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movementsofmylife · 1 year

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bad buddy ep 1 (rewatch)

some thoughts and vibes. i've watched this ep an uncountable number of times, and i still love it so much.

first, to start my counter of, how many times does pran pull out his entire (extremely intense) set of markers and not use them:

ep 1: //

the kornwai vibes were so strong. they were clearly a parallel to the patpran world keeping them apart, they were keeping themselves apart. but w.e there's fanfiction fix its for that relationship.

ppl have pointed it out but we were truly robbed pran's dad's daddy vibes lol, by which i mean the tattoo on his shoulder.

the shirts, as noted by many, are exquisite. my fave of the episode is the above 'turn up the saturation' shirt of pat's. it's an obvious connection to the "I was so depressingly lonely without you" line. one of the most common descriptions of depression is life losing it's color, hence, pran comes back and so does the color. it's also in pran's red:)

this wai convincing pran to do the freshy music fest. i feel like wai got a pran who was slightly more reserved. obviously not quiet or weak, but one who was a bit slower to go out and take risks. case in point his, i don't want to be a part of that mess comment from post fight. and i think part of why they're friends is that wai can get him to come along and take part in the world again.

so some of what seems like manipulative shit that wai gets pran to do things, i think is just, that's how one gets pran to do things. and we all know how manipulative pran is, so it's not like he's unaware that wai is manipulating him. but sometimes friendship is letting your friends emotionally guilt you into not being isolated.

relatively certain that someone has posted about this before. but this scene is definitely not a competition. the soundtrack song they play on top makes it cacophonous enough that it could be read that way. but without it and with the knowledge of their past, they're clearly just jamming. their faces are not even teasing, just like figuring out how to play music together again, how to be together again.

art.

also a cute, extremely obvious shirt.

this is the first time in the entire episode that pat looks relaxed and happy. the "icy pat" of the 3 year separation starts to thaw, there's color (mint green:) in his life again.

god this show is so fucking good. excited for the entire rewatch.

#badbuddyrewatch #bad buddy ep 1 #bad buddy

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ive-a-problem-to-flaunt · 5 months

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hi what.

so I looked at ao3 stats for Bad Buddy again - this time, I looked at the stats of the fics written in the week following the release of each ep.

My initial draft for this post began with a longer explanation of what I did and why - but I'm scrapping that [and pushed it below the cut, if anyone's interested] in favour of incredulously asking how the heckity dizzle was there a noticeable dip in the number of fics featuring Wai after ep 9:

Here is a graph showing the number of one-shots (i.e., fics with only one chapter - more on why I counted only one-shots under the cut) using the character tags for Pa, Ink, Korn, and Wai written after the release of each ep:

FASCINATING.

For context, ep 9 is about the aftermath of the curtain drop + Pat gets shot + Wai helps get the footage from the bar and makes up with Pat and Pran. So I totally expected most fics from that week to focus on Wai tbh (more accurately, I expected at least light Wai-bashing lol. Listen, I adore Wai, but that is the ep in which it's revealed he dropped the curtain). I know there's a fair number of fics that explore Pran/Pat/Korn confronting Wai, Wai apologising, or other stuff like that, so I thought I'd see mostly those kinds of fics. But nope! Most authors decided Wai didn't need to be the focus at all.

But then I wondered how the total number of fics looked - if fewer fics were written overall that week, then it would make sense for the number mentioning Wai to fall too. So I made a graph of the percentage of fics written in a given week that used these character tags, and Wai falls slightly here too!

Notably, the percentage of fics focussing on Pat and Pran remained roughly the same here. So I'm assuming most authors focussed on PatPran's reaction to the curtain drop (and gunshot) rather than Wai after ep 9.

I also like that Pa was present in fanfiction every week, right from the first ep :)

Also yes, the steep rise in Wai and Korn after ep 10 is definitely conspicuous - I'll get to that in a bit!

First I wanna clarify that while pulling these numbers, I noticed that there are many fics use the Pat/Pran relationship tag but don't use the character tags, even though obviously the characters are present. So that means these numbers aren't representative of the exact number of fics focussing on each character - they're just indicative of the trends. Though honestly that can be said about everything in this post, because there is always the possibility of tagging errors in fics.

Onto WaiKorn and InkPa! I made graphs of the fics using the relationship tags too, so here's InkPa and WaiKorn:

These two and PatPran are the most popular, but I had to remove PatPran to make this graph easier to read, rather than squishing these two ships at the bottom of the graph under the far more active PatPran tag. xD

Initially I had also included the platonic pairings in this graph (like Pat&Pran, Pat&Korn, etc.) but I removed them after I realised a lot fics tend to mix up romantic and platonic pairings and use '&' pairs for romantic fics too, so the numbers were quite off. I was a bit disappointed about that tbh, because I really, really wanted to see how many fics focus on platonic relationships and also fics with Pat&Pran in non-romantic contexts. Ah well.

[Although if we do assume the platonic tags are accurately used, then some interesting takeaways are that there's a peak in Pat&Pran fics after ep 7 (the bet era) and also a smaller bump in Pat&Korn fics after ep 10 (unsure why).]

So yeah! With those disclaimers done, onto the sudden jump in Wai and Korn mentions after ep 10!

The number of fics focussing on Wai and Korn rose steeply after ep 10, as did the frequency of the Wai/Korn relationship tag. So naturally I checked the ep and yeppp, that's the ep with the WaiKorn drink product placement scene/the one in which Wai walks in with a crepe and Korn tries to make up with him. Suddenly that sudden jump in WaiKorn's frequency makes a lot of sense, heh.

Also shout-out to that single WaiKorn fic written immediately after ep 2 itself bfkhgkdhh that author was really ahead of their times (iirc when I checked, the author said that fic was inspired by a behind the scenes video that featured Drake giving Jimmy a quick kiss on the cheek at one point).

And heh, I love that Ink appears in ep 4 for the first time and there's immediately two fics with InkPa.

I can't say I'm sure why InkPa rose to their highest peak after ep 11 - I skimmed the ep while writing this post and I can't find any particular reason, so I'd love to hear if anyone remembers any InkPa moments in that ep that inspired so many fics focussing on them!

Also, I was curious about InkPa-centric fics (as opposed to fics where InkPa is a background ship), so I used ao3's otp: true filter. What this filter does is show fics in which InkPa is the only ship. So that means InkPa is definitely the primary ship in those fics, but unfortunately it also removes InkPa-centric fics with other background ships.

In any case, I made this graph that shows the most common ships and compares how many fics feature each ship (this graph is not limited to the fics when the series was airing; it's the total fics written as of 22/11/23):

The blue sections are the fics that feature only that ship, and the total column height (blue+orange parts together) is how many fics include the ship overall (either as a main or side pairing). [OTP: False is the filter for fics that have multiple pairings.]

Unsurprisingly, PatPran dwarfs the other two. InkPa is more frequent than WaiKorn (there's a difference of about 100 fics overall). Notably, there are more fics where PatPran is the only ship than fics with multiple ships (i.e., there's more blue than orange for PatPran). However, that gets flipped for both InkPa and WaiKorn - there are fewer fics where they're the only ship compared to fics that feature multiple ships.

Aaaand giving the relationships a rest, onto the friend groups! I wanted to see which of the friends are the go-to when an author needs someone from the architecture and engineering gangs to turn up, so here's the (cumulative) graph of fics using each character in the week after each ep came out:

If anyone wanted to see the frequency with which each gang (including Wai and Korn) collectively appears after each ep:

Admittedly, this isn't the best graph because a fic that features both Wai and Safe, for instance, gets counted twice. So the length of each bar does not reflect the number of fics written that week. But this graph kinda helps compare which characters were popular when.

Also, I think Wai and Korn should be treated as a separate category since they appear on their own a lot and likely skew these results. So here's the same graph sans Wai and Korn:

Turns out Louis was the most frequent when the series was airing! There were 18 fics with Louis, 16 with Chang, 14 with Safe, and 13 with Mo. That changed afterwards though, because if I look at all fics written as of 22/11/23, the numbers are still close to each other but Chang is the most popular with 168 fics, followed by Mo with 166 - making the engg gang more popular overall? Louis is in 154 fics and Safe in 150.

Also, I was a lil surprised by the fact that many weeks feature only two or three of them rather than the whole gang(s). Like why would only Chang and Louis appear in fics after ep 12, while after ep 11 only Mo and Safe appear? And all four of them only appear together following ep 6! Also, often it's one person from engg and one from architecture that appear - I have no idea why that is the case but I'm intrigued.

okay I'm going to draw this post to abrupt end and stop talking about numbers now because this is getting quite long and dense, but yeah! Here's what the characters and relationships looked like in the fanfiction after each ep. :]

Oh, and as to why I started this whole thing: Back when I made this post, I looked at what kind of fics each ep of Bad Buddy inspired using the freeform tags (and I made it a chart race, which is always fun, heh). It led to a bunch of fun discoveries - though my fav is still canon divergent fics rising noticeably after ep 5 (in which Pran walks away from the rooftop) and ep 11 (in which PatPran head to the beach and the preview implied they'd break up in ep 12) - unsurprising that the fandom collectively decided to throw canon out the window for a bit there. xD

[Under the cut is a lil more context about what I did and why I made the choices I did.]

Last time, I couldn't settle on how to handle the multi-chaptered fics. I was working off the assumption that fics written in the week after an ep were likely mostly inspired by that ep (I don't expect that to hold true for every fic, but I wanted to see the overall trends after each ep and this was the best way imo), and multi-chaptered fics kinda mess with those numbers because they span multiple weeks and because of the way ao3's filters work.

But then the other day I stumbled across destinationtoast's stats re: the Ted Lasso fandom's response to season 3. First off, it was very validating to see someone else also do a similar analysis to what I did. :D (My approach, that I figured out on the fly, wasn't total bullshit, whoop whoop!) But I also liked how Toast dealt with the multi-chaptered fics problem: simply ignore them skfhskhg. Ao3 allows looking for single-chaptered fics only, so Toast looked only at one-shots written in the week following an episode's release. It worked since apparently the majority of the works in the fandom were one-shots, so the results were reasonably accurate.

I decided to try something similar and give the week-wise stats of Bad Buddy another go, because the issues I identified in my old posts on the fics written when the main series and OS2 were airing are still niggling me. Initially I expected that ignoring multi-chaptered fics wouldn't give me accurate results, since a sizable chunk of Bad Buddy fics have multiple chapters - when I checked, 694 fics out of a total of 2565 fics (as of writing this post) have multiple chapters - that's nearly 30%.

But then I compared the number of single vs muti-chaptered fics written in the week immediately after each ep, and yeah no, it holds up alright in those weeks. Turns out, most of the fics written while the series was airing were one-shots - the largest difference I found was in the week after ep 10, when 15 out of 64 fics had multiple chapters. In every other week, the number of multi-chaptered fics updated was in the single digits, so I feel fairly confident about my numbers now. The numbers in this post should be a fairly accurate representation of what was being written each week.

I think the majority of the fics written while the series was airing being one-shots is interesting. Based on the fics I tend to read, I kinda assumed that multiple chapters were far more common, but I stand corrected! In hindsight, that kinda makes sense I guess. Also, considering that this is true for both Ted Lasso and Bad Buddy, I'm wondering if that's true for all fandoms - someday I'd like to see how this varies across fandoms/media/genres.

Also, I should note that there was a break of two weeks between the release of eps 9 and 10. In this post, I only counted the fics written in the first week after ep 9 and ignored the fics during the second week of the break. I didn't do this last time when I looked at freeform tags (I counted fics from both weeks in that post). I'm still not sure which is a better reflection of the impact of ep 9. (I'd love to hear any opinions on this! Actually I'd love to hear anything about this whole exercise, be it what I could do differently or theories on what can explain these stats).

also, this is completely unrelated but shout-out to @dimplesandfierceeyes who kept turning up in so many of the tags I was looking at! Like, the most recent explicit InkPa-only fic was by seekingmoonscapes, as was the last Louis/Safe fic, and even one of the (only five!) fics in the sparsely populated Coffee Shops & Cafés AU tag.

It could've been just a coincidence but it was very amusing and a delight to see the same name pop up frequently in many of the less-common tags :)

#also hooo boyyy ao3's hidden operators cheatsheet zindabad #there's a list of filters /officially/ called that by ao3 and it has options for stuff like single chaptered fics and otp: true #which was very helpful for this post - I didn't have to manually sort through the fics #I am SO glad I discovered that list #it has lots of other interesting options like backdated and restricted fics and stuff too- someday I'll finish my draft that looks at those #also. Pran appears in like 40 fics more than Pat?#a very superficial look into the fics with Pran and without Pat suggest those are largely either introspective fics #or focus on other relationships like Wai&Pran or Pran&Pa #while the fics with Pat and without Pran seem more focussed on Pat's realisation #this was v superficial tho so next time I wanna spend more time reading those fics #to see how Pat-centric and Pran-centric introspective fics differ from each other and which kind of scenes/eps inspire each #bad buddy #placeholder tag #also FFS I am once again hitting post past 1 AM - why do i keep doing this to myself #also apologies if I didn't explain any of the graphs or IDs well - I have been awake for too many hours in a row #feel free to lemme know if anything isn't clear and I'll do my best to elaborate!

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dribs-and-drabbles · 11 months

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Colours in Our Skyy 2 Bad Buddy x A Tale of Thousand Stars ep 2

With this first crossover ep and the whole thing set in Chiang Mai/Pha Pun Dao, I was interested to see whether the colours I had interpreted in Bad Buddy would continue. @respectthepetty has written a great post on the use of lighting in atots, but I didn't pay as much attention to the lighting in this crossover to be able to say whether it's been consistent here too (maybe they will!).

I did notice, however, that the villagers wore a lot of blue and red (although a quick scan of atots reminded me that they wore a lot of those colours in that series too...although weighted more on the blue side).

Hello Toto and sound-booth-guy! (I think he had a name but I couldn't find it again). Also, I think they raided the wardrobe for Aou in Vice Versa for Pat's Chiang Mai clothes - why has he gone from sleeveless shirts in BBS to pocketed vests in OS2?!

Beyond all the blue and red, the other colours featured as well...starting with Pran in an orange shirt, which I said I would talk about in my ep 1 post. I love the idea that the orange might be a reference to Ink and how she entered Pat and Pran's story as a potential faen fatale in ep 4 of BBS. Initially, Pran regarded her cautiously as a love interest for Pat and similarly in Our Skyy 2 Pran is first looked upon warily by Tian as someone suspiciously close to Phupha (the children don't help by saying Pran is Phupha's boyfriend). This leads me back the tent in ep 1, and the orange there could also have been a nod to the faen fatale character - of Wai coming between the couple by being mistaken by Pat for Pran. Anyway, note Pran's yellow socks below! He might have left Pat behind but his love for him is still with him.

Pran's orange could also have been a choice for Aof to create the wonderful parallel with Moonlight Chicken, of Mix's character being witness to the 'baby-gays', alongside Pat's blue striped top. But Tian's olive-green top (and Phupha's camouflage), suggests the conflict and hostility between both couples.

The next day, despite sabotaging Pran's attempts to get Phupha and Tian to make up, Pat is wearing a yellow top, perhaps proclaiming his love for Pran out loud. Pran, despite telling Pat he wanted to come alone and get the signatures without his help, is wearing Pat's colour - a loud proclamation itself. And we soon see that they have exchanged colours again, with Pat wearing Pran's colour close to his under his shorts (@dimplesandfierceeyes pointed out a great little parallel with this to BBS ep 7 here). Note also Pran's yellow socks again - maybe this is the start of them matching their tops and socks 🤭

Jumping back to the night before and the dark green and brown of their tops could symbolise their fight - their stubbornness to not give in to the other becomes an obstacle to their happiness and they go to sleep disgruntled with each other.

But then the next night is a different matter, when they *ahem* test the structural integrity of the hut... Pat's love for Pran makes him always want to help Pran, seen in the yellow of his top, and they end up unified again (shaking the hut) as symbolised by all the teal and mint green (do we include the Nong Nao mask in this? 😄).

The next day, Pran is in his own red, perhaps feeling back to himself again after pulling away from Pat...and Pat is confusedly in the strange 'Aou from Vice Versa' outfit above 🤷🏽‍♀️ (sometimes clothes are just clothes 😏) Later, Pran wears yellow stripes (in front of a yellow lantern) whilst singing about his and Pat's love. Pat's also in stripes and the blue could add to his confidence as the 'engineering top-notch'. The green, however, is quite neutral - a 'primary' green, neither good (lime, mint, or teal) nor bad (forest/olive), and maybe this alludes to the draw he eventually has with Phupha and that the outcome of their drinking was neither good nor bad.

Incidentally, I liked that Pat woke up on a bed of red, initially thinking he was with Pran, and on top of another mat that looks yellow and blue, and was covered by a blanket in his own blue. With the amount he loves Pran, it's not hard to see that he wouldn't have cheated on him, even blind drunk (the same maybe could be said for Phupha with Tian).

It was interesting that Phupha and Tian also wore teal whilst Pat and Pran were trying to get them back together...and they might have succeeded if it hadn't have been for the letter - perhaps Tian's olive green pants and Phupha's camouflage allude to this...or, going back to @respectthepetty's interpretation of lighting, the fact that the lighting is quite cold here could show that the night would not end well for them.

And so on to the brown on Yod and Kampung - perhaps showing Phupha yielding to Pat's challenge, and Pran yielding to Tian's desire to walk to Pha Pun Dao. It's a nice touch that it looks like Yod has a dark blue shirt over the top of his brown (whilst with Pat) and Kampung has the red jersey (whilst with Pran).

And lastly, we end on olive/brown and camouflage - symbolising the trouble ahead for both couples (and for our sanity) and the sacrifice that they might have to make. (Or, you know, it just makes sense for them to be wearing this because they're forest rangers 🤷🏽‍♀️).

[ep 1] [ep 2] [ep 3] [ep 4] (<- I'm being hopeful)

#bad buddy #our skyy 2 #our skyy 2 x bad buddy #our skyy 2 x a tale of thousand stars #colours in our skyy 2 bbs x atots #despite the reams I write in these posts I inevitably forget something #like with the potential significance of wai's clothes in the tent in ep 1 #(I'll edit that into to the post later - thanks kk for the reminder)#uservid #mjtag #usernuria #userjjessi #userkit #user111 #tosnimeat #<- in case you're interested!#no worries if not #colours in our skyy 2 bad buddy #and I have learnt my lesson with aof and am determinedly NOT making any theories from the ep 3 trailer

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freensrcha · 1 year

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By the way, did the kid next door join the contest too ? I have no idea. I'm sure he will. Remember when you were a drummer ? He followed you around everywhere carrying his guitar. What a jealous kid. They're all jealous of us. Don't talk about them like that, Papa.

BAD BUDDY REWATCH: EPISODE 2

#badbuddyrewatch #bad buddy #bad buddy the series #asianlgbtqdramas #bb ep 1 #userbillkin #usernuria #userconcrete #userkit #uservid #ninisdarlings #tosnimeat #hipranparakul #aksjasdj i finished this during my maths class. talk about priorities ✌#not the most fond of this one but whatever ig #111gif #typ

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fluffyblue-multifandommess · 15 days

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not me seeing the episode title "Buck bothered and bewildered" and jumping to "buck bi???" 😭

#please i want buddie to be canon so bad #but i know it's not realistic #im sure the ep is about something completely different and unrelated #9-1-1 #911 fox #blue fandom ramblings

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thequeenofsastiel · 2 years

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What I love about this is that even though it's ostensibly supposed to show us that they're childhood enemies, all that's really happening is Pat is being loud, realizes that it's bothering Pran, and closes his window. What we're seeing is Pran being annoyed and Pat trying to be considerate of that. It's showing the opposite of what the voice-over and music is trying to imply.

This show was so good 😭😭😭😭

#they were setting us up from ep 1 #bad buddy #patpran #pranpat meta #pranpat #I blame vice versa for making me think about bb again

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hereforlou · 1 year

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BAD BUDDY WEEK - DAY 3 Favorite Scene: I love this scene on ep 1 but I love it even more in context, when we already know everything about these two and we go back and watch this first proper interaction after Pran’s been away. I like to think most of it was for Pat’s dad’s cameras’ benefit, but also not - when words fail, competing is just what they’ll always fall to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#bad buddy #bad buddy fanart #badbuddyweek #an art tag #i dont have time to finish any of these but here you go #also did Pat only eat ice creams on ep 1? seems like a missed opportunity for ep 7 pat

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telomeke · 1 year

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MY SCHOOL PRESIDENT – TINN AND GUN'S PET NAMES FOR EACH OTHER

At Ep.5 [2/4] 5.10 we saw that Gun's pet name for Tinn in his phone is "ไอ้ประธานนักเรียน!!"

Phonetically this is pronounced something like "ai prathaan nakriian!!", where the "ai" is a rude honorific to address guys, and "prathaan nakriian" means "Student President".

The "ai" honorific can also be used as a vulgar curse by placing it in front of a fierce animal's name (so thai-language.com tells me).

AND it can also be placed in front of a pet's name, to denote affection when calling that pet.

This has come full circle in Ep.6 when we see Tinn's pet name for Gun in his phone (Ep.6 [1I4] 3.25):

Tinn's pet name for Gun is "เจ้าหนูชินชิลล่า", which is pronounced something like "jao nuu chinchilla". The "nuu" literally means "mouse" and is also the same "nuu" in "khun nuu" (คุณหนู) that Chanon calls Nuengdiao in Never Let Me Go, and that the bodyguards call Tankhun in KinnPorsche ("khun nuu" means something like "Young Master").

Google tells me "jao nuu" can also mean "youngster" but I don't see it in the dictionary though.

In Thai you can call a chinchilla a "nuu chinchilla" (literally a "chinchilla mouse", the same way you call a hamster a "nuu hamster", literally a "hamster mouse").

The parallel with Ep.5's "ai" is that "jao" can also be placed in front of a pet's name to denote fondness. So Tinn is affectionately calling Gun "jao chinchilla mouse", the way pet owners actively cutify their pets' names sometimes.

BUT IT GETS BETTER.

The "jao nuu" part (เจ้าหนู) is also teasing slang for a boy's penis (something like when you call it a wee-wee, making it cuter, rather than dirty).

So Tinn's pet name for Gun is also "Chinchilla Wee-Wee". 😝

SQUEEEE!!! 🤣

#my school president #pet names #school president dude #chinchilla baby #chinchilla wee-wee #tinngun #tinn tinnaphob #gun guntaphon #wordplay in thai bl #for comparison‚ in bad buddy ep.11 [1/4] uncle tong was affectionately calling junior “juu”#“juu” and “gra juu” are also teasing terms for a boy's wee-wee #at bbs ep.11 [1/4] 10.38 uncle tong calls a sulking junior “khun gra juu” which is teasing sarcasm for “mr. wee-wee”#lightly reminding junior of his place AS junior to the adults‚ and that he should behave himself #this is why pat chuckles at ep.11 [1/4] 10.39

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