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corelliaxdreaming · 1 year
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I have no intent of playing Fate of the Empress, but the way they openly advertise the fact that you can be straight, gay - or play without romance at all makes me so freaking happy.
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amalgamezz · 4 months
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things that allos do that make aspecs accuse them of being aphobic:
mocking their labels and vocab
invalidating their existence
trivializing their experience
excluding them from the queer community
comparing them to paedophiles and MAP groups
comparing them to their oppressors
things that aspecs do that make allos accuse them of being homophobic/queerphobic:
existing
talking about their personal experience and headcanons
expressing their wish to be included in the queer community
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codthefishgod · 18 days
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To all the people who think aspec people aren't LGBTQIA+ because we aren't "discriminated against enough", here's a lovely list of reasons why you need to educate yourself:
- We suffer from dehumanisation, people actively devaluing or even erasing our humanity because of our identities (The voidpunk community is heavily supported by aspec people because of this)
- We suffer from self hatred due to feeling as if and being told we are broken, that no one can be happy unless they're in a romantic/sexual relationship, because of allonormativity and amatonormativity that actively damages our mental health
- Amatonormativity shapes laws that put us at an active disadvantage, such as giving married people financial and legal benefits
- Aspec people have been victims of conversion therapy, correctional rape, a lower quality of life, and other effects of being a marginalised and oppressed group
- We suffer from our identities being pathologised and deal with medical stigma because of this, causing many of us to feel unwelcome in and even avoid health care settings
- We suffer from our identities being erased, which can range from people completely denying our existence and people equating it to celibacy, to an almost complete absence of aspec representation in the media (It's been getting better lately, especially for alloaces and aroaces, but I have yet to ever see a canon aroallo character, and representation for those on the spectrum rather than in the extremes is often ignored)
- YOU are creating a hateful, exclusionary space in a community meant to be about inclusion. The same thing that happens to us happens to bisexual people, to polyamorous people, and other identities that are "disputed." In a community meant to be about rejecting the norm, YOU are shoving us out because we don't fit the norm of being LGBTQIA+. Because we're not enough like you.
These are only a few examples of aphobia that people like me deal with. Discrimination and oppression against aspec people stretches far beyond this.
But even if it didn't, it is disrespectful and harmful to everyone involved to gatekeep membership in the community based on oppression and discrimination.
We aren't LGBTQIA+ because we experience oppression. We are LGBTQIA+ because our existence alone goes against heteronormativity and other societal norms forced upon us.
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yiddishfiles · 10 months
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Something that i think is equally important to saying "asexual people aren't asexual because of trauma/body issues and asexuality isn't a phase" is saying "for some people their asexuality IS because of trauma/body issues and it might be something that can be worked through with therapy/recovery but they r still asexual" lots of ppl are asexual for lots of different reasons and u can't go around prescribing the ace experience
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inkkkkss · 2 years
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"Aro/aces aren't part of the lgbtq+ community , they don't face any oppression "
The LGBTQIA+ community is for people who deviate from the cishetnorm. Its for people that don't fit the image of liking the opposite gender sexually and romantically, while identifying as their AGAB.
Aros and aces don't fit into the ideal hetronormative identity therfore THEY ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY
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enbeemagical · 8 months
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normalize being a little bit in love with your friends
normalize being not at all in love with anything
normalize love being confusing and weird as hell
normalize love not being romantic
normalize love not being
normalize not loving
normalize loving in the wrong way
just. normalize being unapologetically yourself
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Daily reminder that using "asexual" as an umbrella term for ace-spec identities is fine and good.
But also,
Daily reminder that using "asexual" as an umbrella term for ace *and* aro-spec identities is not.
Aromanticism is not a subset of asexuality, and should not be grouped under the term asexual as if it is. Doing so erases aromantic allosexual people by making being asexual a barrier to entry to being aromantic.
No, it doesn't matter that's how it's been used in the past. Terminology changes. No, it doesn't matter if you don't mean it that way, people trying to figure out their identity will still see that you're grouping aromantic under asexual and assume they can't be aromantic because they're not asexual (partially why it took me so long to figure out I'm aro).
That's all.
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fixing-bad-posts · 1 year
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[Image description: The words, "AROS & ACES belong in OUR SPACES," coloured using the colours of the aromantic pride flag, asexual pride flag, and the 9-stripe Gilbert Baker pride flag. The text is overlaid on a blurry image of lavender flowers.]
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i was inspired to make a text graphic based on one of my first and most popular posts
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voids-ideas · 2 months
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"It's forced inclusion this" "it's forced inclusion that"
GOOD
If we were included voluntarily, we wouldn't need to be talking about inclusion
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esf-art-and-design · 3 months
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You wanna know something crazy?
I work for a LGBTQ+/Queer non-profit, I’ve had to sit in on training seminars on how to best support our community, how to create a space that is actually safe for everyone in the community, etc.
You wanna know the one thing that was emphasized by these professionals running these seminars (who are also a part of the community btw)
Telling queer people what their labels for their identity ought to be is extremely harmful.
Gatekeeping the community from other people who are figuring themselves out because of labels is harmful?! Shocker I know, but yes it is.
You know what this means right? It means that:
You don’t get to tell a guy experimenting with queer sex that he’s gay/bi/queer/etc if he ID’s as straight
You don’t get to tell a woman experimenting with queer sex that she’s lesbian/bi/queer/etc. if she ID’s as straight
You don’t get to tell aces who are hetero sexual/Romantic that they don’t belong in queer spaces
You don’t get to blame bi lesbians/m-spec women for creepy cishet men entering wlw spaces to hit on women (in an entitled way) (that’s called misogyny babes)
You don’t get to tell someone they are unlovable/not deserving of a relationship/etc. because of the label they use
You don’t get to tell people that actions invalidate their labels because “actions speak louder than words”
You don’t get to demand to know what labels someone uses because of their actions. (Or you don’t force someone to out themselves)
You don’t apply labels to someone from pure speculation (you could be outing someone and putting them in danger)
You don’t get to tell people their labels are “contradictory” or “don’t make sense” and demand they choose one label over the other
Other Labels cannot harm your own identity, and if you act like it can your wrong and harming the community
And ultimately, It means that according to actual professionals within the lgbtq non-profit space, the exclusionists in the community are wrong and are doing immeasurable harm.
Basically what I’m saying is that everyone is welcome here on my blog, policing identity is harmful, and yes, the exclusionists that told you that your identity is invalid or made fun of you for your identity we’re so fucking wrong.
Everyone who experiences sexual orientation, attraction, gender identity, and gender expression differently belongs within our community.
Gatekeeping only keeps people deserving of services away from the spaces where they can get those services. It keeps them away from peer support. And that’s not good, especially if you know the statistics for self harm and suicide within the community.
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citnamora · 1 year
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What is more aro than reworking the very definition of love?
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lizzieraindrops · 6 months
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like oh my god. yes ikora is extremely aromantic. yes chalco is the love of her soul. yes it's entirely platonic and all-consuming. yes she's also demi for eris. yes it's incredibly lesbian/sapphic. yes that's equally important. yes this does incorporate them into the greater reef polycule. what's not clicking
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demiaroacejolynekujo · 2 months
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Lately, I've been seeing discourse about if it's okay to romantically ship Alastor with other characters regardless of the fact he's canonically aroace. I've decided to put my two cents into this as an aroace person.
As a romance and sex favored aroace person, using the whole "ace/aro people can be in relationships" thing should only be used when aphobes and exclusionists are trying to dehumanize Ace/Aro people, not in shipping discourse. I understand that people are trying to say that in good faith. However, that statement can be used as a way to exclude and invalidate romance/sex repulsed Ace/Aro people.
The only way it's okay to romantically ship Ace/Aro characters is if those said characters aren't romance/sex repulsed. Alastor is clearly a romance and sex repulsed aroace character, and putting him in romantic/sexual ships ignores his undesire for a romantic and sexual relationship. However, there's nothing wrong with putting him in platonic or "frienemies"/rival ships as long as you're not doing it for the purpose of wanting him in a romantic/sexual relationship.
I can not speak for the entirety of the Ace/Aro community, but it's important to acknowledge that there's nothing wrong with aroace people who don't pursue romantic/sexual relationships. It's completely valid, and it's also important to normalize the diversity of the Asexual, Aromantic, and aroace spectrums.
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aro-who-reads · 6 months
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Found another "aromantic" mention in a book out in the wild, in Australian queer fairytale retelling anthology 'Everything Under the Moon'.
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According to the forward, one of the stories is about an aromantic character!
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animarret · 4 days
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Ranting about aroace exclusionists a bit: tl:dr my issue is not even the exclusion at this point, it's the lack of respect for ace and/or aro experiences and identity.
Saw one of those whole "should aces belong in queer spaces" debates making the rounds and it got me thinking about some exclu points like. Notably one I kept seeing was along the lines of not feeling safe in queer spaces with "straight" people and like. Okay. We have different ideas of queerness but I sympathize with the sentiment even if I disagree. But it got me thinking about how, if a space is mostly exclusionist towards aces and aros... why would we (aces and/or aros) be there anyway?
Like, I as a queer person (nonbinary and romantically ??? Something not straight) and also as an ace, I know I wouldn't be comfortable in a space like that, even if my more acceptably queer identities were fine there. Because in my experience exclus, kind or not, aren't understanding enough of ace experiences to where I could see that part of me being accepted enough to be open about it.
If any exclus read this for whatever reason: are you as normal about aces and aros as you think? Do you *actually listen* to us? Bc most I've encountered 1) don't have pretty basic definitions of identities on those spectrums correct (aromantic is never mentioned? Gray or demi labels? Hell half the time the definition of ace is wrong), and by extension downplay and dismiss ace and aro experiences. Not even just about like, people being bullied or the more oppressive experiences like that. But like, do you realize that being ace and/or aro can just affect everyday shit?? Shows and movies I like and why are affected by this. The way I practice my religion is affected by my aceness. It is, in fact, an important part of me that is reflected in everything I do. And AVEN is a website, guys. Cmon.
My point is, why would I waste time in a space where the people (no matter how many times you say "aces are valid!!! Just not lgbt") consistently show a complete lack of care or willingness to actually learn about or understand mine and other's experiences? Why would I feel comfortable or safe, even, being in a group that not only doesn't understand asexuality, but isn't willing to try (as friends, comrades, community, etc) to understand me, as an asexual person?
I'm not invading exclu lgbt spaces because I have better friends and allies than that. I have better places to be.
And if you're exclusionist and me asking/saying these things bothers you, maybe make a better effort to be allies to aces and aros. Because for all your talk about us and your valid posts I don't see you making an effort for us. Do better!! Prove me wrong!! Make me eat my angry words!! Want us out? Support ace and aro spaces then! Get our fucking words right! Listen to us!
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entropy-sea-system · 7 months
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Shoutout to aros in plural systems who have in sys partners!!
[endogenic - safe post. sysmeds DNI]
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