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Just wanted to say, your Lu art inspires me everyday!
You’re so sweet! Thank you! I saw that you’d asked for Twilight fluff and this isn’t quite that but I hope it helps carry you through the end of the semester!
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^Wild thinks maybe Wolfie has been hanging out with Time too much 🤔
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saprophilous · 2 months
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just letting you know that that ask you rb'd about glaze being a scam seems to be false/dubious. I think they're just misinterpreting "not as useful as we had hoped" and interpreted it maliciously, based on the replies?
not positive but yeah!
Ah yeah, I see people fairly expressing that being “debunked” as in, not a scam; I wasn’t personally particularly aligned to whether or not its “dubious origins” are true or not… so sorry about that.
From what I’ve read, I was more focused upon the consensus that it doesn’t work, and therefore isn’t worth the effort. So having a positive takeaway on glaze outside of its “scam or not status”, as potentially saving us from ai learning doesn’t seem useful to pass around.
Correct me if there’s better information out there but this from an old Reddit post a year back is why I didn’t continue looking into it as it made sense to my layman’s brain:
“lets briefly go over the idea behind GLAZE
computer vision doesn't work the same way as in the brain. They way we do this in computer vision is that we hook a bunch of matrix multiplications together to transform the input into some kind of output (very simplified). One of the consequences of this approach is that small changes over the entire input image can lead to large changes to the output.
It's this effect that GLAZE aims to use as an attack vector / defense mechanism. More specifically, GLAZE sets some kind of budget on how much it is allowed to change the input, and within that budget it then tries to find a change such that the embeddings created by the VAE that sits in front of the diffusion model look like embeddings of an image that come from a different style.
Okay, but how do we know what to change to make it look like a different style? for that they take the original image and use the img2img capabilities of SD itself to transform that image into something of another style. then we can compare the embeddings of both versions and try and alter the original image such that it's embeddings start looking like that of the style transferred version.
So what's wrong with it?
In order for GLAZE to be successful the perturbation it finds (the funny looking swirly pattern) has to be reasonably resistant against transformations. What the authors of GLAZE have tested against is jpeg compression, and adding Gaussian noise, and they found that jpeg compression was largely ineffective and adding Gaussian noise would degrade the artwork quicker than it would degrade the transfer effect of GLAZE. But that's a very limited set of attacks you can test against. It is not scale invariant, something that people making lora's usually do. e.g. they don't train on the 4K version of the image, at most on something that's around 720x720 or something. As per authors admission it might also not be crop invariant. There also seem to be denoising approaches that sufficiently destroy the pattern (the 16 lines of code).
As you've already noticed, GLAZING something can results in rather noticeable swirly patterns. This pattern becomes especially visible when you look at works that consist of a lot of flat shading or smooth gradients. This is not just a problem for the artist/viewer, this is also a fundamental problem for glaze. How the original image is supposed to look like is rather obvious in these cases, so you can fairly aggressively denoise without much loss of quality (might even end up looking better without all the patterns).
Some additional problems that GLAZE might run into: it very specifically targets the original VAE that comes with SD. The authors claim that their approach transfers well enough between some of the different VAEs you can find out in the wild, and that at least they were unsuccessful in training a good VAE that could resist their attack. But their reporting on these findings isn't very rigorous and lacks quite a bit of detail.
will it get better with updates?
Some artists belief that this is essentially a cat and mouse game and that GLAZE will simply need updates to make it better. This is a very optimistic and uninformed opinion made by people that lack the knowledge to make such claims. Some of the shortcomings outlined above aren't due to implementation details, but are much more intimately related with the techniques/math used to achieve these results. Even if this indeed was a cat and mouse game, you'll run into the issue that the artist is always the one that has to make the first move, and the adversary can save past attempt of the artists now broken work.
GLAZE is an interesting academic paper, but it's not going to be a part of the solution artists are looking for.”
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stephreynaart · 10 months
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Ooh! For the artist ask thing, 5 and 15?
5. What's your favorite thing to draw?
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This guy right here
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intistone · 7 months
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Moon....how in the heck did you eat a brick?
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“….think it had a lot to do with…feeling meh, I guess.”
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bethdehart · 4 months
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6, 11, 21! :]
6. Which artists inspire you right now?
oh gosh that's a tough question... not to give an 'art student' answer but I've always been inspired by Van Gogh lol. In general I'm almost always inspired by the art I see on my dash regardless of who it is tho. idk lol
11. Favorite comment you’ve ever recieved on your work?
ok this is gonna sound silly BUT. I've saved this comment on a cow adoptables post from awhile ago and it makes me laugh every goddamn time.
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my 'note at the bottom' being my adoptable TOS of not using my things for various nasty/abusive things. God. I'm never ever deleting this comment.
21. Weirdest thing you’ve ever drawn?
Define 'weird'. I think a lot of my art can be deemed weird lmao so it's hard to choose. Snoddess is probably up there? Just from a normie perspective.
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Outside of that I like to design aliens and beasts so those are probably also pretty weird.
send me a number from this!
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alienssstufff · 1 year
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8, 22 and 30!
[8] What's an old project idea that you've lost interest in
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this was the alternative idea for back when i did a dapduo dtiys -- then the 9/10 Las Nevadas finale dropped and the composition changed entirely bc of it x]
[22] What physical exercises do you do before drawing, if any lol
[30] What piece of yours do you think is underrated
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THIS one!!
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latelierderiot · 1 month
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8 & 28 💗
8. What is your favourite piece that you have done? I can't show one of my favs bc it's in zine jai!
but definitely these 2, I don't know, they changed something in me hahaha
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18. What is your purpose for drawing? (I'm gonna assume that's a misspelling and you meant 18)
I don't have a purpose, I like drawing, I like any craft really, but drawing I can play dolls with the blorbos and share them with others, and I love that 🫶
Thank you♥
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grape-souffle · 6 months
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Hey stoli and Bourbon! If you ever get into a relationship what would be you’re type?
Also,
*I give you chocolates or anything sweetish you like*
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inkyami · 25 days
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For the 'weirdly specific artistic ask game': 15, 20, 28, 27 & 1!
1. Art programs you have but don't use Used to be ArtRage (a very intuitive program where I first learned to draw with a tablet, but lacking some useful features). In January my computer crashed and now all I have is all that I use.
15. *Where* do you draw (don't drop your ip address this just means do you doodle at a park or smth) Mostly stuck in my room, obviously, but I draw at every event/lecture, in cafes, and sometimes get out of the city for a pleinair trip.
20. Something everyone else finds hard to draw but you enjoy Ornaments, animals, meaty insides. I rarely get the chance though, because my work projects are all pretty safe and repetitive.
27. Do you warm up before getting to the good stuff? If so, what is it you draw to warm up with I know some artists literally go through series of doodles before starting work, but I never have the patience. I scribble a thumbnail of a future work to figure out the composition and count it as a warm up. When working on something, I usually leave the important pieces (faces/accents) for the middle, starting of general shapes or repetitive things (folds, trees, background etc)
28. Any art events you have participated in the past (like zines) Quite a few but I haven’t had the energy of faith in myself in last years. I’ve completed “1 page 1 day”marathon twice, and participated in ~7 zines when invited, but none being big projects. Also some random exhibitions of which I have no certification to show for.
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The Sons of Ivaldi myth for the Fjord zine
Hyakki Yagyō for the Japan zine
Marichi-ten for the Gods zine
Huysman’s A’rebours for the Horror zine + [bonus]
The Changellings illustration for the Bestiary book + [bonus]
Algiz-inspired work for the Rune zine
Weirdly Specific Artist Ask Game!
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sleezeboss · 8 months
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For the ask thing, 20!
mmm I answered in a previous ask but ykw? I'm also really proud of these pieces.
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I really am so happy with the amount of movement and attitude I achieved here. I currently have these as my desktop images for my monitors, which is pretty rare for me to have my own art as a bg haha.
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cogmented · 1 month
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25‼️
😅
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(25. Based on your recent reference searches, what would the FBI assume about you?)
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I’ve been scrolling through some of the Linked Universe tags the past few days and every so often I’ve come across your art, mostly of Warriors and Time and I just wanted to say I absolutely love it! Your art style is really cool and I love the way you colour the pieces you draw, it’s very nice! I hope you’re having an excellent day!
Thank you so much!! I’ve had so much fun drawing Warrior and Time shenanigans and it’s really helped push my art wrt character interactions
I’m so glad you’re enjoying it! 🥰🥰🥰
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Time: So, what’s going on here?
Warriors: Not sure, but it definitely seems like something you should deal with.
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saprophilous · 2 months
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Hello! I noticed another pitential commissioner asked you about fat characters - do you have any examples of older, male characters? I've an OC who appears between late forties and late fifties and have been jonesing over your style for a while.
Hello! Awesome. I love drawing older people too -- I feel like people look cooler as they get older. I actually draw a comic for Vortex Media and designed the main character to be older (they initially wanted him to be young;;)...
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His original concept art and a couple other illustrations of older men.
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oooocleo · 7 months
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For the artist ask game:
5, 12, 20, 25
(already answered 5 and 25!)
12. Easiest part of body to draw
hair? hands? ears but only if theyre elf ears....
20. Something everyone else finds hard to draw but you enjoy
hair???? hands??? hahah ig hands especially are what less experienced illustrators tend to struggle with.. when they shud be more afraid of feet really... and knees......
bc i really like hand gestures i think i just went really hard on learning how to draw them (+ there are great resources like the morpho hands and feet booklet by lauricella)
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intistone · 2 months
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Have you seen the most recent Tumblr update? If not I urge you to check it out so you can turn off third party sharing.
Yep, just saw it. My art is not up for grabs for AI. Get outta here
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vicekillx · 4 months
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6 and 10 please!
6. Which artists inspire you right now?
Saren Stone ♡ @reddokkaebe ♡ Taran Fiddler ♡ @nataliedecorsair ♡ @shpepyao ♡ @marcusto ♡ Bruno Redondo ♡ @monstrifex-art ♡ @beastsoulart ♡ @peachiewizardart ♡ @thefusspot ♡ @phobs-heh ♡ @sasharjones ♡ @dark-kanova ♡ @hannahorca ♡ @bucketofrobots ♡ @shibara ♡ @nightspin--sfmt ♡ @muepin ♡ @namiinstone ♡ @extra-vertebrae ♡ @finzphoenix ♡ @shin-arei ♡ @liktar-art ♡ @shoomlah ♡ @thefuzzyaya ♡ @lurelin ♡ @qugre ♡ @bioatomic ♡ @nataliehall ♡ @stjepan-sejic ♡ @pirate-cashoo ♡ @tendermiasma ♡ @dunesand ♡ @crispy-ghee ♡ @kelogsloops And a bunch more that are either too spicy to link or have me blocked (good art is good art, man)
10. What's the one thing that inspired you to make drawing your consistent hobby?
Nothing. There was no inspiration. I started drawing when I was old enough to hold a crayon and never stopped, because I can't stop. It's just intrinsic to who I am
But I know that's an unsatisfying answer, and also art is my career rather than a hobby, so for a slightly less unsatisfying but still kind of anti-climactic answer: I became a professional artist because I wasn't "good enough" (read: I wasn't interested enough to put in the effort to get good) at anything else. I actually wanted to go into zoology, but after doing 4 years of marine bio and absolutely hating all the aspects of it that had nothing to do with animal science, I decided I never wanted to do math or chemistry ever again. And then I was a teenager with undiagnosed depression and anxiety and ADHD and autism and the very concept of a muggle job was fucking terrifying to me. So I stayed home and let people pay me to draw their dog people getting frisky instead lol
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