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What do you want Dany's endgame to be, and do you think GRRM will write something close to it? (OMG your header is gorgeous)

I don’t think GRRM will write anything remotely close to it. It literally cannot happen due to where the book is going. It can’t happen because there is Young Griff and Jon Connington who are currently plotting against Cersei, not Daenerys. It can’t happen because Sansa is not in the North, and she will not be married off to Ramsay Snow, therefore she will not find Jon at the wall and fight for Winterfell. It cannot happen because Daenerys has not shown a single sign of madness in the books, in fact, sis literally critiques herself and beats herself up over her mistakes, and also questions her own sanity, fearful that she’ll become her father. People who are mad don’t question their choices, they don’t beat themselves up over their failures, they don’t critique themselves, they’re spiteful and entitled and believe that the world owes them something; example, Viserys Targaryen,

Thank you so much for saying that! I’m really happy with it :)

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The memory of the rejection still rankled, even after all these years. Many a night she had watched Prince Rhaegar in the hall, playing his silver-stringed harp with those long, elegant fingers of his. Had any man ever been so beautiful? He was more than a man, though. His blood was the blood of old Valyria, the blood of dragons and gods. When she was just a little girl, her father had promised her that she would marry Rhaegar. She could not have been more than six or seven. “Never speak of it, child,” he had told her, smiling his secret smile that only Cersei ever saw. “Not until His Grace agrees to the betrothal. It must remain our secret for now.” And so it had, though once she had drawn a picture of herself flying behind Rhaegar on a dragon, her arms wrapped tight about his chest. When Jaime had discovered it she told him it was Queen Alysanne and King Jaehaerys.

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Realisation from ASOIAF reread: when i first read this series i was 17 and in awe of everything what is happening. Seven years later i’m more mature and dead inside and i recognise that everybody… every single person in this books… dumbasses… complete idiots… even smart ones… what is even happening there idk, why they make this decisions… if Cat Stark dont die this book i’m gonna go insane

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i know Jojen and Meera Reed were made just to be wasted on Bran Stark but i would rather read whole book on them than sit through another of his chapters. present me and me from seven years ago high five because i still like and dislike the same people 

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rational brain: Robert Baratheon’s actually kind of a monster. He endorsed the actions of men who killed a woman and her two children, tried to have a pregnant young girl assassinated, put the nation into massive debt for frivolous reasons, doesn’t take responsibility for his actions, and he abused his wife for the entire duration of their marriage

primate brain: heh heh Bobby B

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i am rereading a feast for crows which is basically cersei’s book as she has more POVs than anyone else and rules the realm as tommen’s regent 

first of all i should say i love show!cersei much more (what is season 8? i don’t know her) than book!cersei who is, to be honest, not so clever 

she’s very arrogant but insecure, she lusts for power but can’t keep that power and makes mistakes that cost her everything

the reason, probably, lies in her childhood. all tywin ever cared about was house lannister but he never cared about the members of this house as persons and their happiness. she wanted to please him, to make him proud of her, to prove she could become the heir tywin had always dreamed of, but he never considered her one because she was a girl and used her only for an alliance with robert baratheon

so robert is dead, joffrey is dead, tywin is dead, tommen is only 8 years old, now she can rule. what does she do?

she hates the tyrells and personally margaery who is, as cersei believes, the YMB. she doesn’t let them to the small council, she wants to make a dornishman new master at arms just to piss them off and tries to destroy margaery. she makes kevan lannister, her closest and wisest relative, leave the king’s landing because she doesn’t to share power with him, she sends jaime off to riverrun because he has changed since she last saw him and doesn’t look like her twin anymore. she agrees to restore the militant orders of the faith in return for a blessing for tommen and forgiveness of the crown’s debt which leads to her dowfall 

jaime still loves cersei. he’s mad at her and jealous but he loves her even after tyrion told him she had slept with lancel and osmund kettleblack

she doesn’t.

cersei calls jaime stupid, she pities him and asks herself how she could love him all this time, she is disgusted by the sight of his stump and recalls how she used to dream of ruling the 7k together with him but now he only annoys her. she sleeps with osney kettleblack and considers seducing aurane waters even not to get something from him but just because he’s handsome. she needs jaime only when she the sparrows take her captive and asks him to fight for her and probably die with her because she believes they must die together 

she thinks of him as a male version of herself, as her shadow, not as a person. she manipulated him to become a king’s guard so that no other woman would get what belongs to her. she doesn’t love him, she thinks she owns him. and that’s the tea

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Problems with Rhaegar x Lyanna

So I have gotten interested in ASIOAF being a big history nerd. I know the summaries of the books and I’m using book evidence only here since GOT and the books diverged a ton. And I have some problems with Rhaegar/Lyanna.


  1. Casting Aside Elia Martell: Rhaegar publically humiliated his wife, Elia Martell, when he crowned another woman as the Queen of Love and Beauty. There are so many Unfortunate Implications with this act. One issue is how Rhaegar cast his wife aside even though they had two children together to fulfill a dragon head prophecy. Although people have said Rhaegar was “fond” of Elia, his actions don’t support it. He cast the Dornish WOC Elia in favor of Lyanna, an under-aged white teenager. And there’s no way that Elia did anything to deserve this with even Targaryen supporters saying she was a sweet and good woman. Rhaegar was prone to fits of melancholy, so Elia never deserved any of this. Rhaegar simply abandoned his wife and children to the mercy of his father and later The Mountain, who murdered Elia and her children. Rhaegar’s father used Elia and her kids to get her family to support the Targaryens, which is cruel on so many levels. Rhaegar was obsessed with fulfilling the prophecy and because Elia couldn’t deliver the three heads, Rhaegar would cast her aside.
  2. Lack of Consent: Lyanna was a teenager while Rhaegar was a married with children and about double her age. Even if teenagers were considered adults in the Middle Ages, most people weren’t married off that young. Some were (Margaret Beaufort), but many married in their early 20s. Plus Lyanna was described as a child multiple times by Ned, and the brain isn’t fully developed, so the decisions Lyanna makes are not informed. The age difference isn’t the only thing that screams non-consensual. There’s the fact that when Lyanna screamed for Ned in the Tower of Joy and the Kingsguard did not let her brother in. If this was consensual or she was kept in the Tower for her health, Ned should definitely have been let in. There’s no way that Lyanna would have stayed idly if she knew her brother and father were killed when they fought for her return. If she’s screaming Ned’s name, Rhaegar must have told her about her family’s deaths after the fact, or Lyanna found out another way. Either way, this is not informed consent.
  3. Betrothal to Robert: Then there’s the legal and political boundaries. Lyanna was betrothed to Robert Baratheon. Even if she had reservations about marriage and Robert, that doesn’t mean she would consent to Rhaegar. Lyanna’s issue was about Robert’s promiscuity. It would not follow that she would run away with a married man (which would be promiscuous too). There’s also how in the associated game Crusader Kings II Game of Thrones that allows for an alternate continuity where Lyanna is rescued from the Tower of Joy alive. In this timeline, Lyanna marries Robert and their happy marriage sends Westeros into a Golden Age. Plus Robert’s chances of depression are eliminated with Lyanna’s survival, and the civil wars are prevented by their reign. Then there’s how Robert raised a rebellion to return Lyanna to her home in addition to avenging Lyanna’s family. That shows a lot of devotion on Robert’s part.
  4. Targaryen Tyranny: Rhaegar supported his father in the Rebellion even though Aerys II tortured and murdered Lyanna’s relatives. And Aerys also called for Ned and Robert’s deaths even though they were wards of the Vale and hadn’t done anything wrong at this point. Healthy relationships do not easily dismiss in-laws like this.
  5. Lack of Evidence Regarding Ned Stark’s Approval: I have seen shippers claim that Ned is fine about Rhaegar, but I don’t see any evidence of that. Ned’s comment regarding Rhaegar and brothels was simply damned by faint praise. And him honoring Ser Arthur seems related only to his love, Ashara Dayne’s, brother, and simply being a skilled knight. Nothing more, nothing less. He has no praise for the other Kingsguard imprisoning his sister. He most likely doesn’t explore his thoughts regarding a Rhaegar because he has a family to worry about and it makes him melancholy about Lyanna’s death.

Conclusion: There’s a lot of evidence suggesting a non-consensual relationship between the two in the books. Any hint of “consensuality” was most likely Rhaegar grooming Lyanna to run away with him using his charm (a common tactic by stautatory rapists and child molesters). Hence, I do not support Lyanna/Rhaegar.

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