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You’ve basically encapsulated it right here, anon. “Ice cold” is a perfect description of Mas Amedda, who is as severe with Krennic as he is with Tarkin (and was probably as severe with the Council during the Republic.)

He is just…not a nice man (Chagrian). He never aspires to higher office, like Chancellor, which I feel makes him more dangerous in many ways (if we leave out the whole “a Sith Lord is actually in control of the Republic” thing) because sometimes more power and influence stems from these supposed “behind-the-scenes” roles and those who strive to fill those spots know exactly what they are doing and why. 

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YES, ANON, IT IS

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It’s also the fight where Dooku literally rolls Obi-wan like a bowling ball:

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But then I was looking at it again (for like, the thousandth time), and I realized just how good Dooku is in this duel. (And how almost good Obi-wan is.)

(And small disclaimer here, I have no knowledge of “real” sword-fighting aside from what I’ve absorbed through general cultural osmosis and a curious google instinct, this is just an interpretation from my over-excited brain.)

Anakin, for the most part, sticks with Djem So as his primary fighting style, incorporating elements of Ataru in his more acrobatic moments. This holds true throughout the entirety of TCW and is the form by which he eventually overwhelms Dooku in RotS

Dooku, however, gives a minor masterclass in sword(saber) fighting in this sequence, not only using his preferred Makashi (although I have to say, the man can take on Obi-wan and Anakin at once with one hand behind his back and my gods, is that not evidence of skill), but also demonstrating his ability at

Djem So:

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Soresu (at least a bastardized form, but I can’t be the only person who recognized that stance Dooku uses):

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and Ataru (I mean, Dooku did train Qui-gon):

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But what I really love is the fact that Obi-wan tries to adapt to this, matching Dooku’s *Makashi:

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and Ataru (in this case, exactly copying his movements):

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Which…I mean, Obi-wan is essentially being a mini-Dooku here, although he isn’t quite at Dooku’s level for a variety of reasons I have discussed previously in terms of Obi-wan never being on his game around Dooku and actually consistently underperforming when he’s in the presence of his Grandmaster.

But you have to hand it to Dooku for not only winning a(nother) duel against two of the best Jedi in the Order, but doing it with style.

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I love this evil, old man. 

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Honestly, Dooku should have made a few more holocalls, especially around Seasons 5-7 of TCW, because I think he might have succeeded in the right circumstances. 

(I mean, if nothing else, he should have definitely hit up Obi-wan post-Mandalore/Satine’s death and/or post-their confrontation on Oba Diah (where Dooku dredges up some very old history between him and Obi-wan and Obi-wan almost seems like he has to convince himself Dooku was lying even though he wasn’t).

Anyway, I love these two.

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hahaha I am so sorry, anon! My 10th-grade algebra teacher singled me out (I never understood her malice towards me although I admit to not being the easiest lego-teenager to get along with) and essentially derailed my math career for many, many years, so I get it. 

But also, it’s him. You don’t need to find him physically attractive to appreciate the snark and badassery (a fragile shell covering a very complicated, conflicted man wrestling with his inner demons, which is why I love the character so) that is one Obi-wan Kenobi. 

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Yeah, there was a reason for my numerous warnings on that story. And honestly, after yesterday’s events here in America, I’m not even sure I can go back and read it without some major preparation.

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So we got dark!Ahsoka and dark!Anakin in the Mortis arc. 

But we did not get dark!Obi-wan. (yes yes, Qui-gon appeared, or should I say, “Qui-gon” aka Obi-wan’s deep insecurities manifested in the form of his former master oh damnit I should get bak to Hung one of these days…)

Anyway, whatever, I get it in terms of narrative. Anakin was the dark side, Obi-wan the light, and Ahsoka in between but COME ON. They tease us with these…milliseconds of Obi-wan flirting with the dark side and I would have just loved one canon instance (in which it would have been totally justified by the narrative) to watch Obi-wan go ham and embrace that side of him on screen.

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I don’t wholly disagree, but it would entirely depend on how it happened. I feel that if anyone but Obi-wan killed Maul, it would just be unsatisfactory. I mean, if Palpatine had ended Maul during “The Lawless,” that would essentially rewrite most of the recent Star Wars canon we know. I’m not…totally against this, by any means, (I mean, we had no idea what Maul was doing for ages), but again, it would really depend on what we got as a substitute. 

Now, did Rebels get really caught up on the Obi-wan-Maul plot line and then only give it one episode to play out? Yes. But on the whole, I am a big fan of Twin Suns, so I can’t argue too, too much with it. 

In terms of a TCW death…I just feel if Obi-wan had killed Maul during that timeline, it would have been in anger and then we would have gotten Sith!Obi-wan or at least dark!Obi-wan. Which, I mean, I looove that incarnation of him but we weren’t going to get that in canon (not even in the Mortis arc YOU COWARDS). And, to me, anything else would have been less than satisfying. 

I don’t know. TCW and Rebels are imperfect, but I’m pretty pleased, overall, with how they handled Maul. 

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I’m torn on this one. 

On one hand, I think it fits nicely into the idea that the Force is not reserved only for the Jedi. Because in the end, what is the Force but being able to read energies between living things, to tap into those energies, to “read the vibes,” so to speak and trust your gut instinct? 

It’s just the Jedi are over-sensitive, in a way, to these quantum-level shifts and developed an entire religion and society around it. So yes, given Han Solo’s incredibly lucky streak and prowess with his weapon and piloting, I don’t think it’s out of the question.

On the other hand, I feel like this reliance on the Force to explain extraordinary skills lessens the idea of hard work and practice. Han is damn good at what he does. Nature or nurture? Or both? Is he good because he has a natural affinity which he developed or because he has some kind of low-level Force ability. I’m reticent to attribute all extraordinary feats to supernatural (so to speak) powers as it diminishes the actual hard work and practice that is all part of becoming proficient at a skill (whether it be shooting, piloting, smuggling, music, etc.)

So I am wholly on the fence with this one. 

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I’m conflicted about Thrawn’s portrayal in the new books. I thought what Timothy Zahn did in the Canon-new trilogy, especially the first novel, was pretty good, overall. Thrawn wasn’t necessarily evil, but he wasn’t good, either. He was just…him, operating on a moral compass totally outside of anything in the Imperial Forces, the Jedi, or the Rebels. And I can appreciate that. 

Now, I admittedly have not read The Rise of Kylo Ren comics (I honestly can’t get excited about anything set in the Sequel universe), but I do feel that on a certain level, Thrawn has begun to lose his complexity as the novels have progressed. And it really doesn’t get at the meat of Thrawn’s actions with the Empire and his supposed good intentions. 

And to be honest, I’m uncertain if Disney will even go near this question. I think the idea of Thrawn’s “alternative” morality in working with the Empire is a lot more attractive than painting him as a sympathetic antagonist or just an all-around bad guy. Because he does go along with a lot of evil shit in working for the Empire (and the Chiss, let’s be honest, are no angels, either). I just want the stories, I want nu-canon to embrace this complexity. Not everything is good vs. bad, there are a lot of shades of grey in-between (and the changes in Dooku’s story between the EU and nu-canon exemplify this change). Please, address Thrawn’s flaws the way Zahn did in the first book, because Thrawn was okay with a lot of shady shit (including slavery). I still think he’s a fascinating character, but I can’t say I’m a huge fan of him slowly creeping towards being “misunderstood.” Let the bad guys be justified in some of their actions, even if they are bad, or at least morally neutral, bad guys. 

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Mace Windu is the embodiment of the quote “the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice.” He is not a villain but nor he is an easy man to appreciate and even less to get to know. I really appreciate his character now more than I used to, in that he had to make a ton of difficult, unpopular decisions in a no-win situation. And on top of that, he is a hard personality, which isn’t necessarily a fault, it’s just who he is. Now, I think he sometimes was too rigid and had too much faith in his (and the Jedi’s) form of justice and righteousness, but damn, did he try and then man cared. So yes, I wholly agree he is unnecessarily villainized. 

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Mace is not a dumb man and he knew Anakin was compromised on a number of levels. I think Mace really showed an astounding level of restraint and trust when it came to Anakin in the later years, which could be the result of many factors, including knowing Anakin’s links to Palpatine, trust in Obi-wan, Anakin’s prowess on the battlefield, and that whole prophecy thing (*coughJinncough*).

This being said, Anakin was not on the Council and therefore wasn’t privy to their intelligence (which really makes you wonder about the Rako Hardeen arc, in that the Council had to know had tight Anakin and Obi-wan were and if on some level, Obi-wan’s subterfuge was some form of subconscious test. Not that Obi-wan necessarily would spill secrets to Anakin, but it was also not outside the realm of possibility.)

So in the end, I think Mace retained an interesting balance of healthy skepticism and optimism that ultimately, Anakin would choose the side of justice. Which didn’t quite pan out. But yet, just as Mace couldn’t wholly trust Ahsoka in the Mandalore arc, I think the same circumstances and thought processes apply to Anakin, especially given the Council’s increasing distrust of Palpatine and Anakin’s seemingly increasing trust of him. 

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Oh, thank you so much for the kind words, anon! Hopefully, it won’t take me another few months to get this out, now that Lego Re-Education camp is over and I’m not working 40+ hours a week and doing night classes. :D

Stay tuned!

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Here’s a big crumble, friend :D This is still in somewhat rough draft form, so the final product will likely be somewhat altered.

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“Oh, I have a better idea, Master Kenobi. Perhaps you would be willing to expand upon the attacks in the Bonchaka District? I’m sure you’ve read the news regarding this - ” Tarkin’s lips peeled back, revealing a set of shining, bone-white teeth in what Obi-wan supposed was a gross approximation of a smile. “Rogue Jedi. Most disturbing, especially seeing as that sector falls under my governance.”

Acid boiled in Obi-wan’s gut. Of course, it’s his District. How bloody convenient for the Republic military and their lobbyists in the Senate.

Obi-wan swallowed a gnarled, thorny knot of retorts, tracing the outline of the vicious scar - proof, if they ever thought to look for it - concealed beneath the dark glove on his right hand palm. “While the attacks are unfortunate,” he answered, pausing the appropriate amount of time to convey the appropriate amount of remorse for the loss of life. (Hollow theater, hissed a voice in the back of his mind), “there is no evidence to suggest that a Jedi has anything to do with them.” 

Something resembling a chuckle emanated from the other side of the glossy terbinute desk. “Not even a rogue actor? Surely your Order said the same before Dooku emerged as the Separatist leader.” Tarkin briefly raised an eyebrow at Obi-wan as he moved a stylus from one side of his datapad to the other. 

Visions of the man’s death-grin strung through with casing wire flitted through Obi-wan’s mind. Digging his fingers into his palm, he banished the bloody idea with a tight squeeze of his scar (liar, you just buried it with all the rest, in that ever-growing graveyard of your sins).

Dooku,” Obi-wan bit the name, “had left the Order entirely years before. He was a free citizen, there was no indication - “

“And what of the others who leave, who are,” Tarkin interrupted, folding his hands together, leaning his elbows on the desk. “Discontent with the current situation? A Jedi is a powerful being, Master Kenobi, and even now the tentative balance between the interests of the Republic and the generous - in hindsight, perhaps foolhardy - independence we have allotted your Order has tipped the scales dangerously away from the autonomy of our government.” 

“Handcuffing the Jedi in the midst of a devastating galactic conflict will hardly even that score.”

“On the contrary. I believe oversight will perhaps focus your efforts, assuage any guilt over what you deem to be the military’s less-than-palatable tactics. It will also,” Tarkin stood, indicating the meeting was coming to a close. “Put to rest any fears of an attack by a militia of disgruntled ex-Jedi. Surely you’ve read the recent opinion pieces?“

Yes, he had read the articles. Had devoured the false accusations, the inflammatory rhetoric, the calls for “law and order” against an increasingly - in their words - insurrectionist organization.

“The holopress has shown a particular talent for fiction in recent weeks,” Obi-wan retorted as he came to his feet, brushing his tunics with his hand, as if the simple motion could sweep away the stubborn barbs of Tarkin’s words.

“As I said, Admiral, it is highly unlikely these attacks are the work of an actual Jedi. Our numbers are dwindling, and most of our Knights even capable of carrying out such an assault are flung wide across the galaxy. Unless you believe this to be the work of a frustrated youngling denied their post-dinner treacle tart, I’m afraid I will, on behalf of the Order, have to deny all culpability.”

“And a Jedi who has left your Order?”

What would you do, Kenobi, if you gave yourself that freedom? 

Obi-wan clenched his jaw. “They don’t.”

Which was the truth, from a certain point of view. Excepting the Lost Twenty, most anyone who left the Jedi Order did so under a singular condition.

In a body bag.

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I thought the premise was an interesting one. A talented Jedi who became infatuated with her Master (Dooku) and thus was barred from the Trials altogether, leaving the Order in disgrace and shame. She turned to the Dark Side after torture by the Force-worshipping Bando Gora cult and ultimately rose as its High Priestess. When Sidious ordered her dispatched of, Dooku turned it into a kind of contest - the bounty hunter able to take out the power Force-wielder would become the template for the clone army. And yes, that being would be Jango Fett.

A lot of the beats in this story hit the right chord - a young Vosa falling for her urbane, older Master, which is not unheard of in these intense, one-on-one training relationships (ask me about music conservatory culture one day, oof). To Dooku’s credit, he wanted nothing to do with this (and I sincerely doubt he would even as a Sith - that’s just not his M.O., thank the Force). Her falling into a Force-worshipping cult, which is absolutely fantastic (and something I wish had been utilized in the Sequels). And then finally, Dooku’s inability to actually kill her directly, manipulating the situation into “The Box? Version 1.0 is 100% on-brand for his character. I actually don’t think he’s ever been able to take out a friend/Lineage member directly. He hired the Pykes to deal with Sifo-Diyas, bounty hunters for Komari, more or less left Ventress to die but never actually ensured her death, ditto for Savage, and never actually landed a killing blow in a situation with Obi-wan, even though he certainly had the upper hand in those encounters. 

Now, it’s been a while since I’ve read those comics and to be perfectly honest, I am wholly in love with Rael Averross and his whole schtick so I’m willing to let go of Komari Vosa in exchange for Rael. That being said, it wasn’t a half-bad storyline. 

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Exactly. The premise was far too easy, Dooku too quickly tucked into that neat category of ‘fledgling bad guy’ because obviously, the Jedi traitor and leader of the CIS could *never* have had some decent criticisms of the Order and suffer from the same existential despair as Yoda but could never quite admit or communicate it.

(And yes, this is my issue with nu-canon in general. It falls into too-easy tropes of “good” vs. “evil” which is why - and I know you are all very sick of hearing me talk about this - but it is why Master and Apprentice sticks out to me so much. Because Qui-gon, despite being on the side of the Light, of the Jedi, of the “good” - he still massively fucks up and is an obvious hypocrite and for me, that is the type of layered storytelling and characterization I find intriguing. Note: Clone Wars (for the most part) and the Prequels do not fall into this trap. It’s really…well, it’s a Disney-acquisition thing and I can’t say I’m a fan.)

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ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO. So my thing about Jedi Lost - 

First of all, there’s a fair amount I really like. Every minute, every damned millisecond of the material with Dooku, Rael, and Qui-gon is absolute fucking gold from Rael hugging Dooku, to Dooku captaining a fucking old timey skiff on the seas of course that pretentious bastard would, to Qui-gon and Dooku undermining about 1,000 Jedi and Republic laws to chase down the beings who sabotaged Ramil’s racing craft.  Not to mention that whole scene with Rael and Dooku and RAEL INTRODUCING DOOKU TO PALPATINE COWBOY JEDI NOOOOOOOO DON’T DO IT. Honest to everything, Rael is such an intriguing character that I am willing to throw a lot of EU stuff out the window just to have him around. He’s amazing. We need more Rael Averross in our lives. We need the whole story as to how he and Dooku even got matched in the first place.

But here’s my beef with Jedi Lost. 

It gave Dooku a way too obvious villain arc. Dad disowns you and is a prick? You have Random Dark Side lightning tendencies? Admittedly, Kostana was an interesting character and I thought Sifo-Diyas was handled quite well, in terms of him having actual, debilitating, TRUE Force Visions on the scale of something akin to a massive, severe form of epilepsy (contrasting with Qui-gon’s bullshit years later in Master and Apprentice). But I far prefer Dooku’s villainous origin story in Dark Rendezvous - his parents still rejected him, but not in an obvious way. They just…let him go. And that is the scar Dooku takes with him. “Every Jedi is a child his parents decided they could live without,” Dooku says in that book, and damn it all, that is a powerful statement and and damning indictment of the Jedi themselves. Because he’s not 100% wrong there. Parents - good parents, loving parents, perhaps - still might have given up their children. And given Dooku’s tendency to philosophize, I feel this is the perfect setup for his eventual fall, his preoccupation with the emptiness of the galaxy, the notion of being alone and why should any of it even matter (which links so well with his seeming preoccupation with collecting apprentices, and you know Obi-wan was high up on that list.)

So anyway, what I’m saying is that I would 10000000% keep the Rael and Qui-gon content but balance it with the more existential Dooku of Dark Rendezvous.

Ironically enough? He’s kind of the same oblivious asshole to Ventress in both books and is definitely making bad decisions when it comes to Sidious, Yoda, and Jenza.

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This is exactly what I’m talking about, anon! It’s almost frightening how the discourse in the States right now translates so easily to the GFFA in this scenario.

I need to create a series of shorts that is just articles and letters to the editor/message boards in this “worse” RotS universe. 

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