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#bad in and of itself it IS very telling that people support an mv where the idols are just playing a part and leave openly gay idols
beautifulpersonpeach · 11 months
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We couldn't just be happy that Haegeum, after all the struggles, debuted at 58 on hot 100. Can we?
Yoongi biased Ot7s tweeting "did that without collabs, remixes, multiple versions….." "Agustd paves the way"…
Who are they shading? Jimin for releasing multiple versions? JK for collabing with western artists?
This whole ot7 is a myth.
How are you shading multiple versions/remixes when the most successful Bts song, Dynamite, that charted for 32 weeks inside hot100 had 11 versions/remixes. One A side and one B side mvs. Had vinyl, cassettes and Cds.
And western collabs are a drag? We have Boy with Luv and MU right there being successful.
My Astronaut didn't have remixes or multiple versions either and it debuted at 51. So Yoongi biased armys, humble down already.
And the person they are shading the most, Jm. SMF p2 with no CDs, remixes and multiple versions debuted at 30 on bb100. If SMF P2 had CDs like Haeguem and The Astronaut, it would have debuted inside top10 for sure. People need to stop being bitter about Like Crazy.
This is what leads to more division in the fandom.
Yoongi is not my bias, I am not into his music. But I bought and streamed for him. We wanted that hot100 debut so bad for him. These kind of talks are so disappointing.
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You probably typed this out thinking it's a very normal and sensible thing to say lmao, but all it shows is that you're getting sucked in.
Listen, I understand you feel very passionately about the member you love, and I understand in fandom spaces this can be hard to put into practice, but, just... try to be normal. The fandom isn't filled with people who hate Jimin, he would not have gotten any of his chart accomplishments if that were true, defaulting to thinking a common mindless comment made for many achievements is targeted shade at Jimin is more a reflection of how you think OT7 Yoongi-biased ARMYs view Jimin, it's more a reflection of the siloed environment you're in where you see JM constantly targeted, than based on anything that's actually happening in the wider fandom.
One thing that amuses me about all this, is that people who act like this don't seem to realize they're creating a self-fulfilling prophesy. That they're directly creating the environment they claim they're fighting against. It's the same mentality with shooters, solo stans, and mantis. This isn't to say there couldn't be Yoongi-biased people saying that to shade Jimin, I'm certain his solo stans and the akgaes of other members could say that to target Jimin, but by defaulting to thinking it is targeted shade at Jimin by OT7 ARMYs (when it of course could apply to other groups/people besides Jimin), you're heightening suspicion on regular ARMYs, who to counter that will become ultra defensive and level that suspicion back on Jimin-biased ARMYs, and you're doing all that while needlessly victimizing your bias. You've apparently identified "what leads to more division in the fandom", without realizing that you're inadvertently contributing to that division with all the above.
Lol.
This is how y'all create the circus that is fandom.
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One more thing.
You know, when I say I don't particularly care about charts, I actually mean it. Like, I understand how the charts work, I know what they imply for BTS and I stream, donate, buy so other fans can access their music and to better support fandom efforts, but arguments over chart placements between the members, and how xyz did this at abc, etc, whatever all of that is, I genuinely do not give a fuck.
I couldn't tell you where Joon, Hobi, etc debuted on the charts unless I go back to check it, and in about a month I'd probably have forgotten where Yoongi charted. Jimin's #1 will remain top of mind simply because of how rare and monumental it is, but I've forgotten everything else. I read all of what you wrote Anon, and it amuses me that I'm reading this in the same fandom space that until June 2022, prided itself on not caring about charts like those 'crazy chart-obsessed Twitter ARMYs'. Lol. BTS solo era started and suddenly the shippers, who often operate more like solo stans of the people they ship, suddenly care about donating, streaming, buying, chart accomplishments, etc, than they did a mere 6 months ago.
Lol.
Anon, I've got a few more asks like yours in my inbox (I posted yours because you seem actually coherent). All the asks are people getting up in arms about this or that person saying this/that about Yoonmin's solo debut, promotions, chart placements etc. You and the rest who are talking like this might not realize it now, but you're getting sucked in. There's only one thing you sound like, and only one place you're going to end up with that line of thinking. It's easily one of the most predictable pipelines in fandom. You can call yourself whatever you like, but take it from someone who has been here long enough, keep going on like that and you're only going to end up in one place.
And like I've said before, I have no qualms letting dead weight fall off.
Goodluck to you.
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xumoonhao · 3 years
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all u straight girls who lost your minds over the mv for libidO better start supporting openly LGBTQ+ idols or else
#the amount of ppl ive seen applauding it for ~gay rep~ while openly gay idols/singers struggle? horrendous. disgusting. i HATE y’all#and...alright. i wasn’t gonna talk abt the mv but just gotta.#i GET why ppl are calling it that bc it is! its undeniable that it portrays gay characters/relationships in a way that is genuine#and that’s good! that’s a step in the right direction! but the idols are also Not Gay so it really is just an act which...that’s not#bad in and of itself it IS very telling that people support an mv where the idols are just playing a part and leave openly gay idols#out in the cold in terms of support and recognition. that’s where i have a problem and where i know so many ppl calling gay rep are just#fetishizes repackaging themselves bc hey! if they support this and its a more genuine portrayal then that’s great right! but it’s not. y’al#are STILL being freaks. stop that.#and...obviously this is coming from a limited lens bc i am in fact white + bi so my point of view is very limited in the grand scheme#if things but i do understand same-sex attraction and how that is fetishized and used in ways to simply garner views but...what I’m tying to#say is that mv isn’t the first mv to do this and it won’t be the last. all I’m asking is to give the same support to actually LGBTQ+ idols#and not just ones who play the part in an mv. that’s all I’m trying to get across#ALSO. this has been beaten to death but stop being so weird over the mv. the members seemed happy and comfortable while doing it#and (to my understanding) they have some creative freedom over their choreo so stop being so uppity. please. for all ive said here#the mv did do something unique so uh...yeah. anyways just....idk. stop being freaks. support gay idols. be good pole#that’s a lot of words. bye <3#anni.txt#onlyoneof#kpop
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thoughts-on-bangtan · 3 years
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Memories of 2020 - Initial asks and a small discussion
*cracks knuckles* Here we go.
If any of you have spent any amount of time today on any ARMY sns platform, I’m sure you’ve seen the mess which, as seasoned ARMY, I can tell you was the exact same mess we see...every single time. I can’t particularly say I’m surprised by any of it, especially when watching the entire process, as in the first clips hitting the TL and then the rest slowly following suit like a flood building steadily as the hours went by.
From anon: be ready for insecure vminies 😂
I’m pleased to report it wasn’t actually as bad as I expected, though now that I’m typing this I probably jinxed my own luck and the flood of asks will come soon enough, but maybe not. I’m holding on to the latter.
Based on the cycle in which these things happen every time, as in that the first clips that hit the ARMY spaces are Xkook ones, followed by vmin and other ships, and lastly more OT7 content, I expected our asks to go haywire after that clip, you know which one I mean. But we’ve only gotten two (?) about it, kind of, so I guess most people understood that it was just for laughs and nothing serious that anyone would have to get insecure over.
From anon: Sigh. This is my first memories of bts as army and i'm already tired of how all of twitter seems to be about 1 j*/k*ok moment now. There were so many j*n/kook m*ments and hugs and a sweet h*pe/k*ok backhug moment and a good number of vmin moments including slow dancing so why is the focus always on that one ship?
Here’s the thing, maybe my TLs are just well curated, I don’t know, but on mine no one really focused on that moment? Even non-shipper OT7s just briefly had a chuckle and then moved along to other things, awww’ed at vmin moments, there was lots and lots of talk about J*nk*ok being super cute and there being so much content when it comes to their interactions, there was a lot of chatter about basically every duo and OT7 moment. I know ship specific spaces went nuts, Xkookers butting heads like their lives depend on it, but outside of them?
“All of twt” is an exaggeration and I know, believe me I do, that Xkookers have the ability to make it seem like everyone just cares about their moments because they themselves (the shippers) are loud and seemingly everywhere, but when you look past them, that isn’t the case. Shippers have a tendency to generalize, especially those who follow a lot of their fellow shippers, but when you step outside of shipper spaces, things look very differently.
Like anon said, though I’d like to preface this by saying that I haven’t seen the entirety of Memories of 2020 so I can only go by what I have seen though I’d say I’ve seen nearly everything that was posted on twt or at least as much as I could find (including Xkook things), there were a lot, and I mean a lot, of amazing moments between basically all the members, regardless of who your favorite duo might be, I’m sure there was something for you there. Even those who are supposedly a rarity. And even as vminnies, this time around we had a feast with so many amazing vmin moments, some funny ones, some random ones, some super cute ones, whatever you want, there is something there for you to find. And the same can be said about so many other duos, we even got Yoongi and Hobi FaceTiming each other, and Yoongi saying they look like a couple while looking at the pictures Hobi chose for the coffee truck he sent to Yoongi’s Daechwita MV filming set.
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There’s one discussion I’d like to get out of the way below the cut, but after that I will have another post very, very soon in which I want us to just have some fun and look at vmin, namjin and the other moments because there is just so much to find. And this is just day one of people having the DVDs, these discussion will continue for a while because, like I mentioned before, Memories are a treasure trove for OT7 content and fun stuff, and there’s more than eleven hours worth of it to be watched, discovered and discussed.
But, okay, let’s get into that moment since anons wanted to talk about it and know my thoughts on it, so let’s do just that. And yes, other anon from a while ago, I remember you once mentioning how I shouldn’t talk about other ships and shouldn’t “debunk” them and their moments, though I’d hardly call this debunking, but as I said many times since our first post, I’m ARMY before I am a vminnie and namjinist, and our blog is called thoughts on Bangtan and, as far as I’m aware, both JK and Jimin are part of Bangtan, so I don’t see a reason why I can’t show my perspective on it and also voice my grievances with shippers when it comes to that moment. And, before anyone comes into our asks to yell at me for being toxic/problematic or only doing this to make my ship look better or whatever, no, that isn’t the point, like at all. 
“Debunking” moments makes literally no difference whatsoever in the grand scheme of things and doesn’t affect reality, all I am doing is having a chat just like everyone else. I’m not even asking you to agree with me, you’re more than welcome not to, I can’t and won’t stop you. Also, just so you know, my initial reaction was just to laugh amused by it, no hard feelings, so I’m not the bad guy.
That being said...the Xkook moment.
Here’s the thing, when it first surfaced many hours ago, the moment itself was cut down to show just the moment of Jimin leaning close to JK and JK leaning back and turning his head away so his cheek faced Jimin...and cut, some even cutting off the video before JK turned his head. That’s it. People, as in shippers, freaked out, and everyone else had a good laugh and moved along to other things, even vminnies were joking about it and everything. I saw none of my fellow vminnies getting angry or insecure about it. Then, as time went by, someone else posted that scene but this time also showing the things leading up to it, so putting it into context instead of removing it. With the context suddenly the whole thing looked and felt completely differently since moments prior Jimin was pretending to stab JK with the pointy end of his mic and then acted as though to check if he was d*ad, as in the end of the scene. Turns out it was just for giggles and not some grand romantic moment in a room full of people and a camera close to their faces.
By that time, of course, those who cared most about that moment had long decided what meaning this holds and didn’t care once context was shown. Gifs and art had already been created, the yelling was loud, and the fights between Xkookers were reaching levels of toxicity I hadn’t seen in a while, which was disgusting and fucked up the say the least. But, the thing is, I don’t think the moment itself was the issue. In context and as rational ARMY you know it was just Jimin playing around with JK as they usually do, things we’ve also seen other members do in similar (though not quite like this) fashion, and after eight years since debut and nine of knowing each other, this isn’t shocking or new in any way. No, the issue were Xkookers and the way they treated this moment, some even going as far as taking screenshots and editing them to make it seem like they were about to kiss, as in they changed the placements of their heads to fit their narrative, as well as others making gifs where they play the moment backwards (leaving out the part where JK leans his head away and to the side) and thus they created their own version of the moment which was different from what had actually happened.
That is my biggest issue with this whole thing. The blatant manipulation of moments to create narratives that don’t match reality, twisting them and using them in stupid pointless fights. But imagine vminnies were to do any of that, all hell would break loose and we’d be attacked without mercy because how dare, and yet they don’t follow their own “logic” and “rules”. It’s more than okay to find any and all moments cute, we all do, to make jokes and whatnot, but twisting context, manipulating it and basically creating your own version of it goes too far. 
Take what we are given as what it is, instead of what you want it to be.
So, now that that’s done, please fellow vminnies and ARMYs, don’t be insecure or let people ruin your mood and fun over it. It’s not worth it. Instead let’s check out and have a talk about some of the fun vmin and OT7 moments we got, along with other ones, including my reply to another anon when it comes to namjin. Of course what I will mention in the post (HERE) is basically just the tip of the iceberg since tumblr has a limit on pictures and everything, so just know there is so much more still left to see than just that.
Before I’ll go, for those who still feel a little insecure/doubtful/whatever else, while I was working on this post and the other one, another anon sent in this well timed vmin ask:
From anon: I have to say this as a Vmin supporter. Whatever is going on with Vmin we can rest assure what they is special/untouchable. They graduated HS & college together, going for Bachelors together. Jimin-ah I like you the most. I want to live with my lovely Taehyung for the rest if my life. Their future is together, friends/soulmates or more they said it. I won’t tear down other members closeness (good for them) their bonds don’t erase Vmins. I’m just happy with the moments Vmin allow us to see.
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dubububbles · 4 years
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SHINee scenario: idol s/o asks them to collaborate for their comeback song
(I want to request an idol gf scenario to you asking them to collaborate for your comeback song. Thanks a bunch! I love all your scenarios and they’ve picked me up when I had a rough day (same day i found your blog) so thank you so much!)
Requested by anon 
- you’re welcome! ❤️ & thank u for your sweet words! I’m really happy to hear that, it’s why I wanted to do this blog, to make myself and anyone else feel better or smile. I hope this one can also bring some joy to you~ ❤️
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Onew: 
“Oh? Why are you here?” You blinked in confusion as Onew stepped inside your dorm uninvited and approached you with a grin. He seemed to be up to something, at least judging from his expression, and it made you feel even more lost. “Did something happen?” 
“I have something to tell you.” He said and grabbed your hand to pull you over to the couch. If he wouldn’t be smiling so much, you would’ve thought he was bringing you bad news. 
“Okay, now you are scaring me a bit… seriously, what’s going on Onew?” 
“It’s nothing bad. In fact, it’s something I think will make you very happy.” he said but you still had no clue what he was about to tell you. “Do you remember when you asked me if we could do a collaboration for a comeback sometime?” 
You quickly realized what he was hinting at and widened your eyes a bit. “No way… can we?” 
He nodded with a proud grin. “We can and we will. I pulled some strings and got us a comeback date schedule for November this year. It should give us enough time to-- ooof!” his words were cut short as you more or less knocked him over in a messy hug.
“Thank you, thank you, thank you! You are seriously the best boyfriend ever!” 
Onew smiled at those words and hugged you back tightly. He then spent the rest of the day in your dorm as you both talked about possible ideas for your new comeback. 
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Jonghyun: 
Jonghyun perked up with a grin when you entered the studio and instantly opened his arms for a hug, which you gave him, along with a kiss, and then sat down. 
“You said you had something to show me?” 
He nodded and turned to the computer screen. “I made a demo for our new song and thought you should hear it first.” 
“Oh? Our song?” you blinked a few times and then pointed back and forth between you, to clarify that he was really talking about the two of you, which made him laugh. 
“Yes, our song, y/n. You were the one who brought up the idea for us to have a collab and asked me about it. Remember?” 
You did remember but you didn’t imagine that he would actually make it possible and also have a song ready for you within such a short period of time. He was honestly amazing. 
“How did you compose a song this quickly?” 
“I was thinking about my beautiful girlfriend and it basically wrote itself. Now, do you want to listen to it or not?” 
He teased you with a playful grin and then played the song. While you were both listening to it he also wrapped his arms around you in a loose but comfortable embrace. 
The song had an upbeat feel and fit into the neo-soul genre, along with some of his other masterpieces, which you thought would suit both of you really well. You could already picture how your MV, comeback stage, style and more would look and it made you feel really excited.
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Key: 
The idea of having a collab with your boyfriend appeared in your mind randomly one night as you were watching different performances on youtube, specifically some clips from Key’s musicals and his performance of ‘bang bang’ with Tiffany back in 2013. 
He really pulled off the musical theme well and you couldn’t help but imagine what it would be like to perform that kind of song together with him. You continued to watch more performances like that and couldn’t let go off the thought, so you eventually reached for your phone and called him. 
“Why are you calling this late? Are you having trouble sleeping?”
“Yes, because of you.” you said along with a small huff. “I was watching some of your performances.” 
“Oh, really? Which one? Born to shine?” he questioned on purpose, since he knew how that particular performance affected you. 
“What? No! N-not that one…” you said and blushed at the mere thought of it. “I was actually watching some of your musical theatre stuff and it made me wonder if we could ever perform something like that together… like… for a comeback?” 
Key perked up at the suggestion and then smiled to himself, since he thought it was a good idea. He also found it cute how you brought the question to him in a shy manner. 
“Sounds good. Let’s do it~” 
“Oh? That was easier than I thought.”
“Why? You thought I would refuse?” He asked and chuckled a bit. “I would love to perform with you y/n. That shouldn’t come as a surprise.” 
You smiled but felt really happy with his words and spent the rest of the night talking about what type of performance you wanted to do.
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Minho: 
“When are you going to have a solo album?” 
Minho perked up at the sudden question and then turned to you with a warm smile. “Why are you asking me that out of the blue?” 
“Because…” you trailed off and then frowned a bit to yourself. “I think some people don’t appreciate your vocals enough and you also didn’t have enough room to show it off. It’s not fair, since some people, like me, actually do appreciate it and want more of it. So, therefore, I think you should have a solo. That’s all...” 
Minho chuckled a bit at your words and how you delivered them in a stubborn manner. He also felt really grateful that you always found subtle ways to compliment or support him. 
“I appreciate that y/n but I don’t know if I would want to perform all by myself. It’d feel odd.” 
“Hm then, why don’t you have a collaboration?” 
“Oh? With you?”
“Ah well… yes?” you blushed a bit but also felt excited at the idea of it. Before he had even said anything about it, you already started thinking of what type of genre your song would have, what the lyrics would be about and where you would film the music video. 
“y/n?” 
Minho eventually had to wave a hand in front of your face to get your attention and when he did he smiled and told you that he was definitely on-board with the idea, which made you smile and then hug him tightly.
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Taemin: 
“Taemin, do you think we could have a collab sometime? You know, just you and me?” 
Taemin perked up at the question, since he had actually been thinking about the same thing but just hadn’t gotten around to asking you yet. When you brought it up first, he felt really happy and didn’t hesitate to agree. 
“I’ve actually thought about that too. So, we should definitely do it when we have an opening between promotions.”
“Really?” you asked and then smiled in excitement. “Then, what type of concept do you think we should do?” 
“Hm, well… I think it would be interesting to do a dance performance. I mean, a performance where we would tell the story through our dance instead of the lyrics. What do you think?” 
You definitely liked the idea and also found it unique. Taemin had performed modern dance in his songs in the past, so you thought it would be cool to do something similar to that but as a duo. 
Both of you would often sing or dance together for practice or during your free time, so to do it as a comeback, on an actual stage and with an original song sounded very appealing to you and filled you with happiness. 
You were both the main dancer’s of your respective groups, so you definitely had the ability to pull off something amazing and you could hardly wait to do so and take the whole K-pop community by storm.
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todpolle · 3 years
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A Hat In Time Review
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This was a game I wanted to play for a while. I would’ve gotten it on Steam since that one has mod support, but I didn’t think my laptop could handle it and that has trouble with RPG Maker MV games. And I would’ve downloaded it on switch but the size was enormous. So I got a physical copy for my birthday instead which comes with Seal the Deal. So is it as good as everyone makes it out to be?
Story:
Hat Kid was on her way home from in her spaceship but as she passes a nearby planet, a member of the local Mafia comes to collect money. Hat Kid says no and the goon breaks her window which cause him, Hat Kid and her fuel source(Time Pieces) to fall onto the planet. So Hat Kid must get time pieces back so she can get home.
For the most part, this is an okay setup. Hat kid wants her Time Pieces back and nothing well stop from achieving getting them. Each chapter is a self contained story like helping this mustache girl take down the Mafia or helping these directors with their movies or just chilling on a cruise.
And of course the characters she meets are enjoyable too like the owls who are just passengers on a train and have no idea why the Conductor is filming what happens. Or the Captain who’s trying to manage a cruise ship with his crew of baby seals. And of course there’s the Snatcher who’s the devil and I like a good devil character.
Of course not every character landed for me. The crows got on my nerves really quickly with their constant questions. And... That’s it.
However, there is one major flaw and that’s Mustache Girl. Not that’s a bad character but that’s a poorly set up villain. Sure, the first chapter does a good job setting her up with her hatred for the Mafia and even becoming friends for a bit, but after defeating Mafia Boss, she just disappears from the rest of the plot until the end. And  the next time you see her, she has a castle that looks like something Bowser would make and has become judge, jury and executioner. I know she was advertised as the big bad, but it feels like they skipped several steps to get to that point.
And she’s the only villain that has this problem. Everyone else is either simple enough that deep motivation isn’t need(Mafia Boss, Empress) or they built up to the finale(The Directors, The Illness). And it kind of makes the ending ring hollow as while everyone was telling Mustache Girl to “get lost”, I was mentally going “Leave the girl alone, none of you are any better. And one of you is the devil!” And it rings doubly hollow when all the baddies except he unconscious mustache Girl are begging Hat Kid to stay like they became friends. When did that happen?
So yeah, Mustache Girl deserved better, and the ending isn’t as emotional as they wanted it to be. And a little message to any writer: If you want to have a point to your story, THE VILLAIN SHOULDN’T BE IN THE RIGHT!
Gameplay:
While I do have my issues this game, they’re mainly nitpicks and things I find odd. The biggest one is the dive. Not that you get knock back by hitting a wall cause that’s a punishment for doing it wrong. It’s when you land with a dive you just lay there til you jump or get hit and took me a while to get in the habit of jumping during every dive. Also, how come the Mafia goons are inconsistent with there health. like one might take one or two hits while another will take four. And why do they have more health when most enemy only take one hit. And finally, Snatcher makes a big deal about being blue, as if being blue was going to be the signal a boss was vulnerable, but only three of the bosses do this.
I think that’s all nitpicks. As for the main gameplay, you start in the hub where you can get use to the controls, try out some of you’re moves like the dive or wall-jump, and maybe take a dip in the sea of pillows and try out the horrible  swimming controls. After the first act, you get an umbrella to fight back which is fine, and much later a grapple hook to swing on hooks or traverse the Alpine Skyline. You can also walk on tightropes but they are tricky to land on and pretty easy to fall of if you miss up a jump.
You also have access to a few hats that give you powers like a hat that allows you to run faster, a witch hat that blows up certain boxes, a chill hat that’s mainly used to use the blue springboard, and a dweller mask that makes certain platforms disappear and vice-versa. While these are handy to get around and looking for goodies, they feel a bit underused in terms of the missions to get time pieces with only the dweller mask standing out. There’s also a hat to slow down time but you get that late into the game and it’s only used for one and a half timepieces so it’s barely wort mentioning. Might be useful during Death Wish.
Levels are also great with no bad level in sight, with lots of places to explore and later time rifts will appear leading to bonus levels.  Now I’m going to do something I haven’t done since my LEGO Island 2 review and list every level and give my thoughts on it and this time I’m going to point out my favorite part and at least one negative.
Mafia Town: A good starting level to get started with several places to jump around with. Still don’t understand why the Mafia has more health than any other enemy.
Dead Bird Studio: The most unique level in several way where every challenge takes place in self contained sections and you’re getting points to help one of the directors win. I also think this should Chapter 3 as you need to do the first two acts in Sub Con Forest to even finish it and I also think it’s a little bit harder.
Sub Con Forest: Honestly don’t have much to say other than Snatcher is a fun character. I do wish that Vanessa challenge was a bit longer. Felt it went by too quick.
Alpine Skyline: One of favorites, just you and four landmarks to reach and explore and no need to go back to the hub after every time piece. Would be perfect if it wasn’t for those annoying cat thieves that have to rob you before you can hit them.
Times End: I already mentioned my thoughts on the ending and how Mustache Girl is treated but the level and final boss itself were pretty good and fitting for a final level.
Arctic Cruise: Maybe it’s because I was on a cruise before but this level put a smile on my face despite the short length of the chapter overall. I didn’t mind that it didn’t have a boss and just a finale event but I did find my self hitting ever wall as I try to save everyone and died three times trying to save the captain.
Nyakuza Station: I don’t get why this is a free-roam level as it’s very linear since you need metro passes to get to the other sections. Maybe because not much changes for each time piece. There are also several shops where you can buy new colors and hats as well as health with humorous flavor text. I would say this is a good level if Rush Hour wasn’t the worst finale and I mean that. Just going through parts of the station you already played while occasionally being block by the Empress who’s the easiest boss in the game
Also there’s Death Wish mode and I put my toe in and pulled out. This is a mode for players who want a real challenge only.
Presentation:
The soundtrack is amazing. Each chapter has it’s own theme that they remix for the different locations and situations you get into and they are real ear worms. Mafia in particular is such a catchy tune that when I first heard it, it has never left my head and I never want it to leave. Wish the soundtrack was on Band Camp cause I want to buy it.
This may be a Switch issue but graphics are fine but with some issues if you managed to notice. Like during the title cards, some parts look low quality like some shading on Hat Kids hat look square and some parts of the outlines look pixelly. I think people who know this subject better call this ‘compression’.
Their were a few other issues like while Hat Kid’s looked fine most of the time, during Nyakuza Station, when she has to give a time piece.her mouth looks like it’s made of squares. There’s also the odd stuttering during the title cards and later during my playthrough the game would freeze for a few seconds, making me worry my switch would crash.
Hopefully things like that wouldn’t be deal breakers cause the art design and voice acting are really good.
Verdict:
While I probably screwed myself with the Switch port, this is still a good game for people who like collectathons. Also there are penguins and owls. My two favorite birds. Of course it’s good.
8/10
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Fuck branding and consistency: For my precious Miami Vice, we’re going full 80s!
Miami Vice is a cop show from the 80s that helped usher in an era of neo noir and radically altered how television is cut and scored. It is both an ensemble crime show and a buddy cop show. The central duo are Sonny Crockett (Don Johnson, center) and Ricardo Tubbs (Philip Michael Thomas, on the left). They start out pointing guns at each other and end up best friends... with a detour through amnesia and attempted murder along the way.
Their boss, Martin Castillo, is played by Edward James Olmos, who has had the exact same death glare for his entire career as you can see above. Rounding out the main ensemble were two comic relief guys, Switek and Zito, and two women, Trudy Joplin and Gina Calabrese.
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Yes, they’re super hot, and I ship them too, along with the very obvious Crockett/Tubbs, but that is... not what the fandom shipped. More on that later.
MV had only a medium size fanfic fandom. As a source of annoying middle aged men who own that speedboat and still don’t wear socks, however, it is unparalleled. It was a mega-hit in its day but is largely ignored now.
As far as I can tell, the height of the slash fandom was just after the show ended, around the time Escapade was getting going. It was something that was in the air (hah) at the time but not popular enough to make it onto the program much. There were a scattering of vids and panels in that era, including:
1992 - Miami Vice (cops and music, right, well, maybe there's a little more here...)
Indeed there was, but you won’t find that out from most people! The cultural osmosis version of this show is deeply offensive to me, far worse than “womanizer Kirk” and its ilk.
I. How I got into the fandom
Miami Vice is a brilliant show, so far ahead of its time that it instantly dated itself and has been a subject of constant mockery by people who only know it vaguely from cultural osmosis during the 90s. Its revolutionary editing is what inspired me to go back to film school. Its cinematography is equally iconic. The soundtrack literally changed television forever. And no, children, synthesizer is not automatically a bad or cheesy instrument. Jesus.
I got into MV in 2010. I’d been reading about it in the first Film Noir Reader and had been intrigued by the black and white stills. I looked it up and found that it was a rare DVD release that secured all of the music rights, unlike the butchery of Wiseguy and too many other shows. I bought it on the spot.
It was a religious experience.
By 2010, even the little Yahoo Groups fandom it had eventually grown was long gone. The zine fandom certainly was. I started buying all of the used zines I could get my hands on. One thing stood out to me over and over: Rico, my favorite character, does have great fic, but it’s all gen and het. The slash zines treated him with absolute contempt. The only fan from the 90s slash fandom who had any clue how to write him was @flamingoslim​.
So I did what any fan would do: I got into her current fandom, Starsky & Hutch, and stalked her to her S&H con.
What?
II. Why didn’t fandom love Rico?
So why were the slash zines like that? Yes, okay, the answer is racism.
But the more zines I read and the more oldschool fans I’ve talked to, the more apparent it is that the way it played out is specific and interesting, not some generic “he’s not hot” thing. The big problem was that the slash zines came from a tiny handful of publishers, with the more popular ones coming from a single publisher. Looking at their editorials in the front of volumes, I see cartoons of the two of them dressed as their ship, Crockett/Castillo. I’m getting full on otherkin vibes from how they talk about that ship.
This was very clearly a case of hating the other man who got in the way of the OTP. Even so, the particular way Rico was written in many of the stories in those zines is incredibly racist. Flamingo writes him as a supportive best friend to Crockett. This was... not the norm.
This wouldn’t be such a big problem except that this was not an era when you just go on AO3 or even FFN and post whatever you want. Getting a zine together is hard. It takes money. It means finding a printer that is willing to print gay shit--something that can still be an issue in 2020. It means having a job and a lifestyle where being outed as a publisher of gay shit will not fuck you over. They were the only game in town, and their bad takes ruled the fandom.
Contrast to the gen/het zines: Rico wasn’t specifically more popular than other characters, but he wasn’t in the way of somebody’s OTP, so he shows up pretty often as a major character, written similarly to how he is in canon.
The gen/het zines are also just plain well written, making all of the characters more nuanced and interesting than in a lot of the slash fic. That’s what happens when you’re dealing with tiny fandoms and tiny numbers of writers: one or two great talents shape the whole feeling.
The other answer to why people weren’t super into Rico is simple: Castillo.
MV is a show full of buddy duos. And then there is the boss, a mysterious lone wolf whose identity only goes back a handful of years. He is aggressively moral and incorruptible, yet also executes a counter-revolutionary in cold blood rather than let the CIA take him back to South America to continue his reign of terror.
What, you think Castillo isn’t a murderer?
Hate to break it to you, but not only is he, but Rico is the one who found out and never reported him. It’s one of the most interesting moments between them.
I’m not surprised fandom wanted to ship Castillo with someone. I just wish people hadn’t only ever reached for Crockett/Castillo when Castillo/Tubbs has just as much great material. But if I get started on my ship manifesto for that, we’ll be here all day!
Suffice it to say that MV suffers from what lots of old fandoms do: people only rewatch certain parts, and it’s hard to remember which bits are fanon.
I’ve heard people say that Rico didn’t seem like he really cared about Sonny on the same level that the oldschool slash juggernauts did. I think this is a combo of not rewatching the episodes more heavily focused on him and of fandom liking a particular kind of woobie/enabler ship. Rico usually caved in the end, but he set boundaries in a way some of these ships never did. He was also portrayed with a particular kind of bragging confidence that is way more common in black characters. I think it reads wrong to some people, though in fact, he’s just as much of a ride-or-die bestie as the usual slash duos from back in the day.
The same thing happens with a lot of specific moments fic does heavily reference. Many significant Crockett/Castillo moments involve Crockett being the only one who can get through to Castillo, yet in those actual scenes, it’s Tubbs who does or it’s both Crockett and Tubbs.
Yes, friends who I will be seeing at Escapade, even that scene and also that one. You are just flat out wrong.
III. The Fanworks
First, my eternal rec. It’s het with an OFC. No, no, come back! MV was one of those fandoms where this was sometimes the best fic, and all the more so since the ship is with Castillo, he of the mysterious past and not enough personal connections.
Dark Side of the Moon by @dejlah​
I also really love Temper of Revenge by Mary Van Deusen. It’s one of three she did to the same song and it’s about the dark, dark ending for the comedy relief duo. If you’ve heard Francesca Coppa talk about vidding history, you’ll have heard of this vid. (No, we’re still not the same person.)
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I’m also a big fan of MVD’s Crockett/Castillo vid, Ready for the Times. It manages to perfectly capture the dominant fanon take on the ship. I can’t even put into words exactly why, but it brought back all that fic powerfully.
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This fan-made trailer does a good job of showing the kinds of twisty episodes he got:
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My first vid I ever sent to Vividcon was a Gina/Trudy one that gives a good sense of the awesome costumes and also how often they had to go undercover as hookers. (AO3)
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And finally, for those of you who don’t want to watch five whole seasons of 80s TV, I vidded that arc. (AO3)
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Wow, this is only like 15 screens. Practically a haiku when it comes to me talking about Miami Vice!
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El Star Maze Fan Meetup Translation
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Warning: It’s 51 min long -  translation start from 4:40
Raven: One, two, three MAZE: "No way out!" We're MAZE! Host: Aren't their outfit and concept just a fantastic combo? Wow, they're so cool! First of all, please tell us how you feel about meeting your fans for the first time! Raven: Hi, I'm Raven, leader and the dancer of MAZE. Thanks for coming all the way here on such a hot day. Ciel: Hi, I'm the rapper of MAZE. I'm so touched that so many of you showed up today. I'll try my best so you guys can have a great time. Ain: Hi, everyone. Remember my name? Yes, I'm Ain. Thank you for keeping your promise. I'll be together in your time today. 
T/L note: insert Ain's anime reference here
Host: I thought some of you were going to faint from Ain making a cheeky(?) comment there. Anyway, so many of you, our MIA are here today. MAZE is the first one to have their fan name decided, and this is our first fan meeting. Can you tell us why it's named MIA?
T/L note: “Mia” 미아 means "lost child" in Korean
Raven: MIA is the name of our fan club. Ain: It's from the name of our group, MAZE. It means that they are lost in us... MAZE. Raven: There were other good candidates for the name of the fan club, so it was really tough to choose. Ciel: But after seeing our fans were volunteering to become "lost children" for us, it made us like the name even more. Ain: Mr. Leader said he likes the name because he could feel the conviction from our fans. Raven: Uh.. yeah, that too, but it was a good opportunity for me to make my own conviction as well... that I should work harder for the fans that have become lost children for us. Ain: Hmmm, since our name means a literal maze... shouldn't we make them get lost even more? Raven: Uh... that's a little... Ciel: Hahaha... The maze our fans will get lost in will be the safest maze in the world, so don't worry. Ciel: Besides, we'll come find you no matter what. Raven: -Ehem- Uh... yeah. Host: Uh... MAZE saying that they'll be the safest maze for their MIA sounds so sweet. How about you guys? Host: As some of you already know from attending other ELSTAR meetups, but we're about to move on to the most anticipated moment of the event. We'll see how much love our idols can show our fans. Then, MAZE, please show your fans how much you love them! Raven: -Ehem- Uh, we learned something for today's special occasion. Everyone, I... I... Ain: -makes the heart sign with his fingers- Raven: I... I congratulate you for coming all the way here with your life still attached. Ciel: Geesh... Okay, Ciel will do something special. It's a little old-fashioned but I felt that this works the best for me. I look forward to your support, everyone! Ain: That... makes you look a bit old. Hmm, I heard humans show their affection this way nowadays. I learned it with Mr. Leader for today. How's this? I'll use both my hands. Host: Wow... Our MIA's are totally floored. Now, it's your turn, everyone! Show them how much you love them! Host: Let's talk about their debut single! It hasn't been released yet so I'm guessing a lot of you are very curious! for Mega Cake, the song was released before the event so everyone was able to cheer during the song and all, but the song is still shrouded in veil! Please let us know when the song will be released! Raven: Hmm, it's tomorrow. August 5th. Ain: That's right. I heard you will be able to listen to it from various streaming sites. Ciel: Whoa, I can't wait! I'd appreciate it if you guys can give it a listen. Host: Our MIA's can't wait! Everyone is curious about the song. Tell us more about it. Raven: The song is called 말야 ("you know"), "Reset" Ciel: It'll be a totally different song from TrinityACE and Mega Cake, but I think the song fits well with our image. Ain: Yes, it's powerful, but at the same time, like me, it's... Ciel: ...wut. Ain: It's very emotional. Host: Strong and emotional? I wonder what the song is like. Now let's take a look at the FIRST part of their music video! Host: The full version will be released on August 12th on Elsword's YouTube! So please look forward to it! Host: Are you ready? x3 Host: Please cheer on! Host: How was that, everyone? Host: I think the MAZE is so shocked by your response that they can't even speak! Ain: ...I'm just really tired from coming back from all that dancing. Raven: Uh... Thank you for liking it so passionately. Ciel: We did our best for our MIA's. How was it? I wanted to... -gets interrupted- Yes, yes, I wanted to show you a lot more, but it's too bad. Ain: But you can watch the full version next week. You'll wait until then, won't you? Thank you~ Host: I love their black outfit, but their white ones from their MV were good too. Don't you think so? Thank you for liking them. Now, let's talk about the song. Host: Apparently in the lyric, there is a part that says "even if I am born again, I'll come find you." Host: Also the part where they say they'll always remember the one they love was really touching. What do you think about the story, MAZE? Do the three of you also have someone important? Raven: Yes, you can say that I did... Ciel: -sigh- Raven... Seriously, what do you mean you "did"..? If you say it in a past tense, you make it hard for anyone to ask about it. Ciel: I also did have people who were precious to me. Of course, I do even now. Ain: I see, that's how it is for you two. Raven: Ain, you don't? Ain: Hmm, I don't know... I think our MIA's are important to me... Ain: ...is what I'm supposed to say as an idol, yes? Hahaha Ciel: You traitor... You wanted to worm your way out of this on your own! He sure knows how to be an idol... Host: Uh... yeah. Don't all of you want to be MAZE's important person? We want to hear your honest answers. Do you have the confidence to recognize the one you love even if you are reborn? Raven: That's a difficult question. I don't think... I can be that sure. But if there is a way to tell, then I'll do whatever it takes to make sure I can recognize them. Host: ooohhhhhh Ciel: I'm sure I can. Even if they're reborn and look different, I'm sure I will be able to tell. Ain: I'm sure you can, Mr. Rapper. There's no way there'd be two of such a d.... no, person. Ciel: -awkward laughter- Ain, you.... -angry- Raven: What about you, Ain? Ain: Hmm, well, I think it's a meaningless "what if" story. But if I had to give an answer, I feel like I will be able to tell. Ain: No matter the world we're reborn in, no matter what we look like, I'm sure I'll be able to tell if it's someone precious like our MIA's. Raven: So the two of you can be that sure, huh. Amazing. Ain: Amazing, isn't it? Ciel: lol Host: Okay, let's move on to the next question. It's a favorite question during fan meetups! What was the toughest thing you had to do during your preparation for the stage? Ciel: I'll tell you first. Hmm, let's see. Everyone was such fast learners, so it wasn't difficult during our practices. Raven choreographed the whole thing himself, as well as the movements and whatnot. Ain and I just had to follow his lead. Ain: Give him a round of applause. Ain: I said give him a round of applause. Ain: Yes, he's right. Mr. Leader worked out everything, but he also wasted no time in pointing out what we need to fix and improve on during practices. We got through the training really quickly thanks to that. Ain: Hmm, compared to other idol groups, it looked like we had spent less time practicing. Raven: It was all possible because everyone followed so well. Ciel: Thanks to that, I even had enough time to check on Lu although I was worried I won't have the time. it. It's all thanks to Raven. Ain: I heard it gets hectic after debut, but we had a relatively easier time thanks to Mr. Leader here. Ain: Right, Mr. Leader? Raven: I don't need a word of thanks from the two of you. It made me reflect on what makes a leader a leader. I... I think I have a lot to work on still. Ciel: Right, guys? I think you're the best leader, Raven. Ain: That's right. I agree. It can't be someone who's never around because they're taking care of someone else... Ciel: -awkward cough- Hey, I'm not the only one who disappears mysteriously from time to time. Ciel: But I agree that Raven is a perfect leader. Then majority rules... Raven is our leader forever! Ain: Haha, I guess it's decided then. Raven: Well, uh... I guess this is the toughest part of our preparation for the stage. Finding a way to improve things. Ciel: Geesh, just how much of a better leader are you trying to be? Ain: He's right. Host: Let's read the profiles of our MAZE! I'm sure you even memorized all of them! Host: Who should go first? Yes! Let's go with Raven first! Host: Let's see.. his favorite food is... different flavors of jerky? Raven: Yeah, we have a lot of different flavors nowadays, so it's fun trying them. Ciel: When we first met, he had a pile of jerky that I thought he was an alcoholic. Ciel: But after seeing him take out a bag of jerky anywhere anytime, I realized he just likes the jerky itself. Ain: What's your reason for only eating jerky even when we have a mountain of desserts in our house? Raven: It's not so much about the flavor, but I guess it's a habit from eating it so often since a long time ago. Host: Then... what's your favorite flavor now? Raven: Recently, I've been trying things like spicy, cheese, honey flavor... but I personally prefer tastes that have a good solid base. It tastes good every time I chew on them. Ain: Hmm, Mr. Rapper, do you know how to make jerky too? Ciel: Uh, yes, but... it takes too much effort to make them. I just wish he'll eat all the cookies and desserts. Why do you ask? Ain: I thought it'd be a better idea to make something each other can enjoy if you're going to cook. Raven: Hmm, but there's a website where I buy my jerky from, so it doesn't matter. Ain: Hahaha, okay. I'll just eat whatever I get then. Host: Can we know where this website is? Haha. Okay, maybe this is one of the most often asked questions, especially if you're a fan of Raven. Raven always has bandages on his left hand. Everyone's worried that you got injured. Can you tell us why you have it wrapped in bandages? Raven: Ah, sorry, but I can't. Ciel: Aw, come on, Raven. You can hear our fans being disappointed. You can tell them. We're okay. Raven: What does you being okay with it have anything to do with-- Ain: That's right. I actually know why too. Black Flame Dragon is sealed in his left arm... is it not?
T/N: Black flame dragon is an old meme.. it's a very uh.. chuunibyou thing... it's from (中二病でも恋がしたい!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1SxXB87v4Y
Ain: It's running rampant every time you're dancing, so you sealed it away with bandages, did you not? Raven: ... Ciel: What the heck are you saying? His arm actually... has a cute hedgehog clinging on it that he had to hide it with bandages. Raven: You're both wrong... so stop it. Ciel: How long are you going to keep it a secret? Raven: It's nothing serious, so you don't have to worry about it. Ciel: But we're seriously curious... Right, MIA's? Raven: Uh, I actually... it's because... Ain: You really don't have to be ashamed of your black flame dragon. Raven: Stop it because it's embarrassing. Ciel: You don't have to be ashamed of hedgehogs either Raven: Can we move on to the next question?Host: Our MIA's are disappointed, but let's move on to protect our Leader. It's Ciel's turn now! Host: So your hobby is to collect cute things, despite your dashing looks! Ciel: That's right! I love collecting cute dolls and things. I love Bebe bird, Phoru and Hedgehog dolls especially. I feel better whenever I look at cute things, don't you? Ain: I... I'm not sure. Ciel: You're not into it? What about you, Raven? Isn't the limited edition doll I gifted you cute? Raven: Uh... Uh... Huh? Uh yeah. The giant hedgehog doll? It's quite useful. I use it as a pillow. It's so soft. Ciel: What? ...It was my prized collection. I waited in line to get it since it was a limited edition... Ain: Hmm, sounds like you should've gifted him a bean bag. Ciel: No... if he's putting it to good use, then that's fine. Raven: Uh I'm sorry about that. Host: So he used a doll as a cushion... That sure sounds like Raven. Let's talk about Ciel's specialty! He's good at baking and shooting? Ciel: I've done both for a long time. Especially baking. I learned it from someone who was taking care of me before I became a manager. Ain: Oh... I see. Before you were a manager? It sounds like a long time ago. Ciel: It was when I was young... Let's talk about that at another time. Ciel: I'm really good at baking cookies and ice cream. Raven: Ah, yes. Ciel's cookies are my 2nd favorite thing after jerky. They look too fancy to eat sometimes, but they're as good as they look. Ciel: I care a lot about how they look as well as how they taste. I'm into making different flavors of hedgehog cookies nowadays. Ain: Ah, the red, blue, and purple hedgehogs? Ciel: Yes. I saw some merch of hedgehogs so I was inspired by that. Ciel: They all taste different! Ain: Ah... I see. Is that so? I liked the red one the most. Fans: -dies- Ain: I didn't care too much about the purple one. Raven: So that's why I only saw blue and purple hedgehog cookies. That reminds me, the purple one's leaf was all broken. Ciel: What? There's no way... Ain, was it broken when you were eating the cookies too? Raven: What did you say just now. Ciel? Ciel: Uh.. hedgehog cookies. What were we talking about? Hmm anyway, I'll bake them again. Ain: Heh, thank you. I said it before, but make extra red ones, please. Host: ...what did we see just now? Haha, uh I thought someone disappeared all of a sudden, but maybe that was just me. Whose turn is it now? That's right. It's Ain's turn. Ain's profile didn't have enough information, it seemed. Ain: Oh... is it? I thought I filled it out properly. See? Hobbies are reading books and watching movies. I don't have anything, particularly I like or dislike. I'm quite good at everything I do, and I love our MIA's. Ciel: What am I going to do with that guy... Raven: Uh... I'm not in any position to say anything on the subject, but it sure does feel like a lot is missing. Ain: Well, isn't this fairly generic? Raven: I don't think I've ever seen you read or watch anything though... Ciel: That's right. Ain: That's because... I do it when no one's watching. Ciel: Is it? Then what's your favorite scene? Ain: Haha, are you trying to make sure I get enough screen time? 
T/N Note: Ain is saying in a “by asking me so many personal questions? you don't have to, Ciel” tone
Ain: Hmm, let's see... ah, I like watching documentaries. I find it interesting how they've captured exactly how humans live. Uh, I read religious texts. I personally find them interesting. Ciel: Is... that so? I think I've seen him pray in the morning... Are you religious? Ain: That's... a secret. Raven: Uh, it's not a cult, is it? Ain: It's nothing strange, so there's no need for you to worry. Host: Ain's profile had something interesting. Ain: Yes? Host: So you give others nicknames? Is that why you call Ciel and Raven, Mr. Rapper and Mr. Leader? Ain: Oh, that's because... they asked me not to call them by their nicknames publicly. Uh, at our house, I... Ciel: Ain... Raven: ... Ain: Haha, I call them by different nicknames, but it's a secret, Ms. Host. It's a personal nickname. Raven: Yes, they're very personal... It's awkward for everyone to know... Ciel: Yeah, it's embarrassing. Ain: That's too bad that you find it embarrassing. I thought I did my best to give you guys fitting nicknames. No? Ciel: -sigh- Well, Lu said if you call her by her nickname again, she'll make sure you won't be able to set foot in the entertainment industry again... Raven: Ain, we're okay with being called by our nicknames, but maybe it's better for you to not call people by nicknames they don't want. Ain: Hmm.. but it's based on facts. Is it really that bad? Raven: Even if it's based on facts, it can hurt their feelings. Ain: I don't think I quite understand, but I should be wary of Lu's threat... Ciel: If Lu hears that, she'll flip out... You're going to edit this out, won't you? Host: Sure. Let's have a Q&A time! We're going to go over the questions we got on our social media. Let's look at our first question. Host: This is one of the most asked questions that everyone asked. Host: Everyone said it's hard to catch the three of you together, so they're worried that you guys aren't actually that close. Host: TrinityAce and Mega Cake were seen together often... Were you guys able to grow closer while you were preparing for your debut? Raven: Yes, we did. Each of us has our own personal things to worry about, but we were all busy with our debut. Ciel: Raven, if you say it like that, it sounds too business-like... You have to explain it in a way that shows exactly how close we all are. Raven: Uh.. is that so? I don't know how to put it... Hmm... we've gotten close to the point where we can't stop talking during meal times. Ain: Haha, that's true, but that's not the kind of closeness Mr. Rapper was talking about. Ciel: Wait, maybe we're the only ones that think we got close when Raven doesn't think that way? Ain: Oh, so you felt that way... but can you not loop me in that by saying "we"? Ciel: What? so I'm the only one who felt that way? Ain: I was kidding. Ciel: ...Uh, I guess we can say we've gotten close to a point where we can joke like this....? Raven: Ah, yes. I'm no longer taken aback by situations like this. Host: Haha... do they look like they're close? I guess they are. Moving on to the 2nd most asked question. So, we've never seen them together before. So, what exactly were you guys doing off on your own? Can you tell us? Ciel: Uh... uh... I feel guilty of this... what a straight-forward question... Ain: Mr. Rapper has a lot to feel guilty about. A bone-hitting question, no? Raven: You got hit in the bone? Are you okay? Ciel: Hey, that's not it! He means she cornered me with her question. Ain: Yes... it's a metaphor. Raven: I see... Where do you guys learn these things? Ciel: I learn from reading El Live comments. Our viewers are very expressive. Ain: Are we not going to answer the question? Raven: Ah, oh no. I was distracted. I normally practice or watch other group's dance videos when I'm alone. Ain: So that's why you were in the room all the time. Ciel: He likes to be a hermit sometimes. Ain: Right? Completely opposite of you, Mr. Rapper. Raven: Next up is you, Ciel. What do you do when you're alone? Other than taking care of Lu. Ciel: Ah... it's rare, but if I have some time alone, then I go to the shooting range or bake cookies. They have a lot of cute dolls as prizes in the shooting range. As long as I got no competition, I can get as many of them as I like. Ain: Whether it's spending time at the shooting range or baking cookies.... it doesn't change the fact that our house gets full of stuff. Ain: At this rate, the whole house is going to be full of cookies and dolls. Ciel: Fine, I'll try to get rid of them. Raven: Ain, it's your turn. Ain: Ah, is it? Are you guys looking forward to it? Ain: When I'm alone... it's a secret. Ciel: Ain, what are you doing? You can't say it's a secret. Ain: I was kidding, but... I said everything when I was talking about profiles earlier Host: That wasn't... such a satisfying answer... but we all know, don't we? I'm sure our MIA's all know what they were doing on their own. Host: Let's move to individual questions and not a group question. We've asked this during the previous fan meet up. Can you tell us your first impression and current opinion of each member? Staring with our leader. Raven: I felt comfortable when I heard Ciel is the same age as me. I was a bit nervous about the debut, but Ciel knew the ins and outs of the industry, so I knew I could count on him. But... it was a bit worrying that from the moment we met, our topic kept switching over to Lu... but, yeah. It made quite an impression on me how he ended up talking about Lu within 10 minutes of the first time we talked to each other. Ciel: I.. uh, sorry about that. Raven: But now I understand how much he cherishes Lu, and he's doing his job as a member of MAZE, so there's no problem there. Ciel: My first priority is always Lu. I feel bad about inconveniencing everyone about that. Raven: Don't worry about it. Lu is like our own member. I don't think it's a bad thing that you take care of her. Besides, you let us know before you go visit Lu now, so it's good. Ain: Mr. Leader, you're so understanding. Ciel: We're blessed to have such a wonderful leader, aren't we? Ain: Yes. Raven: I guess it's about Ain now. I had a good first impression of him. His skill was impressive, and he was also social unlike me... but maybe calling someone by their nickname isn't such a social thing...? Ciel: Ain is social...? Ain: Ahahaha... Do you have a problem with that, Mr. Rapper? Ciel: A lot. Raven: Well, I was surprised back then, but just as he said so on his profile, he's good at everything he does. He's an excellent member. Ain: Haha, thank you. Ciel: I guess it's my turn. Ciel: When I first heard that Raven, who is the same age as me, was going to debut with me I was surprised. I thought I was too old for an idol debut, but I thought maybe it's okay if he was doing it also...? Ain: Haha Raven: I never thought about that. Ciel: Well, like what Lu said, age doesn't matter. But regardless, I thought you may be strict but you're honest and hardworking, so you would be a reliable member if we debut together. Raven: So you had such a good opinion of me from the beginning? I'm a little embarrassed. Ciel: For Ain, I thought he actually doesn't like me... Ain: No way. Ciel: And when he met Lu, I thought he hated Lu even more than me. Ain: :D Ciel: But after some time passed, I realized he has his own problems, but he is a good guy after all. They still fight when Lu and Ain meet, but I let them fight cuz now it feels like it became their habit to fight. I asked Lu later and she said she doesn't really hate Ain either... believe it or not. Lu has more experience in the industry, so she likes to give her advice which I relay. Ain: But why does she care so much? She could pretend like she doesn't care.
  T/N Note: I don't know if Ain is talking about Lu or Ciel -_-
Ciel: Maybe you two have gotten too close to not care now...? 
T/N Note: I don't know if he's talking about himself or about Lu
Ain: I guess it's my turn?  Hmm, when I first met Mr. Leader, his bandaged arm made quite an impression on me. I thought he was injured, but he gave his all during practices and everything. Now, I... just consider it a strange concept he's adopted. Ciel: Wait, Ain... do you have anything else to say other than his arm....? Ain: Ah, I found it easy to get along because he doesn't talk that much, hahaha Raven: Noted... Ain: As for Mr. Rapper... Ciel: Hmm? What was the question again? Raven: Something about first impressions...? Ciel: Was that all? Ain: Seems so. Raven: Hmm... Ciel: What's wrong, Raven? Raven: It's not easy to meet our fans like this. I think today's memory will last a long time for me. So I'm trying to engrave it in my heart so I can remember it more clearly. Ain: So sentimental all of a sudden, Mr. Leader Ciel: Right...? Is he about to cry? Ain: Ah, maybe it's the black flame dragon in his arm and he's trying to hide it? Raven: It's not that... Ciel: We're kidding. We know how you feel. It's good to see you guys in person. Some of you MIAs' plushies are cute too. Can you tell me where you got them next time? Ain: ...You're hopeless. Ain: I guess that means your collection pile will grow bigger... Host: I guess that's inevitable if you live together in the same house. Host: It's time to end this Host: Let's hear from MAZE about how they feel. Raven: I was worried this fan meet up will be boring, but now I feel like it ended all too soon. I don't know if you enjoyed yourselves. But you'll still have the song and the MV to look forward to. I don't know about talking, but I'm more confident when I'm performing on stage. Ciel: Worrying about Lu's fan meet up feels like it was yesterday, but I guess now our own is about to end. I had a lot of fun being able to talk to you face to face in the same place. I think this was a memorable experience. Thanks for coming all the way out here. Next up... Ciel: ...uh, who was it? Who was it? Host: Do you remember who was next? Host: Please tell us who's next! Ain: Ahahaha... I'm sorry. I was too sad when I thought about how this was the end. Thank you for remembering me and waiting for me. Today's fan meetup ends, but our song will be released tomorrow, and MV next week... We'll have more to show you later, so I hope you'll look forward to them. See you later! -host tells people to tell MAZE w.e the fk they wanna say and people proceed to scream out their heart's desires- Raven: Today's such a hot day, so be careful on your way back. One two three, no way out! We're MAZE! Ciel: Bye everyone! Ain: Bye! Raven: See you next time.
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justicechoii · 5 years
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ya girl is back with her tiny boy justice choi !! lowkey when i saw yall reply under the acceptance, i was just thinking about new york aka the Queen tiffany pollard saying jUSTICE????? and it made me LAUGH. anyways im still a little hurt from the new twice and kard mvs so pls be kind to me and my soft boy as im feeling v vulnerable,, anyways for those of you who haven’t experienced me ( faith, 22, she/her ) and my boy yet,,, ur in for a Wild ride of him being insanely sweet and loving no matter hOW you treat him !! enjoy ur resident nerd !!!
    kim mingyu. he/him. cismale. ╱ i am pretty sure i saw justice choi at manon’s party that night. the twenty two year old is in their fourth year at west bridge studying biology. i hear they were at manon’s party because they were invited by a friend. i wonder if they got the same restricted call as us. will they comply? + never afraid to speak his mind, round glasses as he studies, five o’clock shadow always peeking through. ◜
justice was born to daehyun and daniella choi in des moines, iowa and is the younger brother of five other children -- so a huuuge family tbh
both of his parents were lawyers and his five older sisters all followed that pathway too, but from a very young age, justice knew he didn’t want to go into law at all. it didn’t interest him like it did with his older sisters, and he would literally rather do anything else
ya know that meme that is like "how do lawyers argue without crying", um hes been asking himself that question his entire life
they moved to wisconsin when he was five~
he was incredibly clumsy growing up, which forced him into the emergency room a number of times so doctors could tend to his needs -- every time he went?? he fell in love with that idea more and more: being a doctor.
he was a people pleaser from such a young age.. so why wouldn’t he enjoy that? helping people out, helping them get better? it was like a dream come true really. the whole death thing wasn’t necessarily a thing on his mind,, which was something 16 year old justice rlly had to come to terms with after numerous breakdowns asjdfhdsj
despite him trailing off and wanting to do something other than law, his family fully supported him and if he’s not in a classroom or in a library, he can definitely be found at choi & choi, his family’s business !!! if you’ve got 7 people who are lawyers, you may as well do something with it aksjdfhdsj
because he knows it’s his final year, he’s almost positive that he’s going to go on to train to go into emergency medicine~
he’s honestly the sweetest boy you’ll ever meet?? will never have a bad word to say about anybody and can always be seen with a huge smile on his face just to make other people happy
he’s a Nerd to the extreme and only recently started wearing contact lenses but??? he ?? hATES them !! tell him he looks good with glasses and boost his self esteem pls
he got invited to manon’s party by a friend bc lord knows he would never be seen at a party unless someone he was suuuuuper close to was there. he’s honestly had a little crush on manon for like,,,, ever. but he never said a word to her just bc of how popular she was and he was highkey intimidated
despite him being quiet, and not v popular, he’s never afraid to speak up for someone. i imagine he’s always had to play peacemaker because of how he was raised and how he can’t let one person say something without another speaking up, sorta thing
he’s just always Tired, always Working, and always in need of some fun and a friend or two !!
a comic book STAN
always playing video games if he has free time too
he also doesn’t know how attractive he is,,,, just had to add that in lol
random headcanons:
he has a crush on everybody so like,,,,,, get used to that bc he’s heart eyes around everybody but ofc that doesn’t go far !!
he appears much cooler on instagram and social media than he does in real life like most people tbh,, he has his days where he looks sO good,,, but if u talk to him, he’ll be an awkward stuttering mess lmao
he has cosplayed as spiderman before,,,,,,,, but lets not talk about that either bc he will go so red SDJFHHDS
has the biggest crush on valkyrie aka miss tessa thompson and prob doesnt shut up about how much he loves her pls
ask him to sing any kpop gg and he’ll know it all,,,, and prob the choreo to it too ,,, we love a STAN
always chewing gum bc it helps with his nerves and calms him down
uncle to three nieces and two nephews so he absolutely adoooores kids
he also wants to learn japanese but he’s struggling with korean as it is so he probably gets the two mixed up a whole bunch and then is like a deer in headlights if anyone witnesses him screwing up
just such a gentleman pls bOY was raised very well !!
um he's 6'2 so falling over his own two feet??? happens more than u think
also a ps4 stan so try arguing with him and he will BOUNCE for u ,, except not rlly bc its justice
potential wanted connections:
an ex: justice is such a sweet boy and he loves and loooooves. he’s not very materialistic at all, but i imagine he would do the most for this person and rlly treat them just to make them happy. we can talk about why they broke things off but it prob has to do with him working his ass off and having no time for the other~ he still very much cares about them tho ( open to f/m/nb !!! )
best friend: speaks for itself. they could be an opposites attract situation, or be two complete nerds!!
someone he studies with: someone he can rant to in the library or literally cry to bc biology is hard man
enemies: people prob just hate him bc hes so quiet lbr
crush: either with him thinking someone else is cute ( aka everyone ) or vice versa??
tutor: he’s highkey forgetting korean and doesn’t want his parents to know so if anyone can help him out there?? that’d be perf
i’m open to pretty much everything so feel free to send me any wcs you guys have!!
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gentlegravity · 6 years
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Some thoughts on Humility
At this point I'm sure everyone on tumblr has seen posts about 2D being possessed. The most obvious clue being his changed behavior and the whole thing with his eyes in the MV and from the live performance
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But what about the song itself? Let's talk about the lyrics.
This is heavily based on the theory of 2D being possessed and what clues could be found in the lyrics. It is a VERY long post so make sure you have the time if you want to read the whole thing. 
To make it easier I have numbered and titled the 9 main topics. Each topic also has one image so you could easily scroll to the one topic you would be interested in. If you don’t want to read all of it you should get the main points and arguments from just reading the bold text. 
Contents: 1. Themes 2. The left hand 3. Why is 2D feeling isolated? 4. Does 2D miss Murdoc? 5. The chess game 6. Ball of betrayal 7. Find me with good aim 8. Picking up what is broken 9. Does 2D WANT to be possessed? 10. Summary
1. Themes
Before breaking down specific parts we need to talk about the overall subject of the song and the title meaning.
The subject of the lyrics is isolation. You see hints towards it constantly, with the most obvious lines being very direct: “I don’t want this isolation”. Other lines include “I need you in the picture” and “Or do I head out onto the lonesome track and let you go?”. So how is this isolation presented in the song title?
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This is the title of the song. “The quality of not being proud because you are aware of your bad qualities”, this definition is from Cambridge English Dictionary. 
Damon Albarn has stated that “the melody of it connects me to that word. I don’t necessarily think that the lyrics are necessarily connected to that word, but they are informed by that word”. Meaning that there would be hints of humility within the lyrics.
The greatest connection I make is that whatever is causing the humility is probably also the cause of the isolation. And in this case, assuming 2D is possessed, that possession is probably the cause for his humility and isolation (probably self caused isolation). 
2. The left hand
Not counting the endless mentions of isolation, the first thing I noticed about the lyrics was “I’m alone between the left hand” 
Seeing as Humanz was political my thoughts immediately went to politics, but in politics you often hear the term ‘Left wing’ rather than hand. So I did a google search on left hand and found something really interesting. The term ‘Left-hand path’ is used to refer to black magic in some occult groups. Black magic is historically defined by practicing magic or supernatural powers for evil or selfish purposes. The definition is very broad and something that partially falls into this category is satanism and most importantly the invocation of demons. 
This is very interesting, and could further support the idea that 2D is possessed.
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Also, in the MV when he sings “I’m alone between the left hand” the first time, he extend his left hand to the struggling skater, but he is rejected. Maybe he somehow knows about the possession and he rejects 2D as a way of rejecting getting help from demons and the devil. 
3. Why is 2D feeling isolated?
As mentioned, the song is about isolation, and Damon Albarn has stated that the feeling of isolation belongs to 2D. In an interview on BBC he stated: “...I wanted it to be a real response to something I was feeling at that moment...” when talking about the record. Matt Everitt who was the interviewer asked about what those feelings were and Damon continued saying “I was feeling, you know in a sense, that I was becoming isolated from things”. Matt Everitt wants to confirm it further by asking “You were?”, which leads to Damon answering “No, not me, it’s 2D isn’t it?” 
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Now I have a few suggestions for why 2D feels isolated. The first suggestion is to further support the possession theory. He feels isolated because he is possessed. Whenever someone feels like they are different from everyone else they tend to feel isolated. And even though Russel has been possessed before, he’s not possessed any longer. There is nobody around right now that has the same problem he has. That is why he is calling out to the world. 
A second theory that he is feeling lonely because there is a specific person that’s not around. I’m pretty sure we all know the feeling of feeling lonely and isolated even among friends when that specific person isn’t around. The reason for why I think it could be about a specific person is because of the lines “I need you in the picture” and “I want you in the picture”. Both of those lines are followed by “that’s why I’m calling you”, which on its own would suggest he is talking about a specific person but... the song starts off with the line “Calling the world from isolation”, which, if you take it literally means he is talking to or about the entire world. However, they could be unrelated. 
So if that is true, then who is this ‘specific person’? I’m sure you all considered the thing I did, Murdoc. Seeing as he is the only known person who is away right now it would make sense... if Murdoc wasn’t an abusive piece of shit. It’s still a possibility though and I discuss it further below. 
4. Does 2D miss Murdoc?
Popular opinion says no. It’s no secret that Murdoc has been really abusive towards 2D over the years, ranging from unnecessary yelling or insulting him to straight up kidnap him or stealing his organs. So why the hell would 2D miss him? The simple and short answer is, because of the band. It is possible that 2D feels uncomfortable and like the band is ‘wrong’ without Murdocs presence. Murdoc is after all the one who started everything and he is the one who keeps pushing and he is probably the one who’s trying the most in terms of making the band successful. He brought everyone together, he had that radio show to promote the band as well, and he made deals with the devil in order to make them more successful. The other members are described to just, chill and write music. So when Murdoc is replaced, the band would change drastically. In that sense, 2D could be missing Murdoc because of how the band has changed. It is from a band pov rather than his personal life and experiences with him as a person pov. 
The reason why I ever even thought of this is because of the 2nd verse.  
Murdoc is in prison because he was ‘framed’ for smuggling something. Now I don’t believe he was framed, I believe he did smuggle something. And what it was isn’t important right now. But what is important is that Murdoc is always taking these huge risks and making deals with a lot of shady people. He knows that there is a chance to get caught, and well, history tells us he often is caught. In other words, he is playing a game that is hard to win. He never knows what’s going to happen, but he takes a chance, buys the ticket and hopes he can win a good price. Can you see where I’m going with this? “Caught in the hard to win the raffle”. In other words, he was caught playing his games. 
And to put emphasis on being caught playing games, the line is sung at the same time Noodle is shown winning a game of chess in the MV. 
The next line is “cause right now that’s the ball where we be chained”. There aren’t many balls with chains around. But...
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It could be about Murdoc in Prison. 
After this, he once again sings “I want you in the picture, that’s why I’m calling you”. Which in this case would refer to him wanting Murdoc to come back from prison. He also sings that part whilst Ace has his first appearance in the MV, and it makes me think of two things. 1. 2D wants Murdoc to be there rather than Ace. or 2. Ace looks similar to Murdoc and they put him in frame at that point to hint towards the fact 2D is talking about him. 
Of course this is just one of many ways to interpret this verse. He could also be talking about the possession and that his soul and whatever is possessing him are stuck in the prison of 2D’s mind. Maybe he feels trapped in his own mind. If this is true though I personally can’t see a connection to the previous line about the raffle. Also I don’t see why he would end the verse with “I want you in the picture”, unless he wants to be possessed. Which I will discuss later. 
5. The chess game
Now, the chess game isn’t a part of the lyrics and I am aware of that. However I still wanted to mention this as it could be connected to the theory about the 2nd verse being about Murdoc in prison. 
It is a reference to a particular game of chess called “The immortal game” that happened in London 1851. The game was won by Adolf Anderssen who made bold sacrifices giving up both rooks, a bishop and his queen to checkmate Lionel Kieseritzky who had only lost three pawns.
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If we go back to the previous theory that it is about Murdoc getting caught and ending up in prison, that would suggest Murdoc being on the losing side of the chess game. However, you could also interpret it that he was on the winning side if you think about the game as a representation of gorillaz fighting someone else. In that case, Murdoc would be on the winning side, but that would also mean he made great sacrifices for his victory. Possibly causing him to be caught and put in prison.
Another theory could be that the bold sacrifices made in the game represents the bold sacrifice of replacing Murdoc whilst he is in prison. 
6. Ball of betrayal
Another line in the lyrics that really stood out to me is “that’s the ball where we’re betrayed”. I had no idea what to think of this and once again turned to google to see if it could be a reference to something. Apart from a lot of posts about a board game I got a result mentioning Romeo and Juliet. Now I have never read Romeo and Juliet, I read some things about it for the sake of this post but there is no way I can know if those things are true or not. Anyways.
The ball of betrayal. So in Romeo and Juliet, Romeo is basically depressed because he can’t be with the girl he likes. Maybe you could even say he is isolating himself for the sake of grieving. Anyways, his friend convinces him to go to this ball. And as I understand they, or at least Romeo wasn’t invited. But he went anyway with a mask covering his face. A mask symbolizes deception which in turn could be considered as betrayal. The person who hosted the party later went to seek revenge because of this. 
Now, I know that I could be grasping at straws with this one, but this post is really about exploring all possibilities that I personally can see. 
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You could also argue that this ball of betrayal is a metaphor for the party going on in the MV for Strobelite. A party at a club might be a modern version of a ball so it fits that narrative. And the betrayal? The set for the stobelite MV was where Murdoc met the demon he claims to have framed him. So then this would once again tie in to the theory of the song being at least partially about Murdoc. 
An alternative theory could be that 2D was possessed after the shoot for the video or that he was marked as a target for possession at this point. Maybe there actually was a demon there that Murdoc was talking to. Because even if I don’t believe he was framed by the demon, I do believe that he could have been doing business with one. As he has before. 
7. Find me with good aim
The second part of the first verse. “If you’re coming back to find me you better have good aim”. 
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This makes me think that 2D is speaking directly to us. Since he is being possessed and his personality changed he is saying that if we want to find him we have to look hard. This could also strengthen the theory that he is talking to the entire world when he says “I need you in the picture”. Maybe he is saying that he needs us to find him... and ... shoot him. Not literally, but to shoot and get rid of what is possessing him. If you don’t look at the lyrics as if it is a song but rather read it as a text, and change the spacing of the ‘shoot it true’ part.
“If you’re coming back to find me you better have good aim. Shoot. It true, I need you in the picture, that’s why I’m calling you. I’m alone between the left hand. Reset myself and get back on track. See the state I’m in now?” 
You could interpret it as 2D literally begging for help to get rid off what is possessing him. 
8. Picking up what is broken
“If I pick it up when I know that it’s broken, do I put it back? Or do I head out onto lonesome track and let you go?”
This indicates that keeping whatever is being picked up means to head out onto the lonesome track and letting someone go. So the questions are, what is he picking up? And why is it broken? 
The first thing that comes to mind is that he is talking about his possession. I make this connection mostly because of the words ‘lonesome track’. In the chorus he is talking about getting back on track, and if that means to let go of whatever is possessing him, then that would indeed make it a lonely track. That however indicates he would feel lonely not being possessed. And that brings up the question if he wants to be possessed or not. So far I’ve been basing my theories on the fact that he doesn’t want to be possessed, but what if that is not true? I also don’t know what the thing could be that he picks up in this scenario seeing as keeping the broken thing would get rid of the demon. Maybe it refers to the broken pieces of his mind? 
The second idea is that he means the exact opposite. That the lonesome track refers to being possessed and keep his feelings of isolation. In that case the thing he picks up would be the demon, and it is broken because well, it is a demon. Keeping this broken item would mean that he submits to the possession and lets go of his original self. 
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A third idea is that the broken thing he picks up is the actual band. That he considers the band being broken now that Murdoc is gone and that he is contemplating on weather it would be a better idea to keep things like this and replace Murdoc with Ace permanently. However he probably wouldn’t call that lonesome since Russel and Noodle would still be there. But again, trying to come up with every possibility I see. 
9. Does 2D WANT to be possessed?
We all know that 2D is happier and bolder the way he is now. In the interview he also acts a bit like he is superior after finally snapping out of his trance like state. My initial thought about this personality change was that he was simply happy about Murdoc being locked up. Because that would mean he wasn’t around to be an abusive asshole. Maybe that would make 2D feel more happy and confident and like he could express himself more than whenever Murdoc has been around. 
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Another reason could be that he is actually happy to be possessed. He is more confident and happy and can roller skate! All the things you need in life. Maybe there are even more ways that he can benefit from being possessed that we haven’t seen yet. If this is the case, 2D and the presumed demon possessing him could coexist within the body. However, if 2D is happy about the possession and wants to keep the demon, then the song can’t really be about him wanting to get rid of it. If that is the case, he would be talking to the demon rather than to us or murdoc, asking the demon to get rid of his old and miserable self. 
But if he is talking to the demon about getting rid of his original self, then what does he mean by ‘reset myself and get back on track”?. He could be referring to the way he was before Murdoc ever drove through that shop window. Maybe 2D has had enough of being the sad and weak person he became because of Murdoc and he is asking this demon to help him feel like he used to before all of Gorillaz happened. This would also explain why 2D looks angry after Russel trips him and his eyes go back to black. 
A third reason for 2D’s happy and smiling personality could be, that the demon has completely taken over. There is nothing of 2D to be seen from the outside, everything he says and does comes from the demon. So if that is true, then the song can’t be 2D talking to the demon. It could however be the demon saying and doing all of this as a way to try to fool the others and especially Russel who has been possessed before, that 2D is fine with it. As if the demon is playing the role of 2D accepting his possession. OR. the more tragic theory. That the song is 2D’s plea for help hidden inside the mind of his smiling and possessed body. Aka, 2D isn’t actually singing out loud but he is singing in his mind and nobody can hear him. 
If that is true, then luckily Russel isn’t falling for it and he trips 2D to get him back if only just for a moment. Then the only big question left is, why would 2D be mad at Russel? I think there needs to be a stronger reason that ‘he is mad because he tripped him’, because 2D was literally trapped inside his mind and not in control of his body until this happened, and being freed would definitely make him happy, even if it meant falling on his face. So this supports the theory that 2D might actually want to be possessed. 
The only other thing I can think of, is if 2D is only acting angry in a desperate try to hide that he was being possessed. Maybe he is embarrassed? Maybe he wants to hide it from Russel because Russel used to be possessed? Though, it really doesn’t look like he is acting. It honestly looks like the demon would still be in control over that angry facial expression, but the fact that he turns around and can’t skate anymore shows that the real 2D is definitely back in control. As for now I’m personally going to think about it as if the demon manages to pull that final expression and turn around before 2D actually comes back into control. Cause I would like to believe 2D doesn’t want to be possessed. 
10. Summary
At the end of this, my personal take on it, is that the song talks about how the shady business at strobelite caused 2D to be targeted for possession. Possibly because of the large sacrifices Murdocs demonic business partner had to make. Or as a revenge plot from whatever demons and devils he ripped off in the past. And how Murdoc was caught and how the band is different without him. 2D wants everything to go back to normal since he is feeling isolated and lonely, that he wants to be freed from the possession even though he might have some benefits from it because with his personality change and Murdoc being gone, the band is ‘broken’. 
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suckerfopain · 5 years
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Chlorine analysis
I recently watched the Chlorine MV and at first sight it was just “cute” to me( i mean, cmon… have you seen Ned <{ • . • }>!?). But let's be real, this is #TwentyOnePilots so there is probably a deep meaning in this video. So i decided to read some explanation/analysis blogs and watching loads of videos and none of them fully made sense to me (to me personally, we all have different opinions).
So, let start with Tyler “sippin’ on straight chlorine”. In my opinion it was as a sign of clearing himself, his mind, and his music from all the bad stuff that we’ve seen and heard on Blurryface. So he is clearing himself from all the negativity that he felt while Blurry was with him and becoming a new person and creating more new music.
Second thing is “ what chlorine, the pool and the water in that pool actually is?”. Most of the people said that chlorine is the beat, but in my opinion it’s the music itself. And the pool is all the info/letters/pics we’ve been receiving during the hiatus. So in the beginning we see that Josh and Tyler purring a bit of water in the empty pool (i  think that the empty pool is like social media on first months of the hiatus, when we had no info about anything) so it’s that time when they started posting about Clancy and Trench, than they had pool field with water, so it was the end of the hiatus when they already posted snick pics about “Jumpsuit”, “pet cheetah” and when the eye fully opened. Next Tyler and Josh were pouring chlorine in the pool in small amount. At that point it’s the time when they were releasing fist songs (Jumpsuit, levitate, my blood, nico and the niners). Also in this video Josh is also purring the “chlorine”in to the pool, and in some songs we see Josh as a songwriter next to Ty, and that is another support to my chlorine=music version. Than they were pushing the whole canister to the pool and breaking the pipe and purring the whole canister in to the pool. So that is when they put the whole album out.
About the  slow part. He’s singing there “I'm so sorry, I forgot you Let me catch you up to speed I'm so sorry, I forgot you Let me catch you up to speed”. I think he is talking about the hiatus and now he is catching us up with everything that happened and in the interviews tells us about the creation path of this album.
And now to the drained part of the MV. It’s probably the saddest part. So in the last scene of the MV Ty and Ned are sitting in the drained pool. In the last song of the album (“ Leave the city”) the last words are “They know that it's almost over” and “They know What I mean”. At some interview (i just saw a clip on the gram from some radio interview) Tyler said ( i’m really sorry that i hv to say this) that they will probably release few more albums and they will be done. So the drained pool represents the end of the trench era or the end of TOP it self.
And the thing thing is Ned <{ • . • }>.
So in my opinion this little fren’ is us, clique. In the beginning when guys purring a bit of water into the pool (posting some things on dema web) Ned doesn’t really like it or  pretty sceptical about that situation, same as when they started the dema website not all of people were happy about the whole drama about it and a lot of people were just like “what the hell is that…?”.
So when they filled the pool up and poured some chlorine in (hiatus finished, 4 songs released) Ned seemed a bit more interested, but it was steel not enough and he shook his head in disappointment. When those three songs were released clique was confused and disappointed that it sounded different and very pop, so again, we weren’t fully satisfied. When Tyler and Josh rolled that canister over to the pool and field the pool with chlorine then Ned jumped into the pool and was happy and started growing his horns out (developing and learning). When trench was fully released clique was SO HAPPY and een with time we love this album more and more.
In the end of the video Tyler gives Ned a sip of chlorine and Ned looks a bit shocked. Well if that scene represents the end of era (or even TOP) and chlorine is Tyler's’ and Josh's’ music i think that Ty is telling us that we will learn alot more about them and their music.
Last thing is about Ned’s appearance. In the beginning of the video  Ned is dirty and his fur wasn’t fluffy, and in the end of the video he is all clean and fluffy))). So if Ned=clique, during the hiatus we all were influenced by Blurryface era and that era wasn’t the happiest one so after listening through the whole album where Tyler got rid of Blurry and Clancy escaped Dema clique is now “clear” from all that “horror” that we were leaving through Blurryface era and Clancy’s escape from that terrible place.
Conclusion
So this video is about the whole path of creating and putting album out and relationship between creator and TOP clique.
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