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rottonbear · 8 months
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I am so dumb to find out that he is loved by every Wayne till several minutes ago😂...
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EVERY Wayne loves Richard John Grayson...
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And he love them back
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there is always a happy end
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If they love him properly...
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Damian: *close by* I love you
Bruce: *shocked but extremely happy* I love you too
Damian: *walking past with Alferd the cat* I don't want to hear your conversations with Kyle.
Bruce: ... sorry son.
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fancyfade · 23 days
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I saw that panel of that “Batman” tricking Damian …
Okay do Batman writers reread Morrison Batman stuff. Because unless I’m wrong, Bruce was a bit of an ass when Damian came into his life. In fact I remember a panel of Batman saying he was just going to more or less use Damian in his crusade not the fact that his son lost his childhood
Or in Batman inc where Bruce was going to send Damian to Talia despite his pleads
I’m sorry, yes Bruce can love his kids…but Damian alarms should ring like it a level 5 hurricane and try to immobilize the bat imposter.
I can consume the same material as these PROFESSIONAL comic writers right?
i mean I assume sadly that it was just retconned, not "damian doesn't remember what happened when bruce just got there". but yeah he has been shown to spot bruce imposters before so IDK whats even going on in recent comics.
Re the rest of the stuff in the ask:
Some of this stuff I think that we did see Bruce being sympathetic to Damian losing his childhood... but also that he was going to put his training in the fight against crime which NGL i wouldn't say is even a bad thing from DC's worldbuilding perspective.
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OK ignore the terrible talia writing its hard I know. But like he clearly does know that Damian needs to be taken care of as a child here, and that he was not before, he just also is going to try to let him fight crime (which he will regret soon :P)
this isn't to say that bruce wasn't an ass at times, just that he did demonstrate some basic concern. It does get really messed up in batman incorporated (the comic where he wants to send damian back to an OOCly abusive Talia) but like... that whole comic sucks so I jettison it.
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orangelasagnaart · 9 months
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kstarlitchaotics · 3 months
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DC fans & Batfam fics hc anazlying: Bruce never admits he has traumas
Proof: ☝️
It takes a character to admit that he has traumas that take ignorance for the fans not to acknowledge that he has
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red-jenny · 11 months
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Batman and Son, Grant Morrison and Andy Kubert, 2006
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mediacircuspod · 1 year
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Bird Enamel Pins: The Robin Edition!
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Let's talk Enamel Pins.
I recently designed these 4 pins based on the batfamily. I focused on the Robins for this go around as their stories are very close to my heart. I often see them as tragic figures so I wanted to draw them in a form that resembles idols and tragic portraits. Hopefully, I did that successfully. All that's left to do before getting them made, is getting them funded. The link will be at the bottom of the post, so let's get into the Kickstarter.
The goal is to get all 4 Pins funded. I think we can do that. Here are the designs a little closer up.
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You can choose any one or all of the designs if you become a backer, depending on your pledge.
Some facts about the pins.
2in
Hard Enamel
Black Nickel
2 Rubber Backclasps
Now that the goal is out there, let's talk about stretch goals.
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The first stretch goal is a FREE filler pin for anyone who backed at a pin tier! I love this little guy and think he'd look great in your collection, especially as a little gift.
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The second stretch goal is the option to receive your pins as Gold Plated instead of Black Nickel. I'd love to see these guys in gold, so I hope we reach this one.
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Do you want more designs? I have the Batgirls sketched out, but they'll be options for orders if we reach this stretch goal. Upon reaching this goal, those designs will be finished and revealed.
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Let's talk about stretch goal number 4! FREE KEYCHAINS for anyone who backed at a pin tier and above! You get to choose whoever you want out of the original four designs!
If we reach that final stretch goal that means that the lowest pin tier at $10 plus shipping ($5-10 based on US-International) would get you a 2-in Batfamily pin, a Mask Filler Pin, and an Acrylic Keychain. That's crazy! Let's get these out there!
These Pins are truly my passion project and my first Kickstarter. I can't express enough how much it would mean to me to get it funded. I love the batfandom so much and hope y'all are doing amazing.
As promised, here's that link
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shokuto · 9 months
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frogprinceofspades · 1 year
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Damian Wayne’s turn for a PIN spotlight. Back my Kickstarter to get these enamel pins.
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Damian’s Design actually took me the longest. And I changed his quote 10 minutes before the Kickstarter launched. Before “Great Expectations”, you could’ve been seeing “light in the dark”.
I like both versions, but I feel the current one fits much better and am happy with where his final design ended up. Also you all have until the 21st of February to pledge to the Kickstarter for the chance to WIN A GIVEAWAY. Everything in that the Kickstarter produces could be yours if you pledge at ANY PIN TIER. Here’s that link :)
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bixieblitz-0 · 1 year
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Swiggity swoggy I’m coming for that doggy
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rottonbear · 8 months
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Analysis of knight terrors: nightwing
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i didnt read the whole series, and prefer each character is independent than the others, which means what, for example, superman said in his series does not related to batman's.
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The main topic of knight terrors is the deepest terror of the character, such as batgirl is too reliant on computer, scarecrow is everything.
As a resident scare expert, scarecrow said, "I think it's your fears we should be scared of, nightwing."
so, what's nightwing's biggest fear?
Base on the scarecrow and oracle, insomnia turns people to their special variant and what they fear most.
Nightwing didnt finish his transforment in the story, but base on his hands and arms, it seems to be a creature like a bird.
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a blue bird, horror version of course.
in western culture, blue bird means hope. and in other cultures, beside hope, bird also mean power, and freedom. if we take the first statement, nightwing means hope, power and freedom. if we take the second, he afraid to it.
why does nightwing fear to hope?
there is a communicate between nightwing with robin (damian) in nightwing vol. 4 #20
"when your dad came back, there was a moment I thought it would be better for you if you stayed with me."
"but then i thought i was too young. too untethered. i thought i might not be able to handle the responsibility."
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he afraids of the responsibility which comes from when he was called to be the hope.
a blue bird borns to be hope, no need and cant forced to.
though dick did a really good job when bruce out, during bruce back, he is the son again. he is still the little bird enjoys soaring free most.
cause of his really great jobs with titans, in bludheaven, sometimes in gotham, and siblingship with other batfamily, people easy to forget he is also a son.
he is the eldest, he becomes a superhero just like bruce, but he is still a son.
when he is free, he is the hope of the family, when he takes responsibility, he is the batman.
he is the hope, but you cant tell him TO BE the hope. that's still too heavy to him.
this is never a shame to a kid just want to be a kid when their parents is there. it just proves how much love that the kid was given from his man, and also an evidence shows he is really see bruce as his father, a figure that can rely on, and learn from.
then, why scarecrow said they should be scared of nightwing's fear?
in the very beginning of the story, nightiwng lose his memory, and insomnia tried to bring it back to make him weak. however even nightwing remembers what happen, his first reaction was finding a way out to make sure what actually happen but to accept. he even can care what happen to batgirl. just like the TRUTH didnt bother him at all.
insomnia's power didnt work on him like the others.
cause of failure, insomnia tried harder, which make the situation also. and insomnia's failure also mean nightwing's fear is an unknown.
nothing horrible than an unknown (actually, he does fear, he just knows how to handle them so well)
During nightwing's transforment, Insomnia tried five things to stimulate him.
one, killing batman, cause of too shock, nightwing lost the memory
two, john and mary.
I dont think batgirl is one of them, they more like trap in the same dream or space, such as stephanie and cassandra.
three, tony zucco.
fourth, the circus.
fifth, the fire (happened before new52, nightwing #88)
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this is how nightwing reply.
To his parents,
"I've had nightmares like this before."
"Never so vivid...so real."
They are too real, he cant control himself tried to feel them again, and in the next second, they turned dust.
after that, he said "you're in my mind."
he sad but didnt fooled
he knows clearly his parents were gone, and never came back. just like he said in many series,
"I wouldn't trade being your partner for anything." batman superman world's world's finest #6
"I miss my parents with my whole heart, Batman, I do. But I wouldn't trade this for the world." batman gotham knights
"you know exactly who I'm the son of." pre new52 nightwing #100
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About three to five.
Insomnia said "Naturally. His (Zucco) face still haunts you, after all.", "Maybe we should turn up the heat in here. What do you say?"
Nightwing "You think I haven't lived this a thousand times?", "This is no longer my nightmare..."
here show clearly how nightwing deals with his fear.
face it, until it not a bother anymore.
it is also the reason why he is so special in the batfamily. when there is something bothers him, he talks (self talking is also a kind of talking) and asks for help (Bruce also mentions this in nightwing #100) but keep it aside, or let it drive him.
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He didnt step in the darkness and be a part of it, he fight hard until the dawn comes.
about the batman's part, analyze with the speech of him and scarecrow,
"I wont forget what happened here, crane."
"I know you wont. becauce a part of you liked it."
"that time you got to kill daddy."
"Darkness is a part of us."
"the thin margin between dread and desire..."
"tonight you tasted it. and it let you wanting more."
after dick real awaked, he didnt deny anything.
"bad dreams are only dreams."
"but some of them stay with us."
"...I'll be thinking about this one for a long time."
so, why does nightwing want to kill batman?
I think it is the visualize of his anger about bruce. in his subconscious, he afraids one day he will lose control.
Father and son issue is a canon topic in whatever creation.
the first one is the hardest.
and adoptive ever makes this more complicated.
Dick is bruce's first son, first partner, tons of things that even the world's greatest detective can find the correct answers, further may be there is no correct answer actullty.
Bruce is dick's second father, there is also alfred, before being part of wayne family, dick already knew whats a good father should be, and there must be sometimes he compared john with bruce, even he never told bruce or alfred face to face.
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in nightwing #89, bruce admitted to clark, "i ve made so many mistakes with dick and look how he turned out."
In Nightwing #100, nightwing showed his understanding to bruce.
"You were young, you were driven, and you were grieving. and you put all that aside to take in a kid who lost everything in an instant."
However, understanding doesnt mean forgiving. Dick didnt show his anger because he cares and knows bruce hv been do his best in the past.
just like he said to jon in world's finest sons part two, "I know how hard it is." and in his 2022 annual
alfred "but surely not without a break."
dick "it's for my own good, alfred."
jon "where'd you learn to be such a good teacher?"
nightwing "I learned it from batman."
one of the most touching thing between bruce and dick is the countless understanding and forgiving.
A heartwarming and realist relationship is not filled with love, but hate and love exist at the same time, and love is always the choice with no doubt.
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A son defeats his father meaning a real and full grow up.
so do nightwing and batman.
they argued, they fought, they separated, but never apart.
just like what the end of the story showed us, after the dummy broke down. countless bats fly through the sky. bruce always be the guy who saves dick in the very darkness. even there is full of heartbroke and tear, no matter how hard it is, the bat always guides his little blue bird home, the bat cant light the road, but his little bird do. when they are being gather, their world is bright by hope, and none of them will lost anymore.
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To the Dynamic Duo
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from nightwing fear stage
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i pretty love this story. i think it takes batman and nightwing relationship to a different level, may be just my overthinking :D
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I know the DCAU was over by then and this comic came out 2022 but Shadow Wars would of been a perfect ending to DCAU Damian's story
Making progress with Damian's relationship with his mother.
Talia listening to Damian
Damian pointing out to Talia, Bruce was also her family.
Bruce and Talia respecting Damian and trusting him
I think it came as a show how much Damian's grown and being a key part to the DCAU
So Much of that arc was important to all 3 them, own growth and their relationship together
Granted many flaws as Ra's was dead since the first movie but still.
I'm upset that DCAU closed with yeah Talia suddenly hates her son. Why? Cos we said so.
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fancyfade · 10 months
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Batman vs Robin (animated movie) could never happen w/ comics Damian, because a big plot point is Bruce keeping Damian in the house via his security system for some reason, and comics Damian just blazes thru Bruce's security system. First plotline (Batman and Son) he bypasses the keypad lock and the voice lock to get in, next plotline (Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul) he just sneaks in from the outside, and later on (Batman Incorporated) he bypasses Bruce's security protocols to get out.
If Bruce tried that shit on comics Damian he'd have to go back to the drawing board immediately :P
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Why is Bruce so chill about Talia just dumping his son on him with no warning? She’s like oh babe btw here’s your kid that I definitely didn’t force you to have against your will and then next thing you know he’s telling Damian that he’s going to move into the Batcave
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projectbatman193 · 4 months
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What you guys think of this style for "Merry Little Batman"? I haven't watched it yet! But I'm planning to.
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red-jenny · 11 months
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Batman and Son, Grant Morrison and Andy Kubert, 2006
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