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gothamcitycentral · 2 years
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I realized I accidentally make Into the Knight Scarecrow / Firefly / Bane into this meme and I’m not even exaggerating
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spacedace · 10 months
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Dp x dc idea:
Danny & Co joining the Justice League and everything...but it's that wonderful DC AU where Bruce died in Ethiopia instead of Jason and Tim decided to be Dad (TM) of Jason's Robin and runs around as kid Batman for awhile (eventually becoming full legit Batman).
Danny & Co joining up after all of that, they have only known Tim as Batman (and for fun let's make this Brian Dead where Danny & Tim are dating, or are dancing around each other, maybe Super Brain Dead because I love Kon being involved).
Anyway, Tim is Danny & the Pham's Batman...and then they ended up accidently in the normal DC universe and meet Bruce Wayne Batman and immediately are like "Press X For Doubt" about the whole thing
Danny, squinting suspiciously: who the fuck are you?
Bruce: I'm Batman
Danny: No the fuck you aren't
Elle: Yeah no way, I know Batman, Batman's a sleep deprived twink
Tim (as Red Robin) walks in
Danny: holy shit they fucking shrunk Red Robin
Tim: What??
Elle: Okay what the fuck, first Batman isn't a twink and now Red Robin is???
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cephalog0d · 5 months
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Okay, but like. There's the whole joke about Bruce recruiting children to be his sidekicks, but honestly there's only really one that fits that.
And it's Jason. And the whole story there is, frankly, unhinged. Aaaaand then he died.
(I'm specifically talking about "first post-crisis origin stories" here because Jason and Dick, in particular, have both had multiple major retcons and revisions over the years, and some of them dramatically change how things happened.)
Like okay. Going backwards, you've got Duke who joined/led a whole Robin-based gang at a time when Bruce wasn't even Batman. You've got Damian and Cass, who were both literally born into the world of masks and capes and heroes and villains, so they weren't ever really not going to be part of it. Steph might have taken inspiration from previous heroes but she made her own identity and repeatedly refused to stop involving herself in the vigilante lifestyle. Tim, obviously, basically strong-armed Batman into letting him be Robin, despite Batman's protests.
Dick's a little more complicated just because there's so many versions, because that's what 80 years of comics and multiple universe reboots will do, and there's kind of a general trend that earlier pre-crisis versions were more of Batman being like "hello, child, would you like to be my sidekick" and later versions have leaned harder and harder into the idea that Dick was absolutely going to do this anyway, regardless of what Batman had to say about it. But even in the first post-crisis version, the flashback in Batman Year 3, Dick says he wants to find a way to keep people like that from hurting others again. When Alfred questions Bruce's offer to train him, Bruce says that Dick should learn to do things the right way if he's going to do it. It's not hard to extrapolate that, much like later versions of the origin story, Dick was going to get himself into this one way or another. (Batman (1940) #437)
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And then there's Jason. Whose backstory has also had a lot of (sometimes major) revisions over the years (remember when his adoption was, like, some kind of Joker-originated long con? Fucken Nu52, man). But the original post-crisis version is pretty straightforward. Steals Batman's tires, gets caught and sent to Ma Gunn's Secret Criminal School, intervenes when Batman goes to investigate, immediately gets offered the chance to be Robin based entirely on that.
Which is itself kind of unhinged. That Bruce saw this kid who was living on his own stealing tires and went "Hey you would make a good Robin" as his very first instinct.
But if you've never read Jason's post-crisis origin, or it's been a while, it's honestly even more unhinged than that because that arc starts with Dick getting "fired" as Robin specifically for the reason that he got shot by Joker and Bruce freaked out about how the Robin identity has too many enemies and therefore Dick, a legal adult with approximately a decade of training and experience, should not use the identity anymore.
(And it's specifically about the Robin identity, in this version, because when Dick says he's not going to stop the crime fighting thing Bruce's response is basically "I know and I didn't expect you to". Honestly I could also say a lot about this version of the Robin/Nightwing transition vs. later ones and how this one definitely feels like the Heavy Hand of DC Editorial in the fact that they had no contact for so long afterwards, because the interaction really doesn't feel like it warrants that in this case compared to some later versions, but that's a whole other too-long ramble.) (Batman (1940) #408)
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And then a few weeks later Bruce turns around and picks up a random kid, a literal child, and goes "Hey you would make a good Robin!"
And I think a lot about how fucking wild that is. And it's not like the people writing just didn't notice. Dick's big argument with Bruce when he finally comes back to Gotham and meets Jason isn't about the fact that Bruce took in another kid, or even necessarily about Dick feeling proprietary over the Robin identity, the thing he's angry about is that Bruce said it was too dangerous for him, an adult, someone who has trained with Batman for a decade and was already highly physically trained before that for his whole life, to be Robin, and now Bruce has turned around and painted that target onto some random new kid. He pushes, repeatedly, trying to get Bruce to justify himself and this absolutely irresponsible decision, and Bruce gives a lot of answers about how Jason was on a bad path and needed this outlet and eventually just admits that he missed having a partner. (Batman (1940) #416)
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And like. Dick's right, is the thing. He is 1000% in the right in this argument. If he can't be Robin anymore because of the danger, how in the hell is it anything like a good idea to hand it over to someone way younger, way less trained, way less experienced, and expect that that wouldn't end in tragedy?
And then it did.
And yeah, Bruce, it is kinda a lot of your fault.
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oifaaa · 9 months
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I know it’s a long shot and no pressure, but I would absolutely love if you added more to the Battle for the Cowl Batfam AU. It’s so cute and I love the family bonding aspects of it in particular. Like when they all go out together as Batman and there are just multiple Batmen. And Gordon is just so done with them… Yeah, so, soft request for more at some point in the future? Again, no pressure.
Sorry friend I unfortunately don't see myself adding more to the bftc au anytime soon mostly bc I regret a lot of the decisions I made when first making that au and now every time I look at it all I can think is God I wish I'd done this differently so I think unless I'm completely redoing the au (which I also dont see myself doing bc that may get confusing fast) I'm not gonna add to it any time soon
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ghastbutlikegay · 9 months
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Omg you talked about 2012 TMNT and I suddenly remembered how much of that show I watched when I was younger,,, oh the nostalgia. I don't remember all too much from it now but I remember loving it. I've never watched rottmnt but like. I probably should if it's as good as everyone has been saying it is
honestly i only watched a little bit of 2012 as a kid, i was never super into that style/genre of cartoon so i only watched it if it happened to come on hjsdghj
rottmnt is SO good. it's very very different to 2012 in a lot of ways, but the art and the writing and the voice acting are all sososo good. the characterization for all the turtles is super different as well so if youre used to a snarky Raph and a. well. a Rob Paulsen Donnie. you might not vibe with Rise at first
but thats one of the things i really love about the entire franchise, each version keeps the core concept (four mutant turtles raised by a rat are trained to be ninjas) and most of the characters the same while also all being really unique and having different takes on all the characters. i enjoy this aspect of the franchise to the point that im making my own fan reboots and everything hjksdhg
the main reason i initially watched Rise was because i heard Donnie was really good autistic rep and i have to agree, ive never connected with a character this much before hgjsdhg hes also a really good example of low empathy imo, and i very much feel like my own experience with low empathy is being represented here
the art is something i see people complain about a lot when theyre coming from a background of watching 2012 or 2003, and i definitely felt like the art was kinda weird at first, but it's also so fun and striking and as you get used to it and start picking up on little details it gets better and better
a lot of classic TMNT villains dont make appearances in Rise, and the ones who do are WAY different to the older versions, but they also have a whole ton of new villains who are super cool and compelling as well (Draxum and Big Mama my beloved <3)
the movie can technically be watched as a standalone but i highly recommend saving it til youve watched both seasons because HOLY FUCKING SHIT. THE EMOTIONS. the scene that always makes me cry probably wouldnt hit me the way it does if i didnt have all the background of the seasons
notes on where to watch though: netflix has season 1 and the movie, but i dont actually know how to legally watch season 2, and the site i used for it unfortunately shut down so i can provide links :(
oh god this got really long can you tell tmnt has entered special interest territory for me
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Can you reboot the of clone baby au I can’t find it
Which...which one?
The one where Danny, a translator, wakes up years into the future/different dimension in a tube in a lab and discovered hed been cloned via scientists and has three babys with a guy named Red Robin and after he escapes, Batman finds him and tries to take the babies so Danny makes his kids kinda daddy blog famous and outs Red Robin as the other father so he can't take custody without outing his secret identity?
The one where Danny wakes up in the dcu in a lab, finds a bunch of kids and assumed he had been cloned and that they were all his and took them, only for the TT core four to bust in just missing them, and finding out the clones that were made of them were gone?
Or maybe one of the Project R aus where Danny is a clone made by combining all the previous Robins DNA?
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fantastic-nonsense · 3 months
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im soso curious, i need to know... why is tim a child of apollo? bless u for not going with fanon<3
[referencing how I decided who the Batfam's godly parents were in my PJO AU WIP]
People like to sort him into Athena because DC has spent the last few years emphasizing how smart he is and how he's better at the more “cerebral” and detective aspects of the job. But Tim’s most prominent pre-reboot traits are not actually his detective or tech skills: they’re his reckless, impulsive bravery, his ability to analyze and think very quickly on his feet in dangerous situations, and his "power of friendship" idealism.
He's a people person; it's one of his greatest strengths. Tim is like...physically incapable of going somewhere and not making at least one friend while he's there. Hell, when he ran off to travel the world on his "fuck you, I'll find Bruce on my own" trip he still managed to pick up his own little crew of assassin friends along the way. Making connections and talking to people and relying on others for help is how he successfully navigates being a hero, as he himself notes on multiple occasions:
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"Did you think I was going to run all around the city, desperately trying to save everyone all by myself? I'm not Batman. I have friends." -Red Robin #12
Tim loves his family and friends, and losing so many people he's close to within such a small timespan sends him off the deep end in multiple ways (trying to clone Kon, fighting Dick to get the Lazarus water, isolating himself from everyone, fighting with Dick and running off to find proof that Bruce was alive on his own, etc).
At his core, Tim is an idealist who becomes a hero for no other reason than a) a broken man needs help and a broken family needs mending and b) if Dick won't go back to being Robin he might as well do it, because someone has to be Robin. He sees what will happen if Bruce stays on the path he's on and says "no. I'm not going to let that happen." He's a hero because someone has to help, and he's able and available to do so. He doesn't work on cold hard logic and facts. He works off of gut instinct and then uses his big brain to go find facts and logical conclusions that support those instincts.
Tim was never going to be an Athena child.
So I started thinking. At first, I wanted him to be a Hermes child; it seemed right to frame his parentage around being the child of the messenger of the gods given how he became Robin. But that's not really him, either. Apollo, within the scope of both classical mythology and the PJO-verse's depiction of him and his children, fits him better.
While modern culture tends to zero in a lot on Apollo's status as the god of music, poetry, and the arts (for good reason), Apollo in classical Greek mythology was first and foremost known as the god who (for lack of a better term) helps his people. He's the god of the sun, of light, of medicine and healing, of prophecy, of truth.
Tim comes into Bruce's life at a time when Bruce is at his absolute lowest point. Jason is dead. He's estranged from Dick. He's failing in his mission to save Gotham. He's highkey passively suicidal. And Tim takes it upon himself to fix that. And he does it by being a solid, bright, stable presence in Bruce's life and an extremely blunt, truthful messenger of the future he sees: Batman needs a Robin, and if Bruce doesn't have one he's going to die.
And I didn't abandon his intelligence in the calculations: Apollo is also the god of rational thinking, order, and knowledge, contrasting and working in harmony with Dionysus (the god of irrationality, chaos, and passion). He was also known to be the god whose job it was to interpret the will of Zeus to humankind, which I thought was appropriate for a boy who spends quite a lot of his time being the living communication translator between Bruce and everyone around him.
So. Apollo child.
............also I thought it was funny to make the god of youth the father of the boy DC refuses to allow to age.
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lorencethecat · 2 years
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I hate it when superheroes are basically just glorified cops. I want them to be glorified social workers. I need more superheroes that just care, not just about their city, or their loved ones, or the civilians, but about their villains too. I'm tired of every superhero being rebooted to be darker and edgier because that always leads to them disregarding their surroundings, ignoring the people their actions indirectly put in danger, and massive property damage for literally no reason other than it looks cool. I need the comics industry (and movie industry) to go back to heroes that are just objectively nice. I've been rewatching a lot of cartoons lately and they really just don't make superheroes like that anymore, but they should, they're so good because they understand what superheroes are.
One of my favorite parts of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes is Ant-Man and that's because he's nice. His default strategy when dealing with a villain is to turn big and pick them up so they can try to talk things out before it escalates into a full blown fight. It almost never works, because the show has to show, but that doesn't stop Ant-Man from doing it every single time. The Big House at the beginning of that show is so neat to me solely because it actually tries to focus on rehabilitation, on treating the prisoners like people, Ultron was put there by Ant-Man to help reform the villains just as much as Ultron is there to guard the prison. The whole thing is designed to help, Ant-Man wants to help, even if they're villains, that's a true hero.
More great examples are Justice League and Justice League Unlimited. Those shows understood Batman, understood that he's passionate about others, that he cares, that he's actually a great person even if he thinks he's not. Not to mention all of the times villains were more than content with being in jail because they were actually treated like humans. (Ultra-Humanite and Parasite in the connected Superman show to name a few examples)
Most of my favorite episodes from the Justice League shows are the ones staring Flash because that's what I want to see from a hero. There's an episode in Unlimited, Flash and Substance, where four of Flash's rogues are trying to kill him but at most Flash is only mildly annoyed by them. And that's because Flash knows exactly where his rogues hang out, who they are, he doesn't really see them as a problem. In fact he goes and talks to one of them (who was totally on board with killing him) and is just unbelievably nice to him. He doesn't try to punch the answers out of the guy, like Orion or Batman wanted to, he treats Trickster like he's a person, reminds him to take his medication, promises to visit him in the hospital if he turns himself in. And it works, they get the information they need and Trickster promises to turn himself in. Name me the last time that happened to a superhero on the big screen.
I feel like most people see The Dark Knight (either the TDKR comic or the movie trilogy) and think that is what makes a superhero. They look at the MCU's self aware "aren't superheroes so silly, look how ridiculous it is that these people exist" type of humor and think that is what makes a superhero. But that's not the point of a superhero. Superheroes were made to offer hope, to be a bright light in dark times. The best kinds of superheroes are the ones that geniunely care, the ones that are actually kind. And that's not to say I never enjoy heroes who fall on the darker side of things, it can be fun to see an au where things are darker every once in a while. (That's why I like Injustice despite it going against literally everything I like about superheroes.) But what I am saying that dark and edgy shouldn't be the default of superheroes. When that becomes the only way people perceive superheroes, I can't help but feel like something important was lost. Superheroes shouldn't be reflections of the darkest parts of the world, they should remind us of all the good that's in the world. That no matter how bad things get, there will always be good to counter it, a light in the darkness, hope. I'm tired of superheroes that just punch bad guys and never learn anything. I hate it when the deepest take from a superhero story is nothing but "the world is cruel, get used to it."
I want superheroes to be human again, even if they're the farthest thing from a human, I still want them to value humanity, community, I want them to care, to be kind even when the world is not. Because when the world is cruel and unusual, the most revolutionary thing to do is to be unusually kind and care. That is what makes a superhero, and I really wish we'd get to see that again in more modern interpretations, the world definitely needs more kindness for the sake of being kind.
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helix-studios117 · 22 days
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What is an "Ultimate Universe?"
In my psychotic and incoherent ramblings about an AU that I've kept FAR TOO LONG to myself, I'm sure you all have occasionally seen me use "Ultimate Universe" as a means of describing my AU; hell, it's literally on on the summary paragraph for my AU's series on Ao3.
That's begs the question, a question no-one asked: What's an Ultimate Universe?
To put it simply, for those who don't know: An Ultimate Universe is an alternate-continuity reboot of an older IP that's meant draw in the general audience (who know little of the source-material) to this new work so that they can become new fans of both the work itself AND the franchise at large.
The term was coined by Marvel Comics, who created the "Ultimate Comics" line-up (a series of graphic-novels that can be found on store-shelves anywhere) in the Turn Of The Millennium to draw in new fans with their "Hip, Trendy, Edgy, New Wave and Experimental" alternate-universe take on classic Marvel. It worked. So well, in fact, that just last year... they rebooted the Ultimate Comics, reusing the name but doing everything in a completely different way.
Other examples beyond Marvel include:
The Kelvin-Timeline Star Trek films by JJ Abrams.
The Dark Knight Trilogy and Smallville were this for both Batman and Superman respectively.
The recent Planet Of The Apes films by Matt Reeves.
The Legends EU became a retroactive inverted example after Disney rebooted the main-universe.
And most appropriately, Paramount+'s Halo The Series is basically this for the Halo franchise.
That last example is more or less why I made this post. Basically, I saw what the show was trying to do and decided that I wanted to follow the same concept, but do it my way.
Halo Reloaded, aka 'The Reloaded!AU,' is MY attempt at an 'Ultimate Universe' for Halo.
Hopefully, that clears things up. Thank you for coming to me TED Talk.
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gothamcitycentral · 2 years
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Batman: Into the Knight
My masterpost that answeres the question “What if I made a Batman animated series?”
Batmna: Into the Knight is a reboot of the Batman television series that came before it. It showcases the Dark Knight early into his carrier. He’s an enemy of the police and he’s meeting his rogues gallery for the first time. As the series goes on he’ll not only grow into the Batman we know, but so will his team. It takes visual inspiration from Rise of TMNT, The Spectacular Spider-Man, and The Batman 2004.
Central Characters
Bruce Wayne // Batman
Here’s very much an early twenty year old trying to keep his life from falling apart. He’s not very good at it. He has clearly watched too many horror flicks when he was growing up, judging by his Batman appearance. He’s trying to find a balance between his Bruce Wayne persona and Batman persona. This Bruce isn’t very top heavy, his fighting style being more focused on out-maneuvering his opponents and striking from the shadows than overpowering five people at once. Additionally, his detective skills are at front and center.
Alfred Pennyworth
Alfred Pennyworth served in the war as a medic before moving to America. Where he would meet the Wayne Family and become their butler. After the death of Bruce’s parents at age 9, he was the child’s only family left and raised him as his own, though they were never truest ready to call each other father and son. Now he’s basically Bruce’s backstage manager, stopping him from constantly throwing away his life to be perma Batman.
Barbara Gordon // Batgirl - Oracle
Barbara Gordon is the fifteen-year-old daughter of Police Commissioner Gordon, who properly debuts in the first episode of Season 2. She has a large interest in computer science (to the point that her talent outclasses Bruce’s), in addition to gymnastics. Though, the latter has faded overtime. She had recently developed an admiration for the Batman, as not only is her father now working with him, but she believes in him as symbol of what Gotham needs. In a homage to 2004, this Barbara is friends with teenage Pamela Isely. Both of their friend circle outside of each other is… limited. With each being rather passionate about the environment (one slightly more than the other) and Gotham being, well, Gotham, they act as passionate activists in ways some call ‘harassment’ or ‘vandalism’. After Poison Ivy’s transformation, and her father being out in danger, Barbara announces herself as Batgirl, Batman’s first partner. Despite his  grievance. Additionally, in the last episodes of the series, she would transition into becoming Oracle.
Dick Grayson // Robin
Typical Dick Grayson backstory, except he’s 11 this time. Having Barbara as a first partner is what motivated Bruce to have the confidence to take Dick in. Dick is meant to finalize the arc that Alfred and Barbra started, who is Bruce (not Batman or Bruce Wayne). This Dick would really be “softened up” as a lot are. This is a child who very, very much wants revenge. And also to play video games. He’s processing a lot.
Cassandra Cain // Batgirl II
All of the Batkids are meant to tie into Bruce’s character which makes Cassandra, the biggest parallel to Bruce of any character, the perfect last Batkid to introduce in the series. She would debut in the Season 3 B premiere, being thirteen years old and a recent run away from her father. Since Barbara would be Batgirl during this, Cass’s story would focus on the groundwork of her character, her learning to speak, processing her values, and bonding with everyone. Only in the last few episodes though, as Barbara becomes Oracle, would Cass suit up to become the second Batgirl.
Significant Ally Characters
Lucius Fox
A friend of Thomas and Martha Wayne and tried his best to assist Bruce once he had to take charge of Wayne Industries. This led to him leading the production of most of Bruce’s Bat tech. He makes a very strong effort to keep his family far, far away from Bruce’s antics.
Commissioner Jim Gordon
Jim Gordon was a detective working for the GCPD. The police chief had drilled into him and his coworkers that a vigilante called “The Batman” was out in Gotham City and making them look like fools. The thing was their number one subject, and Gordon intended on delivering. Until he saw Batman properly in action, and began to realize he was doing more for Gotham any they were. Jim would be Bruce’s first supporter, ultimately paying off in the Season 1 finale where Batman is officially adopted as the full fledged protector of Gotham, where Gordon is promoted to the Police Commissioner.
Renee Montoya // The Question
Renee Montoya was a GCPD detective. While she’s partners with Gordon, she does feel that he has a sense of authority on her due to his age and that it was him who trained her. Not that she respects that authority all that much, but still. She’s the only other GCPD to trust Batman to any degree, ironically both her and Gordon came to the conclusion on their own. During Season 2 however, while Gordon was running the police, Renee would be discharged for disobeying orders. She takes it in stride and dons the moniker “The Question”.
Francine Langstrom
Francine and Kirk Langstrom are scientists at Wayne Enterprises. More of those detail are in Man-Bat’s summary. After Kirk’s transformation, Francine would feel broken. She would spiral into a self deprecating slog. Until Batman needed her help with a genetics issue, which would become her new stable, ie the team’s bio science expert. In addition to working on a cure for Kirk.
Rogues // Season 1
The Joker
The villain with no real name. This Joker goes all in on the comedy. He won’t do anything if there’s not a punchline to it. He exercises a high amount of cartoon physics. He’s the type to have a dramatic monologue that’s actually just a parody on a roof top before leaping off, but it turns out he planted whoopee cushions on his feet which bounces him over to the next building. He has a dark purple jacket and a yellow bowtie over a light purple straight jacket. A big part of why he fixates on Batman is because he acts as a “tether” for him. He’s a way for Joker to not lose his identity.
Oswald Cobblepot // The Penguin
Oswald Cobblepot’s family was once a wealthy name of England. However, they lost their family fortune and fled to America. Oswald was ridiculed for his appearance growing up, and so he believes that restoring his family’s fortune will give him the respect he deserves. He does this by creating an organized crime empire in Gotham. He has a habit of collecting rare and illegal birds to keep as pets.
Selina Kyle // Catwoman
Selina Kyle lost her mother as a young child, leaving her with her abusive father. This lead to her eventually becoming a foster kid, until she was sent to a juvenile detention center. Selina views the world (and Gotham especially) as overrun with people who can do harm without punishment. This is something she tries to correct as Catwoman, while also setting herself up quite nicely. She would start off as a theft for hire (one of her targets being Wayne Industries) before quickly becoming a full time “steals whatever they want ''. I imagine she would look like a slightly more toned version of her The Batman 2020’s portrayal. While her costume would take inspiration from her 2004 design, having yellow to compliment her black instead of red.
Harvey Dent // Two-Face
Harvey Dent was the only friend Bruce had in highschool, though there was the lingering feeling they could have been something else. However, did to Bruce’s nature of being himself, they’ve greatly lost touch. They’ve been brought back together as Harvey is trying to run for Gotham City Mayor, with hope of improving the city. Bruce wants him and Wayne Industries to act as strong supporters. However, the rerunning Mayor, seeing that Harvey is gaining popularity, enlists Penguin and his resources to ‘take him out of the running’. This results in Harvey being held over a more volatile version of the toxin that is rumored to have turned Joker. This ends with one half of Harvey’s face being deformed. He was rushed to the hospital. His doctor, however, saw Harvey’s condition as a potential experiment. They poked and prodded at him until he was eventually found out. Harvey would not have the opportunity to heal from the ordeal, losing a trust in himself to control his own autonomy. His only possession he had was his “lucky coin”, would he would use to make his decisions for him. Once he was out and about, Two-Face wanted to take the Penguin out, and he’ll do it by beating him at his own game. His scared half is a nasty red and he wears a half red and white suit outfit.
Edward Nygma // The Riddler
He has the usual Riddler backstory, however this Edward actually tried a normal outlet first by becoming a game show host. His host outfit being based on his usual costume. However, no one could actually win in his competition. Which resulted in him being fired and being replaced as host. He tried to enact revenge by trapping the network executive, the person who delivered the news to him, the replacement host, and the last competitors. Whoever could solve his riddles / puzzles would get to live. He was stopped by Batman. Seeing that said man could actually solve his riddles, Edward decided he had found his perfect intellectual opponent. In his Riddler outfit he wears a green screen suit over his whole body, with darker green jacket, gloves, and hat, all with gold highlights and small question marks. There’s a large, black question mark on his face.
Bridget Pike // Firefly
Bridget Pike is a pyromaniac who burned down her house when she was thirteen. Her parents died inside of it, along with her younger brother. Who seems to be the only one who’s mention of them that hurts Bridget. She is very interested in machinery, metal working, and combustion application. Which is what leads to her becoming Firefly. Firefly is an occasional fire for hire, but she’s mainly a self employed villain. She’s oddly laid back and she likes screwing with people, which makes her intelligence go under the radar. She also carries a lighter with her at all times. Her suit would combine elements from her comic design, the 2004 Firefly design, and her look in Gotham to a lesser degree.She would have ashy hair, short hair and be a lean and muscular woman with a burn scars on her left lower jaw and right hand. The latter being from her own doing with her lighter. Also she’s trans and her deadname is Garfield.
Johnathan Crane // Scarecrow
Johnathan Crane was “born wrong”. He was raised by his abusive, and very reglious, grandmother. Skipping past the standard backstory (bulling, crows, etc), he first appears with a few of his test subjects are discovered by Batman / the GCPD. After a long investigation, Bruce discovers Johnathan Crane opterating from his college occupation. Here, he fully becomes The Scarecrow. This Scarecrow primarly uses the Fear Toxin in gas form, but he experiements with different methods of injection and different affects. His costume is very a raggidity and torn up, with a face that identical to his future state design. He has a dark overcoat that drapes behind him, giving him a ghost-like presence. He also has a bent and damaged witch-ish hat. He also welds a sharp scythe. Johnathan is a very calculating and observant person, he believes that he is always collecting data, regardless of the situation. He also speaks with a more raspy voice as the Scarecrow. Batman becomes a particular interest to him, since him to him he’s his counterpart, someone who evokes fear all on their own through their persona.
Eduardo Dorrace // Bane
Bane was born inside a prison, and spend most of his childhood there, until he fomulated a plan to escape, long with other prisoners. He was the only one that… made it. He immediately worked to correct his lost years of study, quickly taking an interest in chemistry and biology, speicically in the human body. Not wanting to lose his physicality he built in prison, Bane took an intertest in the wresting ring. Additionally, he also used it to study not only his body, but majority of his opponents. Bane’s straitigentic mind and brutal strength allowed him to dominate the entire field every quickly. In what was supposed to be his advertised “ultimate match” he unveiled his venom. His opponent lost instantly. After that Bane travelled the world, establishing a name for himself. Bane arrived in Gotham City by invitation, hired to take out the Batman. In his debut, he nearly does, if not for Alfred’s intervention. After their first interaction, Bane declares the Bat a proper adversary. Bane has a mostly black outfit that doesn’t divgert too heavily from his usual designs. His tube system starts from his back. It goes into the back of his head, his lower back, his right shoulder, and left upper arm. His venom is a strong red. His mask would start as blank black with white eyes, but he would stain a skull like pattern onto it after gripping his face with a venom covered hand, following his first defeat. Also this feels like a good time to mention that Bane, Firefly, and Scarecrow end up in a heavily implied polycule relationship.
Rogues // Season 2
Pamela Isley // Poison Ivy
Pamela Isley grew up with neglectful parents. Lacking a talent for making friends, she desperately wanted some form of companionship. She needed a pet that she could A: afford and B: wouldn’t be noticed by her parents. Ergo, she got a pet plant. That was the start of a love for plants and the environment. As mentioned before, Pam would become friends with Barbara in highschool. After her and Barbara’s activism had little effect in stopping Power Industries’ volatile plant mutagen, she devises a plan to take it out from inside the building. Barbara immediately worries about their safety, as the plan would be more dangerous than anything they had before. Pam, being very on edge after hearing a yelling fit from her mother, panics and reacts seemingly in anger, and cuts off her call. She goes it alone, which ends in her being mutated into Poison Ivy. She starts riding off high, living her wildest dream. Until it all comes crashing down, that is. She’s stuck in Arkham, she lost her only support system, her parents have disowned her, and she’s constantly hearing plants whenever she’s around them. She’s very scrawny, and after her mutation she has india green skin and her red hair turns into vines, with a few leaves sticking out. Her clothes start as layers of leaves wrapping around her body.
Nora Fries // Mrs. Freeze
Nora Fries became sick with MacGregor’s Syndrome. Her husband, Doctor Victor Fries worked tirelessly to cure her, alongside other professionals. Once Nora entered stage four of the illness, she agreed with Victor for her to enter an experimental cryo-status until he could have a reliable cure. She was given a pair of circular goggles with red lens, to prevent the pod from damaging her eye lids. Some time later, one of the rogues took a fight with Batman towards the same building that Nora stayed in. Not only did the power short circuit, but the collapsing building cracked open her pod. Victor, trying to control his panic, knew that Nora needed out immediately, lest he lose her after all this time. The nature of the cryo-status, her illness, and the recent events resulted in Nora’s body constantly producing ice around her. Her skin turning ice blue. The spouses reach for each other, but on contact frost coates up Victor’s arm up to the rest of his body. To the degree of being inside him as Nora catches him in her arms. The other doctors in the building arrive at the sound of Nora’s panic. Victor is placed into a pod, meant to stabilize his body and keep him alive, though it’s unknown when he’ll be out, or if he’ll survive at all. Nora is given a containment suit. It’s very bulky, and a combination of black-ish blue, grey, and snow blue. Only her forearms are exposed, which often leek out a haze whenever they’re hot enough, as if they were dry ice. Her head is contained by a glass dome, which looks as if there was a constant snow storm inside it. Nora, driven by grief of swapping places with her husband, wants revenge; on Batman and the villain who caused this.
Waylon Jones // Killer Croc
Living with his abusive and alcoholic aunt and dealing with bullying because of his appearance, a kid with vitiligo’s life got a hundred times worse when he started growing scales. Waylon Jone’s father was working on an experiment to create a kind of super-soilders through DNA mutation, though he lacked a test subject. Until he voilentiered his son, who was still in his pregnate wife. His experimentation caused his wife to die during childbirth. Instead of being given a child with crocodilian features, he’s given a perfectly human child. His experiment had failed. He soon died in a “car accident”, leaving Waylon to be raised by his aunt, who was only doing so for the support money. At around ten years old, Waylon would endure a change. Scales would grow where teeth once was, his teeth would sharpen, he would stop being a kid. He would be a reptile, as far as anyone else would be concerned. After enduring years and years of increasingly worse treatment from everyone around him, Waylon would lash out during another confrontation. Though, it’s easiest to say that Waylon didn’t know what he could do. He was ran out of his home town, though he wanted out of Louisiana in general. He also ended a way to survive. He became a circus attraction. The owner set him up to fight alligators, giving him the stage name Killer Croc. Fighting alligators for demeaning entertainment was a bloody career, and his boss wasn’t very keen on paying their agreed amount. During a stop in Gotham City, Waylon “bit the hand that feeds” and fled into the city. Killer Croc is large, imposing, and deeply troubled. He struggles to maintain his humanity. After a life time of dehumanztion, its difficult for him to act as the monster people have always treated him as. He has a head that is almost a mix of Arkham Origins and Unlimited. He has traditional rows of crocodile spikes trailing from his head down his back. He has an underbelly skin that starts from his neck. On his shoulders and arms his scales have ingrown into small spikes. His only clothes are a pair of torn pants and wrappings over his right hand. His scale patterns are based off Nile crocodiles. His vitiligo white coloration appears on the upper left part his face, his right shoulder and pec, his left arm and half his hand, and his right leg.
Hugo Strange
Hugo Strange is the head psychiatrist at Arkham Asylum. Strange considers himself above others, a genius who is the only capable of understanding the human mind. He sees the people around him as pawns to be experimented on. He technically debuts in Season 1, but he doesn’t become a ‘rogue’ until he takes an interest in the Batman himself. Gotham’s lack of care for the vulnerable allowed Strange to experiment on his patients.
Harleen Quinzel // Harley Quinn
Dr. Harleen Quinzel is one of the newest psychiatrists at Arkham Asylum. She truely believes in the humanity of every patient at Arkham. She’s the only doctor at the faceillity to oppose Hugo Strange. Bluntly, she’s exhausted, unappreciated, and fells trapped in a cycle of trying to help her patients but making no progress to do the nature of Arkham. However, she still believes in rehabilitating all of her patients, making her take interest in the asylum’s “untreatable” patient, the Joker. It starts simple, Harleen trying to reach out to his humanity, but it becomes something… else. He can read her, she feels seen, he has a promise of adventure and appreciation. He’s meant to seem like the old kidnapping fantasies, a romantic escape from a restrictive life that removes responsibility from the action. However, Joker truely and ultimately does not care about Harley. She’s just another facet to his grand comedy routine to him, completely disposable once she doesn’t land the joke.
In season 3, she doesn’t. Harley Quinn is thrown out, left for dead and presumed to be. This is where a redemption path would come in. Normally, at least. Here, Harley doesn’t want atonement, she wants revenge. She’s given up on her once grand hope for rehabilitation, instead she was every supervillain taken out. Harley has read every file on every villain. She’s analyzed each one. She knows how to wipe them out. Her Season 2 costume is very close to her BTAS appearance, albeit with a more blue-ish black and a slight diamond motif. Her ‘true villain’ transition gives her a costume change. She gets a diamond stylized half red and half black suit. She gets a partial face mask that gives her an ever smiling mouth of pointed teeth along with a white eyeless mask.
Kirk Langstrom // Man-Bat
Kirk and Francine Langstorm were scientists and employees at Wayne Interprises. Both were biologists, with Kirk also having experience in zoology. Said science being used to develop his cure for deafness, including his own. His idea was to create a small mutagen with bat DNA to enhance the recipient’s audio receptors. There was enmence trial and error with the partners’s work, but Bruce did always fight for them to have funding. Eventually though, they needed to have it working. Unfortunately, the serum had been made with slight malfunction. Kirk, against Francine’s concerns, used himself as a test subject. Resulting in him becoming Man-Bat. Kirk would still be conscious in his transformation, but unable to fully control himself. After a long time of prowling Gotham during the night, avoiding almost everything, Kirk is trackened down, successfully captured, and cured. That doesn’t mean it’s a plain happy ending Kirk’s body is experiencing serious withdrawal from the Man-Bat serum. Making him desperate to take to the skies again, especially since he and Francine are.. fractured apart after the ordeal. In a dramatic chain of events, Kirk has the serum, ready to take it to save Bruce and Dick from falling to their deaths. Francine, however, isn’t one for making a mistake twice. She swiped it, taking to save them and transform herself into She-Bat. Kirk then has to deal with the aftermath of losing his wife, wanting to be ease the pain by becoming Man-Bat, dealing with withdrawal, and trying to create a cure for her.
Rogues // Season 3
Alexis Kaye // Punchline
Alexis Kaye is a classmate of Dick Grayson and a wannabe class clown. They consider themselves sworn rivals. During a fateful encounter with the Joker and Harley Quinn, not thinking to run away Alexis responded to the clown prince with a joke. He absolutely loved it, exciting her that someone found her funny. The Joker has a habit of trying to match Batman (getting Harley after he got Batgirl), so with him having Robin he thought it time to have a third partner. Harley hid her discomfort as Joker suited her up to become ‘Punchline’. She, however, couldn’t cross the line that Joker could, so he decided it was time for a third chemical path. He’s stopped by not only the Bats, but also a rebelling Harley. Joker doesn’t take the interruption to his routine lightly, and throws her out of the building through the glass windows, leaving her for dead.
Derek Powers // Blight
Powers Industries was the original business that Pam and Barbara had tried to stop, and where the former was transformed into Poison Ivy. Now, Barbara spots Ivy creeping around the city, and tracks her down. Once found, Ivy explains that she only wishes to stop the company from dumping a failed product into a river that leads to Gotham’s water supply. Hesitantly, they agree to work together. The owner of this company is Derek Powers, who is determined to eliminate Poison Ivy after the terror she caused during her first escapade. This results in him being mutated into Blight. He’s a one episode wonder, as he’s defeated by the combined efforts of Batgirl and Poison Ivy.
Drury Walker // Killer Moth
In order for Harley Quinn’s grand plan to eliminate the other rogues to work, she needs numbers. She mainly recruits average civilians that the rogues have wronged, but she still needs more fire power. Two of grander recruits are Two-Face and Freeze, as they will most likely stop their escapades once the other rogues are dealt with. One of her other recruits is Drury Walker, the self proclaimed Killer Moth. Drury was a studying entomologist when Firefly crashed into his apartment, burning to death most of his moths. He vowed revenge and created a flight suit to become Killer Moth, Firefly’s greatest enemy. Well, maybe he would be if she didn’t constantly forget about him. Killer Moth’s suit is slick and is made of dark purple metal with orange details. He has poofy, dark grey fur collar that sticks out from his suit, giving him moth-like fuzz. He has four robotic wings.
Jaina Hudson // White Rabbit
Jaina Hudson was originally a member of Gotham’s high society. She working on cloning technology that she thought would earn her fame, so it wasn’t something she was just lucky to be born into. However, a scheme of Bane targeted her like, resulting in her and a few others losing almost every penny to their name. She wanted pay back, and decided her cloning technology was how she going to do it. It works by duplicating that matter it is attached to, created a copy of even itself. However, after a short while the clones pull themselves back together. She called herself White Rabbit, multiplication and all. She’s the forth and final villain to be a part of Harley Quinn’s scheme. Yeah, there’s no playboy bunny aspect or race swapping in this.
Season 1’s main idea is to see Bruce stumble through this life, both as Batman and Bruce Wayne, while also dealing with being police enemy #1. Season 2 is more focused on Bruce adapting to having partners and building the Bat Family. While Season 3 is meant to bring it all together, and have Bruce battle over his conviction that everyone and anyone deserves a chance for redemption.
Thanks for reading so far. I hope you’ve liked some of the concepts I’ve put out. I’m always open to elaboration.
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campyvillain · 2 years
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teehee. what if i rebooted my batman au and made it like this
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cha-melodius · 6 months
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Getting to know me
Thanks to @14carrotghoul and @celaestis1 for the initial tags on this, and then to @welcometololaland and @rmd-writes for tagging me and reminding me I still hadn't done it lol. I have just realized that these memes were very slightly different so I have combined all the questions into one.
last song/currently listening: currently listening to Wilco's new album Cousin
favourite colour: teal/turquoise/any blue-green
currently watching: I watch like 15 shows at once lmao, but here's an abbreviated list: WWITS S5, Leverage S2, Wheel of Time S2, The Americans S4, For All Mankind S2, Foundation S2, Witcher S3, Strange New Worlds S2, B99 S7, Archer S10
other stuff I watched this year: Good Omens S2, Ghosts (American version), The Lazarus Project, Poker Face, Ted Lasso, The Great S3, Parks & Rec, Perry Mason (reboot), Secret Invasion, Picard S3, Jack Ryan S4 (I went through my TV show management app to come up with this list)
shows I didn't finish: can only think of one of these, Norsemen. Watched a couple of episodes on a rec from friends, did NOT vibe with the humor at all.
last movie: a rewatch of Clue; last in theaters, The Dark Knight for Batman Day
currently reading: in between books, but about to read the last chapter of Pour Your (He)art Out
sweet/spicy/savoury: if I have to choose one, sweet
relationship status: married six years tomorrow
currently working on: a secret WIP for Halloween Huh? and my trusty YGM AU (chapter three in progress)
current obsession: RWRB, the song "Magnet" by the Punch Brothers, the song "Sicily" by Queens of the Stone Age, apple cider and pumpkins and all things fall
tagging @heytheredeann, @ikeepwatchinghelicopters, @okilokiwithpurpose, @wolfpup026, @mirilyawrites, @natendo-art, @loki-is-my-kink-awakening, @iboatedhere, @jettestar, @thesleepyskipper, @youtastelike-sunlight, @historicallysam, @three-drink-amy, @swearphil, @liminalmemories21, @petrodobreva, @pragmatic-optimist, @tintagel-or-cockleshells, @leaves-of-laurelin, @clottedcreamfudge
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kiragecko · 8 months
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Today, I'm swapping Robins (designing possible Reverse Robin AUs), focusing on the ages they'd be.
There are many many ways people can do this. I'm focusing on the word 'reverse', and using a math based, rather than vibe based process. This is because I LIKE math, not because anyone else should do things this way.
(Thanks, @xhaoticprince, for prompting me to finally post!)
First, the variables. I'm using:
Age the characters were when introduced
Current age
Age gaps between characters
Order characters were introduced
Time gaps between introductions (not real-world time, but a fake timeline I made myself.)
Whether a character started as Robin or not
Here's the canon data:
(Year 0: Bruce Wayne, 25 years old, becomes Batman. (In Year 15, he'll be 40))
Year 1: Dick Grayson, 12 years old, becomes Robin. (In Year 15, he'll be 26)
Year 3: Babs Gordon, 21 years old, becomes Batgirl. (In Year 15, she'll be 33)
Year 7: Jason Todd, 12 years old, becomes Robin. (In Year 15, he'll be 20)
Year 10: Tim Drake, 13 years old, becomes Robin. (In Year 15, he'll be 18)
Year 10: Stephanie Brown, 14 years old, becomes Spoiler. (In Year 15, she'll be 19)
Year 11: Cass Cain, 16 years old, becomes Batgirl. (In Year 15, she'll be 20)
Year 13: Damian Wayne, 9 years old, is introduced. (In Year 15, he'll be 11)
(Year 14: Damian becomes Robin. New Earth rebooted, which we're ignoring but I set a lot of my fic this year so I include it for easy math)
Year 15: Duke Thomas, 15 years old, becomes Signal.
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(Bruce is there as a control, I'm not swapping him.)
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There are a LOT of ways to swap this data!
I'm going to start with the three 'basic' options.
Flip based on Introduction Order:
(Year 0: Bruce Wayne, 25 years old, becomes Batman. (In Year 15, he'll be 40))
Year 1: Duke Thomas, 12 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 26)
Year 3: Damian Wayne , 21 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 33)
Year 7: Cass Cain, 12 years old. (In Year 15, she'll be 20)
Year 10: Stephanie Brown, 13 years old. (In Year 15, she'll be 18)
Year 10: Tim Drake, 14 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 19)
Year 11: Jason Todd, 16 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 20)
Year 13: Babs Gordon, 9 years old. (In Year 15, she'll be 11)
(Year 14: New Earth rebooted)
Year 15: Dick Grayson, 15 years old.
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Flip based on Age Order:
(Year 0: Bruce Wayne, 25 years old, becomes Batman. (In Year 15, he'll be 40))
Year 1: Duke Thomas, 12 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 26)
Year 3: Damian Wayne , 21 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 33)
Year 7: Stephanie Brown, 12 years old. (In Year 15, she'll be 20)
Year 10: Cass Cain, 13 years old. (In Year 15, she'll be 18)
Year 10: Jason Todd, 14 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 19)
Year 11: Tim Drake, 16 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 20)
Year 13: Babs Gordon, 9 years old. (In Year 15, she'll be 11)
(Year 14: New Earth rebooted)
Year 15: Dick Grayson, 15 years old.
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Swap based on a questionable system where the characters who 'started as Robin' (Dick, Jason, Tim, Damian) and 'didn't start as Robin' (Babs, Steph, Cass, Duke)* get flipped separately:
(Year 0: Bruce Wayne, 25 years old, becomes Batman. (In Year 15, he'll be 40))
Year 1: Damian Wayne, 12 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 26)
Year 3: Duke Thomas, 21 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 33)
Year 7: Tim Drake, 12 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 20)
Year 10: Jason Todd, 13 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 18)
Year 10: Cass Cain, 14 years old. (In Year 15, she'll be 19)
Year 11: Stephanie Brown, 16 years old. (In Year 15, she'll be 20)
Year 13: Dick Grayson, 9 years old. (In Year 15, he'll be 11)
(Year 14: New Earth rebooted)
Year 15: Babs Gordon, 15 years old.
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Nice and simple. Characters get slotted into other character's spots, no math needed.
But there are other meanings of 'reverse.' We'll get into those in Part 2: Gecko Gets Silly.
*Steph doesn't get to be a Robin because when you reverse groups of odd numbers like 3 or 5, the centre stays in the same spot. I want everyone to get swapped!
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I heard you had stephanie brown ideas 👁️👁️
@roseandgold137 SORRY I DIDNT FORGET ABOUT THIS SORRY I WAS JUST BUSY.
anyway. SO MANY you have no idea. mostly regarding a steph reboot and/or origin.
so, for background there’s this spider man comic called spidey that follows some adventures he has after becoming spider man in a bit of a present day au. its pretty fun, and one of the first comics i bought :,). anyway, i think something like that but for steph would be really fun. imagine: steph, a new seasoned vigilante who just got her dad arrested. steph starts fighting villains and running a popular tiktok or youtube on it where she records herself beating villains and such. she clashes with batman a bit, maybe gets arrested once or twice, ditches a few classes, valances her home life, etc.
ALSO UNRELATED but i’m dumping steph stuff here so i think it would be super fun to explore her in diff aus. like, with a scarab or as red hood or as a speedster. i have a whole violet hood/reverse robins au in my head that kind of mirrors jason’s early robin days but what if it was steph, yk? her bitterness toward bruce and clashing with him and then getting killed and resurrected…
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Here me out. An au where sephiroth is the reverse flash and cloud is the flash.
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There's a reverse Flash??? Had no idea. My knowledge of DC is everything pre 2011 reboot, and mostly just Batman stuff.
But yeee Arch enemies!
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polarspaz · 1 year
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Rebooting/tweaking the Shattered AU!
So the Joker kidnap's Tim and tries to twist the young man into a reflection of himself. For half month Tim endures constant torture while being jacked up on Joker Toxin. It's unlike anything Tim has experienced, he's in agony and wants it to stop, but at the same time, he would rather die than let the Joker know anything.
And thus JJ is born. JJ can handle pain, in fact he finds it absolutely hilarious! He plays along with Joker, takes on his mannerisms and lethality, but in reality, JJ HATES the Joker. With every single, tiny, microscopic, fiber of his being.
So when the Joker finally presents JJ to a horrified Batfamily, he is completely unprepared for JJ’s frenzied lunge for him instead. Laughing manically, JJ manages to tear out one of Joker's eyes and stab him several times in the chest, before Dick and Jason can pull him off. Batman manages to stabilize Joker, saving his life, but JJ is not happy.
"I'm already broken Batsy!" JJ screams as he jerks against his brothers' hold on him against the ground. "Just let me KILL HIM! LET.ME.KILL.HIM!"
JJ/Tim know they are fucked up for life. There is no going back from this, so they feel they are expendable. Batman can never go against his code and JJ/Tim accept this, so to keep Bruce's hands clean, JJ will will dirty his hands instead.
So after this, every time Joker escapes Arkham, Tim has to be literally locked away. If they don't, JJ will escape and try to kill the Joker. Kon comes in with a solution and offers to take Tim with him to the Kent farm until the affair is over. With both the distances and Kon's TK, he's able to help Tim keep JJ under control. ((It also helps that Tim adores Kon and would never hurt him, thus JJ would never hurt Kon.))
Tim is in control most of the time, but JJ tends to come out when things get too intense, or life threatening. JJ is a big part of Tim's survival instinct, without him, Tim would just give up and die. So when Tim is faced with extreme pain, JJ will take over and end the situation as quickly as possible.
JJ likes Batman and the rest of the Batfamily but he also loves creeping them out. He’s a bit vindicated and brutally honest, but he will also do ANYTHING to save his family and friends, although it will be violent and horrifying.
((Tim takes on the new hero persona of Shrike. More experienced villans like, Two-Face and Penguin, handle Tim more cautiously now. They know how dangerous and unpredictable Joker can be, so pissing off a mini version of him is not good idea.))
((Two-face actually develops a fascination with Shrike, seeing how the other is also suffering from split personality disorder, but unlike him, Shrike seems to be in balance. Meanwhile Ra's Al Ghoul is planning for a way to twist Tim/JJ even, smooth the edges so to speak, take the insanity out, but keep the deadly edge in.))
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