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pend4ri · 3 months
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" - So what do you recommend to encourage affection...?
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- Dancing.
Even if one's partner is barely tolerable."
:) 💙
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tossawary · 4 months
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I think one thing that makes Jane Austen AUs (Ex: "Pride & Prejudice" AUs or "Persuasion" AUs and so on) for different fandoms difficult to pull off well is that these romances are set in very particular times, places, and family situations. There are very particular social rules at play depending on class and gender and levels of wealth.
Which isn't to say that you can't do a modern adaptation AU fanfiction (there are definitely modern adaptations of Austen's work that are pretty good) or that you can't do an Austen AU set in a completely different historical period and country for your fandom, I just think that it's important to be aware of the social dynamics and financial statuses and how integral they are to the plots. If you run through the exact same story beats as "Pride and Prejudice", without similar motivating forces for the characters, then I think you run the risk of the plot feeling contrived. (Not that anyone is obligated to deconstruct and reconstruct, exploring new elements and themes based on new settings, to an academic level for their fanfiction, because that's a lot of work if you're just after comfort.)
If you put a financially independent male character into the role of Anne Elliot in your "Persuasion AU", then that changes things slightly, even if you're keeping the element of the awful and self-centered Elliot family to push your Anne around the story. Which is fine! I just think it's important to be aware of what you're changing, even if you ultimately decide to sacrifice an original element for the sake of a different element specific to your story.
I think this is true for a lot of AUs taking their plots from somewhere else, it's just most apparent with things like Austen where the shape of society and how it has shaped the characters matters so much. Mimicking and translating Austen's work is hard! Let's be fair: professional film adaptations mess this stuff up all the time!
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redwolf17 · 9 months
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So I just read Persuasion for the first time last weekend and oh my GOD I am fucking feral about it. The sharp asides! The social commentary on class and outer presentation versus inner character! The ABSOLUTE ANGSTY PERFECTION that is Anne/Frederick!!! I went through the entire Ao3 tag and watched the 1995 movie twice, and I STILL cannot get over it!
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heohl-art · 3 months
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Setting them in Pride and Prejudice is a compulsory step, they say🫢
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• You have bewitched me, body and soul. •
So, the thing is, this started out as a quick sketch while I was waiting for the tea to get a little more cold, but I'm afraid I got carried away😅 The problem is that I now want to draw at least two more artworks for P&P, help me!
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agentmilayawithshield · 3 months
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Brain with Floppy Disk storage capacity
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anghraine · 5 months
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petty ranting about the LOTR movies
I've been in various fandoms where an ostensibly "faithful" adaptation was frequently held up as the One True Version of the text, the author's vision brought to life, the one nothing could ever compare to and the reason no others should ever be made, how is it possible to envision the characters or interpretations of them differently blah blah blah. (1995 P&P fandom is very frequently like this, sometimes Faith and Fear fans are, esp wrt The Borgias, etc.)
But I'm not sure I've ever seen an adaptation so uncritically adored by so many as the Jackson LOTR movies. I don't think any fandom is so insistent on an adaptation as people are insistent on the movies as the one true version of Middle-earth, even where they're radically different. Even when people agree with criticisms, it's been really noticeable that people often also add disclaimers about how they love the movies, they're perfect in almost every way, they're super faithful apart from this thing, of course the reason for [choice that was made] was understandable it's just that... etc.
And the thing is, I may hate some of the interpretations in other allegedly faithful adaptations. Like, speaking of the 1995 P&P, I dislike a lot about it and its influence on popular perception of what P&P is, of what adaptation should look like, of the brooding version of my fave hero Darcy, and so on. But I do understand why it's often held up as a faithful adaptation.
It uses a lot of the original text (though it can be subtly or glaringly different in execution), it's able to blur the lines between its own inventions and material from the text in a way that's often convinced audiences that things from the adaptation are actually in the novel, and it's more successful at doing this than any other Davies version of Austen IMO, it has a very convincing cast, blahblah. Like, I disagree that it is as faithful as it's reputed to be (by a long ways), but I get why it has that reputation, at least.
But I genuinely find Jackson's LOTR so different from the book! The movies certainly draw from it in significant ways, but dialogue is heavily altered or manufactured, motivations and characterization are simplified, altered, or just outright transformed into something entirely different, themes are shifted around, the structure is seriously changed (something Tolkien specifically did not want to happen), the relatively compact battles in the book are turned into big action set pieces taking up major swaths of screen time, a lot of the lore is heavily contracted, changed, or simply absent where it casts heavy shadows over the dynamics in the book, and oh yeah, they manage to be even more racist.
Some of this (not the racism) is defensible even if I don't personally agree w/ those defenses in a lot of cases. But there are a ton of differences between them! And you can talk about the films as their own thing cinematically and that's its own discussion. But the conflation of the movies with the actual things Tolkien actually wrote is even more widespread and absolute and annoying than with things like the 1995 P&P, with not half as much reason for it.
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m0st-ard3ntly · 5 months
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Second Impressions (AO3)
It is a truth universally acknowledged that Mr. Sirius Black did not leave a good first impression on Remus Lupin. Yet, as conversations in candlelit ballrooms happen, Remus wonders about Mr. Black’s true nature, behind the snobbish facade.
Or, two regency era idiots circle each other almost crashing together but never quite.
I finished my labour of love, my first ever fanfic! I would love it if you checked it out :)
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creekfiend · 8 months
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I think something which persistently bothers me about Austen is the idea that being tedious or annoying or witless are flaws which merit mockery
like. the 'bad guys' will mock Jane for having a low family or whatever and this is bad
but the 'good guys' fairly frequently mock people for being like, harmlessly tiresome or silly.
which I actually personally find tiresome in itself
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artigas · 1 month
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imo, many of jane austen's novels do not easily lend themselves to generously queer readings but i do think there's something intrinsically queer about women writing romance novels. like, conceptually. jane austen was a woman writing novels that were being primarily consumed by women. this reality of the romance genre has not changed. and yet, when you think about it, romance novels that center on relationships between men and women are abstractions by women for other women's pleasure.
the most beautiful (and sometimes heartbreaking) aspect of romance novels, fanfiction, and other forms of writing associated with women and queer people is how generously they characterize men. i mean, just take a second to compare the stories women tell about men to the stories men tell about each other. we live in a world that beats emotion out of men. we live in a world that teaches them that love, affection, and vulnerability are defects, not gifts. but in pride and prejudice, darcy is a man who betters himself after lizzie rejects him and he does so with no expectation of romantic reciprocity. he changes because he loves her and because loving her in the way she deserves requires self-betterment. in emma, mr knightly volunteers to absolve himself of land and property because he knows that emma's happiness is intrinsically linked to caring after her (imo, disabled and/or disability-adjacent) father and that their marriage would necessitate that emma abandon him. instead, knightly denounces what is socially and legally entitled to him because her supreme happiness is infinitely more important.
in romances, men are generous with love. they speak in poetic terms. in all of austen's novels, she gives men the most romantic and immortalized lines ("if i loved you less, i might be able to speak about it more", "in vain I have struggled, you must allow me to tell you how ardently I admire and love you"). in these stories, men love tenderly, to the point where love might very well be their unmaking. i cannot tell you how many fanfictions i've read where men cry during sex or where they yearn to the point of heartache.
so many romances are a matter of women imagining men behaving in a way that is more in keeping with feminine socialization (except, of course, that's bullshit. women aren't inherently more attuned to emotions or expressions of love. with these stories, we're imagining men allowing themselves the full breadth of human experience, gender norms be damned). in our stories, we imagine men for all they could be. these fantasies are so generous. they're so kind. they imagine more for men in fiction than some men imagine for themselves in real life.
i worry this makes absolutely zero sense. but i think there's something queer about that. there's something queer about a woman offering a fantasy of a man who can behave, feel, and speak in ways that are more associated with women. and there's something queer about women saying: this is the fantasy of a man that would melt me. i know it isn't real. i know such men are nearly impossible to find. i'm offering this to you anyway, so we can delight in this projection together.
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was reading pride and prejudice and couldn't help but make the connection
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fictionadventurer · 2 years
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Some Underrated Things In Jane Austen's Novels:
Catherine Morland's arc of learning how the world really works while showing that her innocence and honesty are good, worthwhile things
Henry Tilney's arc of overcoming cynicism and learning how to finally stand up to his abusive father
Mrs. Jennings, the vulgar and embarrassing but kind and generous woman
Elinor and Colonel Brandon's friendship
Marianne teasing Edward
Charles Bingley: the Ideal Gentleman who is kind, generous, friendly, and smart, whose only flaw is that he's too willing to give people the benefit of the doubt and thus doubts his judgement sometimes
Fanny Price: The Strongest Female Character in all of Austen
Anne Elliot's and Charles Musgrove's friendship. Actually, the way that all the Musgroves appreciate Anne and she enjoys their company
The deep friendship between Wentworth, Harville and Benwick
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sarahreesbrennan · 2 months
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Happy Villaintine’s Day: a love letter
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Happy Villaintine’s Day! Behold fancy Orbit valentines just for you & the evildoers in your life. In the spirit of the day, I want to talk about love.
I see people make fun of others for loving fictional characters and being a fan of fictional worlds - in a way nobody makes fun of, say, football fans. And yet we’re not causing riots, but getting our beloved shows renewed, revolutionising publishing, and making modern myth.
In my worst times, imaginary lands and people have cheered me, comforted me, kept me company, and seeing others love on imaginary characters and lands inspired me to write Long Live Evil. When I was trying to write and thinking ‘what’s the point’ I would come on tumblr to read essays about A Song of Ice and Fire, The Lord of the Rings, Six of Crows, the Locked Tomb, The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation, Jane Austen. Meta about their favorite characters and why they were misunderstood, or should get with this other character, or how it could all have gone differently. I’ve read things on here that made me cry, and that’s what it’s all about: stories you love so much they feel real.
Rock on, lovely lovers of story. We live a hundred lives, know a hundred joys, and love so hard we make imagination seem like reality. And that has such power it could take over a kingdom. Or two.
So, that’s my Valentine to fans. If you’d like another such valentine, pray preorder Long Live Evil.
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ljones41 · 5 months
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Why is it that so many "LOST" fans (but not all) are reluctant to admit that Kate Austen had committed a crime by pretending to be Aaron Littleton's biological mother? Even after she had first learned about his grandmother's existence some six to seven months after leaving the island? Why is it so important to them to pretend that Kate (and the rest of the Oceanic Six by extension) had done nothing wrong by maintaining such an unnecessary and selfish lie?
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skatiet · 26 days
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renabooksandart · 1 year
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one of my fore-edge paintings :)
I just love love love pride and prejudice, it's my comfort read and I have to re-read it at least once a year!
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anghraine · 7 months
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I love Austen's novels, obviously, but I do find the kind of worshipful, defensive takes from the fandom and some academia really frustrating. Yes, there are some really obnoxious Austen anti-fans and there are some bad faith or short-sighted or just extremely flawed criticisms. But.
There's quite a bit in Austen that I find bizarre and unexpected, even accounting for the differences of time and culture. It's uncomfortable in a way that I mostly find interesting. And I think some parts of fandom are in such a rush to defend her honor or stature that the fascinating oddities in her work—especially her work outside of P&P—get sanded down in the discourse around her.
Sometimes it's just like ... #keepaustenweird, you know? It's okay for the canon pairing or random asides or whatever to be genuinely strange.
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