#as if Mobius wasn't explicitly self-motivated through the show and he showed regret or understanding that his actions were ever wrong

[worstloki]

the way people will say Mobius was morally fine to torture Loki because it was his job with the TVA.................................so what if i tell you New York was Loki's job for Thanos? now what?

#where do we go from here fellow individual #where do we go #where do we go when people decide Mobius is a pillar of moral righteousness who is innately good and sympathetic towards Loki #while Loki deserves to be punished and shown the light by the guy who low-modality muses over whether Loki 'can change' #when people decide this #as if Loki wasn't ever different #before or after this point in time #as if he was completely self motivated during the attack too #because he really just put so much effort into that endeavor didn't he #as if Mobius wasn't explicitly self-motivated through the show and he showed regret or understanding that his actions were ever wrong #the Loki show #i am SO confused at people deciding Loki has no moral ground over anyone because even in the show he doesn't force his opinion on others #the most he does is nudge their perception of things or explain his own #like #y'all notice that people decide Thor has more morals than Loki when it's pretty clear Loki's under pressure was doing his Thor rendition #people deciding Valkyrie has moral ground to judge Loki on or that Odin ever did #et tu Mobius? #lets talk about how Stephen Strange only sacrificed the stone when he knew that was their only shot at 'winning' #while everyone else doing so did not have that certainty #Steve 'we don't trade lives' Rogers #Natasha 'set a hospital on fire' Romanoff #Wanda 'knowingly torturing thousands for my Dreamhouse AU' Maximoff #do people not remember the entire start-to-mid section of what redemption arcs are? since you've got to have something to redeem on? #why does morality and how much of a villain they are and whether they can change only come up when the topic is Loki #specifically a character that had a bad year and worked on their redemption in the main canon timeline after anyway #like ?????????????? #i am so confused #mobius saying 'maybe he wants to mix it up a little is that possible?' 'that's not how i see it' and 'you can be anything' isn't that great #ESPECIALLY considering WE'VE seen moments where he wasn't going death death kill murder evil laugh all over the place