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piebingo · 4 months
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Ayub being there in this scene is actually giving me life?? I love this friendship and I hope this means more of him and Wille too. And emotional support for Simon because I’m sure boy will need all of it.
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omar-bb · 4 months
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"The only one who can decide what you wanna do is you."
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waltybrainrot · 4 days
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first and last appearances
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(i am so sorry madison but getting a flattering ss of the last scene was impossible)
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(thanks for this idea @zee-has-commitment-issues)
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sflow-er · 2 months
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Happy Friends' Day!
Today is Valentine's Day in most parts of the world, but in my country, the focus is actually on friends instead of romantic partners. So if you don't vibe with Valentine's Day and even if you do, today is also a good day to celebrate the people who are always there to...
...tease you for getting into some silly new thing...
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...welcome your new friends from the thing into their group (and tease you for the one you're very clearly crushing on)...
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...and cheer you on when you don't feel cut out for the thing because even if it's silly to them, it's your thing now and they want you to succeed!
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I want to know how the conversation between Rosh and Ayub went where they decided which one of them was going to risk having the Prince of Sweden on the back of their bike without a helmet on.
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One of my absolute favorite scenes of the show isn't a Wilmon scene. It's the one where Simon comes home late from rowing practice and Ayub and Rosh are sitting in his room.
There is so fucking much going on there and most of it non-verbally. I cannot believe how good that scene is and how superbly acted by all three of them (Rosh especially).
Are we loosing you? Are you becoming one of them? Are we not good enough for you anymore? Do you think less of us because we'll probably be staying in Bjärstad for all our lives?
Do you think less of me because I don't want to stay? I'm experiencing new things that you are not part of - does this mean we're drifting apart? Do you think less of me when I befriend any of the rich kids? What if I like parts of that other world? Will you hate me for that? Will we stay friends when I get out of here and leave you behind?
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from the setup of this shot, it looks a bit like sara and simon are hanging out at the party (seeing as if they weren't simon would probably be on the opposite side of the room) AND ayub is there with them- look at the hair and the side profile- and he's talking to sara. so assuming this party happens towards the end of the season, somewhere around episode 5, I think it's safe to assume that simon and sara are at least amicable again!
(and if ayub is there... maybe rosh will be, too????)
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bonus: assuming that really is sara and ayub with simon, they're gonna be direct witnesses of this Wilmon Staring Contest! and if the hallway scene does take place after this, they're likely gonna notice that simon and wille have both disappeared. hmmmmm
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heliza24 · 10 months
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Simon doesn't repress his emotions, actually
There seems to be a widely held fanon understanding of Simon that goes something like this: Simon hides and represses his emotions, and his relationship with Wilhelm is what opens him up. I disagree with this characterization. In fact, I think Simon is actually very in touch with his emotions, and expresses them openly to his family and friends. Wilhelm and August are much better examples of emotional repression than Simon is, and if anything, the show is commenting on how the restrictive class system that raised Wilhelm and August fosters emotional repression. 
I can think of lots of examples where Simon is very open with people he loves and trusts, even when that openness might lead to conflict. I think he is really pretty open with Sara in a lot of ways. Their argument towards the end of season 1 is such a perfect encapsulation of this. He expresses how much he loves Sara and wants a good relationship with her, and also how frustrated he is by how she is pulling away from the family. 
He is also consistently open and unguarded with Rosh and Ayub. He tells them about how he’s feeling about his relationship with Wilhelm in season 1, about how he feels during the fallout from the sex tape, about his changing feelings about Marcus in season 2, and about the prospect of getting back together with Wilhelm.  The scene where Simon falls asleep on the phone with Ayub is one of the most tender, emotionally open scenes I’ve ever seen on television. 
Simon also channels his emotions into his music, which is a healthy and appropriate way to deal with the heartache he’s experiencing. We see him slowly crafting his song over the course of season 2, and returning to the keyboard when he’s feeling especially distraught. Creation of art like this requires self introspection, and I think Simon has that in spades.
What Simon doesn’t do, especially in season 2, is confide in Wilhelm. But this isn’t because Simon is afraid to talk about his feelings at all. He’s making the conscious decision to withdraw from Wilhelm, because Wilhelm deeply hurt Simon and betrayed his confidence at the end of Season 1. Drawing conscious boundaries like that also requires self introspection; working to keep yourself emotionally safe is not the same thing as repressing your emotions.
I think it’s easy to interpret Simon not talking to Wilhelm as Simon squashing his emotions because Wilhelm is the protagonist of the show, so we naturally see the world of Young Royals through his eyes. So when Simon doesn’t share with Wilhelm, it feels like he is also refusing to share with us, the viewer. But that’s why Lisa and the writers chose to create Rosh and Ayub, so that Simon would have confidants that he trusted, that were outside of the hostile class system of Hillerska. They are great characters, but they’re also devices that allow Simon to show the audience how he is truly feeling. 
In my post about Simon and radical acceptance, I talked about how I see Simon’s arc in season 2 being about accepting that he is still in love with Wilhelm. I should maybe make it clear that I don’t think that he doesn’t understand or express how he’s feeling at the beginning of season 2. He tells Rosh and Ayub that he is still stuck on Wilhelm, and he starts writing his song to express his heartbreak. But at the beginning of season 2 he is trying to move on from those feelings, and leave the drama with Wilhelm behind.  The change comes in the way that he accepts that he is in love with Wilhelm by the end of season 2, and decides that it is worth walking towards their relationship, even if it could lead to him getting hurt.  I think as a fandom we need to be careful not to reduce all of Simon’s emotions to whether or not he is actively pursuing Wilhelm. He is a complete character who expresses his emotions whether or not he’s with Wilhelm.
It kind of baffles me that Simon gets brought up when we talk about emotional repression, but Wilhelm and August are never mentioned. Both were raised in families where stoicism is valued above all else. (This is especially true in the Royal Family). Both are grieving (Wilhelm for Erik, and August for Erik and his dad), but we hardly hear them talk about this after the initial loss, even as it continues to motivate their actions. Both have physical manifestations of the emotions they are trying to repress (Wilhelm has physical symptoms of anxiety; August punishes his body through disordered eating in an attempt to maintain control of his emotions.)  Wilhelm is eventually able to open up to Boris, but it takes a lot of coaxing over several sessions. August flat out refuses to be honest with Boris at all.  
When @bluedalahorse and I were discussing this idea of emotional repression, the male characters’ relationship to anger came up a lot. I think the stereotype of emotional repression in men is that they are pressured to appear perfectly still and stoic at all times. But in reality, anger in men is often viewed as neutral or logical, and is therefore the socially acceptable method for engaging with any and all emotions. 
I think a large part of Simon’s character is a sense of righteous anger. We see this come up in different ways for him. He gets angry at the class system of Hillerska, at his dad, at August, at Marcus, and at Wilhelm. He often manages to translate that anger into an assertion of boundaries, which is a healthy way to use those feelings. He manages to set up boundaries with Wilhelm and with Marcus, for instance. And even when he does explode in a way that is unhelpful or dangerous, he has Rosh and Ayub to call him out and reel him back in, like when he jumps on August in season 1. I’m not saying Simon has a perfect relationship with anger; he definitely doesn’t. But I think he has a much healthier relationship with it than August or even Wilhelm, who uses anger as a substitute for sadness and grief.
August spends most of season 1 translating his distress into being a bully to the boys in Forest Ridge and shitty boyfriend to Felice. Shooting and posting the video also feels like a way to channel his sadness through anger to me. He records Wilhelm the same night that he admits that his dad’s suicide made him feel guilty. This is the only time that we hear him talk about his dad at all, and he immediately covers up this moment of emotional vulnerability with an act of aggression against the person he shared it with.
Wilhelm has a really hard time dealing with the sadness he feels at the loss of Simon in season 2. Wilhelm spent so long repressing his emotions, and finally felt like he could confide in someone when he met Simon. But in season 2, that one emotional outlet is taken away from him (with good reason from Simon’s point of view), so instead he lashes out, first at his mom and then at August, neither of whom are directly responsible for the breakup in the same way that Wilhelm is. 
So if we’re going to talk about emotional repression and growth towards openness and vulnerability in Young Royals, I think we should be talking mainly about Wilhelm and August. A big question of the show is if these two characters are going to arrive at a place where they no longer repress their emotions. Right now Wilhelm is moving in the right direction, and August is backsliding. But it will be really interesting to track how they evolve in season 3. 
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springjjjj · 1 year
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What makes this declaration scene even more prettier (for me) is it's because Ayub got to say this lines:
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On the earlier episode he stated Wilhelm was toxic so it was a feel good kind of thing for him (and Rosh) to witness what kind of person Simon is to Wilhelm. And how serious their relationship is to the point abdication is part of the vocabulary between them.
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Though I cannot blame Ayub for thinking this way, he is a friend who could only get to hear one side, what would he know? Of course he'd defend his friend and curse whoever hurts them. So in the final season, I do hope we get an interaction again where they could have proper conversation.
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caramelpenguin · 4 months
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[Simon and Ayub sitting together, with a pile of rocks in front of Ayub] Ayub, gesturing to empty space in front of Simon: Okay, dude, on this side are all the times I've gotten mad at you for having a problem. Zero times. Ayub, gesturing to the rocks: And on THIS side are all the times I was upset because you had a problem and you didn't tell me, so I couldn't help. Ayub: Now. What do we do with problems? Simon: Work harder to hide them so you won't be sad. Ayub: Ayub: I'm getting another rock.
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piebingo · 1 year
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There’s something powerful about this scene:
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Wille sees Ayub and Rosh from the car yet he still goes talk to Simon. He doesn’t ask them to leave or ask Simon if they can speak in private. No, he keeps his distance, leaves Simon with his friends (his emotional support, probably, in this scene) and speaks his truth. And the first Thing he does is apologize.
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Wille doesn’t hesitate to speak freely in front of Rosh and Ayub, even though he could have some reservations. Yes, they know Wille and Simon were together but that doesn’t mean that he has to feel comfortable telling Simon about August being next in line in front of them. Them knowing about it doesn’t mean Wille has to trust them --especially when they’re the best friends of your ex whom you hurt a lot... He must know they don’t like him very much.
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And as if it’s not enough, he doesn’t ask anything of Simon. He’s only there to tell him what’s up. And by informing Simon of the situation and then going, he gives Simon the chance to think about it with his friends. Now, did they give the most helpful advice this season? Not really. I don’t know if Wille knows that but it doesn’t really matter. What matters is that Wille let’s Simon think about it with people Simon trusts.
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So yeah, I just think this is a very important moment because it’s Wille being honest about the situation, expressing his feelings which is not the easiest thing for him to do, in front of people who aren’t Simon, Felice, or his mother, who were previously the only people he was somewhat honest with. It’s also important to Simon because it shows him that Wille can like him openly --in front of certain people, at least. But those people, even if they aren’t the whole world, are important to Simon. And here, Simon is being given some important information in the open.
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list of wilmon headcanons ft. the boys being casually protective and besotted with each other
both of them are just like,, obsessed with anything the other does. like when simon has a choir solo wille is going full “that’s my BOYFRIEND” bragging and when wille has to give a speech, simon is constantly talking about how proud of wille he is to the point that their friends tell him to stfu already
simon remains anti-monarchy and will debate with wille endlessly over certain topics (read: rant at wille because his boyfriend knows he’s right and isn’t fighting back) but he is the FIRST to defend wille if anyone ever says anything negative about him as the crown prince. like he will throw hands if necessary
now that wille got what he needed removing august from power, he is not afraid to hold a grudge over the way vincent was/is treating simon. he talks back during rowing, glares at him at lunch, and will step in immediately if he says something mean to simon
one of the crown’s rules for them to be public is that they had to keep pda to a minimum. they completely s u c k at following this rule. they are constantly holding hands, wille loves hugging simon from behind, there’s kisses traded in the hallways. they are nauseatingly THAT couple. there is at least one phone call a week from the royal press office telling them to calm tf down
it’s not uncommon to see simon absolutely transfixed on wille during workies. everyone knows that wille has a staring habit but simon is just as bad. he’ll completely space out of a conversation, trailing off in the middle of sentences, because he caught sight of wille across the room and is just,,, entranced
both of them have a habit of staking subtle (at least they think it’s subtle) claim on each other via putting the other in their clothes. simon constantly comes to school in wille’s sweaters and wille has practically claimed ownership to simon’s purple sweatshirt. the rest of the student body has moved past commenting
simon hates the way wille shuts down after phone calls with his mother. he gets this sad look and gets quiet and he’s watched wille have a few too many panic attacks. he counteracts this by showing wille as much affection as humanly possible, reminding him that his mother is wrong about whatever she said about him, and distracting him by singing 
on the matter of singing, one of simon’s new passtimes is writing little songs, jingles, whatever about wille. it’s a fantastic way to make his boyfriend smile, and he also just loves to see how long it takes wille to realize what he’s singing is actually about him
it takes a little while for rosh and ayub to warm back up to wille, both of them worried that the prince was just going to hurt him or break his heart again. eventually, simon convinces them to at least hang out with him once, and they change their minds when they see how happy simon looks with him and how much the prince makes him laugh, and how wille looks at simon like he hung all the stars in the sky
“i love you” is like,, an hourly affirmation for them both. they cannot go without saying it at least five times a day. part of it is because they just love saying and hearing it, and the other part of it is that neither of them thought they’d ever get a relationship like this (or that they’re relationship would ever be public) so they need the reminder that this is real and they have each other for real
this is all i’ve got for the moment, but if anyone ever has any headcanon requests, feel free to send them my way
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waiting-star · 1 year
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‘Yasmine’ ‘Yasmina’ ‘Yasmine’ ‘bro, YasminA’ was a top Dumb Boy Moment in a season full of Dumb Boy Moments and so gosh darn endearing
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Underrated scene I haven’t seen anyone talking about is Ayub FaceTiming Simon until he fell asleep because he is AN INCREDIBLE FRIEND AND HUMAN
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obsessed with ayub being a third wheel to wilmon bc he was also a third wheel with marcus and just something about him seeing the contrast of simon with marcus and with wille makes me emotional bc the difference is so clear
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kruemel8 · 10 days
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Where are they?
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