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27goldensun · 1 year

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Is it worth it? An analysis on Louis’ stunts

Lately there has been a shift in how Louis’ stunts are being presented to the fandom, with babygate mentions growing and seemingly being pushed by Louis himself.

I have taken some time to go over some (very arbitrary) success indicators that could possibly justify this push in stunts as a marketing ploy, however I have only confirmed my suspicions that the fanbase IS NOT HAPPY and that has been translating in Louis’ numbers.

(May I add that I focused more on louis’ relationship with his fanbase and I know that’s not everyone’s definition of success so I also added streaming numbers)

I took my numbers from this website and I looked through late 2021 and 2022 mostly

Starting off, lets look at Louis’ twitter following and activity:

Number of followers

Throughout August, September, October and November 2021, louis gained between 20k and 40k followers each month, those numbers were much higher during the earlier months of 2021, so what could have sparked that change?

The first picture of louis with F in years dropped in August, which happens to coincide with the sudden drop in Louis’ following

In December, the First Christmas BS happened, and that generated a drop in his following (he didn’t actually start losing followers until 2022, but he only gained 4K in December 2021) that would be weird on its on, but paired with the start of his tour (in which his numbers should be increasing much more) it was very obviously correlated.

Now onto 2022, which was quite an eventful year

2022 marked the start of LTWT which was not only an incredible time for preexisting fans could have been a great opportunity to increase his fanbase by giving him more visibility, especially paired up with a new album. We’ll see that this wasn’t the case

The beginning of the year presented Louis with a slow, especially if compared to 2021, but steady raise in following. This drastically changed in July.

The infamous dm leak happened on July 30th 2022 and it greatly impacted the fandom, which was translated into Louis social media following. Looking at it comparatively, in June 2022 he gained 129k followers, in July that number dropped to 26k, showing the impact of those final 2 days. In August, his numbers only continued to drop.

With the album announcement, one could’ve expect a raise in following and activity, but the opposite happened, and I can’t help but link it with the marketing strategy that was chosen, with further mentions of his “personal” life, especially bbg

The promotional interviews began July 2022 still during LTWT and, at first, they were stunt free (with the exception of one Interview on July 21 2022, in which he stumbled when saying F’s name, something he seemed much more comfortable with later on).

September 6, 2022: It is during an interview with Radio Deejay Itália that the mentions truly begin. Louis brings up Freddie unprompted and says he travels to LA often to visit him, from this point forward, the kid is often brought up.

November 2022 we get all those articles saying “louis finds parenting to be challenging”, over 100 copy and paste articles of this nature were posted.

December 2022 the Christmas Bs 2.0 took place, with the kid being flown to the UK and spending around a week there, between Christmas and New Years. The only footage of louis and F interacting was posted on Louis’ birthday, in a short video of the two in a dinner with the rest of the Tomlinsons.

How did this translate in his twitter following? When FITF promo started, Louis only lost followers

August 2022 he lost 7k

September 2022 he lost 33k

October 2022 he lost 24k

November 2022 he lost 29k followers (not good right after an album announcement)

December 2022 he lost 28k followers

January 2023 he lost 43.9k (the most so far)

But did all this only happen to his twitter following? Surely that’s not the only indicator of his success and relationship with his fanbase?

I agree, although louis does seem to use twitter the most when connecting with fans, lets look through his instagram

When FITF promo started, Louis only lost followers

August 2022 he lost 24k

September 2022 he lost 18k

October 2022 he lost 30k

November 2022 he lost 49k followers (not good right after an album announcement)

December 2022 he lost 33k followers

January 2023 he lost 62.8k (the most so far)

Looking at his streaming statistics

(I’m using walls as a comparison for timeline purposes, although im well aware walls promo was far from stunt free, it seems most fans have, understandably, a harder time dealing with bbg than Eleanor)

*Walls debuted at number nine on the US Billboard 200 with 39,000 album-equivalent units

*Faith in the Future debuted at number five on the Billboard 200 selling 43,000 album-equivalent units

So there was obviously an improvement on FITF debut, but has it been consistent since the album release?

The “this is Louis tomlinson playlist” on Spotify

May 2021 The "This Is Louis Tomlinson" playlist reached 250k likes

February 2023 The "This Is Louis Tomlinson" playlist reached 320k likes

Album stream milestones

Walls

Over 100 million streams on Spotify: February 6th, 1 week after its release

FITF

Over 100 million streams on Spotify: December 10th, 1 month after its release

So, overall, the situation does not seem to be improving…

I will later go through his tour sales, but given the different venue sizes this could be a bit tricky

My interpretation of those numbers i presented is that no, it is not worth it. Regardless on your opinion about bbg, from a marketing standpoint this image doesn’t seem to be doing Louis any favors…

(Please feel free to add your thoughts, I’d love to deepen this discussion)

Also, I don’t think any stunt that furthers a queer person’s closeting could ever be “worth it”, this was just my attempt to try to see what could be their motivations for this (although if its commercial success, it’s definitely not working)

#louis tomlinson #babygate #bbg #stunts #analysis #faith in the future #fitf #walls #streams

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finexbright · 1 year

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What in the documentary made you more sure that louis isn’t the kid’s dad?!

okay i've got three big major reasons why

- he talks extensively about all the losses and how much of domino effect it was. first the band going on break, and then his mum's diagnosis and eventually losing her and shortly after losing fizz as well. he also talks about the jho performance and how if he could do that, he could do anything. but, he's talking about all his losses and essentially saying that that was his rock bottom and how he was just getting hit by blow after blow and he sort of implies that nothing good happened. however, it was also supposed to be the time when he "became a father" and if he's so devoted and loves his kid so much (as they show later on), shouldn't this kid he loves so much be one of the very few positives that came out of the dark time in his life?

- there's a scene where he talks about how jay had him very young and how she was still a kid when she had him and that's one of the reasons why his bond with his mum was so emotional and strong and he puts so much emphasis on jay being young. the most natural segue from that conversation would be "and now i realise why that bond was as strong as it was because i too had a kid when i fairly young" but nope doesn't bring it up at all.

- throughout the documentary he talks about 1d and his mum and stuff, like everything he talks about it is something that stays throughout the doc. however, the whole bit with freddie, was just that - a bit. there's literally no new footage, as in yeah the ones that charlie filmed obviously but when they're talking about freddie, the photos that they display are pretty much photos we've already seen or were taken from the sisters' ig and it's like. okay yeah i get that you just want to talk about your kid for two minutes but why would you use things from your sisters' stories? won't you have your own, non public pictures? so yeah

#babygate #non non #aotv spoilers

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larrylimericks · 1 year

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23Mar23

We’re feeling some internal friction At silver screen Louis’ depiction; All the world is a stage But it’s hard to engage When plot lines combine fact and fiction.

I get really rambly below the fold. Proceed with caution if you’re over the discourse already.

I debated seeing All of Those Voices in theaters. I didn’t see either of Harry’s films in theaters — Harries are too much of a wildcard, and I refused to sit through hours of squeals and gasps and reactions, not to the movie but to “omg! Harry’s going down on someone! omg, Harry’s bum!” So I was already tentative about seeing Louis’ film in a shared space, outside the protective silos of tumblr. But I bought a ticket, because I want to support him and because I was genuinely curious what story would be told. Then we got the trailer and I hesitated again, not wanting to watch a propaganda film. But, I’ve lived through all the other Bullshit moments, so I figured I could live through Bullshit on the big screen.

My theater crowd was great — pretty neutral aside from an amusing row of politely excitable Larries I was in secret solidarity with. And I pretty much loved the film. Well, 92% of it. I look forward to watching it again when it streams. I mean, it was an hour and a half of content featuring this fascinating creature we’re all obsessed with. I didn’t want to blink. I hung on his every word (when I could understand them). How cool to get, essentially, a long-form interview, where he’s not promoting an album and we’re not getting the same sound bytes. Louis is wonderfully open and vulnerable, and the story of his life (heh) is inherently compelling. The cinematography is beautiful. The behind-the-scenes are delightful and delicious. I can’t wait for the AOTV gif sets once we have it in high-def.

But it has some plot holes as wide and deep as the ones in Don’t Worry Darling.

First, there’s the confusing (to the uninformed) absence of a love interest. Louis is asexual, as far as the film goes. There’s not even a ghost of Eleanor, with whom he’s cumulatively spent a decade and who is supposed to have inspired so many great love songs and with whom he is supposed to have survived a pandemic. Props to E for living her best life now: going to see Scream on AOTV opening day, enjoying full custody of the pups, publicly supporting her assumed partner — sorry you got Kiki Layned from the film, but I’m guessing you weren’t even written into the script. (It’s not like the film was conveniently re-edited in the months since their break-up. Her stunt tapering was intentional.)

Then there’s the glaring absence of a baby mama (thank god; that family would have been even more insufferable). We’re cruising along for 45 minutes or so and then, wham, Dad!Louis enters the chat with a fully formed 6-year-old child. The kid just magically appears with no backstory — just like in real life ... twice (the first time with the pregnancy announcement and the second time with the revival of Dad!Louis after several years of dormancy, right in time for documentary filming. Just like Harry stunted with his co-star during filming and production, Louis stunted with his.)

The kid is cute, and faultless in this. The scenes are objectively sweet (as they were designed to be). But Louis, who normally keeps things very close to the vest, is all of a sudden an emotional spigot you can’t turn off when it comes to these scenes. It seems quite out of character. Which brings back to mind that this Louis *is* a character. The Freddie scenes just didn’t seem to have a point in the plot other than: Louis is a dad. And that role isn’t integral to the film’s story.

He’s incredibly emotional with Freddie, but the movie doesn’t tell us why. The storytelling gets lazy here. The lad/dad plot seems wedged in. The movie would be perfectly complete without it. I felt like it could have been integrated a few different ways: Louis experienced tragedy after tragedy after tragedy — loses 1D, loses his mum, loses his sister ... and then impending fatherhood either becomes another trial he must reluctantly face (in the surprise pregnancy narrative) or it helps him navigate the grief of losing his sole parent, his closest confidante. OR, Louis, not wanting to be like the absentee father he had, shows up for his own oopsie baby despite the unexpected circumstances. But there’s no exposition or rising action. No footage or photos from the first few years of the kid’s life that we haven’t already seen. Just an immaculate conception.

I think the most compelling narratives of the film are these:

Louis’ overcoming adversity after adversity after adversity. Holy hell. I lived through 1D ending, through the devastating news about Jay (god, I remember the shock and sadness of that day — it was incomprehensible), through the heartbreaking news about Fizzy, and then when you think Louis is gonna get his moment of victory with his first solo world tour, coronavirus pulls the rug out. (That sequence was well done: where we keep seeing the dates get closer and closer to March 2020, and we all know the villain that’s coming, but it’s still such a blow.) I lived through all that in real time, but seeing it in such a concentrated sequence really highlights the shit he’s been dealt, and hearing him open up about so much of it ... that’s the character development relevant to the film’s denouement. And getting to see Louis get what he deserves, finally, and hearing him acknowledge that he deserves it, was a lovely ending.

Louis’ journey to find his footing and his confidence as a solo artist after unfathomable success as part of a group. But, in a sort of plot twist, he’s not really solo, is he? The film gives a lovely introduction to his band now — and in their own words, reveals that they’re not just a backing band, they’re a *band* band. Louis has let them in. He’s forged a new brotherhood. *That*, for me, was the heartwarming story. I loved those scenes, loved seeing Louis in his element, which is in a collective, where he is both king and jester at the same time. (Or perhaps Oli’s the jester. Thank fuck for him, man. Oli is the standout. The breakthrough performance. The comic relief. I want a spinoff series.) It’s easy to miss 1D and glorify those short years and think nothing will ever top it, but Charlie’s storytelling of the LT Band is remarkable. We’re left looking forward, not back.

I know Louis’ dedication to his fans and his fans’ dedication to him is a huge focus, but I don’t really enjoy watching commentaries on fandoms I’m a part of. I’m living it. I don’t need outsider context. And in a fandom as fractured as Louis’ (and 1D’s) there’s not a universal experience. The film depicts dedication as sleeping on streets for rail, hopping from country to country and draining bank accounts — because that’s the kind of “superfandom” that gets easily turned into a marketable freak show. Show me the documentary on the fans who organize the light projects, who run the fashion accounts, who curate livestream sources on show nights, who have turned giffing into an art and science, who help promote Louis in the absence of a competent marketing team, etc., etc. I also thought the interview with the American(?) girls talking about LATAM shows was shortsighted. And showing the rainbow factions but not addressing them? What a missed opportunity to talk about songs like Only the Brave becoming a queer anthem. Straight artists can have gay fans, you know.

But the film doesn’t make the kid relevant to any of those storylines. He could have been worked into the first, but wasn’t. It was like a standalone narrative, with footage from a narrow set of days. I was at both those L.A. shows. The energy was so different from night 1 to 2. And in retrospect it’s clear Louis was performing the first night so Charlie could get the right shots. More like a choreographed play than a rock concert. It makes sense now why the Clarks weren’t in the VIP box with Freddie — couldn’t have them cluttering the frame or distracting the actors. Just, everything about the Freddie scenes is heavy-handed. Make a sign for your dad! Draw his logo in the sand! Fly a kite at sunset! He’s the spitting image of Louis! (Len does all the heavy lifting.) And all the maneuvering it had to take to get all those shots from the L.A. show?! In the VIP box from behind (and from the front, and when he just happens to be mouthing along to Two Of Us), side stage watching Louis end the show, on-stage watching Louis approach Freddie after the show, on-stage catching the moment Louis gives the lad a shout-out ... Charlie had a shot list. But sure, nothing was set up, it was totally organic.

I’m still unsettled by how heavily Charlie laid it on at the first premiere press conference — *he* was the one to bring up the kid, and was weirdly emphatic that nothing was staged, nothing was forced. It had the same energy of the “It’s. Not. Real” thrown baby doll moment, only it’s Charlie insisting that It. Is. Real. Thou dost protest too much, me thinks.

And of course, the lack of interaction between Louis and Harry remains, as ever, the biggest tell. We get poignant post-1D Nouis and Lilo moments in the film, but no Larry. We’re spoon-fed these Very Emotional Moments between father and son (“love you,” “Darling,” mouth kisses), when the real story, the real emotion, the real connection is in just a few seconds of furtive glances between Harry and Louis in the backstage footage of the last 1D performance. Christ, the way Harry’s eyes bore into Louis — chin tilted down, eyes glancing up from beneath a furrowed brow, lips tight, disguising his attentiveness with a hair flip ... they mastered so many forms of silent communication. The quiet call and response, the depths of love and care and concern and protection contained in micro-expressions. Fuck, give me 90 minutes of that. Just a silent film of Louis and Harry looking at each other.

Anyway. Sorry this sounds so grumpy. I did really love most of the movie. But I haven’t made sense of why this film was made. I don’t know its purpose. Maybe the introspection forced by the pandemic lockdown is to credit for this glut of music docs (“docs”) lately. Maybe nine minutes frees him up for nine more months or nine more years. I dunno. He obviously wanted this story told in this way.

Seeing a movie requires the willing suspension of disbelief. You have to ignore critical thinking in order to enjoy the story you’re being told. You tune out your knowledge that everything is fake for the sake of being entertained. We know that Superman can’t actually fly, but we still buy tickets to the cinema. But, a documentary shouldn’t require us to employ this semi-conscious perceiving mode. Yet here we are. I’m just not sure how much more or how much longer we can suspend our disbelief to enjoy fandom.

#larry #louis #louis tomlinson #all of those voices #aotv #stunts #babygate #bbg #spoilers #aotv spoilers #limerick-lt #march 22 #2023

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goodvibesatpeace · 8 days

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#lol #funny #memes #harry potter #voldemort #lord voldemort #lily potter #james potter #babygate #goodvibesatpeace

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tobethemselves · 4 months

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Larry Timeline

December 2023

01.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

02.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

03.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

04.12.2023 Harry is MIA [Rumors of Harry in Rome, (x) (stunt mention)] / Louis is MIA

05.12.2023 Harry is MIA [Rumor of Harry in London (stunt mention)] / Louis is MIA

06.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

07.12.2023 Allegedly Harry is in Citiva, Italy (stunt mention) / Louis is MIA

08.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

09.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

10.12.2023 Harry is MIA [Rumor of Harry in Rome] / Louis is MIA

11.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

12.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

13.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

14.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

15.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

16.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis in Las Vegas (x)

17.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

18.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

19.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

20.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

21.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

22.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

23.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

24.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis seems to be in Doncaster (x)

25.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is in Doncaster (stunt mention)

26.12.2023 Harry is in London (stunt mention) / Louis is MIA

27.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

28.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

29.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is MIA

30.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is in London

31.12.2023 Harry is MIA / Louis is in Doncaster

#Harry is all over the place #🤣#as usual at this time #december 2023 #2023 #larry timeline #timeline #timeline 2023 #louis tomlinson #harry styles #stunt mention #babygate #hussell stunt #my timelines #my stuff

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larrywerelastseeninthesameroom · 5 months

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How long has it been since Harry and Louis were last seen in the same room at the same time?

Seven (7) years.

#larry stylinson #end it #it's literally ending #babygate #it's larrie year #fuck babygate #fuck timeandspacegate #larry is real #fuck sevenyearoldgate

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thedevilinmybrain · 1 year

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my babygate thoughts after watching AOTV

I want to start off by saying that these are just my opinions and I am in no way, shape, or form indicating that I am apologizing or justifying my believed closeting of a queer individual. Nor am I making apologies for someone that I do not know nor will ever know. That being said, I do feel that I am allowed to draw my own personal conclusions given the evidence presented before us and make my own critical decision based on the content.

I do not believe Freddie is Louis' son. I honestly will never believe that he is biologically Louis' son.

That being said, I do think that AOTV did an interesting job of framing the Louis/Freddie relationship in the midst of talking about his family and the role he is so often put in. For instance, I believe that AOTV is more of a film of self discovery and reconciliation of the self than anything else. It's framed about one man's struggle to find where he belongs and if he even deserves it. So in some ways, it's an introspective film about Louis' outlook on himself as an artist, as a brother, as a friend, and as an individual.

Given the way that Louis and his sisters talk about him, Louis has always been in the role of 'protector' and 'big brother'. Even in the band, there was a sense that Louis was the oldest and that he was 'the boss' because of his skill in voicing and sticking up for the rest of the boys. We have seen it time and time again from the way he's protective of his siblings to the way he was always so involved in the `1D days. This is a man who prides himself on taking care of others and making the best of situations - a fact that I will bring up later.

When it comes to babygate and the deals and trauma that surround that, I do believe that Louis had limited say in the matter. Much like the example in the film of the producer that gave Louis hope but ultimately did his own decision on the song, Louis' life in One Direction didn't come without a slew of managers and music company people who had a say in it and made decisions. I do not think at the beginning that Louis was allowed to give much imput or control over the happenings behind the scene. As 1D went on break and Louis was able to navigate his own career with a little more freedom, I do think that input changed but considering how much of his life is hidden behind contracts and NDAs, I don't think the truth will ever be told in its entirety. And honestly, I am okay with that because at the end of the day, it's Louis' life and I am just an observer.

So, when it comes to Freddie now, I am of the opinion that Louis is more of an 'uncle' or 'family friend' to him. Given the limited amount of time we actually know they spend together, probably equal to how much Louis has seen Doris and Ernie, one can speculate that Louis isn't a constant in Freddie's life. More of a randomly visiting family memmber than a core fixture. We never hear Freddie call him Dad. We see Freddie multiple times look at the camera during the film and on other occasions such as the holidays where it feels like he's being prompted to interact with the family. It's the same feeling of seeing an uncle at Christmas that you haven't seen in ages. You know them but you're not 100% comfortable.

So, why even bother? Why does Louis make any effort at all?

I think it comes down to him being in the role of protective older brother. If there is nothing he can do about babygate, if there is nothing he can change about the narrative now, the very least he can do is make positive memories with an innocent child. I mean, what would fandom prefer? Every time they're stunted together that Louis just ignores Freddie like he's Eleanor? Found somewhere in the background looking miserable?

It's making the best out of the worst situation. Because one day, someone is going to explain all of this to Freddie. And yes, I do believe it's unfair and it's cruel to the child, but we also don't know what he's being told as his own narrative. Maybe he knows Louis as his 'Uncle Lou' or 'The UK family'. We just don't know. But what we do know is that when Louis is with him, he takes on the role of big brother. He plays with him, he gives him good memories, he provides experiences just like he did/does for his younger siblings. It's shown in the film with the way he kisses the baby twins. It's Louis being a stand in 'father figure' or 'big brother'.

I'm not saying it's right or that it's the way it should be. Honestly, I don't think closeting should be a thing at all. It's grossly unfair to everyone involved. But the Louis I know, the man we've all loved from the very beginning, would never allow himself to be cruel or cold to someone innocent. And I think he's doing the best that he can given the circumstances.

And I hope one day when Freddie finds out the truth, at the very least he can look back and be like 'Yes, this was unfair and unjust and completely inappropriate. But all I know of this man is the kindness and the fun and the good times. He didn't cause me more pain.'

#babygate #louis tomlinson #my thoughts

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fredficaccount · 17 days

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If you want people to stop being convinced of something, stop insinuating it yourself and ask your family of pseudo-influencers to stop baiting abt. You can't have it both ways.

You can't stroke one day to get the money and sell your tickets. And hit the next, even if it means aggravating your closet.

Larries didn't become larries for no reason.

And they have as much right to respect as any other fan. And the subject could be blacklisted, out of respect for those fans to whom you're quite happy to sell concert tickets.

Do you really want to pretend you're straight and a (shit) father?

Good luck with the audience you've got left then.

#louis image #closeting #babygate

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daily-stylinson · 7 months

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Check out this 🧵

#louis tomlinson #louis #larry stylinson #harry #harry styles #larry #love #one direction #louis tomlinson pics #concerts #fitf world tour #love on tour #babygate #bbg #rbb #threads #twitter #theory #friends

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twopoppies · 11 hours

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https://www.tumblr.com/tommolotsoflove/748513342994432000

Gina. Why is nobody talking about this? Everything is sooo damn similar to bbg. The fake kid, fake fatherhood, changes in birth certificate, everyone acting casual when the news dropped. Isn't this just the same?

Well, I for one only saw it right now. But also, those of us who’ve been here at least since 2016 are fucking tired of repeating the same thing over and over. We discussed Ronan Farrow back then. We discussed Jack Nicholson. We discussed a lot. And put it all together in masterposts. And it’s obvious af that Louis isn’t Freddie’s dad. But no one here cares about facts anymore. And Louis for some unknown reason wants us to believe that kid is his. I doubt, like Woody Allen, it’s to hide his infertility, but it very much is likely because somehow having a kid makes him not gay and not Harry Styles’ partner.

Anyway, for those who think that the only way babygate could be real is if it isn’t the first time it’s happened, this is a well documented post.

#ronan farrow #babygate #paternity scandals

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skepticalarrie · 1 year

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Hey how's it going??

I have a question about bbg, sorry to bring this up but I joined the fandom in 2020 and there are a lot of things I'm just discovering now. I saw a post on twitter "denying" the fact that B's cousin used photos of other pregnant women as if they were B, they said it was a fake account and that B's cousin denied it… is this true?? ?

LOL nope. Ashley's account was 100% the one who posted the fake pictures, both on twitter AND facebook, Fizzy even got into a fight with her over this situation. Ashley claims the pictures were photoshopped into her account, but a lot of people saw them before she took them down. There was never another account, her account was always the one in the ss below

And listen... if it was a one-time thing we could all forget about it and pretend it was some sort of misunderstanding, okay? Like we did with a lot of other things in the fandom through the years. But it really wasn't. It was stolen ones first, and then photoshopped ones, and then *ALL* pictures completely cropping out her face and looking super generic, fake bumps in public and finally a bump completely missing when she was supposed to be very pregnant. We never got ONE good convincing picture or video of this woman pregnant, never, ever. To this day, it was always this easy to give us reasons to believe the pregnancy and all she came up with was an ultrasound from a fertility clinic.

Not to mention everything after Freddie was supposedly born.... again more photoshop pictures, dolls being used as the baby, Briana's clothes, her body, her new nose. There are TOO MANY incidences to brush things off, it's too consistent. She just wasn't pregnant.

#ask #fake pregnancy #babygate #stolen pictures #ashley jessica

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27goldensun · 1 year

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Let’s hear your thoughts about the doc and the stunts. I’d like to hear them.

Heyyyy, I was waiting until we got a first impression from it to post this (but I’ll make a more detailed one after I’ve seen it myself)

We have now confirmed that the only Freddie scenes in it seem to be from when we got the more recent Public push onwards, which is expected but only corroborates to the fakeness of it all (are you telling me you don’t have a single video of your child’s first 4 years??? Like, how is this believable?)

So, for whatever reason, we seem to have a clear timeline of events:

January 2020 - Louis releases his first solo album, dedicating it to his son that we have seen very little in the past years (he didn’t even know what Freddie was wearing on Halloween or what he’d wore on previous years). He also gets caught lying about spending F’s bday with him

Very soon after the pandemic hit and we know they weren’t together as Louis was quarantining in the UK and Freddie was with his fam in LA

It is during this that we see the Clarks mess up the first time (which I believe led louis to take on a more active role in BBG)

1. Briana literally set herself on fire during a livestream, claiming that Freddie was sleeping in the same house, which of course tabloids picked up on quickly, but Louis didn’t comment on it and things remained the same.

Late 2020 we got one bigger misstep from the Clarks

2. Boobgate, I could do a lengthy explanation on this later, but the result of the debacle was that louis came out as absent father who not only didn’t see his kid but also didn’t pay an adequate amount of child support (especially for a millionaire) leaving to Briana’s sugar daddy to buy even groceries for his son

Finally, what I believe solidified the shift in bbg we’ve seen, we have Freddie’s birthday in 2021

3. Fertility clinic sonogram: even non believers were confused by this one, and I have yet to see an alternative explanation other than that kid isn’t Louis

So we had 3 major mistakes that discredited the whole narrative (however fickle) they had set in motion, and I do believe louis needs to have a semblance of control in this mess and that is why he took the role of bbg pusher so far since Christmas 2021, culminating with the doc.

I will expand on louis’ recent actions and the doc later on, but I have some more timelines on this subject that I need to finish before!

(Also, the lack of beard content does seem very on brand for the new image, so I’m not surprised)

#bbg #my thoughts #ask #babygate #stunts #louis tomlinson

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