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joyexe · 2 years
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shopcat · 1 year
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HI. this is the steve harrington autism post. source: i have the steve harrington style autism that makes me autistic about him
to preface this i would like to say i am working off of personal like interpretation and thru the lens of my own experience :0... also this is long lol <3 so, tl;dr, here are the autistic traits or things that are caused by autism i believe steve showcases, (except.. do read if you like <3):
sensory issues -> wearing only ever the same style of clothes, adjusting/touching his hair, (potentially) eating certain foods
stimming -> walking in place to think, fiddling with small objects, spinning/flipping/throwing objects to keep himself focussed or entertained, listening to music
scripting -> repeating phrases/words aloud and practicing what he's going to say, repeating the "plan" aloud
routine -> strict hair routine with specific steps, was in routine sports with strict rules/timing and enjoys them otherwise, driving robin to school every day without even knowing she couldn't bc it was routine, working jobs that require mindless but engaging tasks including organisation
poor grasp of social cues, especially with girls, and saying the "wrong" thing at the wrong time (including the 6 little nuggets speech, "he ate dustin's cat", confessing to robin, etc)
other people feeling like they have to tell him things he's "missed" socially (dustin telling him he likes robin, eddie telling him he likes nancy)
likes to set/follow rules and is upset when people deviate from them (i.e. max wanting to leave in s4)
out of-the-box/atypical/lateral thinking
delayed processing of thoughts/concepts/complicated subjects especially in high-intensity scenarios
picking up on small details (like background sounds in large areas or recognising something) that other people don't pick up on
fixating on certain things (hair, clothes/shoes, sports, etc)
high pain tolerance/sensory dysregulation (shaking off concussions/consistent, continued ability to function while severely injured)
inability to conceptualise his OWN mortality/safety and engaging in at risk situations with little thought other than instinct + making impulsive choices
developmental differences/delays (literally crawling backwards)
poor grades in school/not getting into college
trouble regulating emotion
poor self esteem due to feeling worthless :(
i also have adhd so i also keep this in mind a little and obv at the end of the day this is just my own interpretation + autism is a spectrum :) NOW. i will go into detail >:)
SOOO i'm not sure if steve was deliberately coded as autistic but i DO think they intentionally in one way or another coded him with a developmental disability of some kind!! which i will talk about first!!
this is shown particularly in season 2 in a couple different instances and continues into season 3 at undercurrent ..
we've discussed this a little before but i also think this is why when people like to just describe him as genuinely "dumb" it like hurts people's feelings 😭 my feelings... and that's not intentional ofc but while it is a personal insecurity of the character himself that is being ironically picked at, positively or not, by those who love him in fandom, it's also evident of something happening under the surface that people may be unaware of imo
i think he display a out of-the-box, atypical or lateral way of thinking combined with delayed processing in a way that is very typical to neurodivergent behaviour!! and more...
in season 2 we get a really nice little look into his psychology about it when nancy is reading his college admission essay (that he presumably asked her to do) and he's sitting there SO nervous and full of doubt and worked up about it he's like. basically twitching 😭
he says "it's crap i know" and nancy's like no it's not! and he's like "ugh it's not good..." sooo stressed out.. and nancy says it just needs some reorganising, which is INTERESTING!!! someone who is insecure in his own skills and inability to get his thoughts across in a succinct way + has good, complex ideas that translate poorly when he tries to explain it out loud or in text + a host of insecurities pre-rooted and explicitly about his own intellectual "failings" all = a very neurodivergent read of Steve Vs School i think
also, maybe a tangent, but: in that essay itself nancy says he starts by using one of his basketball games as a metaphor for his life, then he confuses the metaphor by comparing it to the war his grandfather was in. nancy says she doesn't see how they're connected and he's like "um. it connects because we both won" (i actually think she's being very sweet in this scene!! idg when ppl say she's mean here)
ik this wasn't the show's intention and just extrapolation but i find it really cool + interesting that there IS a war of some kind that steve could talk about that HE fought in, there is a description of high stakes combat where it's him VS them and he is the only one who now has to make this high stakes, risky choice, instead of playing it safe like he always does that relates directly to his life as a metaphor and he DOES feel connected to his grandfather in this sense...
but he can't actually talk about that. so it's basketball. and it's a slightly clunky metaphor that makes it seem like, trite, like oh silly steve, basketball isn't WAR. the essay itself is actually really well-written and evocative!! but to me signifies this inability to directly translate what he's thinking, hence it needs a little "rearranging", or maybe it's a little "all over the place" even
(also, that he crumpled up the entire essay and dismissed it entirely and fell back on nihilistic thinking and "i'll just work for my dad i guess". he already had cast disbelief upon his own ability to thrive because he feels he's not good enough :( )
his failing grades, which ended in not getting into college, tech or otherwise, is a big part of his post-highschool arc i think. to me it also shows sympathy to a problem many young neurodivergent (in every which way, btw) people face, including myself, and is potentially a really almost kind portrayal of the capability of a person not being wrapped up in their intellectual or i guess SCHOLASTIC endeavours and "achievements", and that you can be successful and "useful" to others in different ways :0
to call him dumb and really mean it (both in and out of show -_-) after all this is a certain kind of disservice i guess? like okay i think a little jokey joke is fine and also absolutely RELATING is fine (and another extension of another one of my points which is basically just "he's just like me fr" can actually = "he's JUST like me... like For Real". he's dumb in the way i'm dumb and we're both not actually dumb) but let's all be cool okayyyy
beyond school, i think he displays SOO many behaviours both characteristically and even like in his physicality that build to this beautiful conclusion... i think steve is this guy who was served up to be an initially one dimensional being who proved himself again and again to have a multitude of complexities beneath the surface :). i think his literal entire character arc is adjacent to the autistic experience LOL... perhaps...
he showcases a certain need and comfort in routine in a variety of ways, like:
being interested in sports both watching recreationally (which have timed matches and he HAS to be there on time, too) and as the hobby itself. sports are a high-routine activity with strict rules and rituals, before, after and during, as well as the extra work you have to put in otherwise!!
ESPECIALLY something like swimming, which is all about certain timing (and an individual-based sport as opposed to the team-based basketball) which he took for years!! (and actually got his cpr verification for, which you absolutely don't need to just like. be on the swim team. but it would be the "right" way to do it LOL) (also idk how it worked in 1980s fictional indiana but you need your verification a year in advance to actually do anything with it where i live!! which means he did it FROM freshman year)
driving robin to school every day, and then presumably picking her up for work sometimes too, despite not even knowing she COULDN'T drive herself because he was so dedicated to this routine (and friendship :D <3)
his hair routine!! it's SO specific (four puffs EXACTLY!!! no more no less... and when it's DAMP not WET) and i am honestly of the mind it's actually far more complex of a routine he even makes it out to be .. and i am willing to bet the multi step experience of it all is sooo long and has to be just as specific too. also extra points for it being something he does that aids in his own self-image and would make him feel like he's putting himself together.? so to speak
i think, in a way, that he owns about 9 pairs of shoes and most of them are white sports shoes with a colour accent + he's been shown to wear the colour accent that matches his outfit more often than not. which i spose is a certain kind of. ritual or routine or something.
he also shows a whole host of sensory issues/complexities/...things!!
he wears the same style of clothes like CONSTANTLY. almost everything he owns is either a soft sweater or a polo shirt, plus the same style of jacket he cycles through, all of which are well-worn (despite him being like, rich) :) the exception is that colourblock denim vest (which i think is the exception for him too because he just wanted to look like marty mcfly. which is so autistic)
i.e. wearing something that you know is comfortable over and over that doesn't give you a poor sensory experience, and continuing to buy the same style of clothing because you know it's safe to do so because he FEELS comfortable. super autistic trait. beloved prep trait as well i also just think he doesn't actually care what he wears but whatever
he also sometimes favours tight clothes and sometimes looser/baggier ones (think one day the s4 blue/white polo and jeans, the next a sweater and loose chinos) which indicates to me possible different sensory needs in the day by day...
he also wears a lot of undershirts, including with the scoops ahoy uniform (which could've been to avoid a POOR sensory experience)
he adjusts/runs his fingers through his hair and makes sure it's in a nice state at an almost compulsive level but it's also like an afterthought kind of. it could also just be a sensory thing to want to retouch his hair and play with it and follow through with the prior routine of it Looking Good + a grounding technique for sure
along with that he stims a LOT, including the thing where he has to twirl or throw ANYTHING in his hands up to and including -> a lighter, the baseball bat MIDFIGHT, a torch, a phone MIDFIGHT, his ice cream scooper, keys, his sailor hat, a banana, a random ball he found... he's also very fiddly and tends to sort of be happy sitting quietly and doing something over and over like that (this is also a trait with adhd :) )
the jobs he worked are relatively low intensity despite customer interaction and had him working with his hands plus at FV there's a lot of sorting/organisation. also "not my TAPES man" because he already sorted them and now it's ruined 😭
you tend to see him taking a little moment for himself in the background of scenes a lot, sometimes with robin as well!! he kind of just wanders off and does his own thing but in the wake of the high emotion, high adrenaline various combats in-show it makes sense, even more so if he just needs a little moment to himself to unwind
he walks/paces to think!!!
the reason he and robin only even threw up in season 3 is a) the stimulating lights he noticed that then b) over-stimulated them
this one's a little less obvious but he listens to the same kind of music and listens to it LOUDLY when he's stressed 😭 he also doesn't turn it off even if he like, technically should like on the way to fight monsters. i think he just likes music a lot tbh but also very autistic to me (and also a reason why he and eddie would be friends and/or kiss on the mouth)
one of the biggest things that sounds off to me is his social interactions :0 he is hailed as this like, ladies man but almost near constantly plummets to the earth in insane social blunder which personally i love actually (and it extends beyond these situations too!!). all the hottest boys are autistic...
i know that this is to show him just like, losing his charm...? and that he peaked in highschool or something and i do love his patheticness but it's also sooo autism. one of the reasons i actually think he's gay (lol) is his compulsive need to try and "land" a social interaction with a woman, then fail, while also not "feeling the spark" with the women he DID land and failing to see why (like his date at the basketball game). he's constantly seeking companionship but it feels like it's just out of his reach and he doesn't get it... sigh... and that it's definitely in part bc he feel he can't relate to them because HE'S so different i think. for whatever reason. multiple.
in season 3 the ENTIRE you rule/you suck board is like a beautiful shrine to this... he's honestly so funny . but like constantly awkwardly flirting and somehow saying the wrong thing every time whilst also not getting that they're Not responding to him until they like, leave, which is like. a statistical unlikelihood to me of times this can happen without something else going on in his little brain. i also like that he "invented" a makeout point bc that opens up the ability to just go um. let's go to skull rock. and the person would be like oh okay yes i am going to makeout with steve harrington.
beyond just girls or failed flirting or whatever a lot of his interactions with the kids or his other friends ping to me as having trouble with social cues and some accidental bluntness!! a FAVOURITE being -> "dart ate a cat?" "no. what? no." "what are you talking about? he ate mews" "who's mews?" "it's dustin's cat" "STEVE..." 😭😭 i love him. also him suggesting he could work his charm on the dean of the school and nancy being like... not that kind of charm.
oh another good moment for this is in the epilogue to season 3 actually like he's trying so hard to show he's seen Some movies (but only remembers the significant/stand out details) and then when robin's like can you give us a moment he's just like. Why. and does this funny little head shake movement. and robin does the steve -_- and he backs away kubrick staring... beautiful scene
he also falls victim i think to saying the wrong thing at the wrong time which is a lot of the time not necessarily his like FAULT ofc but suggests further little issues or . unalignmentd with social interaction. the entire 6 little nuggets speech to nancy to me is one of these situations (and maybe the convo in the woods with her?? idk) where he's kind of just talking and digging a hole and the other person is sort of just sitting there. it's also shown with like "like the germans?"
ALSO, a lot of the time people end up coming to him specifically and sort of like... telling him what to do/how HE feels?? and i think he just sort of goes along with it. in season 3 dustin tells him he has a crush on robin until he kind of talks himself into it and then he accidentally crash-fails for a second time by confessing to her at a sort of insane time as well (not that i think he actually had any feelings for her!!). and in season 4 eddie does the SAME with nancy which is almost spectacular.
alsoo while i think he struggles with certain social cues i also think he's very emotionally intelligent and he picks up on people's feelings easily which i guess someone could say it seems to counter? other autistic traits (silly) but to me i think. autistic people are aware of PLENTY of social cues sometimes the cue is just stupid -_- and i can read other people's emotions for sure in fact i'm almost like hyper attuned to it i just don't know how to RESPOND to it a lot of the time. whereas steve picks up on dustin's nerves at the snow ball and reassures him accordingly (and so cutely..), then picks up on robin's emotions after his confession and near-immediately course corrects after her confession in order to make her laugh!!! he was also really good with picking up on nancy's feelings and knowing exactly what to do about it/using forethought about it (like idk holding her hand when they were having sex or something to ease her nerves but also noticing she was upset at the library) when they were together at least 🤔
there are also a number of other various things very dear to me that i have no where else to include. LIKE:
his high pain tolerance!!! he's able to shake off torture, multiple concussions, various beatings with little to almost NO actual repercussions. in s4 it was actually really interesting how he was feeling bad enough to almost faint after the bats but once he was patched up he was "fine", and acted like he was fine for... the rest of the entire show. he did a backflip. high pain tolerance is an offshoot of a sensory dysregulation!!
specifically a lack of filter and moments where he goes "too far" especially when he's struggling with an emotional dysregulation of sorts, like with dustin in s4 or even with jonathan s1, but also like. the dumb faces he was making behind his date's back.
"when i was a baby, i crawled backwards"!!! autistic children can have different development i.e. their early CHILDHOOD development that can present itself in a variety of ways!! atypical to the norm crawling/walking is one of them (also matches up with robin taking 6 months longer to walk than other babies which she Also said to nancy and i think this is significant of something and i don't know what. maybe it's just funny. also stobin soulmates ofc).
to me, being the guy who mid plan debrief is the one saying "so let me get this straight" AND that he's the one asking the necessary questions to get everyone's minds (and in the 4th wall sense the literal plot) moving suggests that he both feels the need to want clarification of like, plans/instructions and what the situation is so everyone is caught up and he didn't get it wrong, and that just speaking it aloud helps cement it in his mind (which is also scripting as well i believe). also his ability to ask the RIGHT "wrong" questions suggests out of-the-box thinking as well (i would say both of these are also an adhd trait!)
his friendship with robin is honestly a point for me LOL. robin is an example of a character i do believe IS intentionally absolutely autistic coded, especially in season 4 but also 3, and his bond with her seems to be a personal one based in trust in each other and their own similarities... in season 4 when they're lamenting their love lives and say they should "just combine" is so important to me.. ugh
he's very particular and possessive about his belongings in an almost pedantic way (c'mon man not my SCOOPER! and wipe your feet before you get in my CAR and honestly even that he refuses to let max drive it fullstop, a little bit)
he also ate. SO many bananas at scoops i think for a time being it ended up being a safe food which literally happened to me as well. a very small thing but i like it
he scripts!! ie he repeats words and phrases aloud as a form of stimulation and getting himself to think or practices what he's going to say before things so he's "scripting" it (his "i'm sorry wtf am i sorry for" speech before he runs into dustin in s2)
he gets along better people who, by majority, aren't in his peer group i.e. the kids!!! and even robin and nancy were a little younger! he is very genuinely friends with the kids and it is Very Genuinely so sweet, but particularly with dustin too i found it sooo... <3
he also shows like these moments of high-intensity like silly child-like qualities of (autistic) joy LIKE when he sees dustin in scoops and they have their little lightsaber fight (which they. had practiced and made beforehand) that is just so sweet to me...
he picks up on things that other people don't!!! as the Normal Guy in a group of people he typically ends up settling in that role BUT he's multiple times picked up on small details that other people don't or DIDN'T notice, which is a neurodivergent trait!! he recognised the song in the russian recording, recalled where it came from like. right after + was the only one who heard dustin in the upside down + other things like noticing when someone's missing from a room
i also think he may be prone to like. i guess sensory overload/emotional dysregulation when he reacts what i think is appropriately to these HUGE scary scenarios but everyone else is like chill out and therefore it's inappropriate to them that he's losing his mind about it. but as time passes and he gets used to it all it lessens for sure (most evident in season 1) but there are moments where he struggles to reign in his truest reactions to things i think LOL. he is also just very dramatic tbf ☝️
his other vague neuroticisms but specifically commenting when things aren't Correct or Right or Safe including complaining about the sterility of the needle he was being injected with mid TORTURE
when he defaults to sports metaphors bc that's the easiest thing he can relate to in s2. god
100% of autistic people i talk to about this all go OH YEAH he's so autistic. tbh i think autistic people relating to a character can be enough of a diagnosis to me. peer diagnosis...
i just think so :)
in conclusion...
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I just read Mammon's The Guardian Demon devilgram. Adorable! Mammon is top tier dad. My mc will fight those witch and raise that girl in Devildom with her father as God (or whatever obey me verison of God is) intended! I need dad Mammon in my life right now. Does the game mention his daughter more in other stuff?
Also Imma punch Solomon in the face. Sometimes this game makes it really hard to like Solomon. Why is he written to go out of his way to put down Mammon!? Yes, all of his brothers do it, but at least they know him and care about him when they're not being shitheads to each other. Why does Solomon have so much beef with Mammon? I'm not saying he can't, because everyone does. But idk it feels more aggressive when it comes from Solomon. Maybe it's because I haven't seen much of his character aside from the devilgrams and pop quizzes.
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Yes!! Definitely one of my favourite devilgrams! Outside of the Devilgram they mention her in S1 and in S3, I believe, Mammon mentions the three witches and going up to the human world frequently to meet them
Okay so about Solomon,
-> He thinks in a very practical way rather than an emotional way and, though his constant smile and upbeat attitude may not show it, he's rather cynical (the complete opposite of Mammon). We see this a lot in Nightbringer, where he's constantly preparing for a fight between the human world and other two realms and is heavily skeptical when MC talks about making the other two realms see humans as equals without it leading to a fight.
-> He talks about how demons (and angels) look down on humans and about wanting to make them see humans as equals but he himself seems to see demons as lesser than humans. He somewhat admits this in s3? s4? where he says he only started seeing demons as friends recently. But even this doesn't stop him from collecting them and trying to use them as weapons against their own people if he needs to
-> Solomon has lived a long time and it's made him very stuck in his belief that demons (and angels) see humans as lesser beings and nothing, other than proving it wrong through force, will change that. Even though we do see the attitudes of demons changing slowly throughout s1-4 with Diavolo's pilot exchange program
-> Solomon doesn't really have any family members or even close friends when he's first introduced in S1. The closest people to him are Asmo, Barbatos and Thirteen and we already know that he didn't see the demons he had pacts with as friends until recently. So that just leaves Thirteen, with whom he has a very atypical friendship. They care about each other but they wouldn't put each other before anything else. He doesn't seem to have the best understanding on what typical (specially familial) relationships are like. This is why Solomon initially believes that MC, being human, would be like him and pick the safety of humanity over their loved ones. When almost any average human would tell you that they'd pick their loved ones over countless faceless strangers - something even Nightbringer knew
So Mammon's whole deal with the witches for the sake of some human child probably made him very skeptical. And so he tries to break it down to something that's more understandable to him, something that fits within his belief system
Eg: "Oh she's not excited to see Mammon because she sees him like a family member she just has a silly little kiddie crush on him"
^ Which is an insane thing for him to say, specially when both Mammon and MC (two of the most emotionally intelligent characters in om!) instantly pick out the fact that the girl sees Mammon as a father figure
But Solomon interprets it like a crush because crushes make sense. You can have a crush on a demon, specially if they helped you out. Hell, there are demons specifically there for you to have crushes on like Asmo and the succubi and incubi. But for a demon and a human to see each other as family? That's strange
Anyway Solomon is such a complex and interesting character, there's just so much you can unpack there, but I tried to keep this short as possible
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impatient14 · 7 months
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Why is this narrative coming so hard for Cory?! I know this season's arc is actually setting him (and his relationship with Bradley) up really well for S4, but can't he just see a moment of happiness now? And the spoilers suggest it's only going to get worse! And don't get me started on Laura...
There's only been one other time I preferred the m/f ship over the f/f ship (Atypical). As a queer woman, I'm desperate for good f/f content, but I'm not going to pretend that Laura is a good match for Bradley just because she's a woman. Sorry. No. Laura is a total badass who deserves to be happy, but that character is not Bradley's happily ever after. She's too elitist, too judgemental. And this is a deal breaker for someone like Bradley, for someone who grew up like she did, for someone who loves like she loves. Someone like Cory. That's how I know Cory and Bradley are endgame. The fact that Bradley and Laura got back together makes me all the more positive that Cory and Bradley will end up together. They made sure Laura's reintroduction included a legit non-homophobic reason for their relationship not to work, so that when they breakup it feels organic. People will still bitch about not getting a f/f endgame, which is fair, but Laura isn't right for Bradley. (Hell, I'd read the fuck out of some femaleCory fics. That sounds great!!)
I just want to fast-forward to when they're happy again. Can we do that??
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castielsparkle · 11 months
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s4 so far is like. early s4 dean voice OH GREAT angels are real sammy! should we throw a party?! should we invite GOD?! *gestures hands. grumbles. stomps away and slams door behind him. he is immediately greeted by his gay angel companion phasing into his direct line of vision bc it sensed dean was stressed out* early s4 cas voice Dean You Have To Calm Down You Need To Fight For God. Ok. I Sense You Are Looking At Me But Not Listening To My Words That Live Inside Of My Mouth. Dean. Your Blood Pressure Is Atypical Right Now But Its Probably Fine Youre A Special Boy But Also Normal . [2 minutes of eyescissoring ensue where it feels like 2 hours] Well. Bye Dean I Have To Go Away. Maybe Next Time I Will Put You In My Mouth Or Something So You Absorb My Words Like a Frog and Water When Its Thirsty. dean goice. ?🏳️‍🌈what. cas voice . [floats away]
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proud-mama-joyce · 2 years
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I know a lot of us in this fandom have gaybaiting trust issues with our media, so I think it’s time for another recap of what we know. Mainly sticking to the most recent information, we have:
Will has a crush, according to the official character descriptions released on the Netflix Tudum website.
In the interview in Spanish that was released yesterday, Noah brought up the idea of a “love triangle” being a recurring element across seasons. “Love triangle” has a 1:1 translation in Spanish, so there is little chance of a miscommunication here. He didn’t tie it to Will directly in this statement, but it came to mind when asked about the Hawkins/California character separation. And…
Noah has repeatedly described Will as a “third wheel” around Mike and El this season, and on at least one occasion phrased it as “a third wheel between Mike and Eleven.” Third-wheeling is usually unpleasant because the couple pays more attention to each other than to the third person. “Between” is atypical phrasing and inconsistent with the idea of being ignored.
El and Mike are going to have some “real relationship issues” this season, according to Millie.
Will has a lot of scenes in the Surfer Boy Pizza van this season (with Mike), according to his interview.
The acting and directing choices made with Will in yesterday’s clip read as “gay” to many viewers in the general fandom, at least judging by initial reactions in non-Byler discussion spaces (such as the frequently anti-Byler Stranger Things subreddit). If the reaction was this instant, it’s unlikely the implications were missed by its creators. So in all likelihood, this perception was intentional. It also follows a long line of hints that Will is gay.
Noah has said in the past that this season is “unexpected” and “romantic.”
The long list of new S4 characters we received a while back includes some minor characters, increasing the chances that it’s a comprehensive list. However, it does not include any characters in the California setting that are around Will’s age, other than school bullies.
Mike is “finding himself” this season, according to Finn.
Also still relevant: Mike and Will are looking at each other in the S4 poster. Their relationship is going to be important for the season, and it does not appear to be overshadowed by conflict by the end.
So if Will has a crush, he’s gay, AND he’s in a love triangle with Mike and El…Mike is the only option that makes sense.
Would the character description include Will’s crush if it wasn’t significant to his storyline in S4?
Would Noah describe an unrequited storyline involving his best friend as “romantic”?
Why choose to have Mike return Will’s gaze in the poster, if their feelings are mismatched and significant time is spent exploring Will’s crush?
We don’t have to wait much longer to find out, I think. 😊
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simply had to review the whole series via tier list 🤓
S: recommended to everyone I know - especially if you trust my taste in stories - because it impacted me profoundly at a tender young age, it was shockingly effective by this show's standards, and it somehow managed to stand the test of time. season 2 alone. 👑
A: the other cream of the crop seasons in terms of emotional impact and setting. seasons 1 (if you want to smile) and 4 (if you want to rip all your hair out).
B: mixed-bag seasons that are a notch above the C-tier seasons in that the viewing experience feels atypically cohesive, as in the case of season 6 - and if not, as in the case of season 3: the good episodes are good enough to make it memorable overall.
C: seasons that introduced or leaned too heavily on some of this show's worst story elements (Chuck, meta comedy, creation myth fanfiction, angel politics, time travel, goofy-ass monsters like the leviathans) but that contained enough substance to be otherwise engaging (samndean facing their destinies as opposing vessels to Lucifer and Michael, Sam's Cage trauma, samndean's conflict over Amelia and Benny, the Trials arc, the Gadreel arc, Jack's introduction and his early bond with Sam). seasons 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, and 13. obviously if I were to give the series as a whole a rating decoupled from my intense emotional attachment to it I'd give it a C.
D: what I consider the dumpster fire seasons. unwatchable if you aren't already fucking insane about this show, and even then they verge on excruciating. unfocused, bogged down by bewilderingly not-good writing by the likes of my faves Eugenie Ross-Leming and Brad Buckner, balls-to-the-wall ridiculous sometimes. seasons 10, 12, 14, and 15. 13 would be here too if it didn't feature the strongest start of any season of this show since s4. I also feel the need to clarify that 10 would be in the C tier had the writers done anything remotely interesting with Dean's short-lived demon arc or his MOC arc - both loaded with potential but pathetically anticlimactic and redundant onscreen. 12 is buoyed by a select few standout episodes but the British MOL arc is so unforgivably awful that I can't rank it higher overall. 14 is my absolute least favorite season of this entire show because it shoves Sam into a back corner for arcs that are painfully relevant to his character... like, notably worse than the rest of the series does.
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aemiron-main · 2 years
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hihi, id just like to say its neat you're talking about mike's food issues, i've been thinking of it for a bit but have really only seen one post before now, so. idk thanks for talking about it <3
(main of @mike-wheeler-faggotry)
hi there!!!! thank you!!! i'm glad that people are open to me talking about it, because seriously, i think that brushing over the clear signs of an ED, even just when it comes to analyzing media, is a one-way ticket to missing the signs when it comes to people around you irl. My analysis of mike's behaviour is intended to help understand him as a character, but also intended to highlight how EDs are NOT one size fits all, especially since at my worst, i didn't even realize I had one, because of how they're often incorrectly portrayed/the stereotypes surrounding them (and my own denial). Brushing over the subject/ignoring what's clearly shown in the show in regards to mike and food just continues to stigmatize atypical disordered behaviour, like mike's. mike's behaviour with food does NOT align with the typical shallow portrayal of solely appearance-based disorders, especially since mike's has nothing to do with his appearance, and imo, just like the duffers turn other tropes on their head, they're doing the same here. Just in the same way that I see myself reflected in mike and will as a MLM dude, i also see my own eating behaviour reflected in mike, and just like how i wish i had recognized the signs of internalized homophobia (mike), i wish myself or someone else had recognized the sublte, non-stereotypical signs of an ed before it became more severe. This show deals with topics of depression, suicide, anxiety, grief- why should eating disorders be stigmatized and unaddressed? Should we not address max's suicidal thoughts? Should we not address the subtle signs of suicidal ideation that max exhibits in early s4? The withdrawal from people she cares about? The nightmares? Because it's the same with mike. Just like how adressing the subtle signs of suicidal ideation can help people recognize it before it gets worse, addressing the subtle signs of the beginning of an ED can help people recognize it before it gets worse. And that's why i think it's important to talk about.
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and the day after that, too by @rebelrayne Rated T (complete)
intertwined series by @aislinnstanaka Rated T
little tolly by @whatisreggieshortfor Rated T (complete)
part of our world by @/rebelrayne Rated T (complete)
room raiders (ep 4) by @/whatisreggieshortfor Rated T (complete)
tom's game by @mrsbsmooth Rated E (complete)
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11:59pm by @/rebelrayne Rated T (complete)
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atypical by nacey Rated M (wip)
everything else is enthusiasm by @/mrsbsmooth Rated E (complete)
replay by @/rebelrayne Rated T (wip)
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fandom masterlist
so i'm def not taking credit for this idea, i've just seen it a lot from other users and mutuals and i love it <3. so below i have kinda built it so the fandoms are separated by category (international shows, american & british shows, anime, mid-range shows, books, and musicals — i have also included k-pop as another separate category)and i promise will try to keep this up to date. i might add reviews and top ships later but i'm not about to bite off more than i can chew so here you go :)
*pls note: this list is NOT in any particular order.*
International:
the untamed/mo dao zu shi
live-action show status: finished
show status: watched ep 1-5
book status: finished
fav character: wei wuxian/wei ying
word of honor/faraway wanderers
show status: finished
book status: TBR
fav character: wen kexing
scum villain’s self-saving system
show status: watched only ep 1
book status: currently awaiting v4
fav character: luo binghe
not me
show status: finished
book status: TBR
fav character: yok
kinnporsche
show status: s1-watched, s2-coming
book status: TBR
fav character: pete
la casa de papel/money heist
show status: finished
fav character: berlin and/or nairobi
dark
show status: s1&2-watched, s3-have not watched
fav character: jonas kahnwald
young royals
show status: s1-watched, s2-coming
fav character: simon
the extraordinary attorney woo
show status: s1-watched, s2-coming
fav character: lee jun-ho
American/British:
supernatural
status: finished
fav character: castiel
good omens
show status: s1-watched, s2-coming
book status: read about half
fav character: crowley
our flag means death
show status: s1-watched, s2-coming
fav character: lucius and/or edward teach
barry
show status: s1&2-watched, s3- only watched ep1
fav character: noho hank
the sandman
show status: s1-watched, waiting for announcement of s2
fav character: dream or hob gadling
stranger things
show status: s1-3-watched, s4- watched through ep 5
fav character: steve harrington, eddie munson, and will byers
killing eve
show status: s1-3-watched, s4- watched only ep1-3 (spoiled so ik what happens and i’m not happy about it)
fav character: villanelle
gentleman jack
show status: s1-watched, s2- have not watched
fav character: anne lister
the wilds
show status: s1-watched, s2-watched first ep
fav character: toni
shameless
show status: s1-4-watched, s5- watched only ep 1&2
fav character: ian gallagher
the flight attendant
show status: s1-watched, s2-have not watched
fav character: annie
tiny pretty things
show status: finished
fav character: shane
chilling adventures of sabrina
show status: s1-watched, s2-4-have not watched
fav character: ambrose
roswell, new mexico
show status: s1-3-watched, s4-haven't watched
fav character: alex manes
atypical
show status: s1-3-watched, s4-watched half so far
fav character: casey
the boys
show status: s1-3-watched, s4-coming
fav character: frenchie
the witcher
show status: s1&2-watched, s3-coming
book status: TBR
fav character: jaskier
umbrella academy
show status: s1&2-watched, s3-watched only ep 1
fav character: klaus hargreeves
love, victor
show status: s1&2 watched, s3-watched first half
fav character: benji
heartstopper
show status: s1-watched, s2&3-coming
book status: read book 1
fav character: nick nelson
the vampire diaries
show status: finished
book status: have not read
fav character: damon salvatore
the secret circle
show status: finished
book status: read only book 1
fav character: adam conant
russian doll
show status: s1- watched, s2- have not watched
fav character: nadia
dead to me
show status: s1-watched, s2-watched half
fav character: judy hale
the sinner
show status: finished (so far)
fav season: s3
sherlock
show status: finished (so far)
fav character: sherlock holmes
i am not okay with this
show status: finished
fav character: sydney
black mirror
show status: s1-4-watched, s5-have not watched
fav episode: san junipero
the politician
show status:s1-watched, s2- watched up to ep 4
fav character: river barkley
santa clarita diet
show status: s1&2-watched, s3-have not watched
fav character: joel
only murders in the building
show status: s1-watched, s2-coming
fav character: oliver
big sky
show status: s1- watched, s2-have not watched
fav character: cassie dewell
sons of anarchy
show status: finished
fav character: tara
little fires everywhere
show status: finished
book status: finished
fav character: izzy richardson
schitt’s creek
show status: finished
fav character: david
criminal minds
show status: watched all of s1-4, scattered through the rest
fav character: spencer reid and/or aaron “hotch” hotchner
iZombie
show status: s1-4-watched, s5-have not watched
fav character: lowell and/or ravi
bonding
show status: finished
fav character: pete
american vandal
show status: finished
fav character: sam ecklund
locke & key
show status: s1&2-watched, s3-coming
fav character: kinsey locke
dexter
show status: s1-8-watched, s9-watched up to ep 3 (ik what happens)
book status: read part of book 1
fav character: dexter morgan
the white lotus
show status: s1-watched, s2- coming
fav character: armond
shadowhunters
show status: s1-watched
fav character: magnus bane
(books series below)
law & order: svu
show status: scattered episodes
fav character: olivia benson
westworld
show status: s1&2-watched, s3&4-have not watched
fav character: maeve
Anime:
death note
show status: finished
fav character: L
devil is a part-timer!
show status: finished
fav character: sadao maou
blue exorcist
show status: s1-watched
fav character:  rin okumura
ouran high school host club
show status: s1-watched, s2-coming
fav character: tamaki suoh
vampire knight
show status: finished
fav character: kaname kuran
erased
show status: finished
fav character: satoru fujinuma
Mid-range shows:
voltron legendary defender
show status: finished
fav character: keith kogane
she-ra and the princess of power
show status: finished
fav character: catra
miraculous ladybug
show status: s1&2-watched, s3-watched some, lost where i was, s4- not watched
fav character: adrien agreste
carmen sandiego
show status: s1-watched, s2-4-have not watched
fav character: carmen
Books: (only listing some not my entire “read” list)
carry on (series)
status: finished (so far?)
fav character: baz pitch
the infernal devices (series)
status: finished
fav character: will herondale
the mortal instruments (series)
status: finished
fav character: magnus bane
red, white & royal blue
status: finished
fav character: prince henry
the seven husbands of evelyn hugo
status: finished
fav character: harry cameron
simon vs. the homo sapiens agenda (series)
status: finished
fav character: simon spier
a good girl’s guide to murder (series)
status: finished
fav character: ravi singh
hush, hush (series)
status: finished
fav character: scott
this is how you lose the time war
status: finished
fav character: blue
we were liars
status: finished (have not yet read the prequel)
fav character: gat
youngblood
status: currently reading
fav character: taylor sanger
Musicals: (movie versions included)
falsettos
fav character: whizzer
fav song: four jews in a room bitching
dear evan hansen
fav character: connor murphy
fav song: words fail / sincerely, me
be more chill
fav character: michael
fav song: the smartphone hour
book of mormon
fav character: elder price & elder mckinley
fav song: turn it off / i believe
heathers
fav character: veronica
fav song: dead girl walking (reprise)
wicked
fav character: elphaba
fav song: for good
mean girls
fav character: janis ian
fav song: revenge party
tick tick...boom! (the movie)
fav character: jonathan larson
fav song: 30/90
chicago (the movie)
fav character: velma
fav song: cell block-tango
the prom (the movie)
fav character: alyssa & trent
fav song: love thy neighbor
james and the giant peach
fav character: earthworm
fav song: plump and juicy
<<K-Pop>>
Stray Kids
Bias(es): Felix & Hyunjin
MONSTA X
Bias(es): Kihyun & I.M
Onlyoneof
Bias(es): Yoojung & Nine
BTS
Bias(es): Jimin
ITZY
Bias(es): Yeji
Ateez:
Bias(es): Wooyoung & San
NCT DREAM
Bias(es): Haechan
LE SSERAFIM
Bias(es): Yunjin
Xdinary Heroes:
Bias(es): Gaon & Jungsu
Enhyphen
Bias(es): Jungwon
P1Harmony
Bias(es): Keeho & Theo
SEVENTEEN
Bias(es): Hoshi & Woozi
TXT
Bias(es): Taehyun
FIFTY FIFTY
Bias(es): Sio
EVERGLOW
Bias(es): Yiren & Mia
(more coming i swear there’s just so much to update!!)
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lagaans · 9 months
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finally watching atypical s4 and like . izzieee my beloved and best friend izzie i missed her so much 🫶🏼
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fatoujallovv · 2 years
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last updated on: january 17th 2023
about me :)
ellie | they/them
i track #tusersunflower !!!!
all my prev urls: something-like-a-sunflower > sunflowerlallemant > earthlingeliott > ottelu
i tag triggers as tw [trigger] like this: tw flashing
pls feel free to dm me or send me an ask if i ever need to add a trigger to a post!
media you can tag me in:
skamverse: skam og s3 and s4, druck s3 s5 and s6, skam france s3, skam nl
other shows: heartstopper, stranger things, willow (2022), young royals, the good place, schitt’s creek, sex education, atypical, wednesday, the umbrella academy, a league of their own, the owl house, the haunting of bly manor, doctor who (i’ve watched ten and eleven so far), a series of unfortunate events (the netflix show), over the garden wall, the society (rip 😔)
movies: everything everywhere all at once, the fear street trilogy, the old guard, luca, tangled
music i like: dayglow, COIN, valley, harry styles, one direction, djo, MUNA, half•alive, troye sivan, dodie, dua lipa, conan gray, lil nas x, hayley kiyoko, rina sawayama, queen, abba, elton john, the beatles, bowie, lennon stella, clairo, fleetwood mac, hozier, prince, alfie templeman, landon conrath, wallows, remi wolf
books: heartstopper, loveless, rwrb, one last stop
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femsanzo291 · 1 year
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Podcasts all exist in the same universe.
Me and one of my friends have seen a lot of posts about this and we started looking into the podcasts that we have listened to. My incoherent ramblings below the read more. Spoilers for tagged fandoms to follow.
Welcome to Night Vale - It is the glue for this whole connection, with both time and space being a little wrong in the early stuff. If there is something weird we can link it back to Night Vale leaking crap. Atypicals couls have leaked out of Night Vale.
The Magnus Archives - Not only does time get weird near the end, but we also dimension jump. But even before I'm pretty sure that some of the Avatars would work with other organizations in this list such as StrexCorp, Goddard and the AM.
Wolf 359 - Rose mentioned that she had been in someone's mind that was afraid of ducks, which just brought me to Jacobi. And it isn't like Goddard wouldn't work with the AM. Also I can see the entities helping Cutter stay alive, and maybe the Lukas' are part of the whole thing with the Hephaestus.
Penumbra Podcast - Going to focus on Junoverse due to what happened on the end of s4 of Second Citadel. But Pryce's inventions can easily be the basis of the protistic, specially the THEIA, or Buddy's eye. Also early space travel from Wolf. And what Night Vale calls the Blood Space War could be the Galactic Civil War.
The Bright Sessions - Seeing as we know Carlos has seen some odd things before coming to Night Vale it may have been Atypicals. How Eiffel lost his memory isn't quite normal and they may look into a therapist for him.
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