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whereserpentswalk · 2 days
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Remember that radfems aren't the first time in internet history the right has stolen a left wing movement through stowing division. Skeptic YouTube had the same thing happen ten years ago.
In the 2000s and early 2010s skeptic/atheist YouTube (and their entire community its not just YouTube) was left wing. Their biggest by far target were evangelicals. And when they did start arguing with feminists (though this was the beginning of the end, as it was used as an in by the right), they were largely talking agaisnt neoliberal capitalist feminism from a leftist perspective.
The atheist vitriol, while often going way too far, was still the rage of a marginalized group. Atheists are unquestionably marginalized in the west, often in the same ways as queer people. The atheist internet, though very very flawed, was the first marginalized community on the internet to make a name for themselves. And I say this as someone whose no longer an atheist despite being raised one.
The skeptic community drifted right wing around 2016, mostly by becoming afraid of other minority groups. And, like all reactionaries, reactionary elements in the group turned anger at capitalist systems into anger at marginalized people.
And just like how people who used to call themselves feminists are now fighting for the most ridged gender rolls imaginable, most of those people who used to call themselves atheists are currently either converted to the worst forms of chrsitantiy, or defending them as western values.
If you want to see the future of people like the lgb alliance, look at Sargon of Akkad, someone who used to be an atheist demsoc, who has now become a reactionary mouthpiece, defending evangelical Christians on his podcast, until the end of time.
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fuckingwhateverdude · 3 months
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islam-defined · 7 months
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Indeed, Allah created everything, by a perfect measure (54:49)
Anything that is created by a measurement produces the product with perfection, whether it is its shape, size, appearance, lifespan or quality. Whenever humans produce something, it is certified for its perfection in the name of guarantee and warrantee. The product is also sent to R & D center for finding faults in it, so that any discrepancies in it could be removed.
In fact, Allah created everything, in truth, with perfect measure, in flawless shapes, with a time-span, with a purpose and their destiny.
So Allah declares, “He has perfected everything what He has created” (27:88, 32:7 etc) and then He CLAIMS, “Did they never observe the sky above them and understand how We built it and beautified it; without any flaws” (50:6).
Flawlessness in prefect measure. Really, Let’s check:
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And I am not able to produce more, Allah's creation is infinite. Allah says, “To Allah belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Verily, Allah, He is Al-Ghani (Free of all needs), Worthy of all praise" [31:26]
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Allah says, "If all the trees on earth were pens and the ocean were ink, refilled by seven other oceans, the Words of Allah would not be exhausted". [31:27]
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Here I look into existence of Allah, in His creation of insect, fluid and hexagon. Quran says, "Surely Allah is Almighty, All-Wise. O people! Your creation and your resurrection for accountability on the Day of Judgement, is as easy as creating and resurrecting just one soul”. [31:28]
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dirtyatheist · 2 years
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queenie435 · 1 year
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milwaukeemilf · 4 months
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demonic-shadowlucifer · 2 months
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hi christians and muslims and jews and pagans and wiccans and hindus and buddhists and sikhs and shintoists and taoists and jainists and people of other religions and athiests and agnostics are all holding hands dancing and picking flowers together and just having a fun silly time because we're all siblings in arms :)
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By religious, I mean actively believing in a higher power(s). Cultural experiences related to religion (holidays, days of rest, sayings) don't count for the purpose of this poll.
This is hardly very scientific, but I'm curious.
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petirep · 7 months
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Sappy Personal Post ❤️
“Everything crashed down and I was left with rubble… I can’t stop and cry over the rubble as if I destroyed it. The TRUTH destroyed it. Reason killed it. It was destroyed by itself, because it was never anything to stand on.”
Ten years ago I journaled those words in reference to my Christian faith. This moment of self-reflection was the culmination of a years-long journey away from faith. It was significant for me because that was the first time I ever referred to my faith in the past tense - it would be the first time I openly accepted that I was no longer a Christian.
Leading up to this point were months of depression and self-loathing about where my Biblical research was taking me. For the longest time I had been guiltily blaming myself for the decay of my faith - as if it had been the result of personal shortcomings. This marked the moment in my life when I was finally able to stop hating myself for not being good enough, and accept that it was instead Christianity that was inherently flawed. In the ten years since putting religion behind me, I have taken a few missteps along the road of self discovery, but ultimately I have developed into a person I am proud to be. I have become a person more able to love myself and love others - ironically, as the Jesus of the Bible would have wanted me to be. If you are someone who is struggling with a fallout from faith, I want you to know that you have no reason to despair. There is life after faith. You are still you. There is so much joy and love to be found in this world. 
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whereserpentswalk · 9 days
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The nazis that you see in movies are as much a historical fantasy as vikings with horned helmets and samurai cutting people in half.
The nazis were not some vague evil that wanted to hurt people for the sake of hurting them. They had specific goals which furthered a far right agenda, and they wanted to do harm to very specific groups, (largely slavs, jews, Romani, queer people, communists/leftists, and disabled people.)
The nazis didn't use soldiers in creepy gas masks as their main imagery that they sold to the german people, they used blond haired blue eyed families. Nor did they stand up on podiums saying that would wage an endless and brutal war, they gave speeches about protecting white Christian society from degenerates just like how conservatives do today.
Nazis weren't atheists or pagans. They were deeply Christian and Christianity was part of their ideology just like it is for modern conservatives. They spoke at lengths about defending their Christian nation from godless leftism. The ones who hated the catholic church hated it for protestant reasons. Nazi occultism was fringe within the party and never expected to become mainstream, and those occultists were still Christian, none of them ever claimed to be Satanists or Asatru.
Nazis were also not queer or disabled. They killed those groups, before they had a chance to kill almost anyone else actually. Despite the amount of disabled nazis or queer/queer coded nazis you'll see in movies and on TV, in reality they were very cishet and very able bodied. There was one high ranking nazi early on who was gay and the other nazis killed him for that. Saying the nazis were gay or disabled makes about as much sense as saying they were Jewish.
The nazis weren't mentally ill. As previously mentioned they hated disabled people, and this unquestionably included anyone neurodivergent. When the surviving nazi war criminals were given psychological tests after the war, they were shown to be some of the most neurotypical people out there.
The nazis weren't socialists. Full stop. They hated socialists. They got elected on hating socialists. They killed socialists. Hating all forms of lefitsm was a big part of their ideology, and especially a big part of how they sold themselves.
The nazis were not the supervillians you see on screen, not because they didn't do horrible things in real life, they most certainly did, but because they weren't that vague apolitical evil that exists for white American action heros to fight. They did horrible things because they had a right wing authoritarian political ideology, an ideology that is fundamentally the same as what most of the modern right wing believes.
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okletsgetnuts · 8 months
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Lenin had some fun and based things to say about religion
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islam-defined · 7 months
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Allah spread the Earth with provisions
Allah spread the earth, with the provisions, so that life could exists, for the living beings and that the life could continue smoothly with the provisions provided by Him. Allah declares:
“And after that We spread the earth (والأرض بعد ذلك دحاها ) , bringing forth its water and pastures, and setting the mountains firmly upon it, all as a means of sustenance for you and your animals” (79:30-33),  
“And the earth—We have spread it out. So how excellent are We the spreaders" (51:48),
“....And He is the One Who spread  out the earth, and placed firm mountains and rivers upon it, and created fruits of every kind in pairs.....” (13:3)
Now this verse is the hot cake for the critics, who misinterpreted by taking the word SPREAD in English from the translations only and propagates that Allah has made the Earth flat. If we read the whole verse whether in Arabic or the translations there is no ambiguity until we read the whole verse where Allah has clearly defined the purpose of spreading the Earth which is not physically Flat. Simple.
Dear critics its FLAT BY SIGHT BUT SPHERE BY OBSERVATION.
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والأرض بعد ذلك دحاها
أخرج منها ماءها ومرعاها
 والجبال أرساها
متاعا لكم ولأنعامكم
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little-witchys-garden · 10 months
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So many atheists are just as bad as Christians
I had a tiktok explaining how my uncle was atheist and used atheism as a excuse to abuse cis women and LGBT+ ppl because there was no god to stop him and how as a young child seeing his behavior was scary.
A athiest didn't like this and threatened my life for it.. Because I was talking
" crap about atheism"
And I quote because
" atheists aren't bad people"
Like.. Goodness I hate ppl sometimes
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themetabridge · 6 months
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I've always had a deep respect for those who find solace and a path toward compassion in their faith. In contrast, some use their faith as a bludgeon. A justification to isolate. To judge. To dominate and control.
I think most fundamentalists fall into this latter camp.
For those who don't know Paul and Morgan are Christian influencers. Morgan, at one point tried to a have a career in music. She struggled with depression and anxiety and claims she found Christ and serenity through her husband Paul. They now openly reject mainstream entertainment and the licentious ways of Hollywood and the music industry; maybe, as Harvey Weinstein and the string of sex scandals have shown us, not without some merit. Although personally, I do not believe that the cure for excess is deprivation.
In this video they address and have a dialog with more fundamentalists Christians about a very important topic:
IS TAYLOR SWIFT A WITCH?
Like a lot of their content, this premise is laughable.
Or would be if it hadn't taken hold so deeply among a small, powerful and increasingly aggressive minority of fundamentalist believers. Ignorance can be a weapon.
Paul and Morgan come down on the more progressive side of fundamentalistism "Taylor Swift is filled with evil, but not a witch that's ridiculous. And you can curse sometimes". The opposing view is much more hard line.
What struck me about this video is how much it reminded me, not of my own days at church but of similar debates I've had around the Dungeons and Dragons table. Arguing about the intentions and mental state of mindflayers, dragons or other mystical creatures of lore. Why? Because both are fundamentally exercises in imagination.
If the relationship these people have with God was genuine, or if the God they all claim to believe in was real wouldn't this debate be unnecessary? Wouldn't it be impossible? If the divine experience was truly a universal one, there would not be such a subjective fracturing of its experience. The divine and omnipotent would be felt universally, like fear or love or the taste of mint peppermint patties.
Instead it is divided into religions, which are divided into sects, which are divided into sub sects which are divided into petty informal fractional conflict like what we see here.
People can like or dislike the taste of mint peppermint patties. But all of us, when we taste one can identify it from some other flavor. In contrast the abstractions and stories we tell ourselves are infinitely fungible, perfectly subjective and completely at the mercy of our hidden psychology.
What I see when I watch these discussions between opposing camps of fundamentalism is not an uncovering of some obscured objective truth, but a conflict during a session of shared story telling. The same way I and my dorky friends might have a disagreement about whether a mindflayer should be susceptible to a charisma check, here is a group of people arguing about the rules of a game they all play in their heads.
This is not an inherently bad thing. The activity is social. It builds cohesion. It is necessary even. The conflict can sometimes be a happy one, filled with levity and the joy of that comes from elaborating on a shared frame of reference. Flirting is this kind of game. So is friendship. It's good for the soul.
The problem arises from the coercion. They are calling this woman a witch. This is a silly thing that can become dangerous quickly. A handsome YouTube couple discussing if someone is or isn't evil and or a witch doesn't pose a direct threat to anyone. But what if this shared story becomes widely accepted? Taken as truth and played for more than a joke? What if it is given some kind of actionable power?
We have the answer. It ends in the murder of women, the wretched and the socially isolated. We've seen it play out in cultural and historical context after cultural and historical context.
And there is nothing funny about a silly story told as the truth when someone's life is on the line.
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For humanity to be free we must kill our gods
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