn’t flirt with men, right? and besides, he seems taken with bloodhound, so why have him flirt with guys and gals at all?
seer is where we have a problem.
seer openly flirts with loba and lifeline, and maybe even rampart, too, if you choose to look at their interactions that way. he is very open with himself and others, and aside from the theory that he and octane are ex-boyfriends--which is just that, a theory--there is zero hint that seer is attracted to men. he flirts with no men, his bio makes no mention of it, and he hasn’t even received a single lick of lore for me to complain that his lore doesn’t show that he likes men, either, but all the same.
seer is FLIRTY. seer flirts with women. so why can’t he flirt with men?
it’s hard to tell that the mlm of apex are mlm. even with all the excuses in the world, that some of them aren’t the flirty types or relationship-oriented, when a mlm who IS flirty is added to the cast they still don’t have him flirt with men. the mlm of apex are so sanitized that when you post a pride picture including all LGBT+ legends, half the comments don’t know that 2 of our 3 confirmed mlm even like men.
now let’s talk about bangalore and mirage.
bangalore is much more subtle than loba and valk--in fact, some people are quite convinced she’s straight based off what she said about loba, but there are still hints to her attraction to women. she lets slip a mention of ‘her’, hinting to wraith in season 9 that she has feelings for loba. she’s upset when loba starts dating valk. her chronicles voice-act a bit from the overtime comics where she and loba agree to a date. she’s one of three key characters locked in a sapphic love triangle--to the point that the other half of the comments under that post are asking where bangalore is amongst the LGBT+ legends.
bangalore’s sexuality, while unconfirmed, still shows her attraction to women.
fun fact: did you know that the lore about mirage getting high and fucking a pumpkin by mistake and being super embarrassing for him was actually originally about mirage getting high and fucking a man by mistake and being super embarrassing?!
did you know that in a tweet where it’s stated that wattson and wraith have canonically fallen in love in several different universes, it’s also stated that about a dozen universes ‘involve’ crypto and mirage--but they also all involve a pumpkin?
mirage’s sexuality line was immediately turned into the butt of a long-tired pumpkin-fucking joke, with zero hints before or since that he is actually maybe interested in men, and the pumpkin thing actually ended up having originally been a joke about how embarrassing it is to accidentally be gay--and this all culminates in two different (albeit former) devs saying that mirage is a straight man.
and this is the same mirage who has talked about his ex, flirted with women, and mentioned how into girls he is. his mom even mentions it, too.
listen, i’m not saying i want him to be bi or gay. the opposite, in fact. but mirage’s sexuality and the potential of him being attracted to men is treated like a joke, and it turns out that there’s never been anything to grasp at all.
the wlw of apex are allowed to be just that: women who love women. valkyrie, unapologetically, loves girls. loba seems to have a preference for women. bangalore has feelings for loba. they’re stuck in this stupid love triangle that’s in your face and obnoxious and uncomfortable but they are so undeniably gay that it makes looking at apex’s mlm actually kind of sad.
gibraltar and his boyfriend were relegated to twitter comics after season 7, where their most explicit references to romance--their kiss--occured, out of game, and neither of them have done anything in lore since. fuse and seer are confined to twitter mentions only, even when it would make complete sense for seer to look at, idk, crypto or somebody and say “you are so handsome and also fucked up”.
i’m not mad that the wlw of apex have such strong rep. i’m just sad that the mlm of apex are hidden away, tucked into the hardest places to find lore, and even when their attraction to men is in-game, it’s so safe and sanitized that you could almost trick yourself into believing they’re not really gay, they’re just really good friends--or maybe their attraction to men is the punchline of a joke.
i’m not here to discuss why this happens--homophobia, the fetishization of sapphic women for the male audience--i’m just here to discuss that it *does* happen, and i hope that seer gets a super cool boyfriend one day.
[plz dont use the q word in notes/tags of this post i will be blocking u if u do not respect my wishes thanks]
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